=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:02] i need help, my X doesnt start any more [03:02] i get a background screen and mouse cursor, but not the login dialog [03:03] the xorg.log doesnt provide any clues [03:03] can i somehow disable automatic X start [03:03] so that i could login to TTY7 in the console [03:03] and then start x [03:04] i tried removing the xorg package but that doesnt help [03:09] sounds like you explicity implied starting xorg, and not by gdm/kdm [03:11] since the login dialog is not coming i guess the problem is coming from there [03:12] so it may work if i login on tty7 first, and then launch X manually [03:12] and I think the last time I did this, startx won't invoke starting xfce [03:12] so what would you propose ? [03:12] why don't you simply get gdm? [03:13] aint that installed by default ? [03:13] its supposed to be [03:13] which version is this? [03:13] xubuntu 9.10 [03:13] clean install? [03:14] pretty... i used it like just 2 weeks [03:14] and all of the sudden you lost gdm? [03:14] well, my pc became really slow today, swapping around all the time so i rebooted [03:15] it was up since more than a week [03:15] though I'm sure that wouldn't have any influence over losing gdm, unless you messed with stuff like install/uninstalling various stuff [03:15] and now the login dialog is missing, instead i can only move the cursor on an empty screen [03:16] well i installed some dev libraries [03:16] what happens if you invoke startxfce? [03:16] Server is already active for display 0 [03:17] when i pkill -9 Xorg, it will immediately start X again [03:17] that's caused by init reloading [03:17] how could i disable that ? [03:18] I only know of a nasty hack, change the runlevel [03:18] i tried entering "runlevel 3", but i got: command not found [03:19] no its init 3 [03:19] ah, ok [03:20] i did it, but the screen is still there on tty7 [03:20] try init 4 [03:25] init 4 killed my keyboard [03:26] surfing with links...yeehaw [05:29] Howdy! Just completed a fresh install of 9.10 on an old spare pc I had lying about. All's well but can only get my panels to load from a terminal (ie: sudo xfce4-panel), to which they die once I exit the console. Anyone no how I can sort this? [05:46] opm595, you could add an applet called verve command line and run the same command there [05:54] opm595, did you get my last message? [05:54] Yep, thanx psycho_oreos. All good [05:55] opm595, no worries [05:55] Just ran with it saved my seesion and sudo reboot. Got my pannels - Cheers! [05:56] weird how you don't have panels at the beginning but oh well [06:01] Not sure what happened. I only just installed on this system 2 days ago from an Alt CD, so maybe I opted the panels out or something when I installed. Anyway, all cool now and thanx for your input. [06:02] :) [07:05] good morning Xubuntu. [09:52] how do I set up which programs are default programs? I mean thunar for filemanagement, claws-mail for email etc... I'm getting tired of that firefox f.ex changes program if I install something new. It was using thunar, but now it uses easytag for some insane reason [09:52] is it .mailcap which one can rely on? [09:53] some programs are in menu → settings → default applications [09:56] only web, email and terminal [09:57] /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to contain thunar at all. Any idea how I can get firefox to use it. Preferably by not messing in about:config [13:08] Lucid asks me to write down or print the disk encryption password, but the "run this action now" function does not work. Where is the encrypted password? [13:08] !lucid [13:08] Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [13:13] BTW, I had the exactly same problem in Jaunty, IIRC. [13:21] I think it also tells you how you can get it later, and you can use that command [13:39] Hey, here's a trival, and somewhat un-shaded technical question for the channel: The Xfce logo; Rat or Mouse? [13:49] does it really matter? [13:51] mouse [13:52] ferret [14:02] Does it matter? No, not really. Although having one of those impartial discussions with a friend of mine (sitting right next to me), where two conflicting views are via a monetary chalenge. [14:02] Ferret? Crickey - that'll throw everything out :) [15:36] is this the help channel? Or am I far off? :s [15:36] for xubuntu, yes [15:37] kk, is there any rouls, how you ask your questions or can I just speak free right out here? btw I'm knew too both linux and IRC :-) [15:38] just ask pretty much [15:38] !guidelines [15:38] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [15:40] ok thx [15:42] I installed xubuntu yesterday, and I think it went well, but this morning when I logged on to my laptop the ''startmenu'' don't know what it's called in xubuntu were missing. How do I get it back? [15:44] !panels [15:44] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [15:45] (that's TOO common problem, almost everyone see it) [15:45] thx :-) [16:53] Where are the gtk themes found on the system? [16:53] dbdii407, /usr/share/themes, but if you want to add your own, add them in ~/.themes [16:54] Well, I don't have xUbuntu. I need my friend to tar the ones that xUbuntu comes with [16:54] So... yea. [16:54] I use Arch. :x [16:54] dbdii407, you could see the package xubuntu-artwork and extract the themes [16:55] ...iirc the package name [16:55] [dbdii407@myhost Desktop]$ pacman -Ss xubuntu-artwork [16:55] [dbdii407@myhost Desktop]$ [16:56] btw, albatross is the default theme if