[00:00] hasenj: maybe lucid has diff startup apps -idk - iirc .config is where the autostart apps are [00:00] but if you didn't back it up... [00:01] what .config? [00:01] somewhere in /etc/sessions or something like that? [00:01] hasenj: no in your home folder [00:02] hmm [00:03] hasenj: ctrl+h to show hidden folders [00:03] yea I'm in it [00:04] no file there is called xubuntu [00:05] hey all, just got a lil question here... [00:05] how can I update packages in xubuntu with only the command line [00:05] hasenj: but like I said if you didn't back it up when upgrading it prob got overwritten so the old configs won't be there [00:05] hexdump_, sudo apt-get update to update the package list [00:05] it might still be in the xfce session [00:05] it would be xfsession or autostart iirc [00:05] sudo apt-get upgrade to get the newest packages I believe [00:05] !apt-get [00:05] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) [00:05] ok [00:06] vinnl: I've done that, but it keeps telling me there are updates [00:07] I'm using ssh and I don't have gui [00:08] hexdump_: use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [00:08] hexdump_: from my experience, aptitude can hande dependencies best... i sue it as deflault over apt-get [00:09] I got it it's sudo apt-get upgrade [00:09] Benkinooby: thanks buddy [00:09] hexdump_: np [00:09] so sudo aptitude safe-upgrade works as well? [00:10] hexdump_: yes... as i said... i trust aptitude more than apt-get [00:10] I'm running my web server with no window manager because it eats up resources [00:10] well I could just try aptitude afterwards and it wouldn't hurt anything would it [00:12] I'm gonna give it a go [00:12] hexdump_: just do it... after you updated with apt-get there should be nothingto be done for aptitude [00:13] Bekinooby: Well I tried it and it's upgrading. Is it just overwriting the previous updates? [00:13] hexdump_: also, you can install a gui (which can be a very fast and small windowmanager too). only becuase you instlled it, you dont need to use it [00:14] I know I turned off my gui. changed gdm.conf to gdm.no [00:14] heh heh [00:14] hexdump_: :) [00:16] I really like ubuntu, that's what I use on my primary computer (My desktop) but I would have liked to try BSD for my server or CentOS maybe I dunno. [00:16] but wait, ubuntu has a server version that I should have used. [00:20] hexdump_: usually, for servers debian or redhat is first choice [00:21] hexdump_: also ubuntu derives from debian, so they have many things in common [00:21] hexdump_: if you want to learn more about linux/bsd/solaris feel free to choose... gentoo is the one for ultimate knowledge... and pain ;) [00:25] Bekinooby: thanks, I've been messing around with a lot of different distros recently. [00:28] Benkinooby: alright I'll be back later some time. [01:47] hi again, can some1 help me. my desktoplinks, which are used to work with kde don't work under xfce - except for one (wxmaxima)! i checked all permissions and settings and compared them to the working wxmaxima but i can't dinf the mistake http://pastebin.com/c865y5kn [02:15] Hello. I've got a screwed up locale on my system. Has anybody heard of such a thing before? [02:16] hmm I know what locale is but in which part? under xorg? [02:16] It only shows up under OpenOffice.org and AbiWord. [02:17] using scim I suppose? [02:17] The desktop is fine but when I load OpenOffice.org Writer, the menus and text on the GUI are garbled. [02:17] No. I've got it set to None for the keyboard. [02:18] I've got the locale set to USA English all around. [02:18] hmm seems like those two programs are affected, have you tried asking for support in their channels? [02:18] The programs function otherwise but in different ways. [02:19] I'm trying to figure out which font they defualt to because it looks as if it's displaying null characters for the text. [02:20] Initially I only had a partially installed locale. I've installed the English Locale completely now but that didn't seem to fix the problem completely. [02:22] I googled for solutions on the respective Wikis of those two programs but the only thing I can think of that they would have in common is Gnome or GTK or something like that. [02:27] you can try removing the .Abisuite and .openoffice files in your home folder - which would remove the configs - logout and back in and open each and check if they're fixed [02:27] Good idea! Thanks! I'll try that! [02:45] I think my system is more scrambled than I thought. I almost couldn't log back in. [02:46] doesn't sound