| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| rofl0r | i need help, my X doesnt start any more | 03:02 |
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| rofl0r | i get a background screen and mouse cursor, but not the login dialog | 03:02 |
| rofl0r | the xorg.log doesnt provide any clues | 03:03 |
| rofl0r | can i somehow disable automatic X start | 03:03 |
| rofl0r | so that i could login to TTY7 in the console | 03:03 |
| rofl0r | and then start x | 03:03 |
| rofl0r | i tried removing the xorg package but that doesnt help | 03:04 |
| psycho_oreos | sounds like you explicity implied starting xorg, and not by gdm/kdm | 03:09 |
| rofl0r | since the login dialog is not coming i guess the problem is coming from there | 03:11 |
| rofl0r | so it may work if i login on tty7 first, and then launch X manually | 03:12 |
| psycho_oreos | and I think the last time I did this, startx won't invoke starting xfce | 03:12 |
| rofl0r | so what would you propose ? | 03:12 |
| psycho_oreos | why don't you simply get gdm? | 03:12 |
| rofl0r | aint that installed by default ? | 03:13 |
| psycho_oreos | its supposed to be | 03:13 |
| psycho_oreos | which version is this? | 03:13 |
| rofl0r | xubuntu 9.10 | 03:13 |
| psycho_oreos | clean install? | 03:13 |
| rofl0r | pretty... i used it like just 2 weeks | 03:14 |
| psycho_oreos | and all of the sudden you lost gdm? | 03:14 |
| rofl0r | well, my pc became really slow today, swapping around all the time so i rebooted | 03:14 |
| rofl0r | it was up since more than a week | 03:15 |
| psycho_oreos | though I'm sure that wouldn't have any influence over losing gdm, unless you messed with stuff like install/uninstalling various stuff | 03:15 |
| rofl0r | and now the login dialog is missing, instead i can only move the cursor on an empty screen | 03:15 |
| rofl0r | well i installed some dev libraries | 03:16 |
| psycho_oreos | what happens if you invoke startxfce? | 03:16 |
| rofl0r | Server is already active for display 0 | 03:16 |
| rofl0r | when i pkill -9 Xorg, it will immediately start X again | 03:17 |
| psycho_oreos | that's caused by init reloading | 03:17 |
| rofl0r | how could i disable that ? | 03:17 |
| psycho_oreos | I only know of a nasty hack, change the runlevel | 03:18 |
| rofl0r | i tried entering "runlevel 3", but i got: command not found | 03:18 |
| psycho_oreos | no its init 3 | 03:19 |
| rofl0r | ah, ok | 03:19 |
| rofl0r | i did it, but the screen is still there on tty7 | 03:20 |
| psycho_oreos | try init 4 | 03:20 |
| rofl_ | init 4 killed my keyboard | 03:25 |
| rofl_ | surfing with links...yeehaw | 03:26 |
| opm595 | Howdy! Just completed a fresh install of 9.10 on an old spare pc I had lying about. All's well but can only get my panels to load from a terminal (ie: sudo xfce4-panel), to which they die once I exit the console. Anyone no how I can sort this? | 05:29 |
| psycho_oreos | opm595, you could add an applet called verve command line and run the same command there | 05:46 |
| psycho_oreos | opm595, did you get my last message? | 05:54 |
| opm595 | Yep, thanx psycho_oreos. All good | 05:54 |
| psycho_oreos | opm595, no worries | 05:55 |
| opm595 | Just ran with it saved my seesion and sudo reboot. Got my pannels - Cheers! | 05:55 |
| psycho_oreos | weird how you don't have panels at the beginning but oh well | 05:56 |
| opm595 | Not sure what happened. I only just installed on this system 2 days ago from an Alt CD, so maybe I opted the panels out or something when I installed. Anyway, all cool now and thanx for your input. | 06:01 |
| psycho_oreos | :) | 06:02 |
| Balsaq | good morning Xubuntu. | 07:05 |
| PrebenR | how do I set up which programs are default programs? I mean thunar for filemanagement, claws-mail for email etc... I'm getting tired of that firefox f.ex changes program if I install something new. It was using thunar, but now it uses easytag for some insane reason | 09:52 |
| PrebenR | is it .mailcap which one can rely on? | 09:52 |
| Sysi | some programs are in menu → settings → default applications | 09:53 |
| PrebenR | only web, email and terminal | 09:56 |
| PrebenR | /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to contain thunar at all. Any idea how I can get firefox to use it. Preferably by not messing in about:config | 09:57 |
| jarnos | Lucid asks me to write down or print the disk encryption password, but the "run this action now" function does not work. Where is the encrypted password? | 13:08 |
| bazhang | !lucid | 13:08 |
