[00:01] <knome> 7msg VBB-VolleyballBa my size is A80. i hope you have a selection of bras for men as well.
[00:01] <knome> "oops"
[00:02] <Tm_T> hi to all log readers, hope you enjoy the show
[00:03] <knome> i'll go watch some dreams.
[00:03] <knome> good night everybody
[00:04] <Tm_T> sleep well
[00:12] <Flannel> Just got one from Arthur_Orson [~mom@99.64.125.91]
[00:12] <Flannel> Not even sure which channel he's in.  Wasn't #u
[00:13] <Flannel> Could be a proxy, I guess.
[00:23] <Flannel> more spam from the same IP
[01:18] <dhanesh1> hi bazhang
[01:19] <dhanesh1>  bazhang why are you not taking me in #ubuntu
[01:20] <Flannel> dhanesh1: Hi.  How can we help you today?
[01:21] <dhanesh1>  Flannel i cant enter in #ubuntu.the message is you are banned.
[02:14] <Flannel> I had to step out.
[02:15] <Flannel> Ubottu didn't see his ban (but it is in the BT).  A ban for ban evading, I don't see a ban he was evading though
[02:15] <Flannel> oh blah
[02:15] <Flannel> ubottu: forget didn't see his ban (but it
[02:15] <Flannel> Thanks ubottu
[02:25] <Tm_T> Flannel: we don't need factoids to everything ;-P
[02:25] <Flannel> Tm_T: I'll try and keep that in mind in the future
[02:28] <Tm_T> it's funny how it's easy to accidentally add factoid
[02:29] <Flannel> Almost be worth having a "undo the last factoid I added within the past 5 minutes" command
[02:29] <Flannel> since sometimes they're unusually stubborn to remove
[02:29] <Flannel> Then again, we've all gotten used to it, so probably moot
[02:56] <bazhang> acktic/ackt1c seems to be ban evading as well (not the first time)
[02:58] <Flannel> He was being random earlier, is he ban evading?
[02:59] <bazhang> the bt says so
[03:00] <Flannel> Oh wow, that's quite a laundry list
[03:01] <bazhang> still no response via PM
[05:29] <bazhang> act1c ban evading in -ot
[05:29] <bazhang> err ackt1c
[05:51] <elky> aktik being who?
[06:32] <mneptok> SpaceGhostC2C: yesssss?
[06:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> Hey, is it cool for anyone who is in channel to post the log?
[06:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> namely, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:33] <mneptok> it's uncool, but unenforceable.
[06:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> Like say, at their university?
[06:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> Anyways, thanks as usual
[06:58] <rww> Hello! The "Don't ask for operator privileges" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines should probably be updated to reflect that you no longer "ask the helpful and polite members of the chat whether they want to take on the responsibility" and instead have people, umm, ask for operator privileges.
[06:59] <rww> Well, apply. But I enjoy overstretching words for purposes of irony :(
[07:06] <mneptok> rww: the current call for ops is a temporary stop-gap measure necessary to fill ... well ... gaps.
[07:06] <rww> mneptok: It was my understanding that this new application system was permanent.
[07:07] <mneptok> dear God, i hope not.
[07:07] <mneptok> that's like strapping you face to an anthill and smothering your butt with jelly.
[07:08] <rww> mneptok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements seems to think so, as does http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/
[07:08] <imbrandon> hahaha
[07:08] <imbrandon> mneptok: hows things going
[07:09] <imbrandon> ugh actualy brb, time to reboot the new kernel
[07:09] <mneptok> imbrandon: bad this week. O'Reilly conf next week, and i've been buried. but atarting April 19 i have 2.5 weeks of vacation, and that will rock.
[07:09] <mneptok> bah
[07:09] <mneptok> tease
[07:10] <mneptok> rww: thanks for pointing out that new policy. i'll be in the upstairs closet, weeping gently and playing with my lower lip.
[07:11] <tritium> I did find it rather surprising, myself.
[07:16] <rww> mneptok: It's not all bad, I decided not to go through it, so you won't have to put up with me!
[07:16] <rww> Anyway, yes, guidelines page probably needs some poking. I will now return to my regularly scheduled -offtopic abuse.