good... [02:49] The only thing that seems out of place though, is one particular font. Besides the login issues, that is. [02:51] When I first log in, there is a garbled indicator at the upper-right part of the screen. I think it's trying to tell me that it logged in to the internet with eth0. [02:51] I would do in terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to see if it pulls in the necessaries [02:51] Ok. I'll try that also. [02:52] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:53] k [02:53] what's the font issue? [02:53] When I try AbiWord, the menus are fine but what I type is garbled. [02:54] When I try OpenOffice.org Writer, the menus are garbled but what I type is fine. [02:54] heh [02:54] * SamuraiCrow is scratching his head with this one. [02:56] have you rebooted since this issue came up? - I'm thinking font cache issue [02:56] Yes I have. Repeatedly. [02:56] there's a command to renew the font cache but it escapes me atm [02:56] k [02:57] not using a weird font ? - tried changing font in each app? [02:58] When I use the drop-down font changer in OpenOffice.org Writer, each font appears scrambled. [02:58] But when I type in the document it works as one would expect it to work. [02:59] That's why I thought it was a Locale isssue. [02:59] as a test I would select one and see what happens - if that doesn't work all I can suggest is to apt-get purge each app and reinstall [03:00] I've tried that with OpenOffice.org already. [03:01] ok - what locales are installed - do you know? [03:02] All of the English ones and none other. [03:04] it's an odd situation [03:05] let's see what google tells us :) [03:06] are the ttf fonts installed SamuraiCrow ? [03:06] Hmmm... My system may be low on RAM. I wouldn't think that would cause this odd behavior though. [03:07] abiword is a low resource app [03:07] I installed the Windows fonts but when I type in AbiWord using Times New Roman it still appears scrambled. [03:11] and this happens when you start fresh in abiword - don't load a file into it? [03:11] Correct. [03:14] seems using deju-vu font is a fix for some SamuraiCrow [03:14] Ok. I'll try that. [03:15] Highlighting the text and changing the font to DejaVu Serif makes no difference. [03:17] k [03:19] only thing now i can offer is sudo apt-get remove --purge abiword and then reinstall it - the --purge is important [03:22] Ok. I'll try that. And if you need it, I just made a snapshot of the OpenOffice.org menus using GIMP. [03:25] apart from the install of each app being borked I don't know what it'll be - if fonts are fine elsewhere [03:27] I just purged and reinstalled AbiWord. No change. [03:27] Is there a way to check for bad sectors on my hard drive? [03:28] Maybe it's just one particular library that's borked. [03:33] I know there's e2fsck - but you need to unmount the partition to use it - and afaik it doesn't report ba sectors but man e2fsck might give a clue on that - I use it from a livecd the rare times I have needed it [03:33] s/ba/bad [03:34] Well, I suppose I've tried everything else. [03:34] it is weird... [03:35] and only two apps [03:35] Well, it's more than those two apps, though. Some requesters are scrambled also. [03:36] what are you calling requesters? [03:36] For example, when I change fonts in AbiWord, the little box that shows the font preview is scrambled. And the notification box that lets you know when the internet logs in on eth0. [03:38] Then there's the issue of not being able to log in normally. [03:39] sounds like it might be the default font for the system then - you can change that in the settings for the theme iirc [03:39] try serif maybe [03:39] Ok. I'll try that. [03:42] Changing to Serif 10 made some fonts on the screen change, but AbiWord still shows garbled text. [03:42] I am trying to fix my mbr after I installed Xubuntu. I want to uninstall grub but I am not sure if I am doing this right and I want to make sure before I proceed [03:43] it must be the office apps build then - are you using lucid beta? [03:43] I want to recover windows mbr [03:44] No. I'm on Karmik. [03:44] I have a tutorial but something is not making sense [03:44] ToStItOs: that's fixmbr from the windows cd iirc - ##windows will know for sure [03:46] SamuraiCrow: I'm sorry but have no more suggestions... [03:46] I'll try e2fsck from the live CD. Maybe that will tell us what's wrong. [03:46] Ok but the part where I select either D:\mini.ini which is option 1 or is it c:\windows option 2 [03:47] according to the tutorial it said to choose option 1 