[00:18] I'm thinking about helping test out beta 2. Anyone experiencing any show stopper bugs? the system I'm going to upgrade would be annoying to break, but not catastrophic. [01:11] JontheEchidna: I think the difference was in the logo's K... [01:13] Tm_T: I had to strip the widgets out to get the size down. I geuss we can play with it and see what fits. [01:13] Thanks for testing. [01:14] ScottK: np, should I try something specifically or is it enough that "it works" ? [01:15] That's great news. I've no idea. [01:15] * ScottK doesn't know the last time we had a working powerpc live CD. [01:15] NCommander: ^^^ working powerpc live CD. [01:15] NICE! [01:16] ScottK: heh, glad I had more ram now, with 256 MiB livecd wouldn't work well [01:27] ryanakca: the one there before had the new K [01:28] Is showdesktop part of plasma-widgets-addons? [01:32] Tm_T: Do you still have your live session up? [01:32] ScottK: yes [01:32] JontheEchidna: Thanks. [01:34] JontheEchidna: Ah, OK [01:34] And what's the package for the microblog thing? [01:34] ScottK: addons as well [01:34] Ah. Cool [01:35] ScottK: yes [01:35] Tm_T: Could you install plasma-widgets-addons in your live session and give me a list of the packages it pulls in? [01:35] sure [01:36] I think we have enough room to add what we need to fix those errors, but I want to check. [01:39] ScottK: plasma-widgets-addons and plasma-dataengines-addons, 1,232 kB to download, 6,017 kB to be used [01:39] Tm_T: Thanks. [01:40] That should fit. [01:40] * ScottK fixes. [01:49] man, where's Riddell? [01:52] I know he was off work on Friday. [01:52] Beyond that, dunno. [01:55] bug 560411:( [01:55] Launchpad bug 560411 in pkg-kde-tools "Desktop translations not pulled for desktop-extragear-multimedia_k3b" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560411 [01:55] apachelogger: at the risk of your coronary health^ [02:53] Hi, I've got some problems with the nvidia driver and kubuntu beta. NVidia-Settings is not working an compositing cannot be activated. Is there a known bug about this? [02:57] ScottK: bug 545686 [02:57] Launchpad bug 545686 in kvpnc "[FFe] Please sync kvpnc 0.9.6-1 from Debian testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545686 [02:58] it fixes 4 bugs in LP [03:36] lex79: Already approved. [03:36] thanks [03:37] yw. [03:49] evening all [03:49] Heya imbrandon. [03:50] heya [03:50] late night, get to install the daily build a few times , lol [03:50] imbrandon: Did you see the call for testing on kubuntu-devel ml? [03:51] i so need a sysprep like tool for ubuntu/kubuntu [03:51] ScottK, yup, dl'ing that image now [03:51] i needed to install it on a few boxzen anyhow , so why not test right ? [03:51] Great. Absolutely. [03:51] brb gonna refill my coffee [03:53] back, sooooo how ya been ScottK , lookin busy [03:53] Yep. [03:53] :) [03:53] Release is looking pretty good, but more bugs to fix. [03:54] yea i noticed a few on the ML, maybe i can poke one or two this week, i have lots of free time i think ( i'm between having quit my job and opening my own store ) [03:55] thus loading kubuntu on a few boxes ( i'm offering ubuntu/kubuntu installed and supported on my refurb'd hardware ) [03:56] you know opening a retail shop is a PITA, lol [03:57] Yeah, it sure is. [03:57] * ScottK has two teenagers working in retail at the moment (not for me fortunately) and one of them is at a new store. [03:58] :) [03:59] i just hoping the linux option on the hardware will overtake the windows one' [03:59] less support headache imho [03:59] Got time to test a patch then? [04:00] right now its only about 20% ( linux ) and the rest opt for win32/64, but thats online only ( craigslist / ebay ) i'm hoping the retail part will give them a way to "touch it" [04:00] sure [04:00] imbrandon: It's attached to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222110 [04:00] KDE bug 222110 in kcm_randr "Revert the change in display not work" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:01] k will do as soon as this frist install finishes [04:01] is that against the latest ? [04:01] Yes. [04:01] k [04:01] should be about ~20 min or so [04:01] Actually I don't know for sure if debfx did the patch against