[00:40] <LaserJock> how do I keep a desktopcouch DB out of Ubuntu One?
[01:45] <haavaros> Hi every1! I'm trying to publish a jpg on one.ubuntu.com, but I can't get it to work ... Is it not possible to share jpgs?
[05:09] <tritium> So, if I delete ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/bookmarks.couch on my local machine, let's say, how do I know if the data is deleted from my Ubuntu One account as well?
[06:03] <LaserJock> any desktopcouch experts around?
[06:04] <LaserJock> I'm having trouble with being unable to re-add a record
[06:04] <tritium> Hi, LaserJock!
[06:07] <LaserJock> tritium: good grief, long time dude
[06:07] <tritium> No kidding!
[06:08] <tritium> How are you?
[06:09] <LaserJock> pretty good
[06:09] <LaserJock> doing some late night hacking
[06:09] <LaserJock> and working on my CV for a job app
[06:09] <tritium> Excellent.
[06:10] <LaserJock> how about you?
[06:10] <LaserJock> still in NM?
[06:10] <tritium> I'm trying to figure out how to delete couch databases from Ubuntu One.  I know how to delete them locally from ~/.local/share/desktop-couch.
[06:10] <tritium> Yes, I'm still here.  Where are you?
[06:10] <LaserJock> Boston
[06:10] <tritium> Wow, really?
[06:10] <LaserJock> yeah, working for the air force
[06:11] <tritium> Oh, congrats!
[06:11] <LaserJock> the entire lab will be moving to Kirtland in about 1 year
[06:11] <LaserJock> but unfortunately I don't think I'm moving with it
[06:11] <tritium> No kidding?  That's too bad.  You'd be here in NM also.
[06:12] <LaserJock> it wouldn't be bad
[06:12] <tritium> If you end up coming, let me know.
[06:12] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure I'm long-term air force material
[06:12] <LaserJock> I think I'm too much of an academic
[06:12] <tritium> I understand.
[06:17] <LaserJock> man, it is really stinking hard to get rid of data in desktopcouch
[06:17] <LaserJock> I keep deleting/compacting DBs using the web interface
[06:17] <LaserJock> and they keep popping back up
[06:17] <tritium> Yes, I'm trying to do the same thing.  The bug with bindwood is annoying me, so I've been trying to delete my bookmarks, and it occurred to me that there may be a privacy concern here.
[06:18] <tritium> I see no way to delete your data from "the cloud."  Your couch DBs are not visible from your Ubuntu One directory, or the web interface.
[06:19] <LaserJock> it's difficult to know where it goes
[06:19] <LaserJock> I'm just playing around with an app
[06:19] <LaserJock> but I think my test DB is in Ubuntu One somewhere
[06:19] <tritium> That's disturbing.
[06:20] <LaserJock> especially since I don't use Ubuntu One, yeah
[06:20] <tritium> Ah, wow.
[06:20] <tritium> And answers are hard to come by.
[06:22] <LaserJock> I found how to exclude a particular DB I think
[06:22] <LaserJock> but that'd be sort of after-the-fact-lets-not-do-that-anymore
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[11:10] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[11:12] <kermiac> hi duanedesign, congrats on your bugcontrol membership :)
[11:13] <duanedesign> thank you kermiac
[11:14] <duanedesign> kermiac: i was pretty excited about it. Its been a good week.
