| White-Horse | hi guys i am in need of something to make slide shows with affects and music but openoffice.org just ain't doing it for me anyone know what i can use ? | 03:18 |
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| holstein | hey White-Horse | 03:18 |
| White-Horse | hi | 03:19 |
| holstein | im an audio guy | 03:19 |
| holstein | almost exclusively | 03:19 |
| holstein | BUT... | 03:19 |
| holstein | let me think a minute | 03:19 |
| White-Horse | i used something called pro show gold on a windows machine i do have to admit it was great would love to find something for ubuntu 9.04 32-bit thats kinda the same | 03:20 |
| holstein | OH | 03:21 |
| holstein | scribus? | 03:21 |
| White-Horse | maybe | 03:22 |
| holstein | http://www.scribus.net/ | 03:22 |
| holstein | ?? | 03:22 |
| White-Horse | one sec i look | 03:22 |
| holstein | i used that for something WAY back | 03:22 |
| holstein | i forget what it even looked like | 03:22 |
| holstein | how about a photo suite? | 03:23 |
| holstein | http://www.rawtherapee.com/ | 03:23 |
| White-Horse | i need something as close to this as it can be: http://www.photodex.com/products/proshow/producer | 03:23 |
| holstein | this just went open source | 03:23 |
| holstein | im not sure it does slides or not | 03:24 |
| holstein | do you have that software White-Horse ? | 03:24 |
| holstein | you could try it in wine... | 03:24 |
| White-Horse | yes i own it | 03:24 |
| White-Horse | but not sure if it will run in wine | 03:24 |
| White-Horse | it uses alot of windows codecs | 03:25 |
| White-Horse | and .dll's | 03:25 |
| holstein | well, if you have to have it | 03:25 |
| holstein | its worth a try | 03:25 |
| holstein | what about an online slide show maker? | 03:25 |
| White-Horse | what about ILinux ? | 03:25 |
| holstein | like picassa? | 03:25 |
| White-Horse | not sure if picassa will make the affects i am looking for | 03:26 |
| ACKT1C | anything is worth a shot | 03:26 |
| ACKT1C | artistically speaking | 03:28 |
| White-Horse | i can give you a link to a youtube vid that i am trying to make maybe that will help if you see what kind of affects i am looking to do ? | 03:28 |
| holstein | i'll look at it for sure | 03:28 |
| White-Horse | ok one sec | 03:28 |
| holstein | and i'll show it around too | 03:28 |
| holstein | but | 03:28 |
| holstein | i just dont do anything like that on linux | 03:28 |
| holstein | OR any OS | 03:28 |
| holstein | but, im sure somebody knows | 03:29 |
| White-Horse | http://www.youtube.com/user/IamMadisonPettis?feature=chclk | 03:29 |
| White-Horse | i make videos like that almost everyday with pro show gold on a windows machine but i would really like to make them from my ubuntu laptop as well | 03:30 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:31 |
| White-Horse | that youtube link was made from a mac book pro | 03:31 |
| White-Horse | with ilife | 03:31 |
| holstein | i know #ubuntu is a mess | 03:32 |
| holstein | BUT... | 03:32 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ | 03:32 |
| holstein | you could try a local ubuntu channel | 03:32 |
| holstein | ALSO | 03:32 |
| holstein | the #ubuntu-uk channel | 03:32 |
| holstein | i know some of those guys do video | 03:33 |
| holstein | i listen to the ubuntu uk podcast | 03:33 |
| Andorin | My friend installed some Ubuntu Studio packages from the repos on Karmic. She's now telling me that several programs- Pidgin, GIMP, Rhythmbox, etc- are segfaulting. Some don't work at all. | 03:33 |
| holstein | http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ | 03:33 |
| White-Horse | ok i will give those a try | 03:33 |
| Andorin | Trying to search around via Google and such but not finding much helpful info... | 03:33 |
