[01:23] <paultag> pleia2, are you around?
[01:24] <paultag> pleia2, one of my loco guys ( also a canonical kernel hacker ) is asking about mythtv is #ubuntu-us-oh -- any chance you can give some backup?
[01:24] <pleia2> oh gosh, I am not great with mythtv, I rely upon the experts :)
[01:24] <paultag> pleia2, pfft, I'm sure it's simple, I just have to run ;)
[01:25] <pleia2> rhpot1991 is our resident mythbuntu guy :)
[01:25] <pleia2> really, I don't run it
[01:25] <paultag> OK
[01:25] <pleia2> he's in #ubuntu-us-pa, nice guy
[01:25] <paultag> tyty pleia2
[01:26] <pleia2> welcome
[03:23] <running_rabbit07> hello, I am trying to install chromium onto a machine via ssh to add to the sources.list can I just add wget to this?
[03:24] <running_rabbit07> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[03:25] <pleia2> running_rabbit07: yep
[03:25] <running_rabbit07> thankx
[03:25] <pleia2> they apt-get update && apt-get install chromium-browser
[03:25] <pleia2> s/they/then
[03:26] <running_rabbit07> cool, thanx
[03:26] <pleia2> welcome :)
[03:26] <stlsaint> pleia2: HEY!! =)
[03:26] <pleia2> hey stlsaint
[03:26] <stlsaint> long time no speak eh??
[03:26] <pleia2> stlsaint: yeah, it's been a while :)
[03:27] <stlsaint> how are things with ya?
[03:27] <pleia2> going well, you?
[03:27] <stlsaint> alright
[03:28] <drubin> running_rabbit07: did you get sorted?
[03:28] <running_rabbit07> still trying to get the key
[03:29] <drubin> running_rabbit07: rather just do apt-add-repository
[03:30] <drubin> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 4E5E17B5
[03:31] <stlsaint> nice command
[03:31] <stlsaint> sup drubin
[03:31] <drubin> what apt-add-repo?
[03:32] <drubin> and hey
[03:32] <stlsaint> yep
[03:33] <running_rabbit07> drubin, how do use apt-get repo?
[03:34] <drubin> running_rabbit07: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[03:34] <drubin>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily
[03:34] <drubin> then do what pleia2 said.
[03:35] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was wondering. if windows 7 (any edition) starts acting up like a day after installing ubuntu, what would that mean? did ubuntu mess it up?
[03:35] <running_rabbit07> that got it done, thanx drubin and pleia2
[03:36] <drubin> ShadowKnight: define acting up
[03:36] <drubin> but no it shouldn't be ubuntu, ubuntu wont have any thing to do with windows 7 they should be on 2 different partions
[03:36] <pedro3005> depends
[03:36] <pedro3005> perhaps if you resized its partition within ubuntu...
[03:37] <ShadowKnight> drubin, IE8 not working wifi acting up and even it restarting every once in a while
[03:37] <ShadowKnight> pedro3005, i gave it only 60 gigs out of 250gigs
[03:37] <ShadowKnight> it was a brand new netbook if it helps
[03:37] <pedro3005> ShadowKnight, probably not a partitioning issue
[03:38] <ShadowKnight> i was thinking that maybe the netbook was bad to begin with?
[03:45] <drubin> ShadowKnight: could be bad hard drive..
[03:45] <drubin> but no ubuntu wouldn't affect windows in that way
[03:46] <ShadowKnight> okay then, thats what i was thinking. so i returned that netbook and exchanged it for a new one. would you say its safe to install ubuntu on it again? it was just because of that netbook that was acting up
[03:48] <drubin> ShadowKnight: yes it should be
[03:48] <ShadowKnight> thanks drubin
[04:16] <ShadowKnight> hey, i came across a problem right now. for some reason my keyboard doesnt work. it is only in ubuntu gde that it happened everything else works fine
[04:18] <ShadowKnight> i know it said something about slow keys or something. idk what to do
[04:21] <ShadowKnight> does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:37] <bodhizazen> ShadowKnight, what problem are you having w/ your keyboard ?
[04:38] <ShadowKnight> it says something about slow keys. ive been trying to see what happened cause it disabled my keyboard only in the ubuntu but not kubuntu
[04:38] <bodhizazen> gnome or kde ?
