/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/11/#ubuntu-ops.txt

knome7msg VBB-VolleyballBa my size is A80. i hope you have a selection of bras for men as well.00:01
knome"oops"00:01
Tm_Thi to all log readers, hope you enjoy the show00:02
knomei'll go watch some dreams.00:03
knomegood night everybody00:03
Tm_Tsleep well00:04
FlannelJust got one from Arthur_Orson [~mom@99.64.125.91]00:12
FlannelNot even sure which channel he's in.  Wasn't #u00:12
FlannelCould be a proxy, I guess.00:13
Flannelmore spam from the same IP00:23
dhanesh1hi bazhang01:18
dhanesh1 bazhang why are you not taking me in #ubuntu01:19
Flanneldhanesh1: Hi.  How can we help you today?01:20
dhanesh1 Flannel i cant enter in #ubuntu.the message is you are banned.01:21
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from ackt1c)01:35
FlannelI had to step out.02:14
FlannelUbottu didn't see his ban (but it is in the BT).  A ban for ban evading, I don't see a ban he was evading though02:15
ubottuI'll remember that, Flannel02:15
Flanneloh blah02:15
Flannelubottu: forget didn't see his ban (but it02:15
ubottuI'll forget that, Flannel02:15
FlannelThanks ubottu02:15
Tm_TFlannel: we don't need factoids to everything ;-P02:25
FlannelTm_T: I'll try and keep that in mind in the future02:25
Tm_Tit's funny how it's easy to accidentally add factoid02:28
FlannelAlmost be worth having a "undo the last factoid I added within the past 5 minutes" command02:29
Flannelsince sometimes they're unusually stubborn to remove02:29
FlannelThen again, we've all gotten used to it, so probably moot02:29
bazhangacktic/ackt1c seems to be ban evading as well (not the first time)02:56
FlannelHe was being random earlier, is he ban evading?02:58
bazhangthe bt says so02:59
FlannelOh wow, that's quite a laundry list03:00
bazhangstill no response via PM03:01
bazhangact1c ban evading in -ot05:29
bazhangerr ackt1c05:29
ubottubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (ACKT1C ban evading)05:34
elkyaktik being who?05:51
ubotturobinetd called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (TheSarge is being largely offensive and is personally attacking people.)06:28
mneptokSpaceGhostC2C: yesssss?06:32
SpaceGhostC2CHey, is it cool for anyone who is in channel to post the log?06:32
SpaceGhostC2Cnamely, #ubuntu-offtopic06:33
mneptokit's uncool, but unenforceable.06:33
SpaceGhostC2CLike say, at their university?06:33
ubottuSpaceGhostC2C called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (TheSarge for being troll.)06:34
ubottuSemitones called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (TheSarge language)06:34
SpaceGhostC2CAnyways, thanks as usual06:34
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ubottuRandom832 called the ops in #ubuntu (Oats)06:49
rwwHello! The "Don't ask for operator privileges" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines should probably be updated to reflect that you no longer "ask the helpful and polite members of the chat whether they want to take on the responsibility" and instead have people, umm, ask for operator privileges.06:58
rwwWell, apply. But I enjoy overstretching words for purposes of irony :(06:59
mneptokrww: the current call for ops is a temporary stop-gap measure necessary to fill ... well ... gaps.07:06
rwwmneptok: It was my understanding that this new application system was permanent.07:06
mneptokdear God, i hope not.07:07
mneptokthat's like strapping you face to an anthill and smothering your butt with jelly.07:07
rwwmneptok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements seems to think so, as does http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/07:08
imbrandonhahaha07:08
imbrandonmneptok: hows things going07:08
imbrandonugh actualy brb, time to reboot the new kernel07:09
mneptokimbrandon: bad this week. O'Reilly conf next week, and i've been buried. but atarting April 19 i have 2.5 weeks of vacation, and that will rock.07:09
mneptokbah07:09
mneptoktease07:09
mneptokrww: thanks for pointing out that new policy. i'll be in the upstairs closet, weeping gently and playing with my lower lip.07:10
tritiumI did find it rather surprising, myself.07:11
rwwmneptok: It's not all bad, I decided not to go through it, so you won't have to put up with me!07:16