[11:14] <duanedesign> kermiac: i made forum staff this week too :)
[11:16] <kermiac> duanedesign: awesome, sounds like a great week for you :) I added a +1 to your control application but you had already been approved hehe
[11:16] <duanedesign> kermiac: i appreciatte it regardless
[11:17] <kermiac> np duanedesign :)
[11:18] <duanedesign> the ubuntu one phone sync seems to be popular I have seen it mentioned in several different places/
[11:19] <kermiac> yup, lots of ppl are talking aboutit :)
[11:20] <kermiac> it's all kinds of awesome... another killer feature for Ubuntu :)
[11:20] <kermiac> hey duanedesign, if you've got time can you have a look at http://mitchtowner.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ubuntu_one_bug_workflow_edited.png
[11:21] <kermiac> I edited the bug workflow diagram to reflect the changes we agreed to relating to old bugs - just need someone to make sure it makes sense... I haven't used dia before
[11:28]  * duanedesign looking
[11:32] <duanedesign> kermiac: some of the type went a little weird. Probably when you .png'ed dit
[11:32] <duanedesign> but other thatn that, looks great
[11:32] <kermiac> duanedesign: yeah, it's not like that in the .dia file :)
[11:33]  * duanedesign needs to become familiar  with the different teams
[11:34] <duanedesign> kermiac: I need to become familiar with assigning the different teams
[11:34] <kermiac> duanedesign: yeah, me too.... I haven't seen that documented anywhere though
[11:35] <kermiac> might be something to ping rye or joshuahoover about. If it is documented somewhere, one or both of them would know :)
[11:35] <duanedesign> kermiac:
[11:35] <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs/WorkFlow#Assignment
[11:35] <duanedesign> ugh i got some lag
[11:36]  * kermiac looks
[11:36] <duanedesign> afk for a bit. need to go get some coffee
[11:37] <kermiac> thx for pointing that out to me duanedesign, I must have skipped past that section
[11:50] <kermiac> rye, joshuahoover, duanedesign: updated bug workflow diagram & png added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs/WorkFlow
[14:17] <rapha> So when I bought an album yesterday and today half of it was in my Ubuntu One account, should I just wait for the rest to arrive as well, or did anything go wrong?
[14:31] <duanedesign> rapha: hello
[14:32] <duanedesign> rapha: do you see the music bought in https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ in User Desitgnated Folders
[14:38] <rapha> duanedesign: no, not all of it. about half of the album shows up there.
[14:38] <duanedesign> ok
[14:39] <rapha> And it's "User Defined Folders", duanedesign, not "Designated" (for me at least, dunno what it's supposed to say)
[14:40] <rapha> duanedesign: I just see under "My Downloads" it says "There was a problem completing the download" for three files.
[14:40] <rapha> duanedesign: but when I click "Try downloading again", nothing happens
[14:41] <rapha> (I realize this is all Beta, just wanna make sure it's tracked)
[14:41] <duanedesign> rapha: OK, there is a bug in the server code that downloads songs. The developers are aware of the  problem and trying to fix it.
[14:41] <rapha> ah, perfect, thanks!
[14:41] <duanedesign> rapha: no you definetly did the right thing by coming here and mentioning it
[14:41] <rapha> :-)
[14:42] <duanedesign> it looks like this came up starting yesterday aftternoon.
[14:42] <rapha> People like me might be tolerant of stuff like this, but I realize that when 10.04 is out and I have my girlfriend try this and it fails, she's not gonna look at it again anymore.
[14:43] <duanedesign> rapha: If you notice no change by Monday. I know that is awhile to wait, come back here and the whole team will be here.
[14:44] <rapha> Nah that's okay ... it only should work by the time 10.04 is released (April 28th, iirr)
[14:44] <duanedesign> rapha: you are so right
[14:44] <rapha> Normally it is my opinion that one shouldn't demand anything from Free Software, but this isn't exactly free, is it :]
[14:45] <duanedesign> like you said a lot of people are only going to trry once
[14:45] <rapha> yeah
[14:46] <duanedesign> i hope they get the phone sync working well too. That will be nice to be able to sync contacts from your phone
[14:46] <rapha> would be sad - since this is an absolute KILLER feature. I've seen what iTunes looks like on Windows or a Mac, and it's anything but pretty and the interface is cluttered on end. This, in contrast, has all the beauty and simplicity of Ubuntu while offering the same core functionality.
[14:46] <rapha> Phone syncing?!?! You're kidding me? BUILT-IN?
[14:47] <duanedesign> they have quite a few phone models they are supporting too
[14:47] <rapha> Is there a list anywhere?