| ubottu | Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule | 13:08 |
| jarnos | BTW, I had the exactly same problem in Jaunty, IIRC. | 13:13 |
| TheSheep | I think it also tells you how you can get it later, and you can use that command | 13:21 |
| opm595 | Hey, here's a trival, and somewhat un-shaded technical question for the channel: The Xfce logo; Rat or Mouse? | 13:39 |
| psycho_oreos | does it really matter? | 13:49 |
| TheSheep | mouse | 13:51 |
| bazhang | ferret | 13:52 |
| opm595 | Does it matter? No, not really. Although having one of those impartial discussions with a friend of mine (sitting right next to me), where two conflicting views are via a monetary chalenge. | 14:02 |
| opm595 | Ferret? Crickey - that'll throw everything out :) | 14:02 |
| philip_ | is this the help channel? Or am I far off? :s | 15:36 |
| Sysi | for xubuntu, yes | 15:36 |
| philip_ | kk, is there any rouls, how you ask your questions or can I just speak free right out here? btw I'm knew too both linux and IRC :-) | 15:37 |
| Sysi | just ask pretty much | 15:38 |
| Sysi | !guidelines | 15:38 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 15:38 |
| philip_ | ok thx | 15:40 |
| philip_ | I installed xubuntu yesterday, and I think it went well, but this morning when I logged on to my laptop the ''startmenu'' don't know what it's called in xubuntu were missing. How do I get it back? | 15:42 |
| TheSheep | !panels | 15:44 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 15:44 |
| Sysi | (that's TOO common problem, almost everyone see it) | 15:45 |
| philip_ | thx :-) | 15:45 |
| dbdii407 | Where are the gtk themes found on the system? | 16:53 |
| knome | dbdii407, /usr/share/themes, but if you want to add your own, add them in ~/.themes | 16:53 |
| dbdii407 | Well, I don't have xUbuntu. I need my friend to tar the ones that xUbuntu comes with | 16:54 |
| dbdii407 | So... yea. | 16:54 |
| dbdii407 | I use Arch. :x | 16:54 |
| knome | dbdii407, you could see the package xubuntu-artwork and extract the themes | 16:54 |
| knome | ...iirc the package name | 16:55 |
| dbdii407 | [dbdii407@myhost Desktop]$ pacman -Ss xubuntu-artwork | 16:55 |
| dbdii407 | [dbdii407@myhost Desktop]$ | 16:55 |
| knome | btw, albatross is the default theme if you're wondering, and that's available as non-ubuntu package as well | 16:56 |
| knome | dbdii407, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xubuntu-artwork | 16:57 |
| knome | dbdii407, you can download the package directly from the right panel | 16:57 |
| dbdii407 | You do know I don't use xUbuntu right? | 16:58 |
| Sysi | http://shimmerproject.org/projects/albatross/ that and xfce-default-themes or something | 16:59 |
| knome | dbdii407, YES. please load the website and see the right panel, where you have a .tar.gz download for any distribution. | 17:00 |
| dbdii407 | knome, Okay then, So what about the icons? | 17:05 |
| knome | dbdii407, the icon set is elementary, and its xubuntu-modified version is also in the package. | 17:06 |
| dbdii407 | knome, I'm still unsure on how to recieve these files and where to place them | 17:12 |
| knome | dbdii407, i don't know where you have to put them in arch. you'll have to ask that in #arch or something. to download, load the url i pasted you and click the "xubuntu-artwork_0.38.tar.gz" text in the right. | 17:14 |
| dbdii407 | Well, I put it in the same folder with the other themes, activated it, and nothing changed | 17:20 |
| dbdii407 | :x | 17:20 |
| knome | this is not an arch support channel. | 17:23 |
| dbdii407 | Yes I know this knome. I'm just saying what happened. Didn't want to see a responce | 17:23 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | Hello guys! :-) | 17:53 |
| slow-motion | hi | 20:45 |
| === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam | ||
| Benkinooby | hi, i am googling for some time now, but i cant find out how to change my default file manager. i want dolphin to be superior voer thunar.in everything | 23:12 |
| Benkinooby | anyone? | 23:19 |
| mertle | because everytime you opendolphin in xfce the kde libs would have to be loaded it would slow thee system down considerably and that kind of defeats the purpose of using a light dm in the first place | 23:19 |
| vinnl | That doesn't mean you shouldn't be free to choose that | 23:20 |
| mertle | so it's not something a lot of folk would have done... | 23:20 |
| vinnl | I just don't know how to :) | 23:20 |
| mertle | of course vinnl | 23:20 |
| mertle | I'm looking in .config atm | 23:20 |
