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LaserJockhow do I keep a desktopcouch DB out of Ubuntu One?00:40
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haavarosHi every1! I'm trying to publish a jpg on one.ubuntu.com, but I can't get it to work ... Is it not possible to share jpgs?01:45
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tritiumSo, if I delete ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/bookmarks.couch on my local machine, let's say, how do I know if the data is deleted from my Ubuntu One account as well?05:09
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LaserJockany desktopcouch experts around?06:03
LaserJockI'm having trouble with being unable to re-add a record06:04
tritiumHi, LaserJock!06:04
LaserJocktritium: good grief, long time dude06:07
tritiumNo kidding!06:07
tritiumHow are you?06:08
LaserJockpretty good06:09
LaserJockdoing some late night hacking06:09
LaserJockand working on my CV for a job app06:09
tritiumExcellent.06:09
LaserJockhow about you?06:10
LaserJockstill in NM?06:10
tritiumI'm trying to figure out how to delete couch databases from Ubuntu One.  I know how to delete them locally from ~/.local/share/desktop-couch.06:10
tritiumYes, I'm still here.  Where are you?06:10
LaserJockBoston06:10
tritiumWow, really?06:10
LaserJockyeah, working for the air force06:10
tritiumOh, congrats!06:11
LaserJockthe entire lab will be moving to Kirtland in about 1 year06:11
LaserJockbut unfortunately I don't think I'm moving with it06:11
tritiumNo kidding?  That's too bad.  You'd be here in NM also.06:11
LaserJockit wouldn't be bad06:12
tritiumIf you end up coming, let me know.06:12
LaserJockbut I'm not sure I'm long-term air force material06:12
LaserJockI think I'm too much of an academic06:12
tritiumI understand.06:12
LaserJockman, it is really stinking hard to get rid of data in desktopcouch06:17
LaserJockI keep deleting/compacting DBs using the web interface06:17
LaserJockand they keep popping back up06:17
tritiumYes, I'm trying to do the same thing.  The bug with bindwood is annoying me, so I've been trying to delete my bookmarks, and it occurred to me that there may be a privacy concern here.06:17
tritiumI see no way to delete your data from "the cloud."  Your couch DBs are not visible from your Ubuntu One directory, or the web interface.06:18
LaserJockit's difficult to know where it goes06:19
LaserJockI'm just playing around with an app06:19
LaserJockbut I think my test DB is in Ubuntu One somewhere06:19
tritiumThat's disturbing.06:19
LaserJockespecially since I don't use Ubuntu One, yeah06:20
tritiumAh, wow.06:20
tritiumAnd answers are hard to come by.06:20
LaserJockI found how to exclude a particular DB I think06:22
LaserJockbut that'd be sort of after-the-fact-lets-not-do-that-anymore06:22
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duanedesign'lo all11:10
kermiachi duanedesign, congrats on your bugcontrol membership :)11:12
duanedesignthank you kermiac11:13
duanedesignkermiac: i was pretty excited about it. Its been a good week.11:14
duanedesignkermiac: i made forum staff this week too :)11:14
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kermiacduanedesign: awesome, sounds like a great week for you :) I added a +1 to your control application but you had already been approved hehe11:16
duanedesignkermiac: i appreciatte it regardless11:16
kermiacnp duanedesign :)11:17
duanedesignthe ubuntu one phone sync seems to be popular I have seen it mentioned in several different places/11:18
kermiacyup, lots of ppl are talking aboutit :)11:19
kermiacit's all kinds of awesome... another killer feature for Ubuntu :)11:20
kermiachey duanedesign, if you've got time can you have a look at http://mitchtowner.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ubuntu_one_bug_workflow_edited.png11:20
kermiacI edited the bug workflow diagram to reflect the changes we agreed to relating to old bugs - just need someone to make sure it makes sense... I haven't used dia before11:21
* duanedesign looking11:28
duanedesignkermiac: some of the type went a little weird. Probably when you .png'ed dit11:32
duanedesignbut other thatn that, looks great11:32
kermiacduanedesign: yeah, it's not like that in the .dia file :)11:32
* duanedesign needs to become familiar with the different teams11:33
duanedesignkermiac: I need to become familiar with assigning the different teams11:34
kermiacduanedesign: yeah, me too.... I haven't seen that documented anywhere though11:34
kermiacmight be something to ping rye or joshuahoover about. If it is documented somewhere, one or both of them would know :)11:35