[14:48] <duanedesign> rapha: yep. you can alpha test it if you like.....let me find the link
[14:48] <duanedesign> rapha: https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/
[14:49] <rapha> i would love to, but my phone thought it was a bird and flew out of a 4th story window - waiting for the replacement to arrive
[14:49] <duanedesign> rapha: [b]euno is the developer on that if you get a chance to try it
[14:49] <rapha> Yay! They got it! Nokia E71 was right there in the list.
[14:50] <rapha> good to know
[14:50] <duanedesign> rapha: yeah mine is not working right now either
[14:51] <duanedesign> rapha: i went to AT&T to get a new one. I was excited because they now have an Android phone. But apparrently it has a lock on it so you can only install certain apps
[14:51] <rapha> woah my gf's phone is also in the list ... and that one is working. do you know if I can create a ubuntuOne account for her even though she's still got Ubuntu 9.10 installed?
[14:51] <duanedesign> rapha: yes
[14:51] <rapha> duanedesign: maybe there's some way to jailbreak it?
[14:51] <duanedesign> rapha: good idea i will look
[14:51]  * rapha is curious to see if this phone thing will work in Germany as well
[14:52] <duanedesign> rapha: when I had an iphone I jailbroke it and I loved it
[14:52] <rapha> stupid capitalism with all their lock-in orgies
[14:52] <duanedesign> rapha: +!
[14:52] <duanedesign> +1
[14:52] <rapha> :-]
[14:52] <dancallo> I installed URN 9.10 on my Acer netbook, but my UbuntuOne app will not connect. Any help?
[14:53] <dancallo> UNR not URN
[14:53] <duanedesign> the whole point of Android is the freedom.
[14:53] <rapha> was supposed to be, at least...
[14:53] <rapha> my uncle has the new nokia maemo phone ... that thing rocks - you have a fully working terminal right out of the box!
[14:54] <duanedesign> dancallo: what version of Ubuntu One do you have?    dpkg -l ubuntuone-client    will tell you
[14:54] <dancallo> one moment
[14:54] <duanedesign> rapha: nice
[14:56] <Emry> What is the channel name for the music store? :)
[14:56] <dancallo> version 1.0.3-ubuntu1
[14:56] <duanedesign> Emry: #u1msbeta
[14:57] <Emry> Thanks
[14:57] <dancallo> duanedesign: version 1.0.3-ubuntu1
[14:57] <duanedesign> dancallo: ok. Can you see if you have anything in the file.   ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[14:57] <dancallo> ok
[14:58] <duanedesign> dancallo: if there is anything in there you can paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com then post the address here
[15:01] <dancallo> can't seem to get to that directory
[15:03] <duanedesign> dancallo: you will have to do ctrl-h to see the .cache folder. Also you can do this command from the Terminal.  gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[15:04] <dancallo> duanedesign: nothing in that log file.
[15:05] <rapha> oh that password policy of U1 drives me nuts
[15:06] <duanedesign> dancallo: ok then can you paste the following at paste.ubuntu.com.   ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[15:06] <dancallo> ok
[15:09] <dancallo> duanedesign: ok, I pasted that string in the paste.ubuntuone.com. What does that do for me?
[15:10] <duanedesign> sorry i should of been more clear
[15:11] <duanedesign> dancallo: in a Terminal run:  gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[15:11] <dancallo> k
[15:11] <duanedesign> dancallo: then you will copy and paste the contents of that file into paste.ubuntu.com
[15:11] <dancallo> duanedesign: you meant the contents of that log file not the string?
[15:11] <dancallo> got it.
[15:12] <duanedesign> after you hit the paste button it will generate an address like paste.ubuntu.com/ehi7cvg. post that here
[15:12] <dancallo> got it
[15:16] <duanedesign> dancallo: can you post the address here?
[15:16] <dancallo> duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/412134/
[15:16] <duanedesign> aha :)
[15:18] <duanedesign> dancallo: it looks like its waiting on you a 'connect' signal
[15:18] <duanedesign> dancallo: do you have the applet in your top panel?