| White-Horse | thanks so much holstein | 03:33 |
| holstein | White-Horse: but, check back in here anytime | 03:33 |
| White-Horse | will do | 03:33 |
| White-Horse | thanks | 03:34 |
| holstein | :) | 03:34 |
| White-Horse | take care | 03:34 |
| holstein | hello Andorin | 03:34 |
| holstein | SO karmic | 03:35 |
| holstein | 32? 64 bit? | 03:35 |
| holstein | standard install with what packages added? | 03:35 |
| Andorin | 32 | 03:35 |
| holstein | the meta packages? | 03:35 |
| holstein | like ubuntustudio-whatever? | 03:35 |
| holstein | or like sudo apt-get install gimp? | 03:36 |
| holstein | also, are you at the machine? | 03:36 |
| holstein | can you run uname -a | 03:37 |
| holstein | or do you know what kernel? | 03:37 |
| Andorin | I'm pretty sure she installed the meta-packages through apt. (Neither of us know anything about Ubuntu Studio; she wanted to try it out.) And no, I'm not, but I'm communicating with her. | 03:37 |
| holstein | OK | 03:37 |
| Andorin | I'll have her run commands/follow instructions as necessary. | 03:37 |
| Andorin | Her kernel version is 2.6.31-20 | 03:38 |
| holstein | do you think something triggered it? | 03:38 |
| holstein | or did she install the packages | 03:38 |
| holstein | and boom | 03:38 |
| holstein | they never worked | 03:38 |
| Andorin | Rhythmbox and such worked fine before she installed the Ubuntu Studio packages, and now they're not working. So it's most likely because of Studio. | 03:39 |
| holstein | OH | 03:39 |
| holstein | interesting | 03:39 |
| holstein | well, i would suggest | 03:39 |
| holstein | trying to get rid of the meta packages she installed | 03:40 |
| holstein | i know it took a long time to get them :/ | 03:40 |
| holstein | it could be... | 03:40 |
| holstein | some things are getting updated and changed around for lucid | 03:40 |
| holstein | OR something is just not quite right somewhere in the repos | 03:40 |
| Andorin | Right. | 03:40 |
| holstein | and a conflict is somewhere | 03:40 |
| holstein | BUT | 03:41 |
| holstein | if she wants | 03:41 |
| Andorin | Um, these packages came with a whole flood of dependencies. | 03:41 |
| holstein | yup | 03:41 |
| holstein | i think you would want to use aptitude | 03:41 |
| holstein | or sudo apt-get auto remove ubuntustudio-*whatever* | 03:41 |
| holstein | i forget how to do that in synaptic | 03:42 |
| holstein | remove packages and all the extra stuff too | 03:42 |
| holstein | anyways | 03:42 |
| holstein | you dont have to install ubuntustudio | 03:42 |
| holstein | OR all the studio packages | 03:42 |
| holstein | the theme is nice though | 03:42 |
| Andorin | Does that have to be done manually for each package? Because as I said, there were an awful lot, and we don't know which is causing the problems. | 03:42 |
| holstein | mostly | 03:42 |
| holstein | you will benifit by having all the audio packages installed | 03:43 |
| holstein | Andorin: you should be able to get rid of the meta-packages | 03:43 |
| holstein | and be cool | 03:43 |
| holstein | thats where i would start | 03:43 |
| Andorin | Alright. | 03:43 |
| * holstein assumes all other packages are up to date? | 03:43 | |
| Andorin | Right. | 03:44 |
| holstein | yeah | 03:44 |
| holstein | you could try booting into a couple old kernels | 03:44 |
| Andorin | Does apt support wildcards for package names? e.g. auto-remove ubuntustudio-* | 03:44 |
| holstein | and see if the programs run smoother | 03:45 |
| holstein | Andorin: wow | 03:45 |
| holstein | good question | 03:45 |
| Andorin | I could ask in #ubuntu | 03:45 |
| Andorin | And actually | 03:45 |
| holstein | you can try | 03:45 |
| holstein | let me know | 03:46 |
| holstein | im aksing a few places too | 03:46 |
