[00:01] <micahg> asac: please look at bug 480407 if you get a chance...I'll be back sat night
[00:02] <maxb> Rebuild tests run at low priority - other PPA uploads should take priority on the build farm
[01:03] <asac> maxb: 32bit?
[01:04] <asac> maxb: try https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/ppa/+files/enigmail_1.0.1-0ubuntu1~asac2_i386.deb
[09:34] <maxb> asac: Sorry, my net connection went offline :-(
[10:36] <maxb> asac: I dug out my one 32bit machine and the new enigmail seems happy on that
[12:38] <asac> bdrung: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43626794/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.enigmail_2:1.0.1-0ubuntu1~asac2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:38] <asac> make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/buildd/enigmail-1.0.1' dh_xul-ext -a
[12:38] <asac> option -a not recognized
[12:38] <asac> Usage: dh_xul-ext [options]
[12:38] <asac> :/
[12:39] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/ppa/+packages
[13:43] <gnomefreak> anyone here that knows why Mozilla is using code names for point releases. example: 3.6.3 is named Lorentzhttp://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/lorentz/
[13:44] <gnomefreak> or is this a plugin
[13:45] <gnomefreak> it seems to be but it will be intergrated into 3.6
[13:52] <jdstrand> fyi: bug #559881
[13:52] <jdstrand> and bug #559918
[13:53] <jdstrand> fyi, I tested https quite a bit
[13:53] <jdstrand> and evo+nss
[13:54] <jdstrand> and I know chrisccoulson said he tested all this a lot, including tbird
[14:24] <gnomefreak> jdstrand: do you mean something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WeeChat/?action=login&login=1&oidstage=1&stage=openid&janrain_nonce=2010-04-10T13%3A23%3A05Z8j5OFE&openid.assoc_handle=%7BHMAC-SHA1%7D%7B4bbc8574%7D%7B9rjPUw%3D%3D%7D&openid.claimed_id=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.launchpad.net%2F%2Bid%2FFQEWncc&openid.identity=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.launchpad.net%2F%2Bid%2FFQEWncc&openid.mode=id_res&openid.ns=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.ne
[14:24] <gnomefreak> holy shit that is long
[14:25] <gnomefreak> http://alturl.com/hwm9 ok this is better
[14:28] <gnomefreak> it seems it is moin bug at least i think it is
[14:34] <bdrung> asac: upgrade to mozilla-devscripts 0.21
[15:04] <gnomefreak> ok does firefox no longer depend on xulrunner? i am not seeing it in depends. not sure what version of xul is needed for firefox 3.6
[15:11] <gnomefreak> ok bug is reported
[15:15] <gnomefreak> bdrung: how do i access the long url please extension? I cant find it in any of the menus and it is enabled
[15:16] <gnomefreak> on crap never mind
[15:19] <bdrung> gnomefreak: dunno
[15:33] <gnomefreak> the extension i had installed was turning shorted link to full links. i thought it was the one that turns long into short. looking for the long -> short one now
[15:34] <bdrung> :)
[15:34] <gnomefreak> on and for some reason firefox no longer has a menu entry for addons
[15:38] <gnomefreak> bdrung: did you see this extension http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/lorentz/ im thinking no need to package it but its still a good thing :)
[15:40] <bdrung> gnomefreak: it will help, but i would like to see no crashes ;)
[15:46] <gnomefreak> well im confused code name for 3.6pre* is Namoroka. im getting the idea that Lorentz is a separate project. i would love to never see a crash but that is asking too much
[15:47] <gnomefreak> well i have to post a few things on firefox mailing list so maybe ill ask what this is
[15:58] <asac> bdrung: is .21 in archive?
[15:58] <asac> bdrung: e.g. that build was done yesterday
[15:58] <asac> in lucid
[15:58] <bdrung> asac: not yet (bug #557081)
[16:01] <asac> jdstrand: ouch
[16:01] <gnomefreak> im guessing this is not firefox just built on it :(
[16:02] <asac> "After the sync we have to binNMU these extensions:"
[16:02] <asac> bdrung: we have no binNMU
[16:02] <bdrung> asac: i know
[16:03] <bdrung> asac: binNMU is shorter than no source upload to rebuild against new m-d version ;)
[16:04] <asac> bdrung: "after sync we have to respin these extensions:" ;)
[16:04] <asac> :-P
[16:04] <asac> anyway
[16:07] <asac> is using bz2 best practice with format 2.0?
[16:07] <asac> err 3.0 ;)
[16:08] <asac> bdrung: ?
[16:08] <asac> or just personal preference ;)
[16:09]  * gnomefreak off for a bit.