our 4.4.2 or KDE Trunk. [04:01] Either way that code isn't touched much, it should apply fine. [04:01] Thanks. [04:01] no worries, i can figure that aprt, just makin sure it wasent a version or two back [04:02] part* [04:02] Nope. Patch was just done today. [04:02] k [04:02] That's one of the worst unfixed bugs I know of. [04:02] :) [04:02] It'll be good to get that in. [04:03] ohhh i got an actual laptop/tablet i can test that on too for a "real world test" [04:03] nice [04:03] one with the flippy screen thing [04:04] imbrandon: Are you doing anything with netbooks? [04:04] You know we've got a Kubuntu Netbook variant now? [04:05] only the dell mini 9's and the "7 in mini notebooks" from china ( unbranded 400mhz arm's ) [04:05] We have armel images that need testing .... [04:05] yea i seen it, on the dell's i've been going with full distro, the 7 inches would be awesom [04:05] if i could get netbook remix to qwork on em [04:06] ( only have 3 for testing atm untill i could get sometingh "solid" to work on em besides winCE 6 ) [04:06] Try netbook. The plasma netbook U/I is a lot smarter on small screens. [04:07] yea i was actualy looking for the arm port today, its kinda funky because it dont have a bios or efi of anykind that i can see [04:07] thus no acpi etc [04:07] kinda funky [04:07] but they are CHEAP so i bought a few and gonna give em a try [04:07] like $57 if i buy em in builk ( $75 each as one off's ) [04:07] Well we have it for i386 for the Dells too. [04:08] yea i put it on the dell's when it was still early, cant get ppl to order them that way, like i said hopefully the retail when they can "touch" them will make the sale easier [04:10] I've shown Kubuntu Netbook to some pretty hard core Windows fanbois and gotten "I want" as a response. [04:10] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/lucid-netbook-i386.iso [04:11] ScottK, here is the exact specs on the arm ones ( this is not my retail shop but it lists the specs ) [04:11] http://www.yallstore.com/new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-2gb-hd-black-p-39108.html [04:12] cool part is when i order 20 or more i can have the cases branded and colored too :) [04:12] Nice. [04:13] definately not a top of the line machine, but i can pump em out the door with linux for $100 they should sell well [04:14] those dells are sweet though, i'll have to give the net remix another shot on them [04:14] atm they ship with win7 starter, and thats ..... unfortunate imho [04:16] hrm, we really need a sysprep tool [04:17] maybe i'll scratch that itch later [04:17] brb , gonna finish that install and grab the patch [04:17] Great. [04:20] * ScottK was thinking to upload to his PPA for testing, but his fingers have typed dput ubuntu too many times. [04:20] Fortunately they are also fast with ctrl-c. [05:14] ScottK, other things takin a bit longer than i thought but i will get to that patch tonight ( brb gonna reboot ) === evilshadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer [08:21] in 9.10 there was a possibility to swith the notification system to a nice pop-up style http://jjesse.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/enabling-ayatana-notifications-in-kubuntu-9-10/ .. is this gonna come to lucid again ? === shadeslayer is now known as evilshadeslayer_ [09:38] ScottK: ping [09:39] that kcm_randr bug is tested , fixed , pushed to my ppa and the offical bzr branch for the package [09:39] me or someone else can upload it to the archive when ready, just wanset sure if there were more planed changes going into that package or not [09:40] ( probably not as late in the cycle as it is ) [09:42] ScottK: bzr is here lp:~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/ [09:42] I get this while compiling a source "./configure: line 3976: smr_WITH_BUILD_PATH: command not found" what to do? [10:17] Guys I am banned in kubuntu why is it so? [10:30] lex79: Happy Birthday! [11:14] * apachelogger throws up on bug 560411 [11:14] Launchpad bug 560411 in pkg-kde-tools "Desktop translations not pulled for desktop-extragear-multimedia_k3b" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560411 [11:17] OH [11:17] OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [11:18] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [11:18] madness [11:19] apachelogger: lol [11:21] is system settings supposed to be in the "Computer" menu? [11:21] imbrandon: oh hai o/ [11:22] debfx: yes [11:22] debfx: where else would it be? [11:23] apachelogger: in Applications->Settings [11:24] apachelogger: it's always in Applications->Settings but only sometimes in Computer [11:24] i've noticed that on both of my kubuntu installations [11:32] debfx: actually we never wanted it in settings [11:32] and latest kubuntu-default-settings takes care of getting rid of it from there once and for all [11:32] kubuntu: Harald Sitter * rapachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100411103226-pnzw1fy923322o7y kdebase-workspace/debian/changelog: releasing version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu9 [11:32] debfx: that somtiems in computer seems to be a bug though [11:33] apachelogger: the Computer menu sometimes looks like this: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7573/snapshot1qf.png [11:33] not the first time I heared that it is at times disappearing from the computer tab, no clue why [11:33] that seems to ba rather old vm anyway, judging from the menu pic [11:34] debfx: it is weird though, we inject the menu entries there via kickoffrc in kubuntu-default-setitngs which IIRC should be 100% equal to patching the source [11:34] maybe config reading fails or something [11:38] really strange, sometimes system settings is missing, sometimes kpackagekit and sometimes both [11:38] ohh [11:39] that either-or sounds more like a bug in the model [11:39] that jung get read all at once, so it can only have to do with the model or the ui itself [11:39] s/jung/junk ^^ [11:41] hrm, i might try to tackle bug# 19767 after some sleep today [11:41] maybe , lulz [11:45] kubuntu: Harald Sitter * rapachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100411104510-gea4mprpd42knqqn kde-l10n-common/debian/ (changelog rules): [11:45] kubuntu: * Comment debian/rules a bit more. [11:45] kubuntu: * Make sure extragear and playground desktop files are coming from trunk, [11:45] kubuntu: we need a more sensible approach to this though (LP: #560411) [11:45] Launchpad bug 560411 in pkg-kde-tools "Desktop translations not pulled for desktop-extragear-multimedia_k3b" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560411 [12:04] any idea what im doing wrong here : [12:04] http://pastebin.com/GbRpYCL6 [12:05] ubottu: bug 19767 [12:05] Launchpad bug 19767 in kdebase-runtime "Kde help search fails too quietly if htdig is not installed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19767 [12:05] imbrandon: I am not sure it is worth the time, KHC is broken by design and should be rewritten altogether [12:05] shadeslayer: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libgphoto2-2-dev (>= 2.4) libkipi7-dev libkexiv2-8-dev libkdcraw8-dev liblcms1-dev libtiff4-dev liblqr-1-0-dev libjasper-dev liblensfun-dev libmarble-dev libsqlite3-dev [12:06] you need them packaeges installed [12:06] yea but i'm thinking just to disable the search tab like on windows [12:06] cuz it effects 3 and 4 right ? [12:06] i think oh my [12:06] I'd remove it/hide it [12:06] yea [12:06] shadeslayer: oh, no, hold on [12:06] wouldnt debuild -S -sa only build the source? [12:07] apachelogger: i think youre right :P [12:07] ah [12:07] ^^^ [12:07] shadeslayer: yeah, install those packages [12:07] hehe [12:07] * apachelogger didnt see that debuild was invoked ^^ [12:07] shadeslayer: you rproblem is that a patch fails to apply [12:07] apachelogger: oh wait! [12:07] 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file utilities/imageeditor/canvas/colorcorrectiondlg.cpp.rej [12:07] dpkg-source: error: LC_ALL="C" LANG="C" patch -s -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -g0 -E -b -B .pc/10_kdesvn_r1064789_fix_editor_crash.diff/ gave error exit status 1 [12:07] dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b digikam-1.2.0 gave error exit status 2 [12:07] apachelogger: just read to line 55 [12:08] or at least that change cannot be reverted, wherever the change is coming from ^^ [12:08] if svn was any slower... [12:10] apachelogger: so the problem is the patch right? [12:10] apachelogger: btw digikam was not converted to source 3.0 format in the repo ;) [12:10] if debian did not convert then we shouldnt either [12:11] ohh.. ok [12:11] my guess is that 10_kdesvn_r1064789_fix_editor_crash.diff (since it originated in upstream SVN) is applied to the source, hence additional applying fails [12:12] this is also why quilt whines about reveserd patch... reversed patch in most cases == already applied patch [12:12] apachelogger: so i remove the patch right? [12:12] * apachelogger gets annoyed by rekonqs buggyness and switcht o konqueror with webkitkde [12:12] shadeslayer: you investigate if what I said is true ;) [12:12] and if it is you remove the patch [12:13] apachelogger: oh ok [12:13] apachelogger: which version of rekonq? [12:14] 0.4 [12:15] apachelogger: oh.. well im on git version and it works like a charm :) [12:15] apachelogger: btw red in kompare means deleted lines right: [12:15] earlier it ate my X [12:15] apachelogger: what! [12:16] shadeslayer: I dunno, I dont use kompare, but usually red means deleted, yes ;) [12:16] the lines are still there [12:18] apachelogger: the patch hasnt beed applied [12:20] *been [12:36] apachelogger: btw any ideas on what might be wrong? === shadeslayer is now known as evilshadeslayer [12:38] * apachelogger is picking fihgts again [12:39] evilshadeslayer: sure, if parts of the patch were applied, it would still fail to apply [12:39] you will have to look at hunk1 specifically [12:40] the first patch you mean... [12:40] evilshadeslayer: btw, you know that neversfelde has a digikam 1.2 package uploaded? [12:40] oh my.. [12:40] evilshadeslayer: no, hunk 1 of the patch [12:40] oh ok [12:40] the first part [12:40] apachelogger: where is the new version? [12:40] @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ [12:40] that marks a hunk [12:40] then comes the patch content [12:41] and then another linke like the one above might be, with different numbers, marking the second hunk [12:41] evilshadeslayer: backports PPA [12:41] evilshadeslayer: we didnt want to upload to lucid at this stage without making sure everyone is fine with that [12:41] ah ok :D [12:43] apachelogger: this was reported a few mins ago : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/560576 [12:43] Launchpad bug 560576 in digikam "New upstream version digikam 1.2.0" [Undecided,Fix released] [12:43] i just changed it to fix released :) [12:44] neversfelde: you should probably drop a news on kubuntu.org [12:45] markey: haha, that ccfinder tool is written in python, no wonder it only works on ubuntu lunix ;) [12:45] heh [12:45] apachelogger: btw is KDE plannig a new panel in 4.5 [12:45] ? [12:46] dont think so [12:46] if you a refering to the buzz on identi.ca as I understand it, they are just adding a default layout to the pnale [12:46] hmm.. i heard it on identi.ca .. [12:46] so when you add a panel it will come with default widgets instead of emptyness [12:46] apachelogger: ohhh... [12:47] that is how I understand it anyway ... one never knows what the plasma devs mean :P [12:47] they are like me when I start talking about maths ^^ [12:48] hehe [12:49] hm, which was the first Kubuntu release again? I only remember having built KDE on top of Ubuntu, but which was the first Kubuntu release? [12:49] Mamarok: i think it was 7.04 [12:49] i still have the CD's from that release :P [12:50] Mamarok: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/KubuntuKDE4 [12:50] evilshadeslayer: no, I think rather 6.06 [12:50] hehe... [12:50] Dapper Drake IIRC [12:50] but not so sure [12:50] Mamarok: hmm.. [12:50] idk :) [12:51] wrong again, it must have been Breezy [12:51] 5.10 [12:51] apachelogger: do you remember? [12:51] found it: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.04/ [12:52] 5 years of Kubuntu then :) [12:52] Mamarok: cool! [12:52] apparently I did build KDE on top of Warty for the first time, found a very old blog entry in my archives... [12:54] * evilshadeslayer checks for his results [12:54] for warty there were only "3rd party kde packges" with 5.04 kubutu came into existance [12:54] so officially I suppose its really 5 years already [12:54] thank