[15:19] <dancallo> yes, sorry I was away for a few.
[15:19] <dancallo> There is a red X on it
[15:20] <dancallo> When I left click and select Connect, nothing happens
[15:22] <duanedesign> dancallo: ok in a Terminal run:
[15:22] <duanedesign> sudo killall ubuntuone-client-applet ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[15:23] <dancallo> k
[15:23] <duanedesign> then run:
[15:23] <duanedesign> /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug > ~/syncdaemon-debug.log
[15:23] <dancallo> is there a way to cut and paste this into the terminal? Ctrl C and Ctrl V?
[15:23] <duanedesign> yes you can Ctrl-C  depending on your clien
[15:24] <duanedesign> chat client*
[15:24] <duanedesign> but to paste into Terminal you will R-click
[15:24] <duanedesign> and select Paste
[15:24] <dancallo> k
[15:24] <dancallo> one moment
[15:26] <dancallo> duanedesign: X-terminal working
[15:27] <dancallo> nothing resulting yet
[15:27] <duanedesign> ok
[15:27] <duanedesign> open Ubuntu One
[15:28] <duanedesign> Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One
[15:28] <dancallo> working
[15:28] <duanedesign> and click on the applet and hit connect
[15:30] <duanedesign> maybe put a small file in the Ubuntu one folder to see if it uploads to https://one.ubuntu.com/files/
[15:30] <dancallo> duanedesign: I'm running UNR-9.10 so there is no Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One, but I have Ubuntu One app lin Internet and double clicked on it. It has a red X on it at the top of the screen
[15:31] <duanedesign> ok
[15:31] <duanedesign> you should now have a folder in your HOME directory called ~/syncdaemon-debug.log
[15:32] <dancallo> checking
[15:32] <duanedesign> if you could post that at paste.ubuntu.com
[15:32] <rapha> duanedesign: too bad, my gf doesn't have a dataplan ... but the instructions for setting it up were spot-on, tailored to that exact phone model - very impressive!
[15:33] <dancallo> duanedesign: don't see that log file
[15:33] <rapha> duanedesign: the only problem that she might have had if she had tried to set it up herself would be that the instructions are only available in English which she doesn't speak
[15:33] <dancallo> the X-terminal never resolved anything
[15:36] <dancallo> duanedesign: I found that file. Did you want me to paste its contents at paste.ubuntu.com
[15:36] <duanedesign> dancallo: yes please
[15:36] <dancallo> working
[15:37] <dancallo> duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/412141/
[15:41] <dancallo> duanedesign: been able to figure anything out based on te log file?
[15:45] <topyli> re user-specified folders sync. let's say i sync ~/Documents and ~/Pictures on machine A. these will sync to ~/Documents and ~/Pictures on machine B?
[15:45] <dancallo> duanedesign: I was able to get UbuntuOne to connect. The problem was OpenID login.
[15:46] <dancallo> duanedesign: thank you for all your help.
[15:46] <topyli> on dropbox, and ubuntuone so far, the best option has been to throw everything in ~/Dropbox or ~/Ubuntu One, and symlink ~/Ubuntu One/Documents to ~/Documents. this is not needed anymore?
[15:48] <duanedesign> topyli: that is a good question
[15:49] <topyli> duanedesign, i've fought dropbox and learned :)
[15:49] <duanedesign> topyli: I am starting up my other computer to see where my UDF are
[15:50] <topyli> duanedesign, thanks, will be a big help as i plan
[16:52]  * guntbert wonders if the topic is meant literally
[16:52] <guntbert> honk
[16:53] <guntbert> how do I restart a crashed u1 client (preferably from CLI) ?
[20:10] <topyli> gah. i can't figure out how to add my computer to ubuntu one. i have an account, i run the client, i click "manage account", i select "view computers in this account", and there are none
[20:10] <topyli> i can't find an option to add one anywhere
[20:11] <topyli> honk :)
[20:11] <duanedesign> hello topyli
[20:12] <topyli> ohai duanedesign
[20:12] <duanedesign> 9
[20:12] <guntbert> topyli: you do that from the u1 client - you have to log in there
[20:13] <duanedesign> it should ask you to add your computer when you launch Ubuntu One for the first time
[20:13] <duanedesign> if it does not you might have a token left over from a previous install?