http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/06/08/howto-how-to-erase-un-install-grub-from-mbr-to-restore-windowsdos-bootloader/ [03:47] oh ok gotch [03:48] ToStItOs: I would guess c: - but that is a guess - try in ##windows it is their speciality :) [03:48] ok thanks === Guest18235 is now known as psycho_oreos [04:25] how can i change the xfce menu hover delay? submenus are popping up too quick for me [04:32] mertle: thanx for your help [05:33] hello [05:34] what time of the day is it for others right now? [05:35] @now utc [05:35] Current time in Etc/UTC: April 11 2010, 04:35:46 [05:37] thanks. I was trying to be polite....:-) [05:39] currently trying to troubleshoot a sound problem on my father's box. has anyone been aware of issues with the latest patches/updates? [05:40] which version of xubuntu [05:45] 9.10 2.6.31-20-generic [05:45] GNOME 2.28.1 running on AMD Athlon XP 1500+ [05:46] with 750 MB of RAM [06:00] sound card is Soundblaster Live! Value which has worked fine in this box until the latest update today. [07:24] good morning xubuntu... [08:17] hello [08:17] howdy... [08:18] fine thx,:) is it possible to run windows application, exe file, in linux? [08:18] wine [08:18] dosbox [08:18] vmware,virtualbox,qemu,etc [08:19] these are the applications for doing it, hatake_kakashi? [08:19] depends on what sort of program it is [08:19] intervoip.com client [08:19] probably wine [08:20] i cant dowload their linux client from their webpage [08:20] ok, thank you for help [08:20] you should complain to them for making you use wine and hope that it'll work [08:21] its not easy to contact them at all [08:21] they written they wont answer to any question [08:22] then why are you using their crappy product? [08:22] its cheap to make intl. calls [08:22] im new to linux [08:22] before i had used it in xp [08:22] mm cheap [08:23] at least half the skype's rates [08:23] well try running it in wine, and fix broken deps if any.. if no dice, you'll probably need something like vmware or virtualbox [08:24] when Im stuck I'll come here for help:) [08:24] it always works!:) [08:24] -_- [08:25] !xubuntu [08:25] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [08:40] hi everyone [08:41] hi [08:42] welcome to xubuntu [09:22] good morning! maybe some has some experience with my issiue or can give me a hint - my desktoplinks, which are used to work with kde don't work under xfce - except for one (wxmaxima)! i checked all permissions and settings and compared them to the working wxmaxima but i can't dinf the mistake http://pastebin.com/c865y5kn [09:24] hatake_kakashi: i couldnt open the .exe file with wine, it crashed, while opening:( [09:25] probably missing desp [09:25] deps* [09:26] which means? [09:26] run it under terminal and fix up required deps? [09:27] how can i do this? [09:27] ask in #winehq [09:27] which command [09:27] ok [09:27] on this server? [09:28] yes:) [09:40] please can somebody support me? the desktop links i used with kde don't work with xfce. when i open them with dolphin filemanager they work. but when i click them on the desktop or open them with any other file browser, they dont work :( http://pastebin.com/c865y5kn [10:42] I have a question [10:43] shoot [10:43] after I upgraded to lucid (beta) [10:43] and after I downloaded kde [10:43] my firefox settings were all reset [10:43] I lost my bookmarks and my addons and my themes [10:43] I thought it might be the profile name [10:44] so I ran it with -P but it was the default profile [10:45] any ideas? [10:45] i am certain you're question is about to happen... [10:46] it does not surprise me that the changes occured, considering all the changes that happened. [10:47] did you start with xubuntu or ubuntu...before the kde thing? [10:54] is there any good java ide for xubuntu??? [10:55] netbeans [10:55] i`ve only got 192mb ram.......... [10:55] well I have an old pc running with that, I'm sure I could get it working [10:55] can i?? [10:56] ;-)oh..thanks [10:56] :-* [10:56] I get this error -GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem. [10:56] so no sound... [10:56] getting start!!! [10:56] I think there is a method to use your swap file for java too [10:57] I forget tho you can use your swap file to directly run a java program or something. man that's gonna bother me now [10:58] ahh yes here it is [10:58] ben1: check it out http://support.adobe.com/devsup/devsup.nsf/docs/52634.htm [10:58] oh!ok [10:59] you can allocate more memory for whatever java program you're running by using a swap file for java [11:00] There is an easier and