[16:16] <cwillu_at_work> asac, there's a good chance that I can actually do the stuff I said I'd do last night in a couple minutes :p
[16:17] <asac> cwillu_at_work: cool ;)
[16:18] <cwillu_at_work> dependant mainly on whether I can make a bootable sd card on my first try this week :p
[16:18] <asac> heh
[16:18] <asac> cwillu_at_work: using ubuntu?
[16:20] <asac> anyone running karmic?
[16:21] <asac> jdstrand: ok found a karmic user ;) ... let me check with him if all works :/
[16:22] <cwillu_at_work> asac, it's a karmic image
[16:22] <asac> jdstrand: nss was realeased friday? .... ouch
[16:22] <cwillu_at_work> and yes
[16:22] <asac> cwillu_at_work: thought its omap. for karmic we didnt push omap
[16:22] <cwillu_at_work> ?
[16:22] <cwillu_at_work> asac, it's arm, I do my own kernels
[16:22] <asac> chrisccoulson: hi
[16:23] <asac> chrisccoulson: we have a nss regression in karmic ... with tbird and firefox reported :)
[16:23] <asac> 14:52 < jdstrand> fyi: bug #559881
[16:23] <asac> 14:52 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 559881 in nss "libnss3-1d 3.12.6-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 breaks ssl/fips support in firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559881
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> hi asac, how are you?
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> oh, i haven't checked my mail yet
[16:23] <asac> 14:52 < jdstrand> and bug #559918
[16:23] <asac> chrisccoulson: good ;)
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> what sort of regression?
[16:23] <asac> 14:52 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 559918 in thunderbird "startup error: could not initialize the browser's security component (and then ssl will not work) (dup-of: 559881)"  [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559918
[16:23] <asac> chrisccoulson: read
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm :-/
[16:23] <asac> ssl broken it seems ;)
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> i didn't notice any issues like that, and i tested stuff with ssl :(
[16:24] <cwillu_at_work> hmm, this testing isn't going to work if I can't find a usb keyboard to plug a mouse and keyboard in with
[16:24] <asac> yeah. ... usually we dont release anything on friday to security channel ;)
[16:24] <asac> cwillu_at_work: serial ?
[16:24] <asac> ;)
[16:25] <asac> cwillu_at_work: well. at least to get started
[16:25] <asac> cwillu_at_work: #ubuntu-arm is also a good channel to hang out ;)
[16:26] <cwillu_at_work> I'm usually in there
[16:26] <asac> chrisccoulson: so i have someone in -motu on the hook to test on karmic ;)
[16:26] <cwillu_at_work> wonder why it didn't auto-join this time
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, thanks
[16:26] <asac> chrisccoulson: nigelb
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> i'll try and look today too, but i'm already quite busy today
[16:26] <fta> http://www.osnews.com/story/23135/Google_Puts_Weight_Behind_Theora_on_Mobile
[16:26] <asac> chrisccoulson: well. if nss is broken like that its a drop all event ;)
[16:27] <asac> at least we should understand whats going on before going for weekend ;)
[16:31] <asac> bdrung: one thingi find interesting is that it only happens on amd64
[16:31] <asac> bdrung: does that make sense to you?
[16:31] <asac> e.g. is binary-arch without -indep trigger a -a argument?
[16:33]  * gnomefreak still not here but i just filed a bug on nss this morning
[16:34] <asac> gnomefreak: whats your prob with nss
[16:34] <asac> ?
[16:35] <gnomefreak> asac: gives error on loging into ubuntu wiki gives HTTP error
[16:36] <gnomefreak> asac: one minute
[16:36] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 560051
[16:36] <gnomefreak> ill be back a bit later i have house work to do
[16:38] <asac> gnomefreak: thats on lucid?
[16:38] <asac> seems so
[16:38] <asac> dont get that error there
[16:38] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[16:39] <gnomefreak> if i remember i will test it again this afternoon sometime
[16:41] <chrisccoulson_> asac - hmmm, i just updated my karmic desktop here too, and everything is still working ok :(
[16:44] <asac> chrisccoulson_: also tbird 2?
[16:44] <asac> ;)
[16:44] <bdrung> asac: i use the smaller file size (in rare cases gz is smaller than bzip2)
[16:45] <bdrung> *file with the smaller size
[16:46] <bdrung> asac: the amd64 build failure makes sense, because i386 builds the arch indep packages too
[16:46] <asac> yes, but why is it -a on arch depend ;)
[16:47] <chrisccoulson_> asac - no issues with thunderbird either
[16:48] <asac> chrisccoulson_: try with fresh profile
[16:48] <chrisccoulson_> asac - tried that too ;)
[16:48] <asac> chrisccoulson_: asked on the bug if they properly logged out in between
[16:48] <asac> maybe firefox hung in background or something ;) ... you never know.
[16:48] <asac> next is checking if it works with a fresh profile for them
[16:48] <chrisccoulson_> yeah, hopefully ;)
[16:49] <asac> so nigelb also has no problems so far
[16:49] <asac> chrisccoulson_: in tbird bug he talks about nss-0d and -dev
[16:49] <asac> do you have those packages installed?
