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jussi01o/20:59
nhandlerIRCC Meeting time21:00
nhandlertsimpson, topyli, Pici, apachelogger?21:00
topylii am here21:00
* tsimpson is also here21:00
apacheloggero/21:00
nhandler#startmeeting21:00
MootBotMeeting started at 15:00. The chair is nhandler.21:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]21:00
nhandler[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda21:01
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda21:01
nhandler[TOPIC] Election of a chairman for the IRCC as per the approved charrter21:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Election of a chairman for the IRCC as per the approved charrter21:01
nhandlerjussi01: You added this item21:01
jussi01yes21:01
nhandlerCare to talk about it?21:02
jussi01we need to add a chairman, nominations were on the background page, only I nominated, so perhaps a confirmation vote?21:02
jussi01Unless someone else wants to nominate now?21:02
tsimpsonnah, let's just vote21:03
jussi01lets do it then.21:03
nhandler[VOTE] Should jussi01 serve as the IRCC chairman per the requirement in the IRCC Charter?21:03
MootBotPlease vote on:  Should jussi01 serve as the IRCC chairman per the requirement in the IRCC Charter?.21:03
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot21:03
MootBotE.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting21:03
tsimpson+121:03
MootBot+1 received from tsimpson. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 121:03
topyli+121:03
MootBot+1 received from topyli. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 221:03
nhandler+121:03
MootBot+1 received from nhandler. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 321:03
jussi01+021:03
MootBotAbstention received from jussi01. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 321:03
nhandler#endvote21:04
nhandler[ENDVOTE]21:04
MootBotFinal result is 3 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 321:04
nhandler[AGREED] jussi01 to serve as IRCC chairman per the requirement in the IRCC Charter21:04
MootBotAGREED received:  jussi01 to serve as IRCC chairman per the requirement in the IRCC Charter21:04
nhandlerHis term ends before the end of the year. We can deal with this when we get closer to that point21:05
nhandler[TOPIC] Request: Make the kubuntu-council team ops for all kubuntu channels21:05
MootBotNew Topic:  Request: Make the kubuntu-council team ops for all kubuntu channels21:05
nhandlerapachelogger: Care to explain this a bit?21:05
jussi01I have no issues at all with this.21:05
topylimakes sense to me21:06
apacheloggerthe kubuntu-council are elected representees of the kubuntu members, currently as council member you would need ot apply for ops individually21:06
nhandlerHmm... tsimpson, correct me if I'm wrong, but once the script is done, wouldn't having the Kubuntu Council team being an admin of the various kubuntu channel op teams on LP allow them to add OPs?21:07
apacheloggerwhich is a bit of a problem when no op is around21:07
jussi01apachelogger: do you want to create a kubuntucouncil nick or do you want each of your individual names on the list?21:07
tsimpsonnhandler: yes, when the plugin is complete21:07
nhandlerThat would avoid the need to have a kubuntucouncil nick, and make it easy to update the access lists when the council changes21:07
apacheloggerjussi01: I understand the fancy restructoring that is going on would allow the individual names to be on the list, if so then that would be preferred21:07
jussi01apachelogger: ok21:08
apacheloggerdrop people as they leave the lp team and add them as the get add21:08
nhandlertsimpson: What was the latest estimate on the script?21:08
tsimpsonthere's nothing stopping us from adding these nicks to the access list(s) now, so we don't need to wait for the plugin21:08
jussi01SO if I may rephrase, the KC council team to be added as an admin to the #kubuntu-* channels as admin (LP)21:09
nhandlertsimpson: But by doing that, they would be added individually, so the access list would not get updated when the kubuntu council LP team is updated21:09
tsimpsonnhandler: there really isn't one, but it's progressing quite slowly right now. I'm attempting to get more people involved in it21:09
jussi01nhandler: we can apply changes on LP by hand21:09
jussi01its just a little manual work.21:09
apacheloggerwe can report member ship changes if that helps :)21:10
nhandlerjussi01: It also makes it confusing to know who is an OP due to being on the council and who was already an op21:10
apacheloggerit's not like things change that often though ^^21:10
topyliapachelogger, you referred to situations when no ops are around. this should never be he case, and if it is so, this issue should be fixed rather quickly21:10
jussi01nhandler: huh? not really as the council is admin, so therefore has +f. we can also just use templates <(21:10
apacheloggertopyli: this was the case on April 3 or 2, someone was in a constant join-part loop for surely an hour or more21:11
nhandlerjussi01: I was talking about if we were to simply add all the council members individually to the access list and lp team like I thought was suggested21:11
nhandlerapachelogger: As a note, if no OPs are around, freenode staff are on the access lists and can help out21:12