[07:57] <elky> mneptok, i am of the same understanding as rww.
[07:58] <elky> mneptok, and to the best of my knowledge, it's a coerced policy change.
[10:18] <apparle> guys I am banned in kubuntu... why is it so?
[10:23] <elky> apparle, have you previously used another nickname?
[10:24] <apparle> apparle: means?
[10:24] <apparle> apparle: I only use apparle and apparle_
[10:27] <elky> Well I can't see what the problem is, so you'll have to wait around for someone who knows.
[10:28] <elky> apparle, what happens when you try joining #kubuntu?
[10:29] <apparle> elky: [15:25] == #kubuntu Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[10:29] <apparle> elky: if it matter.... I am using webchat.freenode.net
[10:29] <elky> i know you are.
[10:29] <elky> do you not get sent to #kubuntu-proxy-users ?
[10:32] <elky> tsimpson, are you around?
[10:33] <elky> apparle, if you go to #kubuntu-proxy-users and follow the instructions you'll get in
[10:34] <elky> le sigh
[10:34] <elky> kubuntu ops, i don't know why you have that as a non-forwarding ban, but please reconsider
[12:42] <tsimpson> elky: for some reason the forward part of the ban gets removed every now and then
[19:26] <ardchoille> It looks as though we have a bunch of folks in #ubuntu doing random text and/or testing the language triggers
[19:27] <ardchoille> A few need a hint like AcePreshaw and krnlngnu
[20:53] <MTecknology> I'm just curious about a couple things.. if somebody got banned from -offtopic for not agreeing with an op and was told it would be lifted after 24hr but then in the background it was decided to be indefinite, what would you guys think about that?
[20:55] <MTecknology> and, if somebody came in here asking if the actions of people in -offtopic represented the rest of the community< what would that response be?
[20:55] <tsimpson> I wouldn't be willing to speculate without specifics
[20:57] <MTecknology> the indefinite came because in pm the user said they are really upset with the way the ops handled things in the channel
[20:58] <tsimpson> what ban are we discussing here?
[20:58] <Tm_T> impossible to speculate without specifics
[20:59] <MTecknology> I was trying to leave you too many specifics - it's with the Gentoo guys - I just wanted to know how you guys would handle things
[20:59] <Tm_T> MTecknology: I would find out the facts and act then accordingly, really without specific information I wouldn't do anything other than perhaps look over more carefully
[20:59] <tsimpson> I would like to think we don't ban people for simply disagreeing with an op, only if channel rules are not respected
[20:59] <Tm_T> indeed
[21:01] <jussi01> we dont do time based bans...
[21:01] <Tm_T> that too
[21:01] <Tm_T> but that wasn't the point there, I suppose
[21:02] <MTecknology> that's pretty much what happened - i didn't agree, i walked away form the keyboard, came back with a ban, ask the op that banned me about out, he said that he'd take it off after 24hr, i said that i didn't agree that there was a ban at all because I stopped talking about it and the next day they decided it was indefinite
[21:02] <jussi01> MTecknology: go and talk about it with them. thats my best advice.
[21:02] <jussi01> be respectful
[21:04] <MTecknology> I've tried, hopped in #gentoo-userrel and talk to them too - it's like a brick wall - I took Gentoo off of all my servers and other systems - I just wanted to hear how it would be handled in ubuntu land
[21:05] <MTecknology> what about that second question? it's much less related
[21:06] <Tm_T> my opinion: -offtopic is a venting corner, not at all representing our community
[21:06] <tsimpson> -offtopic just a strange place generally
[21:07] <MTecknology> alrighty
[21:07] <MTecknology> thanks for putting up with my random questions :)
[21:59] <topyli> Tm_T, -ot is special of course, but it still represents our community, sadly
[21:59] <topyli> it is a core ubuntu channel
[22:00] <topyli> we could do better over there :)
[22:27] <jussi01> wolfie anyone?
[22:27] <jussi01> #wolfie ...
[22:27] <knome> what's that? :P
[22:28] <jussi01> knome: just a random irc game
[22:28] <knome> right
[23:16] <topyli> congratulations on your nerve control on -ot, Flannel :)