| Andorin | I just tried sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-* without confirming the install, and it pulled up a huge list of packages. | 03:46 |
| Andorin | So I think it works. | 03:46 |
| holstein | OH | 03:46 |
| holstein | i like it | 03:46 |
| holstein | look through them | 03:46 |
| holstein | at least glance | 03:46 |
| Andorin | Yep | 03:46 |
| holstein | just to make sure it looks normal | 03:46 |
| Andorin | It pulls up all packages with ubuntustudio- in their names, and their dependencies. | 03:46 |
| holstein | i would go for that i think | 03:47 |
| Andorin | Yeah, I told her to run it. | 03:47 |
| holstein | see if you can get back to square one | 03:47 |
| * holstein is not responsible for any loss of friendship you might encounter during this tech call ;) | 03:48 | |
| holstein | if it seems like thats the case | 03:48 |
| holstein | and everything is back to normal | 03:48 |
| holstein | let me konw | 03:48 |
| holstein | know* | 03:48 |
| holstein | thats not cool | 03:48 |
| Andorin | Right, I'll let you know. | 03:48 |
| Andorin | Well, the wild card thing isn't going to work, because it doesn't remove the dependencies. | 04:02 |
| Andorin | People in #ubuntu are saying that apt should remove them automatically, but according to what she's telling me about the disk space being freed by each removal command, it isn't. | 04:03 |
| holstein | Andorin: sudo apt-get autoremove ? | 04:04 |
| Andorin | She ran sudo apt-get --purge autoremove as part of the process. | 04:05 |
| holstein | OH | 04:05 |
| holstein | and no dice | 04:05 |
| holstein | ? | 04:05 |
| Andorin | Right. | 04:05 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:05 |
| holstein | rythymbox is still Fd up | 04:05 |
| Andorin | Yes. | 04:06 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:07 |
| holstein | is that the only software that is acting funny? | 04:07 |
| holstein | she could try reinstalling taht | 04:07 |
| holstein | that* | 04:07 |
| holstein | you can do that in the gui part of synaptic | 04:08 |
| holstein | if you search for it | 04:08 |
| holstein | you can right click and say reinstall | 04:08 |
| holstein | i can imagine what would break rythymbox | 04:08 |
| holstein | BUT to be honest | 04:08 |
| holstein | i dont use it on my studio box | 04:08 |
| holstein | ive never even launched it | 04:09 |
| * holstein fires up ubuntustudio... | 04:09 | |
| holstein | hmm | 04:12 |
| holstein | yeah | 04:12 |
| holstein | im not convinced that that is the trigger | 04:12 |
| holstein | i got ubuntustudio packages added that way too | 04:12 |
| holstein | i did not get the themes | 04:12 |
| holstein | BUT i got rythymbox running | 04:12 |
| * holstein had issues with the themes | 04:13 | |
| holstein | causing some crashing here and there | 04:13 |
| holstein | is she back to the default theme? | 04:13 |
| Andorin | Sorry, trying to get an answer in #ubuntu too. Um... | 04:14 |
| holstein | sure | 04:14 |
| Andorin | I'll ask her about themes. | 04:14 |
| bastid_raZor | hi, if i'm trying to remove all the packages ubuntu studio added and get back to just ubuntu.. what would that require? | 04:16 |
| holstein | hey bastid_raZor | 04:16 |
| holstein | are you Andorin 's friend? | 04:16 |
| Andorin | She says she's also having trouble with the Appearances menu and can't get into it to adjust the theme. | 04:16 |
| Andorin | I'm pretty sure he's asking because of me ^^; | 04:16 |
| bastid_raZor | no, but i was trying to get an answer for him. | 04:16 |
| holstein | OH ok | 04:17 |
| holstein | cool | 04:17 |
| bastid_raZor | i wasn't finding much on google. | 04:17 |
| Andorin | I tried that too. | 04:17 |
| tucemiux | bastid_raZor, why would you want to do that? LoL | 04:17 |
| tucemiux | wut up holstein | 04:17 |
