/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/10/#ubuntu-ops.txt

=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
mneptokuhhh ... do banforwards to #ubuntu+1 not work because of the + ?01:41
mneptokif so, this ircd needs ehlp01:41
mneptokhelp, even01:41
Flannelmneptok: They should, it's $ now as a delimiter01:41
vanishingFlannel: ok..01:42
Flannelmneptok: I guess I haven't tried it yet though, so it might be a bug01:42
mneptokFlannel: yeah, the delimiter i know. just got nothing when entering what appears to be the correct inputline.01:43
bazhangshpongle?01:43
Flannelmneptok: Oooh, did you get an error in your server window saying you're not an op in +1?01:43
mneptokFlannel: nope01:43
Flannelmneptok: You have to be an operator in both channels now to forward01:43
mneptokoh, wait. yeah.01:43
vanishingFlannel: so i asked a mysql upstart script question in ubuntu, mneptok told me to leave #ubuntu and join #ubuntu+101:43
mneptokthat's indredilame.01:43
Flannelmneptok: We need to get +1 set +f (or +F? I don't remember)01:44
vanishingFlannel: and i stopped asking questions about this issue, then he kicked me..01:44
mneptokvanishing: yes, i did. because by your own admission you're using Lucid.01:44
vanishingmneptok: i also use karmic01:44
vanishingmneptok: and by using lucid, im blocked from #ubuntu?01:44
Flannelvanishing: Development versions of Ubuntu aren't supported in #ubuntu, because the issues may be because of bugs in the code, etc.01:44
Flannelvanishing: No, that's not what anyone said.01:44
vanishingFlannel: i understand that..01:44
Flannelvanishing: You cannot ask questions about help with development versions in #ubuntu, those belong in +101:45
vanishingFlannel: but since karmic use upstart too..i thought it can be achieved in #ubuntu too since karmic is not +101:45
Flannelvanishing: If you're having the same problem in a supported version, then #ubuntu is a valid place, but you need to be testing the stuff on the version, not assuming it works the same both places01:45
vanishingFlannel: and after he ask me to join #ubuntu+1 i did not ask any lucid question did i?01:45
mneptokvanishing: i kicked you from #ubuntu because multiple people told you about the rules regarding development versions, and your responses included ...01:45
Flannelvanishing: Yes, but "upstart version a" and "upstart version B" aren't the same01:45
mneptok18:35 < vanishing> mneptok: why should i part with this channel when somebody solved my problem?01:46
vanishingFlannel: what i need is just the contain of mysql upstart script, it is there in karmic.01:46
mneptokvanishing: "i got the help i needed, so i'm not going to follow the channel rules," is hardly an attitude we encourage01:46
vanishingmneptok: yes..why should i part with a channel just after an issue is solved?01:47
Flannelvanishing: The reason you were kicked ultimately is because you had a bad attitude when it was suggested you take Lucid support to #ubuntu+1 where it belongs01:47
vanishingmneptok: and where did you see "i got the help i needed, so i'm not going to follow the channel rules,"01:47
mneptok18:35 < vanishing> mneptok: why should i part with this channel when somebody solved my problem?   <----   that's what that sounds like01:47
vanishingFlannel: and i said politely i wont ask anymore lucid questions01:47
mneptokyou're sending 2 different messages01:48
vanishingmneptok: to me, that sounded more like, i could leave a channel after my problem is solved, but i dont want to leave that channel.01:48
vanishingmneptok: whats wrong with that?01:48
mneptok"i won;t ask Lucid questions" and "i got the help i need here, so why leave?"01:48
vanishingmneptok: to me, i felt you are abusing your power01:48
vanishingmneptok: yea. i got karmic machine, and i wont ask more lucid questions, still, i cant stay in #ubuntu?01:49
mneptokyou can't if you're going to be argumentative when people point out channel rules and policies.01:49
vanishingmneptok: did i argue?01:50
vanishingmneptok: you were forcing me to leave01:50
vanishingmneptok: and i simply stating maybe i got more question non-related to lucid to ask in this channel01:50
mneptok18:31 < vanishing> mneptok: i know you gona redirect me to lucid01:51
mneptokit seems clear you know the rules, but simply choose to ignore them01:51
vanishingmneptok: and no warning, but simply kick?01:51
