| bjsnider | Sarvatt, are hyrbid graphics laptops supported at all? do they work? | 00:09 |
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| zombie0 | I am having graphics issues on my laptop using a hybrid nvidia g210m and onboard intel. After a recent update to 10.04 my video has stopped work | 00:14 |
| zombie0 | *working | 00:14 |
| zombie0 | After selecting an image in grub it goes to a blank screen and thats as far as I can get | 00:14 |
| bjsnider | zombie0, you had working compiz off the livecd? | 00:16 |
| zombie0 | well I just booted the live cd | 00:16 |
| zombie0 | let me see | 00:17 |
| zombie0 | bjsnider yep working compiz with live cd | 00:17 |
| zombie0 | not using propriatery drivers | 00:17 |
| Sarvatt | bjsnider: totally depends on the laptop | 00:17 |
| bjsnider | open a terminal and run glxinfo | 00:17 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, have you got a list or something? | 00:18 |
| zombie0 | mesa-utils isnt installed and its saying that it isnt available | 00:19 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, does it depend on his ability to shut one chip off manually int he bios? | 00:19 |
| bjsnider | zombie0, have you got a network connection to the web on that laptop? | 00:20 |
| zombie0 | I am setting a hardline up now | 00:20 |
| zombie0 | bjsnider: Ok have a connection but should I update/upgrade? because it still cant find it as of now | 00:21 |
| zombie0 | let me check if universe is enabled | 00:21 |
| zombie0 | it wasnt | 00:22 |
| zombie0 | got it now | 00:22 |
| bjsnider | i want to know who the renderer is | 00:23 |
| Sarvatt | bjsnider: you have to dig through https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/312756?comments=all :) its really complicated by how its done different between different GPU combinations and different manufacturers (and bios revisions even..) | 00:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312756 in xorg-server "support graphics card hot switch" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 00:24 |
| zombie0 | pastebin.com/mUrqvZNG | 00:25 |
| Sarvatt | he's using the intel if compiz works on a livecd | 00:25 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, didn't dave airlie just write the first code to deal with this? | 00:25 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, must be, yes | 00:25 |
| zombie0 | Mobile Intel GM45 | 00:26 |
| bjsnider | if he could just get it to do that exery time he'd be fine | 00:26 |
| zombie0 | yea maybe add a xorg.conf entry for that driver instead | 00:26 |
| bjsnider | you might have to blacklist nouveau, nv and nvidia too | 00:27 |
| zombie0 | not really sure how to do that | 00:27 |
| bjsnider | but it could still decide to use vesa with the nvidia chip | 00:27 |
| Sarvatt | zombie0: did you install the proprietary drivers or something? | 00:27 |
| zombie0 | I didnt try to but I have a feeling on of the updates attempted to | 00:27 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, without nvidia-current it selects nouveau | 00:28 |
| bjsnider | because he has no glx | 00:28 |
| bjsnider | and he doesn't have a manual switch in the bios | 00:28 |
| bjsnider | the fact that the hardware is sending power to the nvidia chip is the problem. the kernel sees it and watns to use it | 00:29 |
| bjsnider | maybe the laptop only uses the intel chip if you're booting off the cd instead of the hard drive | 00:31 |
| zombie0 | so would it be worth trying to blacklist those other types of drivers? | 00:34 |
| zombie0 | well I can now get regular video on boot by using driver "intel" with xorg.conf | 00:42 |
| zombie0 | but no glx | 00:43 |
| zombie0 | uninstalled nvidia-current and nouveau and now its picking up the intel glx | 00:48 |
| zombie0 | all good, reboots with glx enabled | 00:51 |
| zombie0 | bjsnider and Sarvatt: thanks alot for the help guys! really needed it. Have a great night and a beer on me :) | 00:53 |
| Sarvatt | ahh sorry, went afk there but it did sound like that was the problem, jockey probably saw the device and offered it when its not the graphics device in use | 00:54 |