[04:39] <bodhizazen> or did you reboot between Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[04:39] <ShadowKnight> gnome. i had kubuntu and ubuntu installed lol
[04:39] <ShadowKnight> and ubuntu side my keyboard is not working for some reason
[04:40] <bodhizazen> log into gnome
[04:41] <bodhizazen> hold the shift key down for a few seconds
[04:41] <bodhizazen> hold it for 8-10 seconds
[04:42] <ShadowKnight> okay then :) ill go try that thank you :D ill log on right now
[05:02] <robbmunson> !botsnack
[05:02] <Votebot> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:02] <robbmunson> :)
[05:04] <Droopsta915> If I install Ubuntu on my computer, will it run ok? I have, 1024 ram memory. a 20gb harddrive and a . . . .Intel® Pentium® 4. Thanx
[05:05] <swoody> Droopsta915: yeah, it should run great :)
[05:05] <pedro3005> Droopsta915, yes, it will run
[05:05] <swoody> Droopsta915: any other info you know offhand? Wireless card, video, etc.?
[05:05] <robbmunson> wouldnt 1GB kinda pushing it as far as the minimum goes?
[05:06] <swoody> 1GB? not at all, especially when you figure in swap space
[05:07] <robbmunson> wait, im thinking half gig...nvm
[05:07] <Droopsta915> graphics card, i think. 32MB ATI® Radeon
[05:08] <Droopsta915> swoody: Oh and no wireless card
[05:08] <pedro3005> should run fine
[05:09] <Droopsta915> thanks for the help everyone.
[05:09] <swoody> Droopsta915: that ATi would be the only thing you might want to look into. I don't think Ubuntu will have any probs, but if you want 3D stuff, you're going to need to get the right driver :)
[05:09] <robbmunson> *slams door in swoody's face*
[05:09] <robbmunson> :(
[05:10] <swoody> robbmunson: hey :P
[05:11] <robbmunson> well, I think im gonna go off and play with ircd-seven a bit...configured UnrealIRCd with no problems so off to try and break this now.
[05:12] <swoody> robbmunson: very cool :) Take care
[05:23] <robbmunson> wow, what a waste of time, need m0ar readme!
[05:31] <swoody> lol, go read a book :P
[05:37] <robbmunson> I mean it didnt have a readme file, it was a half baked idea (no way to compile, etc)
[05:37] <robbmunson> half the files were obviously missing
[05:40] <swoody> ah, I gotcha
[05:41] <robbmunson> unless im missing something in how to do it....
[05:42] <swoody> did you scroll down when you got to the bottom of the first page? ;)
[05:54] <nhandler> robbmunson: !!!
[05:57] <pedro3005> hello MadameTock
[05:58] <robbmunson> and yes swoody I did manage to read the entire "help" file, lol, it didnt do anything for me :/
[05:59] <MadameTock> Hihi pedro3005!
[05:59] <pedro3005> MadameTock, you won't believe what Camus said
[06:02] <pedro3005> well, to give the context I gotta quote the whole thing
[06:10] <pedro3005> MadameTock, my best to translate it into decent english: http://pastebin.com/ZZfYESQ4
[06:12] <MadameTock> WAT
[06:13] <MadameTock> So
[06:13] <MadameTock> pedro3005 my mind
[06:13] <MadameTock> It is blown.
[06:13] <pedro3005> MadameTock, so it does indeed ends with death
[06:14] <MadameTock> Ah, the absurd
[06:15] <MadameTock> pedro3005, good thing that's only one truth, eh?
[06:15] <pedro3005> MadameTock, what do you mean?
[06:19] <MadameTock> pedro3005, I mean that, absurdism isn't the only truth
[06:19] <MadameTock> pedro3005, I don't want it to end with death!
[06:19] <pedro3005> MadameTock, I hope it ends with death! Why would you wish the opposite?
[06:27] <MadameTock> pedro3005, I think The Oracle has differing views :p
[06:28] <pedro3005> MadameTock, what oracle?
[08:55] <Willex> hey guys, do you know if it's safe to install the latest stable mesa 7.8 and opensource ati driver on lucid?
[08:56] <Willex> my screen has these small lines flickering at times
[08:57] <Willex> it's not that bad but they kinda make it look like my screen is broken or something
[08:57] <Bodsda> Willex: Do you get the same issue with the live cd version?
[08:57] <Willex> yes
[08:58] <Bodsda> Willex: what driver are you currently using?
