[03:18] hi guys i am in need of something to make slide shows with affects and music but openoffice.org just ain't doing it for me anyone know what i can use ? [03:18] hey White-Horse [03:19] hi [03:19] im an audio guy [03:19] almost exclusively [03:19] BUT... [03:19] let me think a minute [03:20] i used something called pro show gold on a windows machine i do have to admit it was great would love to find something for ubuntu 9.04 32-bit thats kinda the same [03:21] OH [03:21] scribus? [03:22] maybe [03:22] http://www.scribus.net/ [03:22] ?? [03:22] one sec i look [03:22] i used that for something WAY back [03:22] i forget what it even looked like [03:23] how about a photo suite? [03:23] http://www.rawtherapee.com/ [03:23] i need something as close to this as it can be: http://www.photodex.com/products/proshow/producer [03:23] this just went open source [03:24] im not sure it does slides or not [03:24] do you have that software White-Horse ? [03:24] you could try it in wine... [03:24] yes i own it [03:24] but not sure if it will run in wine [03:25] it uses alot of windows codecs [03:25] and .dll's [03:25] well, if you have to have it [03:25] its worth a try [03:25] what about an online slide show maker? [03:25] what about ILinux ? [03:25] like picassa? [03:26] not sure if picassa will make the affects i am looking for [03:26] anything is worth a shot [03:28] artistically speaking [03:28] i can give you a link to a youtube vid that i am trying to make maybe that will help if you see what kind of affects i am looking to do ? [03:28] i'll look at it for sure [03:28] ok one sec [03:28] and i'll show it around too [03:28] but [03:28] i just dont do anything like that on linux [03:28] OR any OS [03:29] but, im sure somebody knows [03:29] http://www.youtube.com/user/IamMadisonPettis?feature=chclk [03:30] i make videos like that almost everyday with pro show gold on a windows machine but i would really like to make them from my ubuntu laptop as well [03:31] hmmm [03:31] that youtube link was made from a mac book pro [03:31] with ilife [03:32] i know #ubuntu is a mess [03:32] BUT... [03:32] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ [03:32] you could try a local ubuntu channel [03:32] ALSO [03:32] the #ubuntu-uk channel [03:33] i know some of those guys do video [03:33] i listen to the ubuntu uk podcast [03:33] My friend installed some Ubuntu Studio packages from the repos on Karmic. She's now telling me that several programs- Pidgin, GIMP, Rhythmbox, etc- are segfaulting. Some don't work at all. [03:33] http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ [03:33] ok i will give those a try [03:33] Trying to search around via Google and such but not finding much helpful info... [03:33] thanks so much holstein [03:33] White-Horse: but, check back in here anytime [03:33] will do [03:34] thanks [03:34] :) [03:34] take care [03:34] hello Andorin [03:35] SO karmic [03:35] 32? 64 bit? [03:35] standard install with what packages added? [03:35] 32 [03:35] the meta packages? [03:35] like ubuntustudio-whatever? [03:36] or like sudo apt-get install gimp? [03:36] also, are you at the machine? [03:37] can you run uname -a [03:37] or do you know what kernel? [03:37] I'm pretty sure she installed the meta-packages through apt. (Neither of us know anything about Ubuntu Studio; she wanted to try it out.) And no, I'm not, but I'm communicating with her. [03:37] OK [03:37] I'll have her run commands/follow instructions as necessary. [03:38] Her kernel version is 2.6.31-20 [03:38] do you think something triggered it? [03:38] or did she install the packages [03:38] and boom [03:38] they never worked [03:39] Rhythmbox and such worked fine before she installed the Ubuntu Studio packages, and now they're not working. So it's most likely because of Studio. [03:39] OH [03:39] interesting [03:39] well, i would suggest [03:40] trying to get rid of the meta packages she installed [03:40] i know it took a long time to get them :/ [03:40] it could be... [03:40] some things are getting updated and changed around for lucid [03:40] OR something is just not quite right somewhere in the repos [03:40] Right. [03:40] and a conflict is somewhere [03:41] BUT [03:41] if she wants [03:41] Um, these packages came with a whole flood of dependencies. [03:41] yup [03:41] i think you would want to use aptitude [03:41] or sudo apt-get auto remove ubuntustudio-*whatever* [03:42] i forget how to do that in synaptic [03:42] remove packages and all the extra stuff too [03:42] anyways [03:42] you dont have to install ubuntustudio [03:42] OR all the studio packages [03:42] the theme is nice though [03:42] Does that have to be done manually for each package? Because as I said, there were an awful lot, and we don't know which is causing the problems. [03:42] mostly [03:43] you will benifit by having all the audio packages installed [03:43] Andorin: you should be able to get rid of the meta-packages [03:43] and be cool [03:43] thats where i would start [03:43] Alright. [03:43] * holstein assumes all other packages are up to date? [03:44] Right. [03:44] yeah [03:44] you could try booting into a couple old kernels [03:44] Does apt support wildcards for package names? e.g. auto-remove ubuntustudio-* [03:45] and see if the programs run smoother [03:45] Andorin: wow [03:45] good question [03:45] I could ask in #ubuntu [03:45] And actually [03:45] you can try [03:46] let me know [03:46] im aksing a few places too [03:46] I just tried sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-* without confirming the install, and it pulled up a huge list of packages. [03:46] So I think it works. [03:46] OH [03:46] i like it [03:46] look through them [03:46] at least glance [03:46] Yep [03:46] just to make sure it looks normal [03:46] It pulls up all packages with ubuntustudio- in their names, and their dependencies. [03:47] i would go for that i think [03:47] Yeah, I told her to run it. [03:47] see if you can get back to square one [03:48] * holstein is not responsible for any loss of friendship you might encounter during this tech call ;) [03:48] if it seems like thats the case [03:48] and everything is back to normal [03:48] let me konw [03:48] know* [03:48] thats not cool [03:48] Right, I'll let you know. [04:02] Well, the wild card thing isn't going to work, because it doesn't remove the dependencies. [04:03] People in #ubuntu are saying that apt should remove them automatically, but according to what she's telling me about the disk space being freed by each removal command, it isn't. [04:04] Andorin: sudo apt-get autoremove ? [04:05] She ran sudo apt-get --purge autoremove as part of the process. [04:05] OH [04:05] and no dice [04:05] ? [04:05] Right. [04:05] hmmm [04:05] rythymbox is still Fd up [04:06] Yes. [04:07] hmmm [04:07] is that the only software that is acting funny? [04:07] she could try reinstalling taht [04:07] that* [04:08] you can do that in the gui part of synaptic [04:08] if you search for it [04:08] you can right click and say reinstall [04:08] i can imagine what would break rythymbox [04:08] BUT to be honest [04:08] i dont use it on my studio box [04:09] ive never even launched it [04:09] * holstein fires up ubuntustudio... [04:12] hmm [04:12] yeah [04:12] im not convinced that that is the trigger [04:12] i got ubuntustudio packages added that way too [04:12] i did not get the themes [04:12] BUT i got rythymbox running [04:13] * holstein had issues with the themes [04:13] causing some crashing here and there [04:13] is she back to the default theme? [04:14] Sorry, trying to get an answer in #ubuntu too. Um... [04:14] sure [04:14] I'll ask her about themes. [04:16] hi, if i'm trying to remove all the packages ubuntu studio added and get back to just ubuntu.. what would that require? [04:16] hey bastid_raZor [04:16] are you Andorin 's friend? [04:16] She says she's also having trouble with the Appearances menu and can't get into it to adjust the theme. [04:16] I'm pretty sure he's asking because of me ^^; [04:16] no, but i was trying to get an answer for him. [04:17] OH ok [04:17] cool [04:17] i wasn't finding much on google. [04:17] I tried that too. [04:17] bastid_raZor, why would you want to do that? LoL [04:17] wut up holstein [04:17] hey tucemiux :) [04:17] tucemiux: Because my friend installed the metapackages and now several of her apps (such as Rhythmbox) are crashing. [04:17] holstein, youre back home from your gig so soon? [04:18] So we need to remove them, but that is proving to be difficult. [04:18] tucemiux: it was an early one [04:18] tomorrow, i got 2 [04:18] and one is late [04:18] dawn [04:18] hehe [04:18] youre my hewoe [04:18] lol [04:18] you dont drink, right? [04:18] sometimes [04:19] i quit smoking 8 days ago [04:19] ive been dringking a little more than average [04:19] ok well youre not an alcoholic like me, otherwise you wouldve stayed out drinking [04:19] nah [04:19] you quit smoking? congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:19] just a beer here and there [04:19] ;) [04:19] 8 days [04:19] and no fatalities [04:20] ha ha ha [04:20] well I can stay up drinking all night long till the morning LoL [04:20] that's why I decided