duanedesignkermiac:11:35
duanedesignhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs/WorkFlow#Assignment11:35
duanedesignugh i got some lag11:35
* kermiac looks11:36
duanedesignafk for a bit. need to go get some coffee11:36
kermiacthx for pointing that out to me duanedesign, I must have skipped past that section11:37
kermiacrye, joshuahoover, duanedesign: updated bug workflow diagram & png added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs/WorkFlow11:50
raphaSo when I bought an album yesterday and today half of it was in my Ubuntu One account, should I just wait for the rest to arrive as well, or did anything go wrong?14:17
duanedesignrapha: hello14:31
duanedesignrapha: do you see the music bought in https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ in User Desitgnated Folders14:32
raphaduanedesign: no, not all of it. about half of the album shows up there.14:38
duanedesignok14:38
raphaAnd it's "User Defined Folders", duanedesign, not "Designated" (for me at least, dunno what it's supposed to say)14:39
raphaduanedesign: I just see under "My Downloads" it says "There was a problem completing the download" for three files.14:40
raphaduanedesign: but when I click "Try downloading again", nothing happens14:40
rapha(I realize this is all Beta, just wanna make sure it's tracked)14:41
duanedesignrapha: OK, there is a bug in the server code that downloads songs. The developers are aware of the  problem and trying to fix it.14:41
raphaah, perfect, thanks!14:41
duanedesignrapha: no you definetly did the right thing by coming here and mentioning it14:41
rapha:-)14:41
duanedesignit looks like this came up starting yesterday aftternoon.14:42
raphaPeople like me might be tolerant of stuff like this, but I realize that when 10.04 is out and I have my girlfriend try this and it fails, she's not gonna look at it again anymore.14:42
duanedesignrapha: If you notice no change by Monday. I know that is awhile to wait, come back here and the whole team will be here.14:43
raphaNah that's okay ... it only should work by the time 10.04 is released (April 28th, iirr)14:44
duanedesignrapha: you are so right14:44
raphaNormally it is my opinion that one shouldn't demand anything from Free Software, but this isn't exactly free, is it :]14:44
duanedesignlike you said a lot of people are only going to trry once14:45
raphayeah14:45
duanedesigni hope they get the phone sync working well too. That will be nice to be able to sync contacts from your phone14:46
raphawould be sad - since this is an absolute KILLER feature. I've seen what iTunes looks like on Windows or a Mac, and it's anything but pretty and the interface is cluttered on end. This, in contrast, has all the beauty and simplicity of Ubuntu while offering the same core functionality.14:46
raphaPhone syncing?!?! You're kidding me? BUILT-IN?14:46
duanedesignthey have quite a few phone models they are supporting too14:47
raphaIs there a list anywhere?14:47
duanedesignrapha: yep. you can alpha test it if you like.....let me find the link14:48
duanedesignrapha: https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/14:48
raphai would love to, but my phone thought it was a bird and flew out of a 4th story window - waiting for the replacement to arrive14:49
duanedesignrapha: [b]euno is the developer on that if you get a chance to try it14:49
raphaYay! They got it! Nokia E71 was right there in the list.14:49
raphagood to know14:50
duanedesignrapha: yeah mine is not working right now either14:50
duanedesignrapha: i went to AT&T to get a new one. I was excited because they now have an Android phone. But apparrently it has a lock on it so you can only install certain apps14:51
raphawoah my gf's phone is also in the list ... and that one is working. do you know if I can create a ubuntuOne account for her even though she's still got Ubuntu 9.10 installed?14:51
duanedesignrapha: yes14:51
raphaduanedesign: maybe there's some way to jailbreak it?14:51
duanedesignrapha: good idea i will look14:51
* rapha is curious to see if this phone thing will work in Germany as well14:51
duanedesignrapha: when I had an iphone I jailbroke it and I loved it14:52
raphastupid capitalism with all their lock-in orgies14:52
duanedesignrapha: +!14:52
duanedesign+114:52
rapha:-]14:52
dancalloI installed URN 9.10 on my Acer netbook, but my UbuntuOne app will not connect. Any help?14:52
dancalloUNR not URN14:53
duanedesignthe whole point of Android is the freedom.14:53
raphawas supposed to be, at least...14:53
raphamy uncle has the new nokia maemo phone ... that thing rocks - you have a fully working terminal right out of the box!14:53