more complete method than what is posted there, but I can't freakin remember. [11:00] I had problems launching pms-linux on my older computer a while back and I had to do something similar. [11:00] :-Dthat`s very king of you:) [11:01] good luck! [11:02] ah well I forget sorry I couldn't help you more. [11:02] oh!come on......... [11:02] ben1: I found something even better http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/performance/jvm-tuning.xtp [11:03] i`ll go and see it.. [11:03] well [11:04] or even use java -Xms or XmX then "your java code" [11:04] i`ll go and get some eat... [11:04] the memory size after your Xms I think but first you need to create a swap file [11:05] ok.. [11:05] to increase your ram and then send to java [11:05] alright go eat [11:05] :-D [11:05] I'm about too also [11:05] :-D [11:05] spend money I don't have [11:05] :-D [11:06] good bye!see you later. [11:06] bye [11:08] hasemj, my 1st thought was to use a live cd to do a recovery...but i am not sure if that type of repair is strictly for the core OS stuff...or if it would also get your settings back....when you do it, it will offer you a few choices. prolly cant hurt to try? maybe a better xubuntu tech could elaborate. [11:15] well hasenj assuming you didnt back the stuff up in antoher folder... [11:15] the FF stuff is stored in the home directory hasenj [11:16] it'd be in ~/.mozilla/firefox hasenj [11:16] k, I'll look there [11:16] there will be a random profile folder in there, all the settings and bookmarks are in there [11:17] it's best to use the xmarks extension to store your bookmarks [11:17] settings, well, only choice there is to back up that profile stuff in another folder [11:18] wow .. looks like it's all gone [11:18] doesn't the upgrader place .bak files ? [11:19] hmmm one moment [11:21] i dont hink upgrading wipes out those files? [11:21] look harder [11:21] but i am no expert... [11:21] where in hte heck is sysi! [11:21] the* [11:23] well, when lucid was alpha it changed settings randomly [11:23] yikes [11:25] hasenj: you installed the kubuntu-desktop package? [11:25] yea [11:25] is that bad? :/ [11:25] shouldn't be [11:27] officially lucid help is at #ubuntu+1 [11:34] changing settings randomly...who's idea was that! [11:36] alpha [11:41] sheez [12:25] Hi all [12:25] hi [12:27] out of curiosity, how long should a xt4 filesystem take in a 80gb PATA drive that had WinXP on it? [12:28] take for what? [12:28] to format/install? [12:29] shouldn't be long generally, up to 10 minutes if its really bad [12:30] hmmmm [12:30] I'm sure there's a quick format [12:30] yeah. I might need to check the connections - it's telling me it's there but not installing it [12:31] if you're familiar with CLI tools, with some bit of tinkering around you can probably get it to work [12:32] I'm a little bit familliar, what sort of stuff are you talking about? [12:32] stuff like fdisk [12:32] lspci [12:33] dmesg [12:34] does anybody know how I can find out what my wifi connection is called. I am trying to configure conky and it's not working on wlan0. [12:34] check under network manager I suppose [12:34] fdisk -l gives no output [12:34] when I check "edit connections" it lists my wired connection as lan0, but wifi is "Auto wifi" [12:35] check under connection information [12:35] lee_: maybe a bad disk check dmesg [12:35] shit, that was obvious. Thanks a lot, I hadn't checked there. Got it [12:36] no worries [12:36] dmesg is giving me media error [12:36] so I'm assuming that it's a bad disk or bad connections :) [12:37] media error could also mean other storage/optical drives [12:37] a bad disk though would usually be either silent or make funny noises [12:37] sda? [12:37] sda could be anything but not floppy [12:38] I'm running the install of a usb key with 10.04 [12:38] !lucid [12:38] Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [12:39] yup. I know :) [12:39] it's running fine on my laptop though :) [12:40] doesn't mean anything, its not supported and I don't know why you're here when you're meant to be asking in #ubuntu+i [12:41] err #ubuntu+1 [12:41] ahhh, fairy nuff :) I didn't know that :) [12:41] I'll go d/l 9.10 and try again :) [12:41] more like xubuntu [12:43] I must admit, I do like xubuntu more than kubuntu or ubuntu :) [12:59] i like xubutu the best by far [14:47] is it possible to run win app not only with wine [14:47] ? [14:47] what i wanted didnt work with wine [15:52] hi [17:07] hola hola [17:08] raga mi sapete dire come faccio a installare xubuntu da una penna usb? [17:08] sul netbook