[16:02] <jordanl> does ubuntustudio 10.04 have a beta dailybuild?
[16:02] <jordanl> if so, what is the url?
[16:03] <rlameiro> i think it has
[16:03] <rlameiro> let me check it out
[16:04] <jordanl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/
[16:04] <jordanl> i found this
[16:04] <jordanl> but the files don't have ubuntustudio in the name
[16:05] <rlameiro> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/
[16:05] <rlameiro> jordanl: dont need to have
[16:05] <rlameiro> look at the size of the iso
[16:05] <rlameiro> its a dvd
[16:05] <jordanl> thanks
[16:05] <jordanl> that's the one i'm downloading
[16:05] <jordanl> :)
[16:06] <rlameiro> ok
[16:06] <rlameiro> find bugs and submit them :D
[16:06] <jordanl> i might have found one
[16:06] <jordanl> but i'm trying the latest build to see if it's fixed first
[16:06] <rlameiro> on the install?
[16:06] <jordanl> i couldn't boot after a fresh install on beta 2
[16:07] <rlameiro> hummm
[16:07] <rlameiro> ok
[16:07] <jordanl> it dropped me into a busybox
[16:07] <rlameiro> what was the error?
[16:07] <rlameiro> something about the mount or the disks?
[16:07] <jordanl> "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<some uuid> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[16:07] <rlameiro> strange
[16:07] <rlameiro> try again
[16:08] <jordanl> i booted into rescue mode
[16:08] <jordanl> the uuid matched the output of "blkid"
[16:08] <rlameiro> and if dont work we go from there
[16:08] <jordanl> and it matched /etc/fstab too
[16:09] <rlameiro> blkid isnt it some kind of smart card thing?
[16:09] <jordanl> i'm using software raid if that makes a difference
[16:09] <rlameiro> ahhhh
[16:09] <rlameiro> ok
[16:09] <jordanl> no
[16:09] <rlameiro> i never used raid
[16:09] <jordanl> blkid is what ubuntu uses to generate unique IDs for disk devices
[16:09] <jordanl> so that the dev names are static
[16:10] <jordanl> that way, if you change your disk configuration by replugging cables, the names don't change
[16:10] <rlameiro> yea
[16:10] <rlameiro> the uid
[16:20] <jordanl> is it possible to do a network install with this?
[16:20] <holstein> hmmm
[16:20] <jordanl> i just followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Basic:%20Hands-On%20Interactive%20Network%20Server%20Edition%20Install
[16:20] <holstein> you could do a lucid netinstall
[16:21] <holstein> and choose to add whatever you want to it
[16:21] <holstein> from the repos
[16:21] <jordanl> and i got a failure at the "Select and install software" step
[16:21] <holstein> OH
[16:21] <holstein> from the daily live?
[16:21] <jordanl> yes
[16:21] <jordanl> i saved the debug logs too and found this in the syslog
[16:21] <holstein> OR daily build rather
[16:21] <holstein> not live...
[16:21] <holstein> hmmm
[16:21] <holstein> i saw that before
[16:22] <holstein> could be a bug
[16:22] <jordanl> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/200000/
[16:23] <rlameiro> jordanl: are you trying it on a vm?
[16:25] <jordanl> no
[16:25] <jordanl> native install using the netinstall instructions that i pasted above
[16:26] <rlameiro> maybe you should use the beta releases and then update
[16:26] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:26]  * holstein looking for the lucid minimal CD
[16:26] <jordanl> i was having trouble with the beta2 for lucid
[16:26] <jordanl> i couldn't boot for the first time
[16:26] <jordanl> that's why i'm trying the latest build
[16:29] <jordanl> i notice that, in these netinstall instructions, it has you set up a webserver w/ apache for serving the distro to the client machine
[16:29] <jordanl> but i don't see anything in the apache access log
[16:29] <jordanl> nothing in error either
[16:30] <rlameiro> but you should be abble to do a net install from the repos also
[16:31] <jordanl> is there anything i should check while in the installer main menu?
[16:31] <jordanl> i could drop into a shell from here
[16:41] <holstein> live interview coming up
[16:41] <holstein> http://207.81.93.133:8011/stream.ogg
[16:41] <holstein> with ScottL and stochastic
[18:10]  * _guitarman_ is performing a dirty upgrade from vanilla ubuntu lucid lynx beta to ubuntustudio... i already had some of the audio apps installed so it should be interesting.  i will notate any findings
[19:30] <sobukus> _guitarman_: be prepared for trouble
[19:30] <sobukus> _guitarman_: I learned that the studio kernel is apparently not very compatible to the base ubuntu system
[19:31] <sobukus> going from 2.6.32 to 2.6.31 might be part of it
[19:31] <sobukus> I am trying to build 2.6.33.2-rt13 now
[19:31]  * sobukus is struggling to get it ubuntu-compatible... with initrd and such
[19:51] <edakiri> is there any other music player that lets you assign ratings, besides amarok?
[19:56] <holstein> hello edakiri
[19:56] <holstein> i that personal ratings?