duanedesigndancallo: what version of Ubuntu One do you have?    dpkg -l ubuntuone-client    will tell you14:54
dancalloone moment14:54
duanedesignrapha: nice14:54
EmryWhat is the channel name for the music store? :)14:56
dancalloversion 1.0.3-ubuntu114:56
duanedesignEmry: #u1msbeta14:56
EmryThanks14:57
dancalloduanedesign: version 1.0.3-ubuntu114:57
duanedesigndancallo: ok. Can you see if you have anything in the file.   ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log14:57
dancallook14:57
duanedesigndancallo: if there is anything in there you can paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com then post the address here14:58
dancallocan't seem to get to that directory15:01
duanedesigndancallo: you will have to do ctrl-h to see the .cache folder. Also you can do this command from the Terminal.  gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log15:03
dancalloduanedesign: nothing in that log file.15:04
raphaoh that password policy of U1 drives me nuts15:05
duanedesigndancallo: ok then can you paste the following at paste.ubuntu.com.   ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log15:06
dancallook15:06
dancalloduanedesign: ok, I pasted that string in the paste.ubuntuone.com. What does that do for me?15:09
duanedesignsorry i should of been more clear15:10
duanedesigndancallo: in a Terminal run:  gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log15:11
dancallok15:11
duanedesigndancallo: then you will copy and paste the contents of that file into paste.ubuntu.com15:11
dancalloduanedesign: you meant the contents of that log file not the string?15:11
dancallogot it.15:11
duanedesignafter you hit the paste button it will generate an address like paste.ubuntu.com/ehi7cvg. post that here15:12
dancallogot it15:12
duanedesigndancallo: can you post the address here?15:16
dancalloduanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/412134/15:16
duanedesignaha :)15:16
duanedesigndancallo: it looks like its waiting on you a 'connect' signal15:18
duanedesigndancallo: do you have the applet in your top panel?15:18
dancalloyes, sorry I was away for a few.15:19
dancalloThere is a red X on it15:19
dancalloWhen I left click and select Connect, nothing happens15:20
duanedesigndancallo: ok in a Terminal run:15:22
duanedesignsudo killall ubuntuone-client-applet ubuntuone-syncdaemon15:22
dancallok15:23
duanedesignthen run:15:23
duanedesign/usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug > ~/syncdaemon-debug.log15:23
dancallois there a way to cut and paste this into the terminal? Ctrl C and Ctrl V?15:23
duanedesignyes you can Ctrl-C  depending on your clien15:23
duanedesignchat client*15:24
duanedesignbut to paste into Terminal you will R-click15:24
duanedesignand select Paste15:24
dancallok15:24
dancalloone moment15:24
dancalloduanedesign: X-terminal working15:26
dancallonothing resulting yet15:27
duanedesignok15:27
duanedesignopen Ubuntu One15:27
duanedesignApplications > Internet > Ubuntu One15:28
dancalloworking15:28
duanedesignand click on the applet and hit connect15:28
duanedesignmaybe put a small file in the Ubuntu one folder to see if it uploads to https://one.ubuntu.com/files/15:30
dancalloduanedesign: I'm running UNR-9.10 so there is no Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One, but I have Ubuntu One app lin Internet and double clicked on it. It has a red X on it at the top of the screen15:30
duanedesignok15:31
duanedesignyou should now have a folder in your HOME directory called ~/syncdaemon-debug.log15:31
dancallochecking15:32
duanedesignif you could post that at paste.ubuntu.com15:32
raphaduanedesign: too bad, my gf doesn't have a dataplan ... but the instructions for setting it up were spot-on, tailored to that exact phone model - very impressive!15:32
dancalloduanedesign: don't see that log file15:33
raphaduanedesign: the only problem that she might have had if she had tried to set it up herself would be that the instructions are only available in English which she doesn't speak15:33
dancallothe X-terminal never resolved anything15:33
dancalloduanedesign: I found that file. Did you want me to paste its contents at paste.ubuntu.com15:36
duanedesigndancallo: yes please15:36
dancalloworking15:36
dancalloduanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/412141/15:37
dancalloduanedesign: been able to figure anything out based on te log file?15:41
topylire user-specified folders sync. let's say i sync ~/Documents and ~/Pictures on machine A. these will sync to ~/Documents and ~/Pictures on machine B?15:45
dancalloduanedesign: I was able to get UbuntuOne to connect. The problem was OpenID login.15:45