mneptokyou know the rules, but choose to ignore them. you basically admit as much. but suddenly when you say you won;t ask more Lucid questions, we're supposed to have an unshakeable faith that that is the case.01:52
mneptokif you know Lucid questions do not belong in the channel, then don't ask them there.01:53
mneptokfull stop.01:53
vanishingmneptok: that does not explain the kcik01:53
vanishingkcik*01:53
vanishingkick*01:54
mneptokyou were kicked for continuing to be argumentative, and being deliberately confrintational01:54
bazhangdhanesh still ban evading01:54
mneptoki said "i do not have confidence that you will not ask Lucid questions" and your (snarky, IMO) response was "where do you get your confidence?"01:55
mneptokyou decided to cop an attitude and be argumentative. you chose the a person with op privileges to do that with. now you're complaining about the outcomes of your own actions.01:56
vanishingmneptok: i was simply curious how did you know whether i was going to ask more lucid questions or not, and where did you get your confidence. a01:56
vanishingmneptok: and i think you abused your power too much01:57
mneptokyou're entitled to think whatver you'd like. doesn't make it true.01:58
* mneptok heads off for some dinner01:58
vanishingmneptok: samething apply to you01:58
vanishingmneptok: so do NOT abuse your power :)01:58
bazhangno response via PM02:00
Flannelbazhang: which channel?02:03
Flannelvanishing: Is there anything else we can help you with tonight?02:03
bazhangFlannel, #ubuntu ; I Pm'ed and he finally parted, asked him to join here02:03
vanishingFlannel: yea02:03
vanishingFlannel: punish mneptok ..lols02:04
vanishingFlannel: lols..thanks for the support02:04
vanishingFlannel: good night02:04
bazhangbye02:04
ubottuRandom832 called the ops in #ubuntu ()02:14
bazhanghe;s gone02:15
bazhangerr he's02:15
Piciodd02:15
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (l0de)04:27
bazhangremoved04:29
elky!staff | l0de is an issue and your wannabes are being obnoxious in #f06:23
ubottul0de is an issue and your wannabes are being obnoxious in #f: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)06:23
thief`hello?07:21
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from ubuntu)08:25
Tm_Tciao!09:51
* elky looks at -women and raises an eyebrow12:19
* elky gets the stapler out ready12:24
Tm_Thighvoltage: hi12:42
elkyTm_T, i pinged him elsewhere12:44
elkyhe's closed the client. oddly he wasn't flaking elsewhere.12:44
Tm_TI see12:45
Tm_T1530.36 -!- SandGorgon is "... and I go apeshit on you"13:31
ikonia@mark slam_dunk #ubuntu bacta ban doding in #ubuntu on 203.100.212.17 and discussing it in ##club-ubuntu13:31
ubottuThe operation succeeded.13:31
ikonia@mark slamdrunk #ubuntu bacta ban dodging in #ubuntu on 203.100.212.1713:33
ubottuThe operation succeeded.13:33
ikonia!staff | bacta - the user you just removed a kline from is caught ban dodging on purpose in #ubuntu again13:34
ubottubacta - the user you just removed a kline from is caught ban dodging on purpose in #ubuntu again: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)13:34
ikoniaughh, I'm not with it today13:34
ubottuIn ubottu, steffan said: Weechat is a modern IRC client, based on a powerful text-driven interface. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WeeChat for help.13:53
elky!weechat13:57
elkyikonia, is he also gurgling about his -women trollingz there too?14:03
ikoniaelky: not seen anything on that17:39
ubottusteffan called the ops in #ubuntu ()18:01
ikonialooking18:02
Loshahello ops, anyone there?20:53
tsimpsonLosha: is there something we can help you with?20:55
LoshaIn #ubuntu, the topic came up of adding an alias to ubottu for 'firewall' as 'nat'. Who would/could approve that?20:55
tsimpsonyou can suggest the change with '/msg ubottu nat is <alias> firewall' and someone here will review it20:57
LoshaThank you. And thanks to all the ops for their work. o+o20:58
ubottuIn ubottu, Losha said: nat is <alias> firewall20:59
Tm_Twhere's the fifth council member?21:04
tsimpsonnot here :(21:05
Tm_Thaven't seen him at all lately21:06
tsimpsonhe's been idle for nearly 19 hours21:06
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from myrl)23:13
ubottuIn ubottu, VBB-VolleyballBa said: Hello ubottu this is a Victoria's Secret bot that wants to see you buy one of our sexy new bras so please tell us your bra size so we can get started.23:29
knomehahaha23:41
jpdsFail.23:55

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