[01:41] <mneptok> uhhh ... do banforwards to #ubuntu+1 not work because of the + ?
[01:41] <mneptok> if so, this ircd needs ehlp
[01:41] <mneptok> help, even
[01:41] <Flannel> mneptok: They should, it's $ now as a delimiter
[01:42] <vanishing> Flannel: ok..
[01:42] <Flannel> mneptok: I guess I haven't tried it yet though, so it might be a bug
[01:43] <mneptok> Flannel: yeah, the delimiter i know. just got nothing when entering what appears to be the correct inputline.
[01:43] <bazhang> shpongle?
[01:43] <Flannel> mneptok: Oooh, did you get an error in your server window saying you're not an op in +1?
[01:43] <mneptok> Flannel: nope
[01:43] <Flannel> mneptok: You have to be an operator in both channels now to forward
[01:43] <mneptok> oh, wait. yeah.
[01:43] <vanishing> Flannel: so i asked a mysql upstart script question in ubuntu, mneptok told me to leave #ubuntu and join #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <mneptok> that's indredilame.
[01:44] <Flannel> mneptok: We need to get +1 set +f (or +F? I don't remember)
[01:44] <vanishing> Flannel: and i stopped asking questions about this issue, then he kicked me..
[01:44] <mneptok> vanishing: yes, i did. because by your own admission you're using Lucid.
[01:44] <vanishing> mneptok: i also use karmic
[01:44] <vanishing> mneptok: and by using lucid, im blocked from #ubuntu?
[01:44] <Flannel> vanishing: Development versions of Ubuntu aren't supported in #ubuntu, because the issues may be because of bugs in the code, etc.
[01:44] <Flannel> vanishing: No, that's not what anyone said.
[01:44] <vanishing> Flannel: i understand that..
[01:45] <Flannel> vanishing: You cannot ask questions about help with development versions in #ubuntu, those belong in +1
[01:45] <vanishing> Flannel: but since karmic use upstart too..i thought it can be achieved in #ubuntu too since karmic is not +1
[01:45] <Flannel> vanishing: If you're having the same problem in a supported version, then #ubuntu is a valid place, but you need to be testing the stuff on the version, not assuming it works the same both places
[01:45] <vanishing> Flannel: and after he ask me to join #ubuntu+1 i did not ask any lucid question did i?
[01:45] <mneptok> vanishing: i kicked you from #ubuntu because multiple people told you about the rules regarding development versions, and your responses included ...
[01:45] <Flannel> vanishing: Yes, but "upstart version a" and "upstart version B" aren't the same
[01:46] <mneptok> 18:35 < vanishing> mneptok: why should i part with this channel when somebody solved my problem?
[01:46] <vanishing> Flannel: what i need is just the contain of mysql upstart script, it is there in karmic.
[01:46] <mneptok> vanishing: "i got the help i needed, so i'm not going to follow the channel rules," is hardly an attitude we encourage
[01:47] <vanishing> mneptok: yes..why should i part with a channel just after an issue is solved?
[01:47] <Flannel> vanishing: The reason you were kicked ultimately is because you had a bad attitude when it was suggested you take Lucid support to #ubuntu+1 where it belongs
[01:47] <vanishing> mneptok: and where did you see "i got the help i needed, so i'm not going to follow the channel rules,"
[01:47] <mneptok> 18:35 < vanishing> mneptok: why should i part with this channel when somebody solved my problem?   <----   that's what that sounds like
[01:47] <vanishing> Flannel: and i said politely i wont ask anymore lucid questions
[01:48] <mneptok> you're sending 2 different messages
[01:48] <vanishing> mneptok: to me, that sounded more like, i could leave a channel after my problem is solved, but i dont want to leave that channel.
[01:48] <vanishing> mneptok: whats wrong with that?
[01:48] <mneptok> "i won;t ask Lucid questions" and "i got the help i need here, so why leave?"
[01:48] <vanishing> mneptok: to me, i felt you are abusing your power
[01:49] <vanishing> mneptok: yea. i got karmic machine, and i wont ask more lucid questions, still, i cant stay in #ubuntu?
[01:49] <mneptok> you can't if you're going to be argumentative when people point out channel rules and policies.
[01:50] <vanishing> mneptok: did i argue?