dancalloduanedesign: thank you for all your help.15:46
topylion dropbox, and ubuntuone so far, the best option has been to throw everything in ~/Dropbox or ~/Ubuntu One, and symlink ~/Ubuntu One/Documents to ~/Documents. this is not needed anymore?15:46
duanedesigntopyli: that is a good question15:48
topyliduanedesign, i've fought dropbox and learned :)15:49
duanedesigntopyli: I am starting up my other computer to see where my UDF are15:49
topyliduanedesign, thanks, will be a big help as i plan15:50
* guntbert wonders if the topic is meant literally16:52
guntberthonk16:52
guntberthow do I restart a crashed u1 client (preferably from CLI) ?16:53
topyligah. i can't figure out how to add my computer to ubuntu one. i have an account, i run the client, i click "manage account", i select "view computers in this account", and there are none20:10
topylii can't find an option to add one anywhere20:10
topylihonk :)20:11
duanedesignhello topyli20:11
topyliohai duanedesign20:12
duanedesign920:12
guntberttopyli: you do that from the u1 client - you have to log in there20:12
duanedesignit should ask you to add your computer when you launch Ubuntu One for the first time20:13
duanedesignif it does not you might have a token left over from a previous install?20:13
topyliit just says "disconnected" and asks nothing. leftovers from a previous install is quite possible20:14
topylii've tried it before20:14
duanedesignOpen Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys20:14
duanedesignhello topyli  and look for Ubuntu One Token20:15
duanedesignoops20:15
topylilet me find20:15
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topyliduanedesign, yes there is a token. delete?20:15
duanedesignRight-click on the Ubuntu One token and select "Delete"20:16
topyliduanedesign, done. now start the client?20:16
duanedesignGo to https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/20:16
topyliah20:16
duanedesign Click on the checkbox next to your computer and select Remove selected computer20:16
topylino machines, i have removed the entire account previously, just created a new one20:17
duanedesignok20:18
topylinow start the client?20:18
duanedesignyes20:18
duanedesignare you on Lucid or Karmic?20:18
topylilucid20:18
duanedesignkk20:18
duanedesignyou should be prompted to add your computer when you run Ubuntu One20:19
guntberthow do I restart a crashed u1 client (preferably from CLI) ?20:19
topyliduanedesign, ok, now it does just that20:19
topylithanks a lot duanedesign20:19
duanedesignare you on Lucid or Karmic guntbert20:19
duanedesignu1sdtool -q will quit the syncdaemon20:20
topyligrr but now it can't connect to the url on localhost. maybe it's because i'm using epiphany? :)20:20
guntbertduanedesign: this issue is on karmic - in lucid i got a "cannot connect to localhost ...)20:21
duanedesigntopyli: i am not positive, but that might be it20:21
duanedesignlet me see if i can find some info on that20:21
guntbertduanedesign: thx that worked to restart the client20:22
topyliduanedesign, indeed copy/pasting the url to firefox worked20:22
duanedesigntopyli: i will make a note and see what i cant figure out about that.20:23
topylithanks. not a big issue, as long as the default apps work i guess :)20:24
duanedesignI am sure the devs are aware, but just to make sure i will mention it20:24
guntbertduanedesign: one more lucid question (my system connected fine now): should the "cloud" icon still be in the notification area?20:48
duanedesignguntbert: hello21:47
duanedesignin Lucid the applet has been replaced by the Ubuntu One Preferences Panel21:47
duanedesignMe Menu > Ubuntu oNe or System > Preferences > ubuntu oNe21:48
guntbertduanedesign: thx - that gives much more info - I only wondered about the missing notification21:49
rickspencer3hi21:57
rickspencer3anyone know how I can delete a value from a record in desktopcouch?21:58
rickspencer3like if I have a record {"record_type":x,"_id",y:"_rev":z,"foo":"bar"}21:59
rickspencer3and I want to delete the foo key and value from it?21:59
rickspencer3currently, I think I might need to create a new record with just the values I want to keep, but I'll lose the _rev, I think22:00
elehackrickspencer3, yes, that is what you need to do, I believe, and it constitutes a new revision so _rev should change anyway.22:01
rickspencer3elehack, ok22:01
rickspencer3so I throw away _rev, but keep the _id?22:01
elehacki'm not sure on the details.22:01
rickspencer3ok22:01
rickspencer3I'll hack at it a bit22:01
rickspencer3thanks elehack, much appreciated22:01
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