[08:58] <Willex> originally I though it'd be sorted out if I installed the complete package
[08:58] <Willex> the default that comes with lucid
[08:59] <Willex> did the updating but no fixes to what I'm experiencing
[08:59] <Bodsda> Willex: I would definately suggest installing the ATI drivers then - alternatively try reconfiguring X
[08:59] <Bodsda> an update wont install drivers
[08:59] <Willex> mmm, you mean the proprietary ones? I can't use those
[08:59] <Willex> too old of a card I have
[09:00] <ravibn> Hi! I need help with upgrading Gnome player on karmic 9.10. I hv already installed version 0.9. I found a newer version from  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42163759/gnome-media-player-0.1.2.tar.gz how do i do this?
[09:00] <Bodsda> Willex: It doesnt matter which one you install - Propriatary/Open Source - Either way it will prove/disprove the default driver being the issue
[09:01] <Bodsda> ravibn: download that file and extract the folder to the desktop
[09:02] <Bodsda> ravibn: then run this from a terminal         cd ~/Desktop/gnome-media-player-0.1.2
[09:02] <ravibn> Ok! hang on
[09:02] <Bodsda> ravibn: do you have the appropriate packages installed to build from source?
[09:04] <Willex> can the latest xserver-xorg-video-ati be updated separately or does it need something to go with it?
[09:04] <ravibn> I have an earlier version installed on this machine right now How do I upgrade to the one I have downloaded now?
[09:06] <Bodsda> Willex: I am not sure im afraid - I have never owned an ati card
[09:06] <Bodsda> ravibn: you cant - building the one you just downloaded will create a seperate binary for running this version. Efeectively, you will have both installed
[09:08] <ravibn> Bodsda : I hv extracted the entire content to a directory in /home/downloads and there are no executables in that instead there are some shell scripts, cc files etc....
[09:08] <Willex> let's say I update it through ppa and everything goes haywire, black screen and all, is there a safe mode where I can remove the changes I made and have it return to normal?
[09:09] <Bodsda> ravibn: yeah, you have to compile it with     ./configure && make && sudo make install    but I am having some issues with dependencies for this. It seems to be a very poorly finished package. There is no README file, the changelog includes nothing...
[09:09] <Bodsda> Willex: yeah - at the grub screen there is an option for single user mode (recovery mode) - from there you will get an option to reconfigure X
[09:10] <ravibn> Bodsda : So this is a incompleted pkg which we cannot compile
[09:11] <Bodsda> ravibn: Im not sure, I would say that you probably could get it working, but chances are you will be chasing your tail for a few hours compiling dependencies. I would advise sticking to the most up to date .deb file, but you can carry on trying if you like
[09:12] <ravibn> Bodsda : thank you for the info
[09:13] <Bodsda> ravibn: no worries - Im off out now, but if you need any more help just ping some of the guys in the room - someone should be around
[14:58] <r000t> yes hello
[14:58] <pedro3005> hi r000t
[15:09] <WestJGame> hi, i was wondering if anyone knew a linux alternative to visual basic?
[15:10] <WestJGameS> anyone?
[15:10] <WestJGameS> no?
[15:10] <WestJGameS> ahhh well, ill try somewhere else\
[15:22] <C-Ray> Hello
[15:22] <pedro3005> hello
[15:22] <collinp> Hi
[15:22] <C-Ray> How are you?
[15:22] <C-Ray> Please I have a quick question
[15:22] <collinp> Ask away.
[15:23] <C-Ray> I would like to watch Japanese Tv online, but which is the best program under Ubuntu 9.10 for this task
[15:24] <pedro3005> C-Ray, you could get it streamed via http://www.tvchannelsfree.com/channels/42/Japan
[15:25] <C-Ray> ok thanks, but is there any program designed for this task? I mean synchronizing TV channels?
[15:25] <C-Ray> with the internet connection
[15:26] <pedro3005> C-Ray, I don't see what you mean... Which program would you use on Windows?
[15:29] <C-Ray> I am not a windows user, but just I was guessing if there is anything like that. Namely, a program for connecting to TV channels and letting the user choose from them without visiting many sites. but it seems such a thing does not exist. Nevermind. Thanks anyway :)
[15:29] <C-Ray> sorry for the trouble
[15:31] <drubin> C-Ray: yes. Take a look at mythbuntu
[15:31] <C-Ray> ok I will
[15:31] <C-Ray> :)
[15:32] <drubin> C-Ray: or mythtv not sure if you can just install  mythtv onto any ubuntu pc, or if you need to install the mythtv distro
[15:32] <C-Ray> I see, therefore the mythbuntu app is designed for this purpose along wih mythtv right?