| vinnl | It kind of bugs me as well, I wish I'd be able to use Thunar under GNOME but I can't :( | 23:21 |
| vinnl | *don't know how to | 23:21 |
| Benkinooby | vinni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager | 23:24 |
| Benkinooby | vinnl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager this is a howto to make thunar the default file manager. in the end it is just a script. maybe there is a better method, but this seems to be quite good. it also allows you to go back to your former FM. | 23:25 |
| vinnl | Benkinooby, ah great, thanks :) | 23:26 |
| Benkinooby | mertle: hi... again ;) i saw may webistes where people asked the same question like i do ..iwthout luck.. i start missing the configurability of kde again :( (kde has a own settings-window for choosing the preferred fm) | 23:27 |
| Benkinooby | vinnl: np... found it on my serach for making dolphin the default fm in xfce ;) | 23:27 |
| vinnl | Haha | 23:27 |
| mertle | Benkinooby: in the settings manager - prefferred apps can you change the default file manager? | 23:27 |
| Benkinooby | mertle: this is only for browsing and mail clients and terminals.... nothing about fm.... i allrdy checked it | 23:28 |
| mertle | k | 23:28 |
| vinnl | Perhaps there's an xfconf preference? | 23:29 |
| mertle | I'm sure there is an EXPORT command for it | 23:29 |
| mertle | xfconf sounds like the ticket | 23:29 |
| hasenj | hi | 23:32 |
| hasenj | anyone here? | 23:33 |
| mertle | hello hasenj :) | 23:33 |
| hasenj | hey mertle :) | 23:33 |
| mertle | Benkinooby: does man xfconf give a clue? | 23:34 |
| hasenj | I upgraded yesterday to lucid beta 2 (through the update-manager -d) | 23:34 |
| * vinnl sees no clues in defined xfconf settings | 23:34 | |
| hasenj | and I got a few issues | 23:34 |
| vinnl | The Xfce wiki might help out | 23:35 |
| hasenj | I have two xfce sessions now, one is called xfce, the other is called xubuntu | 23:35 |
| hasenj | xubuntu doesn't have internet | 23:35 |
| Benkinooby | i got something | 23:35 |
| hasenj | there's no network manager | 23:35 |
| Benkinooby | seems this is the best solution... just set the link of thunar to my preferd fm | 23:35 |
| mertle | google doesn't help - I like thunar and I guess most others do to | 23:35 |
| hasenj | the session named "xfce" is weird in a lot of ways | 23:36 |
| hasenj | yesterday it has issues with some panel plugins | 23:36 |
| mertle | hasenj: what does ifconfig in the terminal return in the xubuntu session? | 23:36 |
| hasenj | hmm | 23:37 |
| hasenj | didn't try that | 23:37 |
| hasenj | but I tried sudo NetworkManager | 23:37 |
| hasenj | it said it's already running | 23:37 |
| hasenj | so I tried to pkill it | 23:37 |
| mertle | hasenj: if it's running things should be set up in some way | 23:38 |
| hasenj | well, I'm logged in from gnome now | 23:38 |
| hasenj | so I have to logout and back to xubuntu | 23:38 |
| mertle | hasenj: k | 23:38 |
| hasenj | anything I should be looking for in the ifconfig? | 23:38 |
| mertle | hasenj: it's ethernet? - lines about eth0 then | 23:39 |
| hasenj | it's wireless | 23:39 |
| hasenj | I'm not sure if that's the same as ethernet :) | 23:39 |
| hasenj | but I mean, what values should I be looking for? | 23:41 |
| hasenj | because, u know, I'm not gonna have internet for a while | 23:41 |
| mertle | I know nothing about wireless hasenj - I don't use it - this might give a clue | 23:42 |
| mertle | !wifi | 23:42 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 23:42 |
| hasenj | hm | 23:55 |
| hasenj | it's weird | 23:55 |
| hasenj | all I had to do was launch `nm-applet` | 23:55 |
| mertle | hasenj: it's all good? yah! | 23:55 |
| hasenj | yea I'm on xfce | 23:56 |
| hasenj | the other wierd (related) thing that happened after the upgrade | 23:56 |
| hasenj | the autostartup list shrank so much | 23:56 |
| hasenj | in the "session and startup" dialoge | 23:57 |
| hasenj | you know where the list comes from (e.g. which config file) | 23:57 |
| hasenj | or how I can find out? | 23:57 |
| mertle | hasenj: you're free to add to that - seems stange it shrunk tho - is it lucid you're using? | 23:57 |
| hasenj | yea like I said, I upgraded to lucid (beta 2, I assume) yesterday | 23:58 |
| hasenj | thru update-manager -d | 23:58 |
| hasenj | yea I added to it | 23:59 |
| hasenj | but I want to compare it with my old list | 23:59 |
| hasenj | e.g. if they're in text files that are tied to the session | 23:59 |
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