not to go out drinking on the weekends [04:20] SO how about dpkg ? [04:20] isnt there a purge in there? [04:21] i though sudo apt-get autoremove metapackage would get it [04:21] and thats not the case [04:21] Andorin, i would just reinstall, it's the easiest, just back up your file and reinstall, boom, it's done, i generally reimage my machine every 6 months or so [04:22] i dont think he has direct access [04:22] she could update though [04:22] that would really get things going ;) [04:22] She can't. [04:22] She doesn't have the disk space necessary to back up her files at the moment. [04:22] cant upgrade? [04:23] OH [04:23] hmmm [04:23] * holstein wonders if this i not related somehow [04:23] is* [04:26] Andorin: what happens now with a simple sudo apt-get autoremove [04:27] tucemiux: you install each ubuntu release fresh? [04:27] i usually try the update [04:28] upgrade* [04:28] if i have time [04:28] holstein, yup yup [04:28] and then i do a fresh install too ;) [04:28] holstein: 0 [04:28] holstein, i generally test it first then upgrade to the official version, then download the official ISO and reinstall again [04:29] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded. [04:29] hehe [04:29] Andorin: SO [04:29] why is 11 not upgraded? [04:29] what are those? [04:29] Those are software updates she hasn't installed yet. They're irrelevant. [04:29] right [04:30] there not updated [04:30] those versions could need to be updated [04:30] Software updates for programs like Firefox. [04:30] what are they? [04:30] OH [04:30] Updates that were recently issued. [04:30] no libawhatnots [04:35] are there any special considerations when doing a fresh install on lucid when your root partition is raid0? [04:35] i thought this was a lucid only bug... but it's breaking on a fresh 9.10 install too [04:36] you should try that in #ubuntu+1 [04:36] thtas a good question [04:36] thats* [04:36] the first boot fails with a message like "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" [04:36] ok [04:36] i havnet had the oppotunity to work with RAID yet [04:42] jordanl: yeah, you might have to try again over there [04:42] and get louder ;) [04:44] holstein: ok, thanks. i try not to be obnoxious in the support channels though. i know we're all volunteers [04:44] i'll try in regular #ubuntu as well now since i get the same result on a fresh 9.10 install [04:45] you could ask [04:45] yeah, not obnoxious [04:45] just a little loud [04:46] i think most of the devs are taking a break since beta 2 [04:46] getting ready for RC [04:46] taking a break from IRC to do work [04:51] yep [04:51] and i'm trying to take a break from work to do audio recording [04:51] ;) [04:52] jordanl, youre a developer? [04:52] yes, but not an ubuntu dev [04:52] jordanl, ahhh so you dont work on opensource stuff? [04:53] no, but i would like to [04:53] jordanl, if you know how to code just pick your poison and shoot [04:54] there's plenty of projects around [04:54] jordanl: there was an interview today [04:54] with ScottL [04:54] on the #opensourcemusicians podcast [04:55] wow, i solved it [04:55] jordanl: w00t [04:55] how [04:55] ? [04:56] it was a stupid thing actually [04:56] heh [04:56] e [04:56] my root partition was raid0 [04:56] OH [04:56] but the bootable partition can only be raid1 [04:56] so that grub idea you had [04:56] the thing is, my first installation attempt with lucid had a separate boot partition on raid1 [04:56] and that one failed the same way, so i tried letting ubuntu automatically partition things for me [04:57] and i had been using that configuration from then in (which only used a / partition and a swap partition) [04:57] so i should go back and retry lucid with a separate /boot again and see if i can reproduce with the daily build [04:57] because i just got this to work on 9.10 [04:58] i like it [04:58] sounds like you got it solved [04:58] yes :) [04:59] i will check that podcast with ScottL [05:22] so ubuntustudio uses the Private directory when you choose to use an encrypted homedir? [05:23] the regular install encrypts your entire homedir if i remember correctly [05:24] jordanl: i still havent encrypted a home yet either [07:43] does anyone here use a delta 1010 in ubuntustudio? ice1712 [07:47] i can hear any output from pulseaudio [07:48] but i can hear stuff through jack [08:29] can i just have jack always running and make pulseaudio play through jack? [17:15] anybody uses dropbox?? [17:15] <_guitarman_> dropbox is awesome [17:16] _guitarman_, im in opensourcemusicians, i typed into the wrong channel [17:42] #opensourcemusicians