[16:50] <chrisccoulson_> asac - no, i've not got those installed
[16:51] <chrisccoulson_> one second
[16:51] <asac> yeah
[16:51] <asac> that would be good to check
[17:14] <asac> chrisccoulson: so he couldnt reproduce it on karmic
[17:14] <asac> lets wait for the bug reporters reply if they can reproduce ... and say good weekend ;)
[17:17] <gnomefreak> asac: in tb3 do you see the yellow bar between headers and body of email http://img696.imageshack.us/i/thunderbird30extrapane.png/ that is a screenshot of what i mean
[17:17] <chrisccoulson_> asac - there is an issue on karmic if you upgrade with FIPS enabled in firefox (i just reproduced that now)
[17:17] <chrisccoulson_> i'm going to test if that's an issue on lucid too
[17:17] <chrisccoulson_> brb, moving back to the lounge now
[17:17] <gnomefreak> its just under bug reports
[17:18] <gnomefreak> ff got as high as 99.9 % CPU when trying to zoom in :(
[17:18] <gnomefreak> with 5 processes open for some reason
[17:19] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, same issue on lucid too
[17:20] <gnomefreak> i guess its trying to tell me to restart :(
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> asac - and firefox in lucid is using the bundled nss too isn't it?
[17:33] <bdrung> asac: why did you ask about 3.0 format?
[17:36] <gnomefreak> ok firefox is not usable at all
[17:38] <bdrung> asac: should i sync m-d manually?
[17:44] <gnomefreak> firefox sucks badly today
[17:45] <gnomefreak> chromium is now default since it never reaches 99.9%
[18:14] <gnomefreak> the slow FF crap is due to the Prism addon
[18:16] <gnomefreak> or not
[18:17] <cwillu_at_work> asac, heading out for lunch, if I'm lucky I might have a bootable image when I get back that I can finally test my freshly built hacked-up 16-bit firefox :)
[18:17] <cwillu_at_work> and all that arm 3.6 scrollbar stuff
[18:18] <gnomefreak> ok that needs to get fixed
[18:20] <gnomefreak> ~90% of progress bar is complete and than it stops and the bar never finishes. have to force quit/kill it to close it
[18:41]  * gnomefreak suprised at the amount of twitter extensions for FF and Chromium
[18:44] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, you have far too much faith in humanity
[18:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[19:09] <gnomefreak> anyone else getting lockups on 3.6.4~hg20100410r34032+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1?
[19:09] <gnomefreak> lockups/freezes/or what ever you want to call it
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, FIPS does not work in FF in lucid because we don't generate the chk files at build time
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> and i suspect it has broken in karmic either because we're missing a chk (strace would suggest that)
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> or the binaries get altered after the chk files are generated
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> anyway, i will look at this tonight
[19:11] <chrisccoulson> and see if i can make it work again :-/
[19:15] <gnomefreak> it looks like flashplugin-installer and firefox 3.7 are not compatible
[19:16] <gnomefreak> imageshack and marlboro.com have the freezing issues greasespot seemed to load without issues maybe it is flash on 3.6 and 3.7
[19:24] <LLStarks> why is this taking forever? http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2070/bindwood.png
[19:32] <gnomefreak> LLStarks: mine is too. it will never finish at least it doesnt here. happens on marlboro.com when i try to log in
[19:32] <gnomefreak> those are the 2 sites i have seen it on today.
[19:32]  * gnomefreak gone for the day it is really nice out
[19:32] <LLStarks> smoker swag?
[19:36] <asac> chrisccoulson: hmm. iirc we generated the .chk file
[19:36] <asac> not sure when this regressed though
[19:36] <chrisccoulson> asac - i haven't got any chk files for the firefox bundled NSS
[19:36] <chrisccoulson> and the karmic regression is because we now need to generate an extra chk file
[19:37] <chrisccoulson> so, i'll fix all of those
[19:37] <chrisccoulson> asac - i assume the karmic update needs to be rolled out through -security again doesn't it?
[19:37] <asac> chrisccoulson: err. so the problem is that we use in-source nss now?
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, for FF in lucid, it seems we are using in-source NSS with no checksums
[19:38] <asac> chrisccoulson: we dont want to use it there
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> we don't want to use in-source NSS?
[19:38] <asac> we shouldnt have uploaded without nss being in
[19:38] <asac> wasnt planned for sure
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i wonder how that's happened :-/
[19:39] <asac> we uploaded without nss being updated and without bumping build-depends minimum version
[19:39] <asac> we have magic to revert to in-source nss for the dailies etc.
[19:39] <asac> still. we should generate .chk for in-source nss, yes.