[15:33] <C-Ray> yeah
[15:33] <C-Ray> very nice
[15:33] <C-Ray> :D
[15:33] <C-Ray> That's really great
[15:33] <C-Ray> that's what I was searching for
[15:34] <C-Ray> Thanks a lot
[15:34] <C-Ray> :)
[15:38] <drubin> C-Ray: glad I could be of service
[15:41] <C-Ray> there is "Me TV" also for GNOME, now I just found it. Though it has limited features but still it serves.
[18:14] <drubin> Ok seriously I love ubuntu now
[18:14] <drubin> saved me years of reformatting with chntpw
[18:15] <pedro3005> drubin, :D
[18:15] <drubin> ubuntu can hack windows 7
[19:18] <robbmunson> hmm....im thinking installing every POE module I could find was an overkill idea :/
[19:22] <robbmunson> at least I have everything the bot  could want from the ubuntu repositories!
[19:22] <ibuclaw> robbmunson, well done! :)
[19:22] <ibuclaw> I once helped someone on the forums who installed *every* package in the repository...
[19:22] <ibuclaw> took him about 18 hours.
[19:23] <robbmunson> ibuclaw, no wonder that didnt hose his system :/
[19:24] <pedro3005> ibuclaw, only 18 hours?
[19:24] <robbmunson> RAM would be pegged out and the CPU would be chugging so hard it probably would shut the system down from overheating.
[19:24] <pedro3005> it would take my internet connection a dozen decades to download it all
[19:24] <robbmunson> ive DOWNLOADED every package in the repositories before...
[19:25] <robbmunson> never even tried installing it all...dont think I would want to either.
[19:27] <pedro3005> robbmunson, how big is it?
[19:27] <robbmunson> pedro3005, 100+ GB
[19:27] <robbmunson> (surprisingly small to be honest with you)
[19:28] <pedro3005> robbmunson, still... 100gb.. damn.
[19:28] <robbmunson> im not saying it didnt take me 3 days to do it all pedro3005
[19:29] <pedro3005> robbmunson, let me do the math
[19:29] <robbmunson> but once you get it all downloaded its basically maintenance from there, that doesnt take too long.
[19:29] <ibuclaw> I thought it was about 30Gb for one release
[19:29] <robbmunson> ibuclaw, I had EVERY releases packages
[19:29] <ibuclaw> robbmunson, O.o
[19:29] <robbmunson> in both i386 and x64
[19:30] <robbmunson> was quite fun to watch my ISP freak out :)
[19:31] <pedro3005> robbmunson, that's about 307 Kb/s
[19:31] <robbmunson> mmmmhmmm
[19:33] <robbmunson> pedro3005, 500GB hard drive 1/5 of the way full after I got done....thats how I judged how big it all was :)
[19:35] <pedro3005> robbmunson, why did you do it?
[19:36] <robbmunson> pedro3005, mostly for fun
[19:36] <pedro3005> robbmunson, oh, I can imagine all the fun you had
[19:36] <pedro3005> :P
[19:36] <robbmunson> and when I go on vacation I dont wanna be without some form of packages...
[19:41] <pedro3005> robbmunson, it would take approximately 10 days to download it in my connection
[19:42] <pedro3005> assume the speed was constantly its maximum
[19:43] <robbmunson> it was definitely a rough few days surfing the net on my server :)
[21:14] <ghostofmybrain_> I have a question about ssh
[21:15] <ghostofmybrain_> I editted the ssh_config to change it from port 22 to port 22022 and yet I can still only connect to it using winscp through port 22
[21:19] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: did you restart the ssh server?
[21:19] <ghostofmybrain_> yeah
[21:19] <ghostofmybrain_> well, I restarted the whole machine.
[21:19] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: can you please pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/ssh/ssh_config please
[21:20] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: are you running a firefall?
[21:21] <ghostofmybrain_> i'm not sure how to pastebin things ithout a gui, lol
[21:22] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: Install pastebinit and then do  cat /etc/ssh/ssh_config | pastebinit
[21:22] <ghostofmybrain_> ok
[21:22] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: but you sure you have both Port 22 and Port 22022 on new lines in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?