god... its not out yet :D [12:54] * apachelogger feels old now [12:54] hehe [12:55] off to chakra! [12:55] not 5 years I think [12:55] i started with KDE 4.0 ... so im still shiny :D [12:55] well... a few scratches here and there... but shiny [12:55] Mamarok: if we had a marekting dept. we could use that fact for loads of things ^^ [12:55] but we dont have such a department :( [12:56] #kubuntu-mkt-dept :P [12:57] oh [12:57] kde-l10n is already at u [12:58] * apachelogger thinks it might be done soonish [12:58] \o/ [13:07] * apachelogger notes that no one patched kpk in karmic [13:08] * evilshadeslayer notes that he needs a bath [13:09] * apachelogger noticed when he came into the channel this morning :P [13:09] Successfully uploaded packages. [13:09] \o/ [13:12] incredibly how slow the austrian archive mirror is [13:12] * apachelogger switches to french one [13:20] oh cmon [13:20] include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk [13:21] why do you always do this to me -.- [13:30] apachelogger: heh.. i use the main repo... [13:30] those are also slow as hell [13:30] pretty fast here :P [13:30] wait until release day [13:30] you wont be able to update for 3 weeks [13:31] apachelogger: hehe.. well im on a 256 kbps connection so... [13:31] apachelogger: oh ill switch to the indian mirror before release day :D [13:33] * evilshadeslayer finds the closest large object and gives ubottu a slap with it [13:34] hehe.. just trying out a script in weechat :D [13:34] slapping only in private channels please [13:34] okies [13:34] this ought to stay child save I have been told [13:35] :D [13:36] gah!! LP doesnt want to increase my karma above 1499 :P [13:40] imbrandon: Thanks for testing. [13:40] debfx: Thanks again for the patch. Maybe you can get apachelogger to commit it in KDE svn.... [13:41] huh [13:41] what patch now? [13:42] The display control revert thing. [13:42] * apachelogger is always sponsoring stuff and then gets beaten up for it ^^ [13:42] The one you uploaded for imbrandon. [13:42] ScottK: oh, yeah, already on my todo [13:42] Should go both in Trunk and the 4.4 branch, AFAICT. [13:42] Great. [13:44] * apachelogger zsyncs iso [13:46] ScottK: am I right that kpk didnt throw those notifications about updates in karmic? [13:46] i.e. we patched it away? [13:48] * evilshadeslayer builds bespin from svn [13:48] gross [13:49] apachelogger: i just want to try it out :P [13:49] even grosser [13:49] oh [13:49] my patch is not working \o/ [13:52] oh [13:52] I think I know why [13:52] gross [13:52] too [13:54] "by the powers of quilt I command you refresh!" [13:55] apachelogger: the German and Swiss mirrors are pretty good ones [13:55] actually I think they are on the same server as the french mirror [13:55] IIRC they started some cooperation regarding servers of all kind [13:55] not sure if archives are affected [13:56] they have some seriously powerful stuff htough 6^ [13:56] *though ^^ [13:56] hm, I somehow doubt that, since I know the guys who do the Swiss mirror [13:56] oh, ok [13:57] http://www.ubuntu-eu.org/ [13:58] nah, these are not the package mirrors, but the website server [13:58] ok [13:58] eitherway the austrian mirror is not very attracting and the austrian loco isnt either [13:59] the Swiss Ubuntu mirror is at the ETH (Switch) [14:00] * apachelogger should move to zurich, workf or google and conduct his studies at the ETH zurich [14:00] apachelogger: that sounds like a plan :) [14:01] yeah, the only show stopper is that I would have to search a new flat [14:01] or study in Lausanne at the ETH, in French/English [14:01] that is something I possibly hate more than bugs [14:01] Mamarok: I'd rather not study in french ^^ [14:01] might be coutner producitve [14:02] * apachelogger thinks that it must be typo day again [14:02] or study in Fribourg (in German) and life at our place till you have found something [14:02] if you have no aversion against two cats [14:02] Mamarok: you understand this would mean that I will stay at your's until I leave for irland? :D [14:02] we got a cat here [14:03] a very annoying and gross one though [14:03] apachelogger: I have means to push you out of the door, don't worry [14:03] ours are