[20:14] <topyli> it just says "disconnected" and asks nothing. leftovers from a previous install is quite possible
[20:14] <topyli> i've tried it before
[20:14] <duanedesign> Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[20:15] <duanedesign> hello topyli  and look for Ubuntu One Token
[20:15] <duanedesign> oops
[20:15] <topyli> let me find
[20:15] <topyli> duanedesign, yes there is a token. delete?
[20:16] <duanedesign> Right-click on the Ubuntu One token and select "Delete"
[20:16] <topyli> duanedesign, done. now start the client?
[20:16] <duanedesign> Go to https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/
[20:16] <topyli> ah
[20:16] <duanedesign>  Click on the checkbox next to your computer and select Remove selected computer
[20:17] <topyli> no machines, i have removed the entire account previously, just created a new one
[20:18] <duanedesign> ok
[20:18] <topyli> now start the client?
[20:18] <duanedesign> yes
[20:18] <duanedesign> are you on Lucid or Karmic?
[20:18] <topyli> lucid
[20:18] <duanedesign> kk
[20:19] <duanedesign> you should be prompted to add your computer when you run Ubuntu One
[20:19] <guntbert> how do I restart a crashed u1 client (preferably from CLI) ?
[20:19] <topyli> duanedesign, ok, now it does just that
[20:19] <topyli> thanks a lot duanedesign
[20:19] <duanedesign> are you on Lucid or Karmic guntbert
[20:20] <duanedesign> u1sdtool -q will quit the syncdaemon
[20:20] <topyli> grr but now it can't connect to the url on localhost. maybe it's because i'm using epiphany? :)
[20:21] <guntbert> duanedesign: this issue is on karmic - in lucid i got a "cannot connect to localhost ...)
[20:21] <duanedesign> topyli: i am not positive, but that might be it
[20:21] <duanedesign> let me see if i can find some info on that
[20:22] <guntbert> duanedesign: thx that worked to restart the client
[20:22] <topyli> duanedesign, indeed copy/pasting the url to firefox worked
[20:23] <duanedesign> topyli: i will make a note and see what i cant figure out about that.
[20:24] <topyli> thanks. not a big issue, as long as the default apps work i guess :)
[20:24] <duanedesign> I am sure the devs are aware, but just to make sure i will mention it
[20:48] <guntbert> duanedesign: one more lucid question (my system connected fine now): should the "cloud" icon still be in the notification area?
[21:47] <duanedesign> guntbert: hello
[21:47] <duanedesign> in Lucid the applet has been replaced by the Ubuntu One Preferences Panel
[21:48] <duanedesign> Me Menu > Ubuntu oNe or System > Preferences > ubuntu oNe
[21:49] <guntbert> duanedesign: thx - that gives much more info - I only wondered about the missing notification
[21:57] <rickspencer3> hi
[21:58] <rickspencer3> anyone know how I can delete a value from a record in desktopcouch?
[21:59] <rickspencer3> like if I have a record {"record_type":x,"_id",y:"_rev":z,"foo":"bar"}
[21:59] <rickspencer3> and I want to delete the foo key and value from it?
[22:00] <rickspencer3> currently, I think I might need to create a new record with just the values I want to keep, but I'll lose the _rev, I think
[22:01] <elehack> rickspencer3, yes, that is what you need to do, I believe, and it constitutes a new revision so _rev should change anyway.
[22:01] <rickspencer3> elehack, ok
[22:01] <rickspencer3> so I throw away _rev, but keep the _id?
[22:01] <elehack> i'm not sure on the details.
[22:01] <rickspencer3> ok
[22:01] <rickspencer3> I'll hack at it a bit
[22:01] <rickspencer3> thanks elehack, much appreciated