you're wondering, and that's available as non-ubuntu package as well [16:57] dbdii407, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xubuntu-artwork [16:57] dbdii407, you can download the package directly from the right panel [16:58] You do know I don't use xUbuntu right? [16:59] http://shimmerproject.org/projects/albatross/ that and xfce-default-themes or something [17:00] dbdii407, YES. please load the website and see the right panel, where you have a .tar.gz download for any distribution. [17:05] knome, Okay then, So what about the icons? [17:06] dbdii407, the icon set is elementary, and its xubuntu-modified version is also in the package. [17:12] knome, I'm still unsure on how to recieve these files and where to place them [17:14] dbdii407, i don't know where you have to put them in arch. you'll have to ask that in #arch or something. to download, load the url i pasted you and click the "xubuntu-artwork_0.38.tar.gz" text in the right. [17:20] Well, I put it in the same folder with the other themes, activated it, and nothing changed [17:20] :x [17:23] this is not an arch support channel. [17:23] Yes I know this knome. I'm just saying what happened. Didn't want to see a responce [17:53] Hello guys! :-) [20:45] hi === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [23:12] hi, i am googling for some time now, but i cant find out how to change my default file manager. i want dolphin to be superior voer thunar.in everything [23:19] anyone? [23:19] because everytime you opendolphin in xfce the kde libs would have to be loaded it would slow thee system down considerably and that kind of defeats the purpose of using a light dm in the first place [23:20] That doesn't mean you shouldn't be free to choose that [23:20] so it's not something a lot of folk would have done... [23:20] I just don't know how to :) [23:20] of course vinnl [23:20] I'm looking in .config atm [23:21] It kind of bugs me as well, I wish I'd be able to use Thunar under GNOME but I can't :( [23:21] *don't know how to [23:24] vinni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager [23:25] vinnl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager this is a howto to make thunar the default file manager. in the end it is just a script. maybe there is a better method, but this seems to be quite good. it also allows you to go back to your former FM. [23:26] Benkinooby, ah great, thanks :) [23:27] mertle: hi... again ;) i saw may webistes where people asked the same question like i do ..iwthout luck.. i start missing the configurability of kde again :( (kde has a own settings-window for choosing the preferred fm) [23:27] vinnl: np... found it on my serach for making dolphin the default fm in xfce ;) [23:27] Haha [23:27] Benkinooby: in the settings manager - prefferred apps can you change the default file manager? [23:28] mertle: this is only for browsing and mail clients and terminals.... nothing about fm.... i allrdy checked it [23:28] k [23:29] Perhaps there's an xfconf preference? [23:29] I'm sure there is an EXPORT command for it [23:29] xfconf sounds like the ticket [23:32] hi [23:33] anyone here? [23:33] hello hasenj :) [23:33] hey mertle :) [23:34] Benkinooby: does man xfconf give a clue? [23:34] I upgraded yesterday to lucid beta 2 (through the update-manager -d) [23:34] * vinnl sees no clues in defined xfconf settings [23:34] and I got a few issues [23:35] The Xfce wiki might help out [23:35] I have two xfce sessions now, one is called xfce, the other is called xubuntu [23:35] xubuntu doesn't have internet [23:35] i got something [23:35] there's no network manager [23:35] seems this is the best solution... just set the link of thunar to my preferd fm [23:35] google doesn't help - I like thunar and I guess most others do to [23:36] the session named "xfce" is weird in a lot of ways [23:36] yesterday it has issues with some panel plugins [23:36] hasenj: what does ifconfig in the terminal return in the xubuntu session? [23:37] hmm [23:37] didn't try that [23:37] but I tried sudo NetworkManager [23:37] it said it's already running [23:37] so I tried to pkill it [23:38] hasenj: if it's running things should be set up in some way [23:38] well, I'm logged in from gnome now [23:38] so I have to logout and back to xubuntu [23:38] hasenj: k [23:38] anything I should be looking for in the ifconfig? [23:39] hasenj: it's ethernet? - lines about eth0 then [23:39] it's wireless [23:39] I'm not sure if that's the same as ethernet :) [23:41] but I mean, what values should I be looking for? [23:41] because, u know, I'm not gonna have internet for a while [23:42] I know nothing about wireless hasenj - I don't use it - this might give a clue [23:42] !wifi [23:42] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [23:55] hm [23:55] it's weird [23:55] all I had to do was launch `nm-applet` [23:55] hasenj: it's all good? yah! [23:56] yea I'm on xfce [23:56] the other wierd (related) thing that happened after the upgrade [23:56] the autostartup list shrank so much [23:57] in the "session and startup" dialoge [23:57] you know where the list comes from (e.g. which config file) [23:57] or how I can find out? [23:57] hasenj: you're free to add to that - seems stange it shrunk tho - is it lucid you're using? [23:58] yea like I said, I upgraded to lucid (beta 2, I assume) yesterday [23:58] thru update-manager -d [23:59] yea I added to it [23:59] but I want to compare it with my old list [23:59] e.g. if they're in text files that are tied to the session