| bjsnider | where's my beer? | 01:06 |
| bjsnider | what happens when the hardware decides to switch to nvidia? | 01:06 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: Then we ask him to test 2.6.34, where VGA switcheroo is implemented. | 01:28 |
| bjsnider | RAOF, that's the airlie code? | 01:29 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: Yeah. ACPI methods to switch graphics cards. | 01:29 |
| bjsnider | i'm not sure xorg/mesa is prepared for that | 01:30 |
| johanbr | last I heard, it required restarting X | 01:32 |
| ripps | hmm.... I think my Xorg became very slow after a save-file dialog in my browser. Perhaps that's what's causing the Xorg high cpu usage. Is there a program associated with open-save dialog windows? | 01:50 |
| Sarvatt | ripps: gtk+ | 01:57 |
| Sarvatt | ripps: are you using chromium by any chance? :D | 01:57 |
| ripps | Sarvatt: sorry, I was away from computer. Yes, I'm using chromium | 03:05 |
| ripps | But the Xorg cpu usage persists even after I've closed chromium | 03:06 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, our cairo pad patch is slightly different than what other distros are using - http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/cairo/cairo-1.8.6-repeat-modes.patch?view=markup | 03:29 |
| Sarvatt | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/cairo/lucid/annotate/head:/debian/patches/06_Xlib-Xcb-Hand-off-EXTEND_PAD-to-XRender.patch | 03:29 |
| Sarvatt | wooo, mass X lib update | 04:13 |
| * hyperair wonders whether the nvidia binary drivers are working in lucid yet | 08:30 | |
| tjaalton | just fine | 08:50 |
| RAOF | Have been working for some time. | 09:13 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Hm, yeah. We should probably grab that change for Maverick. It looks like it will expose some untested driver paths if we grab it now. Also, firefox is now bundlezilla, so won't benefit. | 09:18 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: any ideas on what to do about nouveau in edgers? i'd like to drop lbm since i cant keep it updated and make it require a 2.6.34 kernel somehow | 17:35 |
| Sarvatt | wish I could copy the mainline kernels directly into the PPA :D | 17:35 |
| johanbr | actually, why not? | 17:36 |
| Sarvatt | why not what? | 17:38 |
| johanbr | put the mainline kernels into the PPA | 17:38 |
| Sarvatt | because they are built with external scripts i cant do in a ppa I believe? i haven't had time to work this out | 17:40 |
| Sarvatt | i dont know how to bump the abi properly for a PPA kernel | 17:42 |
| johanbr | oh | 17:43 |
| Sarvatt | i dont use it and have a lot of other things taking up my time, and nouveau in edgers is stagnating because i havent been able to update it in almost a month (outside of mesa) because we can't update lbm-nouveau due to the backlight changes in 2.6.34 that upstream rebased onto | 17:51 |
| johanbr | well, maybe the easiest thing is just to wait until the first lucid+1 kernel is released | 17:56 |
| Sarvatt | it already is, i could copy it in there | 17:57 |
| Sarvatt | but it'd be a lot more useful to be able to merge upstream nouveau into it | 17:57 |
| johanbr | oh, I didn't realize it was already out... | 18:01 |
| Sarvatt | oh man, so many compiz fixes upstream since our version :( | 18:03 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: driconf options would be good to have added to mesa bug reports | 18:13 |
| Sarvatt | hmm doesn't look like fglrx is getting removed properly upgrading from hardy-lucid on the cards that fglrx no longer supports | 18:43 |
| Sarvatt | maybe it'd be a good idea to just completely remove fglrx on upgrade and people can install it manually again after | 18:57 |
| johanbr | wouldn't that break some setups? | 19:05 |
| johanbr | say you specify fglrx in xorg.conf, and then fglrx is removed | 19:05 |
| tjaalton | update-manager could take care of that. the same thing happens with nvidia aiui | 19:41 |
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