| holstein | hey tucemiux :) | 04:17 |
| Andorin | tucemiux: Because my friend installed the metapackages and now several of her apps (such as Rhythmbox) are crashing. | 04:17 |
| tucemiux | holstein, youre back home from your gig so soon? | 04:17 |
| Andorin | So we need to remove them, but that is proving to be difficult. | 04:18 |
| holstein | tucemiux: it was an early one | 04:18 |
| holstein | tomorrow, i got 2 | 04:18 |
| holstein | and one is late | 04:18 |
| tucemiux | dawn | 04:18 |
| holstein | hehe | 04:18 |
| tucemiux | youre my hewoe | 04:18 |
| holstein | lol | 04:18 |
| tucemiux | you dont drink, right? | 04:18 |
| holstein | sometimes | 04:18 |
| holstein | i quit smoking 8 days ago | 04:19 |
| holstein | ive been dringking a little more than average | 04:19 |
| tucemiux | ok well youre not an alcoholic like me, otherwise you wouldve stayed out drinking | 04:19 |
| holstein | nah | 04:19 |
| tucemiux | you quit smoking? congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 04:19 |
| holstein | just a beer here and there | 04:19 |
| holstein | ;) | 04:19 |
| holstein | 8 days | 04:19 |
| holstein | and no fatalities | 04:19 |
| tucemiux | ha ha ha | 04:20 |
| tucemiux | well I can stay up drinking all night long till the morning LoL | 04:20 |
| tucemiux | that's why I decided not to go out drinking on the weekends | 04:20 |
| holstein | SO how about dpkg ? | 04:20 |
| holstein | isnt there a purge in there? | 04:20 |
| holstein | i though sudo apt-get autoremove metapackage would get it | 04:21 |
| holstein | and thats not the case | 04:21 |
| tucemiux | Andorin, i would just reinstall, it's the easiest, just back up your file and reinstall, boom, it's done, i generally reimage my machine every 6 months or so | 04:21 |
| holstein | i dont think he has direct access | 04:22 |
| holstein | she could update though | 04:22 |
| holstein | that would really get things going ;) | 04:22 |
| Andorin | She can't. | 04:22 |
| Andorin | She doesn't have the disk space necessary to back up her files at the moment. | 04:22 |
| holstein | cant upgrade? | 04:22 |
| holstein | OH | 04:23 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:23 |
| * holstein wonders if this i not related somehow | 04:23 | |
| holstein | is* | 04:23 |
| holstein | Andorin: what happens now with a simple sudo apt-get autoremove | 04:26 |
| holstein | tucemiux: you install each ubuntu release fresh? | 04:27 |
| holstein | i usually try the update | 04:27 |
| holstein | upgrade* | 04:28 |
| holstein | if i have time | 04:28 |
| tucemiux | holstein, yup yup | 04:28 |
| holstein | and then i do a fresh install too ;) | 04:28 |
| Andorin | holstein: 0 | 04:28 |
| tucemiux | holstein, i generally test it first then upgrade to the official version, then download the official ISO and reinstall again | 04:28 |
| Andorin | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded. | 04:29 |
| holstein | hehe | 04:29 |
| holstein | Andorin: SO | 04:29 |
| holstein | why is 11 not upgraded? | 04:29 |
| holstein | what are those? | 04:29 |
| Andorin | Those are software updates she hasn't installed yet. They're irrelevant. | 04:29 |
| holstein | right | 04:29 |
| holstein | there not updated | 04:30 |
| holstein | those versions could need to be updated | 04:30 |
| Andorin | Software updates for programs like Firefox. | 04:30 |
| holstein | what are they? | 04:30 |
| holstein | OH | 04:30 |
| Andorin | Updates that were recently issued. | 04:30 |
| holstein | no libawhatnots | 04:30 |
| jordanl | are there any special considerations when doing a fresh install on lucid when your root partition is raid0? | 04:35 |
| jordanl | i thought this was a lucid only bug... but it's breaking on a fresh 9.10 install too | 04:35 |