[01:50] <vanishing> mneptok: you were forcing me to leave
[01:50] <vanishing> mneptok: and i simply stating maybe i got more question non-related to lucid to ask in this channel
[01:51] <mneptok> 18:31 < vanishing> mneptok: i know you gona redirect me to lucid
[01:51] <mneptok> it seems clear you know the rules, but simply choose to ignore them
[01:51] <vanishing> mneptok: and no warning, but simply kick?
[01:52] <mneptok> you know the rules, but choose to ignore them. you basically admit as much. but suddenly when you say you won;t ask more Lucid questions, we're supposed to have an unshakeable faith that that is the case.
[01:53] <mneptok> if you know Lucid questions do not belong in the channel, then don't ask them there.
[01:53] <mneptok> full stop.
[01:53] <vanishing> mneptok: that does not explain the kcik
[01:53] <vanishing> kcik*
[01:54] <vanishing> kick*
[01:54] <mneptok> you were kicked for continuing to be argumentative, and being deliberately confrintational
[01:54] <bazhang> dhanesh still ban evading
[01:55] <mneptok> i said "i do not have confidence that you will not ask Lucid questions" and your (snarky, IMO) response was "where do you get your confidence?"
[01:56] <mneptok> you decided to cop an attitude and be argumentative. you chose the a person with op privileges to do that with. now you're complaining about the outcomes of your own actions.
[01:56] <vanishing> mneptok: i was simply curious how did you know whether i was going to ask more lucid questions or not, and where did you get your confidence. a
[01:57] <vanishing> mneptok: and i think you abused your power too much
[01:58] <mneptok> you're entitled to think whatver you'd like. doesn't make it true.
[01:58]  * mneptok heads off for some dinner
[01:58] <vanishing> mneptok: samething apply to you
[01:58] <vanishing> mneptok: so do NOT abuse your power :)
[02:00] <bazhang> no response via PM
[02:03] <Flannel> bazhang: which channel?
[02:03] <Flannel> vanishing: Is there anything else we can help you with tonight?
[02:03] <bazhang> Flannel, #ubuntu ; I Pm'ed and he finally parted, asked him to join here
[02:03] <vanishing> Flannel: yea
[02:04] <vanishing> Flannel: punish mneptok ..lols
[02:04] <vanishing> Flannel: lols..thanks for the support
[02:04] <vanishing> Flannel: good night
[02:04] <bazhang> bye
[02:15] <bazhang> he;s gone
[02:15] <bazhang> err he's
[02:15] <Pici> odd
[04:29] <bazhang> removed
[06:23] <elky> !staff | l0de is an issue and your wannabes are being obnoxious in #f
[07:21] <thief`> hello?
[09:51] <Tm_T> ciao!
[12:19]  * elky looks at -women and raises an eyebrow
[12:24]  * elky gets the stapler out ready
[12:42] <Tm_T> highvoltage: hi
[12:44] <elky> Tm_T, i pinged him elsewhere
[12:44] <elky> he's closed the client. oddly he wasn't flaking elsewhere.
[12:45] <Tm_T> I see
[13:31] <Tm_T> 1530.36 -!- SandGorgon is "... and I go apeshit on you"
[13:31] <ikonia> @mark slam_dunk #ubuntu bacta ban doding in #ubuntu on 203.100.212.17 and discussing it in ##club-ubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> @mark slamdrunk #ubuntu bacta ban dodging in #ubuntu on 203.100.212.17
[13:34] <ikonia> !staff | bacta - the user you just removed a kline from is caught ban dodging on purpose in #ubuntu again
[13:34] <ikonia> ughh, I'm not with it today
[13:57] <elky> !weechat
[14:03] <elky> ikonia, is he also gurgling about his -women trollingz there too?
[17:39] <ikonia> elky: not seen anything on that
[18:02] <ikonia> looking
[20:53] <Losha> hello ops, anyone there?
[20:55] <tsimpson> Losha: is there something we can help you with?
[20:55] <Losha> In #ubuntu, the topic came up of adding an alias to ubottu for 'firewall' as 'nat'. Who would/could approve that?
[20:57] <tsimpson> you can suggest the change with '/msg ubottu nat is <alias> firewall' and someone here will review it
[20:58] <Losha> Thank you. And thanks to all the ops for their work. o+o
[21:04] <Tm_T> where's the fifth council member?
[21:05] <tsimpson> not here :(
[21:06] <Tm_T> haven't seen him at all lately
[21:06] <tsimpson> he's been idle for nearly 19 hours
[23:41] <knome> hahaha
[23:55] <jpds> Fail.