apacheloggersince I was around and am council member I found it a bit weird that I immediately couldnt do anything about it due to lack of op21:12
jussi01nhandler: read my rephrase again <(21:12
topyliapachelogger, makes this more urgent21:12
jussi01When we talked to the KC about this, we said that we would add them as admins to the LP group. this shouldnt be an issue.21:13
tsimpsonthe kubuntu-council really *should* have access anyway, and it's unfair to ask them to wait for us (me) to finish the ubottu plugin code for it21:13
nhandlerWhat I would like to do is a) add the council as an admin on LP. b) Make a note about which members of the council already have OP access and in which channels. c) Add all Kubuntu council members as OPs in the channels. d) When the script is done, switch to using that21:14
jussi01nhandler: yes. but we should use templates so its easy to see.21:14
tsimpsononly riddell already has op access afaics21:15
tsimpsoncompare https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-kubuntu-ops/+members and https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council/+members21:15
jussi01I propose that KC members are give votriAf access. Or somehing similar. because of their admin satus21:15
jussi01tsimpson: this is devel and offtopic also21:16
nhandlerjussi01: Is that the set of flags we are going to give all admins?21:16
* ScottK thinks it was easier before. Less bureacracy.21:16
tsimpsonjussi01: none of the council are on those access lists either afaics21:17
jussi01ScottK: when things get their order and all is in place, this will be simple.21:17
nhandlerScottK: We are still working all of the kinks out of the process. It should become a lot easier in the coming months21:17
ScottKProbably should have been done before the new world order was imposed.21:18
Tm_TScottK: which image(s) I should test, btw?21:20
topyliwe were talking about getting the KC council to access lists though21:20
nhandler[VOTE] Add the Kubuntu Council team as an admin of all the kubuntu channel op teams on LP. Note which members of the council already have OP access and in which channels. Add all Kubuntu Council members as OPs in the channels (+votiArf). Transition to using the script to manage this once it is done21:21
MootBotPlease vote on:  Add the Kubuntu Council team as an admin of all the kubuntu channel op teams on LP. Note which members of the council already have OP access and in which channels. Add all Kubuntu Council members as OPs in the channels (+votiArf). Transition to using the script to manage this once it is done.21:21
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot21:21
MootBotE.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting21:21
tsimpson+121:21
MootBot+1 received from tsimpson. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 121:21
nhandler+121:21
MootBot+1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 221:21
topyli+121:21
MootBot+1 received from topyli. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 321:21
jussi01+121:21
MootBot+1 received from jussi01. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 421:21
nhandler[ENDVOTE]21:22
MootBotFinal result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 421:22
nhandler[AGREED] Add the Kubuntu Council team as an admin of all the kubuntu channel op teams on LP. Note which members of the council  already have OP access and in which channels. Add all Kubuntu Council members as OPs in the channels (+votiArf). Transition to using the script to manage this once it is done.21:22
MootBotAGREED received:  Add the Kubuntu Council team as an admin of all the kubuntu channel op teams on LP. Note which members of the council  already have OP access and in which channels. Add all Kubuntu Council members as OPs in the channels (+votiArf). Transition to using the script to manage this once it is done.21:22
nhandlerAnyone want to action this? If not, I will.21:22
jussi01I can action this tomorrow21:22
apacheloggerthanks everyone :)21:22
jussi01or you can nhandler whatever works.21:22
nhandler[ACTION] jussi01 to make the necessary changes on LP and IRC21:22
MootBotACTION received:  jussi01 to make the necessary changes on LP and IRC21:23
jussi01ok21:23
nhandler[TOPIC] Any other Topics?21:23
MootBotNew Topic:  Any other Topics?21:23
nhandlerAny other topics that need to be discussed?21:23
jussi01can I sleep now?21:23
topyliheh21:23
topylijussi01, we can discuss that :)21:23
tsimpsonwe should vote ;)21:24
jussi01ACTION jussi01 to go to sleep21:24
nhandlerIf not, does someone want to handle minutes and stuff like that? I can if not21:24
jussi01nhandler: chairmans rsponsibility21:24
tsimpsonjust don't forget to #endmeeting21:24
jussi01yeah lol21:25
nhandlerjussi01: Not necessarily ;) If someone else wants to do it, I like to ask21:25
jussi01hehe, fair enough21:25
* nhandler notes that jussi01 is the chairman, nhandler is just chairing the meeting21:25
jussi01nhandler: sssh21:25
jussi01lol21:25
nhandler[ACTION] nhandler to handle minutes and stuff like that21:25
MootBotACTION received:  nhandler to handle minutes and stuff like that21:25
nhandler#endmeeting21:25
MootBotMeeting finished at 15:25.21:25
jussi01doh... I was going to add 'all the time' there21:26
jussi01:D21:26
jussi01nini21:26
topyliok, thanks guys21:26

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