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> asac - but the last couple of FF uploads were with 3.12.6 already in the archive
[19:39] <asac> then there is something else broken with the magic in rules
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> ok, i'll try and figure out whats going on. i need to fix karmic first though
[19:40] <asac> hmm
[19:40] <asac> ok did i add nss/nspr to the MIN_SYS_DEPS thing?
[19:40] <asac> if so. yes, lets stick to that
[19:40] <asac> and generate .chk
[19:40] <asac> but thats only in lucid ;)
[19:40] <asac> i would hope
[19:40] <asac> in karmic we must not have moved to in-source ;)
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> asac - ah, yes, it is because of MIN_SYS_DEPS in lucid
[19:41] <asac> right. but did i add that ;)?
[19:41] <asac> makes sense. i just thought i didnt add it there ;)
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> asac - not sure. it wasn't me ;)
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> ok, so i need to fix NSS in both karmic and lucid and also FF in lucid
[19:42] <chrisccoulson> but the lucid stuff can probably wait until monday. i could do with jdstrand or someone being around now so we can get karmic fixed
[19:42] <asac> chrisccoulson: so why is nss broken? thats a normal regression?
[19:42] <asac> i understand why firefox isbroken ;)
[19:45] <chrisccoulson> asac - it seems that we need to generate an extra checksum file for the latest version to work properly (for libnssdbm3.so)
[19:45] <chrisccoulson> the mozilla shipped firefox binaries has a checksum for that, and if i create one, then it starts working again
[19:49] <asac> chrisccoulson: right. so fix that ;)
[19:49] <asac> thanks
[19:50] <chrisccoulson> asac - i've built and tested that already, but i'm not sure what to do next. i assume we go through the usual process for security updates again (in which case, i upload it to the PPA)?
[19:51] <asac> chrisccoulson: certainly push to ppa
[19:51] <asac> chrisccoulson: then get folks in bugs verify it (tell them to enable ppa and upgrade)
[19:51] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, will do that
[19:51] <asac> chrisccoulson: i think you need to use USN-NUMBER-2
[19:51] <asac> as thats a regression push
[19:51] <asac> jdstrand: ^^
[19:52] <asac> chrisccoulson: so yeah. i am pretty sure you have to use a -2 USN
[19:52] <asac> if the nss update had a USN of course
[19:52] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, the NSS update got a USN
[19:56] <asac> chrisccoulson: then bump the -1 to -2
[19:56] <asac> for the upload
[19:57] <asac> kk
[19:57] <asac> http://identi.ca/notice/28036382 + http://identi.ca/notice/28036461
[20:21] <crimsun> yeah, I've had that repo active since some releases back
[20:21] <crimsun> just noticed that I had it enabled still but nothing new had come across
[20:21] <asac> crimsun: ack. you are one of the good ones ;) thanks a lot!
[20:22] <asac> crimsun: gruemaster said you found a potential workarund for pulse on armel?
[20:22] <crimsun> asac: li li did; I pushed the fix for speex based on ncommander's debdiff last hour
[20:22] <crimsun> it wasn't a pulse issue, much as I suspected
[20:23] <asac> ah ok
[20:23] <asac> crimsun: so speex had issues?
[20:23] <asac> nice find
[20:23] <crimsun> asac: yes, it was purely speex. tobin confirmed the fix (see -devel).
[20:24] <asac> great. thanks
[20:47] <asac> any apps using online/offline from NM besides empathy and epiphany?
[20:47] <asac> ;)
[20:47] <asac> chrisccoulson: ?
[20:47] <asac> better in -desktop i guess
[20:48] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, i'm not sure. perhaps evolution too?
[21:02] <jdstrand> asac: regarding -2, correct, but he knows already
[21:02] <asac> jdstrand: yes. reminded him ;)
[21:02]  * jdstrand nods
[21:02] <jdstrand> asac: thanks for tat
[21:02] <asac> jdstrand: thanks to U
[21:02] <asac> for being here ;)
[21:03] <jdstrand> sure
[21:33] <lfaraone> Hi, is there a reason python-xpcom was dropped in xulrunner-1.9?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> hey. I'm back :)
[22:25] <cwillu_at_work> *grumble grumble*
[22:25] <cwillu_at_work> <3
[22:29] <BUGabundo> hey my friend
[22:29] <BUGabundo> found a way to make my boot 20 secs again, cwillu?
[22:29] <cwillu_at_work> no, I builded a firefox though :)
[23:36] <jdstrand> fyi bug #559918 is not a duplicate of bug #559881
[23:37] <jdstrand> seems all tbird users who have libnss3-0d installed are broken
[23:37] <jdstrand> libnss3-0d was part of the default install of gutsy
[23:37] <jdstrand> hardy had a few depends on it, notably sunbird
[23:37] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson is aware and it looking at it
[23:40] <chrisccoulson> asac - there?