annoying, especially the she-cat [14:03] she is very wordy [14:03] and fat [14:03] always complains there is not enough food, not enough cuddling [14:03] ^^ [14:04] I see you always give in, since the cat is fat ^^ [14:04] nah, she is born fat, I strugle to keep her in acceptable dimensions [14:04] hehe [14:04] kubotu: np [14:04] apachelogger is listening to "If I Had $1000000" by Barenaked Ladies [Rock Spectacle, 1996] [http://open.spotify.com/track/1btA9CwzPu12fWK1x1CEIW] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more [14:05] but markey might be the one fedding her behind my back [14:05] 1,000,000 $ that is like 10 EUR or something [14:05] you could get a floppy for that [14:05] Mamarok: hm, that indeed sounds possible [14:06] Mamarok: sometimes he has horrible response times, I always suspected he would be off cuddling with them cats [14:06] since she always goes to complain to him first, must be more effective than complaining to me [14:06] he sure does :) [14:06] apachelogger: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hard_drive [14:06] yay [14:06] my patch works [14:07] uhhh [14:07] this one is even better : http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Virus [14:07] ...male internet users download from the internet [14:08] as if one could download that anywhere else -.- [14:08] apachelogger: It throws them and they are really annoying. [14:09] BTW, if one accidentally cancels out the reboot required notification, it's gone and AFAICT stays gone. [14:09] ZFS: Zero File System. Suitable for applications needing to store zero or fewer gigabytes. [14:09] * apachelogger giggles [14:09] ScottK: there are two cancellations [14:09] This could be considered a security issue, since until you reboot, you aren't running the new kernel and aren't protected by any fixes. [14:09] one being for this time and one permanent [14:10] lattter can be unset via a module somewhere in systemsettings [14:10] apachelogger: Cancel the "Recent Notifications" thing and it's wiped out forever when you didn't even touch it. [14:10] ScottK: that would be former [14:10] Which is most highly not desired behavior. [14:10] Don't think so. [14:11] sure it is [14:11] * ScottK never saw it come back after that. [14:11] you cancelled all recent notification [14:11] ScottK: it will only come back once the reboot marker file was touched again [14:12] Right, which is a regression. [14:12] is it? [14:12] Before, persistent really meant persistent. [14:12] that you will have to discuss with upstream then [14:12] When we had the icon in the tray it was always there until you rebooted. [14:12] well [14:12] that is silly too [14:12] what I would like to have is that it reoccurs everytime dpkg gets executed [14:13] or even better yet, everytime the cache gets updated [14:13] because that makes the notification more nagging [14:13] I think before it was good. [14:13] and as you pointed out not rebooting is a potential security issue [14:13] Now it's both more anoying and less effective. [14:13] so you want that particular notification to be super annoying [14:13] I think you want it to be super persistent, not super annoying. [14:13] ScottK: well, we cant add the statusnotifier stuff at this point [14:14] presumably if they don't reboot right away, there's a reason. [14:14] too much a risk of breakage + it breaks UI freeze quite a bit [14:14] Sure. [14:14] + string freeze most likely [14:14] but I will see that statusnotifier lands in maverick ASAP [14:14] Why we had to emulate the single most annoying thing Ayatana has done for Ubuntu, I have no idea. [14:15] actually it is the kpk appraoch of doing things [14:15] I'd rather have had their notifications than this intermittent update notification stuff. [14:15] and someone claimed it is upstream's plan [14:15] Broken by design. [14:16] It both doesn't tell me I have updates when I do and then thinks to tell me I have them when I've already installed them. [14:16] while indeed that was not true at all, as I understand it, and what I want knh to do for maverick is drop a notification that is non-persistent AND show a statusnotifier [14:16] apachelogger: Please give an option to turn off the notification then. [14:17]