| holstein | you should try that in #ubuntu+1 | 04:36 |
| holstein | thtas a good question | 04:36 |
| holstein | thats* | 04:36 |
| jordanl | the first boot fails with a message like "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<long uuid> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" | 04:36 |
| jordanl | ok | 04:36 |
| holstein | i havnet had the oppotunity to work with RAID yet | 04:36 |
| holstein | jordanl: yeah, you might have to try again over there | 04:42 |
| holstein | and get louder ;) | 04:42 |
| jordanl | holstein: ok, thanks. i try not to be obnoxious in the support channels though. i know we're all volunteers | 04:44 |
| jordanl | i'll try in regular #ubuntu as well now since i get the same result on a fresh 9.10 install | 04:44 |
| holstein | you could ask | 04:45 |
| holstein | yeah, not obnoxious | 04:45 |
| holstein | just a little loud | 04:45 |
| holstein | i think most of the devs are taking a break since beta 2 | 04:46 |
| holstein | getting ready for RC | 04:46 |
| holstein | taking a break from IRC to do work | 04:46 |
| jordanl | yep | 04:51 |
| jordanl | and i'm trying to take a break from work to do audio recording | 04:51 |
| jordanl | ;) | 04:51 |
| tucemiux | jordanl, youre a developer? | 04:52 |
| jordanl | yes, but not an ubuntu dev | 04:52 |
| tucemiux | jordanl, ahhh so you dont work on opensource stuff? | 04:52 |
| jordanl | no, but i would like to | 04:53 |
| tucemiux | jordanl, if you know how to code just pick your poison and shoot | 04:53 |
| tucemiux | there's plenty of projects around | 04:54 |
| holstein | jordanl: there was an interview today | 04:54 |
| holstein | with ScottL | 04:54 |
| holstein | on the #opensourcemusicians podcast | 04:54 |
| jordanl | wow, i solved it | 04:55 |
| holstein | jordanl: w00t | 04:55 |
| holstein | how | 04:55 |
| holstein | ? | 04:55 |
| jordanl | it was a stupid thing actually | 04:56 |
| holstein | heh | 04:56 |
| holstein | e | 04:56 |
| jordanl | my root partition was raid0 | 04:56 |
| holstein | OH | 04:56 |
| jordanl | but the bootable partition can only be raid1 | 04:56 |
| holstein | so that grub idea you had | 04:56 |
| jordanl | the thing is, my first installation attempt with lucid had a separate boot partition on raid1 | 04:56 |
| jordanl | and that one failed the same way, so i tried letting ubuntu automatically partition things for me | 04:56 |
| jordanl | and i had been using that configuration from then in (which only used a / partition and a swap partition) | 04:57 |
| jordanl | so i should go back and retry lucid with a separate /boot again and see if i can reproduce with the daily build | 04:57 |
| jordanl | because i just got this to work on 9.10 | 04:57 |
| holstein | i like it | 04:58 |
| holstein | sounds like you got it solved | 04:58 |
| jordanl | yes :) | 04:58 |
| jordanl | i will check that podcast with ScottL | 04:59 |
| jordanl | so ubuntustudio uses the Private directory when you choose to use an encrypted homedir? | 05:22 |
| jordanl | the regular install encrypts your entire homedir if i remember correctly | 05:23 |
| holstein | jordanl: i still havent encrypted a home yet either | 05:24 |
| jefimenko | does anyone here use a delta 1010 in ubuntustudio? ice1712 | 07:43 |
| jefimenko | i can hear any output from pulseaudio | 07:47 |
| jefimenko | but i can hear stuff through jack | 07:48 |
| jefimenko | can i just have jack always running and make pulseaudio play through jack? | 08:29 |
| tucemiux | anybody uses dropbox?? | 17:15 |
| _guitarman_ | dropbox is awesome | 17:15 |
| tucemiux | _guitarman_, im in opensourcemusicians, i typed into the wrong channel | 17:16 |
| tucemiux | #opensourcemusicians | 17:42 |
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