[19:56] <holstein> for playback purposes
[19:57] <holstein> like random playlists and whatnot?
[19:58] <holstein> that might be a more appropriate question for a loco channel
[19:58] <edakiri> holstein: yes, personal ratings.
[19:58] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[19:59] <holstein> mostly we worry about getting audio into the computer in here ;)
[19:59] <holstein> hmm
[20:00] <holstein> edakiri: banshee?
[20:00] <edakiri> I will look at banshee
[20:00]  * holstein uses VLC mostly
[20:01] <holstein> edakiri: also http://getsongbird.com/
[20:02] <edakiri> I usually like VLC with Jack
[20:02] <holstein> its always reminded me too much of itunes though
[20:02] <holstein> songbird
[20:03] <edakiri> except when VLC doesn't play video fast enough.  then it must be mplayer
[20:03] <holstein> http://www.sourcetrunk.com/
[20:04] <holstein> thats a cool podcast i found
[20:04] <holstein> all kinds of opensource software reviews
[20:04] <holstein> not a very regular release schedule
[20:04] <holstein> but lots of cool reviews
[20:04] <edakiri> thanks for the tips.  will check them out.
[20:07]  * sobukus got told just today by someone that sondbird's cutting the linux version
[20:07] <sobukus> orwas it a similiary-named player?
[20:07] <holstein> OH yeah
[20:07] <holstein> interesting
[20:07] <sobukus> Anyhow, I'm happy that there is totem as default that just plays a file when a user clicks on it... no database cruft.
[20:07] <holstein> i didnt even look
[20:08] <holstein> hmm
[20:08] <holstein> its still on the site
[20:08] <holstein> The Songbird QA team tests Songbird on Ubuntu 8.10 32-bit.
[20:08] <sobukus> I wonder if there is a fix possible for audacity crashing with jackd active (and alsa sound routed via jack)
[20:08] <sobukus> but, well, the issue seems to be known...
[20:09] <holstein> sobukus: why are you using audacity?
[20:09] <holstein> not to dog on it
[20:09] <holstein> i like it
[20:09] <sobukus> I wanted to do some editing on a region and re-import it to ardour
[20:09] <holstein> i just consider it a 'gateway-drug' to ardour
[20:09] <holstein> OH
[20:09] <holstein> ok
[20:09] <sobukus> but in the end, I put it on a separate track and applied a filter
[20:09] <sobukus> plugin
[20:10] <sobukus> Now I hope the new kerner, besides fixing latency, fixes the instability I have with the onboard radeon
[20:10]  * holstein crosses fingers
[20:10] <sobukus> suddenly my screen goes black with ubuntu stock kernel
[20:10] <sobukus> several times today
[20:10] <holstein> OH
[20:10] <holstein> i had that with my EEE
[20:10] <holstein> for a few weeks
[20:10] <sobukus> the box is still alive, just X seems to be crashed
[20:11] <holstein> yup
[20:11] <sobukus> no trace in logs
[20:11] <holstein> same deal
[20:11] <holstein> no freeze
[20:11] <holstein> just no X
[20:11] <sobukus> just some noise about invalid monitor on DVI output
[20:11] <sobukus> holstein: well, not just no X... no console, neither
[20:11] <holstein> OH yeah
[20:11] <sobukus> I suspect the radeon driver crashed
[20:11] <sobukus> taking with it the kernel console, too... now with KMS fun
[20:11] <holstein> i couldnt get ctrl-at anything too
[20:12] <holstein> alt*
[20:12] <sobukus> oh, and could it be that ubuntu deactivated the sysrq key for reboot
[20:12] <sobukus> REISU seems to work (disk clatters), but B does nothing
[20:12] <holstein> possible
[20:12] <sobukus> hitting the power button twice triggers shutdown, though
[20:12] <sobukus> so ACPI works:-/
[20:12] <holstein> yup
[20:13] <holstein> i could get out that way too
[20:13] <holstein> power button alt-s or alt-r
[20:13] <sobukus> hooray ... dpkg created an initrd for my kernel...
[20:13] <sobukus> now to see if it works...
[20:19]  * sobukus rebooted
[20:20] <_guitarman_> sobukus: would i need to add the ppa for the rt kernel that ScottL talked about or is the rt kernel in regular ubuntu going to drop in in a bit
[20:20] <sobukus> OK, that went fine...
[20:20] <sobukus> uname -a
[20:20] <sobukus> Linux blechtrommel 2.6.33.2-rt13-thorubuntu #8 SMP PREEMPT RT Sat Apr 10 20:59:12 CEST 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:20] <sobukus> Now I just can wait if the radeon crashes with my kernel, too
[20:21] <sobukus> _guitarman_: not sure I know what you are talking about
[20:21]  * sobukus didn't read much mail today, like ubuntustudio-users
[20:22] <sobukus> I fetched vanilla sources plus rt patch ... and built a .deb using make-kpkg
[20:22]  * sobukus off now ... heading home
[20:24] <holstein> sobukus: laterz