non ho il lettore [17:08] !it [17:08] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [19:19] I remembered now [19:19] when I ran firefox in kde [19:19] it asked me whether I wanted to "import firefox 3.5 settings" or use default firefox settings [19:19] I didn't know what that was so I chose to use default! [19:20] good thing, I have a .mozilla/firefox.3.5-replaced directory [19:20] basically the backup it kept for me :P [19:25] oh that was the funny thing, with kde comes some weird firefox installer [19:26] kde's weird anyway [19:27] 4.4 on pretty ok [19:33] :P [19:33] on==is? [19:34] had to remove gnome-media package to get rid of the ugly audio mixer [19:34] oops [19:35] there just isn't any advantage to xfce, so why to use heavier [19:35] and i hate most kde/qt programs [19:35] vlc and virtualbox are good qt apps [19:36] that's pretty much about it. [19:37] amarok 1.x series used to rock. i don't care about 2.x [19:37] kate is weird [19:56] i cannot establish dsl connection with the network manager [19:56] can smb help me, please? === Nancy is now known as Guest23307 === Guest23307 is now known as tuvok302Lappy [21:08] help, after I had to set my BIOS to default settings, because I set my RAM conf too high, I checked my Xubuntu for errors manually....after that it started but my panels are gone [21:09] !panels [21:09] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [21:09] aaaaaaaaaaaaaah [21:10] thank you sooooo much Sysi ! :-) *hugs* [21:10] that's soo common problem :/ [21:10] happens often [21:11] yeah...I dont understand how that can happen after I checked for inconsistencis....stange thing....WIn XP started without a problem.. [21:11] (notice to me: never set the BIOS RAM settings so "turbo") [21:11] to [21:17] How can I tell nautilus to use the same "list" showing on every directory? [21:17] you know you have the views: "symbols" "list" and "compact" ... [21:22] solved [22:21] Anyone arond? [22:25] hmm, one minute wait [22:34] n8 [22:42] where does the startup script of for xubuntu ???? i try copying the xinitrc to /xfce4 folder but when i start i'm mmissing my function [22:45] hello [22:51] I all I gotta little question, probably something easy I'm overlooking, but I can't find the keyboard shortcuts for KDE [22:51] hexdump_, you should ask #kubuntu for kde [22:51] I can't find the area to set shortcuts, I know where it is in gnome but... [22:51] how do i add wicd to the task bar? [22:52] and where is the startup script for xubuntu? [22:52] knome: I tried, but I think everybody is busy. I'll just hang out for a little it then. [22:52] man I'm really tore up [22:53] hexdump_, check system settings [22:53] okie, I'll have a look see [22:53] then keyboard and mouse [22:54] on the left side u should see standard keyoard shortcuts or global keyboard shortcuts [22:54] nope, but I'll poke around a little bit more. [22:54] ah wait here we go [22:54] crashdata, did you install wicd already? [22:54] apt-get install wicd [22:55] crashdata, right click on panel and add wicd [22:55] "add new items" [22:55] done that doesnt exist on the list [22:55] how do i add wicd to that lsit? where is the script for that? [22:55] I'm just trying to add a shortcut key for my konsole thas all [22:55] did you add notification area then? [22:56] yes [22:57] then i don't have any more ideas [22:57] maybe run wicd? (alt+f2->'wicd') ? [22:57] this is how my desktop looks like [22:57] http://yfrog.com/bascreenshotnup [22:58] knome, i got wicd to work [22:58] but i jsut want it added to the taskbar [22:59] i don't use wicd so i don't know how it's supposed to work [22:59] maybe try adding xfapplet [23:00] do u know wehre the startup script is located? [23:00] xubuntu, block sooo much stuff.... [23:00] to edit... [23:00] y would ubuntu do this to linux :( [23:01] its more like windows [23:08] crashdata, applications -> settings -> session and startup -> tab application autostart [23:10] ah well I don't think I can set shortcuts for my konsole. I dunno can't get it woking. [23:11] hexdump_, is that in kde or xfce? [23:11] KDE [23:11] there isn't any option to set konsole as a shortcut [23:11] knome, thanks [23:12] hexdump_, please do ask #kubuntu. there is no kde experts here. [23:12] ah okie, sorry bout that bro [23:12] knome, but u dont happen to know where is the script is located? [23:13] crashdata, no, i don't know how to add a shortcut in kde. [23:13] not asking shortcut in kde [23:13] thats hexdump [23:13] oh. [23:13] :P [23:13] sorry... [23:13] np :) [23:15] the xfce gui way should work [23:16]