rwwAnyway, yes, guidelines page probably needs some poking. I will now return to my regularly scheduled -offtopic abuse.07:16
elkymneptok, i am of the same understanding as rww.07:57
elkymneptok, and to the best of my knowledge, it's a coerced policy change.07:58
ubottuardchoille called the ops in #ubuntu (wow constant nick changes)09:06
apparleguys I am banned in kubuntu... why is it so?10:18
elkyapparle, have you previously used another nickname?10:23
apparleapparle: means?10:24
apparleapparle: I only use apparle and apparle_10:24
elkyWell I can't see what the problem is, so you'll have to wait around for someone who knows.10:27
elkyapparle, what happens when you try joining #kubuntu?10:28
apparleelky: [15:25] == #kubuntu Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned10:29
apparleelky: if it matter.... I am using webchat.freenode.net10:29
elkyi know you are.10:29
elkydo you not get sent to #kubuntu-proxy-users ?10:29
elkytsimpson, are you around?10:32
elkyapparle, if you go to #kubuntu-proxy-users and follow the instructions you'll get in10:33
elkyle sigh10:34
elkykubuntu ops, i don't know why you have that as a non-forwarding ban, but please reconsider10:34
tsimpsonelky: for some reason the forward part of the ban gets removed every now and then12:42
ardchoilleIt looks as though we have a bunch of folks in #ubuntu doing random text and/or testing the language triggers19:26
ardchoilleA few need a hint like AcePreshaw and krnlngnu19:27
MTecknologyI'm just curious about a couple things.. if somebody got banned from -offtopic for not agreeing with an op and was told it would be lifted after 24hr but then in the background it was decided to be indefinite, what would you guys think about that?20:53
MTecknologyand, if somebody came in here asking if the actions of people in -offtopic represented the rest of the community< what would that response be?20:55
tsimpsonI wouldn't be willing to speculate without specifics20:55
MTecknologythe indefinite came because in pm the user said they are really upset with the way the ops handled things in the channel20:57
tsimpsonwhat ban are we discussing here?20:58
Tm_Timpossible to speculate without specifics20:58
MTecknologyI was trying to leave you too many specifics - it's with the Gentoo guys - I just wanted to know how you guys would handle things20:59
Tm_TMTecknology: I would find out the facts and act then accordingly, really without specific information I wouldn't do anything other than perhaps look over more carefully20:59
tsimpsonI would like to think we don't ban people for simply disagreeing with an op, only if channel rules are not respected20:59
Tm_Tindeed20:59
jussi01we dont do time based bans...21:01
Tm_Tthat too21:01
Tm_Tbut that wasn't the point there, I suppose21:01
MTecknologythat's pretty much what happened - i didn't agree, i walked away form the keyboard, came back with a ban, ask the op that banned me about out, he said that he'd take it off after 24hr, i said that i didn't agree that there was a ban at all because I stopped talking about it and the next day they decided it was indefinite21:02
jussi01MTecknology: go and talk about it with them. thats my best advice.21:02
jussi01be respectful21:02
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MTecknologyI've tried, hopped in #gentoo-userrel and talk to them too - it's like a brick wall - I took Gentoo off of all my servers and other systems - I just wanted to hear how it would be handled in ubuntu land21:04
MTecknologywhat about that second question? it's much less related21:05
Tm_Tmy opinion: -offtopic is a venting corner, not at all representing our community21:06
tsimpson-offtopic just a strange place generally21:06
MTecknologyalrighty21:07
MTecknologythanks for putting up with my random questions :)21:07
topyliTm_T, -ot is special of course, but it still represents our community, sadly21:59
topyliit is a core ubuntu channel21:59
topyliwe could do better over there :)22:00
jussi01wolfie anyone?22:27
jussi01#wolfie ...22:27
knomewhat's that? :P22:27
jussi01knome: just a random irc game22:28
knomeright22:28
topylicongratulations on your nerve control on -ot, Flannel :)23:16

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