[21:23] <ghostofmybrain_> Oh, ok, I figured it out. I didn't realize you had to edit sshd_config also
[21:23] <drubin> btw I don't need /etc/ssh/ssh_config just the sshd_config
[21:23] <ghostofmybrain_> but that was a good clue when you asked me to pastebin both lol
[21:23] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: ssh_config isn't were you set the port
[21:23] <drubin> ;-p
[21:43] <drubin> ghostofmybrain_: Did you get sorted?
[21:43] <ghostofmybrain_> yeah, I did. Thanks!
[21:57] <dim705> Hello. I've a problem with the display. After a short while in front of the computer, let's say 15 minutes, my eyes start to burn and I get headache. The view in Ubuntu is somehow blurred. The Ubuntu Version is 10.4 beta. The graphic card is Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02). I could not found the driver version. I'd be happy if someone can help me cause I like Ubuntu but in like this its somehow hard to go on. Tha
[21:59] <robbmunson> dim705, not to sound rude, but how old is your monitor?
[22:00] <dim705> Hello robbmuson. The monitor is an almost new one.
[22:00] <dim705> Itś a Samsung SyncMaster T240
[22:01] <robbmunson> dim705, I ask this because even my monitor blurs up in Ubuntu....
[22:03] <dim705> robbmunson, what kind of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[22:03] <dim705> Let's say what version.
[22:04] <robbmunson> dim705, it was on 8.04 that I had the issue.
[22:05] <robbmunson> dim705, and no offense to Ubuntu, but once I switched away from it, I havent had any issues with my monitor blurring.
[22:05] <dim705> Yes it´s the same like with me.
[22:06] <dim705> The monitor is not the problem.
[22:06] <dim705> But i wonder if i've the right grafic driver installed
[22:06] <drubin> coolies
[22:07] <dim705> Does somebody know how to find out what driver version is installed?
[22:11] <robbmunson> that...I have no clue dim705
[22:12] <robbmunson> im just coming back to linux to be honest with you, I forgot how to do many things.
[22:12] <robbmunson> try lspci -v
[22:13] <drubin> dim705: in general intel graphics just works..
[22:13] <drubin> are you sure your refresh rate is correct?
[22:15] <dim705> Hello drubin, the refresh rate is currently at 60Hz.
[22:15] <drubin> dim705: I am not the best with graphics because I generally don't use them ;-p
[22:16] <drubin> hang around and maybe some one that is better then me will help you out
[22:16] <drubin> ibuclaw bodhizazen  ping ^ graphics driver issues if you have a second
[22:19] <dim705> Thank you robbmunson and drubin for your response
[22:20] <robbmunson> dim705, sorry I couldnt be much help...
[22:20] <dim705> robbmunson, i dried lspci -v and it gives me  Kernel driver in use: i915
[22:20] <drubin> dim705: I would also possibly suggest asking in #ubuntu
[22:21]  * robbmunson just stares at drubin
[22:21] <robbmunson> subjecting this poor soul to the fire pit so soon? :(
[22:21] <dim705> Ok iĺl try it there
[22:22] <dim705> Thanks so much for the response
[22:22] <robbmunson> dim705, just a "heads up"....its very active in that room at all times....pay attention is all the advice I can give you.
[22:24] <dim705> i saw there are over 1400 people in that room
[22:24] <dim705> I wonder if they pay attention on a single problem :)
[22:25] <dim705> But Iĺl go on. Thanks a lot for advise
[22:41] <robbmunson> dim705, if they dont address you after say 10 minutes, post your question again, its just hard to keep track :)
[23:03] <ibuclaw> dim705, hi
[23:04] <ibuclaw> robbmunson, have you seen the changelog for the intel driver in Linux?
[23:04] <robbmunson> ibuclaw, no...
[23:05] <ibuclaw> been quite alot of changes...
[23:05] <ibuclaw> well - one minor change that revealed a *big* bug with the clocksource
[23:06] <ibuclaw> on my netbook, currently have to boot with options i915 powersave=0
[23:07] <ibuclaw> else screen will jitter once every so often before X crashes completely
[23:43] <robbmunson> I think I might start playing with votebots code more, add more "triggers" to it...
[23:44] <robbmunson> would be a great project to get me started in perl
[23:54] <robbmunson> hmm....I noticed something while looking at Votebot's code....its missing .info domains...
[23:55] <robbmunson> it fetches for titles .for com .net and .org...but when it comes to .info or any other TLD it would just ignore it.