[00:00] <mertle> hasenj: maybe lucid has diff startup apps -idk - iirc .config is where the autostart apps are
[00:00] <mertle> but if you didn't back it up...
[00:01] <hasenj> what .config?
[00:01] <hasenj> somewhere in /etc/sessions or something like that?
[00:01] <mertle> hasenj: no in your home folder
[00:02] <hasenj> hmm
[00:03] <mertle> hasenj: ctrl+h to show hidden folders
[00:03] <hasenj> yea I'm in it
[00:04] <hasenj> no file there is called xubuntu
[00:05] <hexdump_> hey all, just got a lil question here...
[00:05] <hexdump_> how can I update packages in xubuntu with only the command line
[00:05] <mertle> hasenj: but like I said if you didn't back it up when upgrading it prob got overwritten so the old configs won't be there
[00:05] <vinnl> hexdump_, sudo apt-get update to update the package list
[00:05] <hasenj> it might still be in the xfce session
[00:05] <mertle> it would be xfsession or autostart iirc
[00:05] <vinnl> sudo apt-get upgrade to get the newest packages I believe
[00:05] <vinnl> !apt-get
[00:05] <hasenj> ok
[00:06] <hexdump_> vinnl:  I've done that, but it keeps telling me there are updates
[00:07] <hexdump_> I'm using ssh and I don't have gui
[00:08] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[00:08] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: from my experience, aptitude can hande dependencies best... i sue it as deflault over apt-get
[00:09] <hexdump_> I got it it's sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:09] <hexdump_> Benkinooby:  thanks buddy
[00:09] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: np
[00:09] <hexdump_> so sudo aptitude safe-upgrade works as well?
[00:10] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: yes... as i said... i trust aptitude more than apt-get
[00:10] <hexdump_> I'm running my web server with no window manager because it eats up resources
[00:10] <hexdump_> well I could just try aptitude afterwards and it wouldn't hurt anything would it
[00:12] <hexdump_> I'm gonna give it a go
[00:12] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: just do it... after you updated with apt-get there should be nothingto be done for aptitude
[00:13] <hexdump_> Bekinooby:  Well I tried it and it's upgrading.  Is it just overwriting the previous updates?
[00:13] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: also, you can install a gui (which can be a very fast and small windowmanager too). only becuase you instlled it, you dont need to use it
[00:14] <hexdump_> I know I turned off my gui.  changed gdm.conf to gdm.no
[00:14] <hexdump_> heh heh
[00:14] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: :)
[00:16] <hexdump_> I really like ubuntu, that's what I use on my primary computer (My desktop) but I would have liked to try BSD for my server or CentOS maybe I dunno.
[00:16] <hexdump_> but wait, ubuntu has a server version that I should have used.
[00:20] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: usually, for servers debian or redhat is first choice
[00:21] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: also ubuntu derives from debian, so they have many things in common
[00:21] <Benkinooby> hexdump_: if you want to learn more about linux/bsd/solaris feel free to choose... gentoo is the one for ultimate knowledge... and pain ;)
[00:25] <hexdump_> Bekinooby:  thanks, I've been messing around with a lot of different distros recently.
[00:28] <hexdump_> Benkinooby:  alright I'll be back later some time.
[01:47] <Benkinooby> hi again, can some1 help me. my desktoplinks, which are used to work with kde don't work under xfce - except for one (wxmaxima)! i checked all permissions and settings and compared them to the working wxmaxima but i can't dinf the mistake http://pastebin.com/c865y5kn
[02:15] <SamuraiCrow> Hello.  I've got a screwed up locale on my system.  Has anybody heard of such a thing before?
[02:16] <psycho_oreos> hmm I know what locale is but in which part? under xorg?
[02:16] <SamuraiCrow> It only shows up under OpenOffice.org and AbiWord.
[02:17] <psycho_oreos> using scim I suppose?
[02:17] <SamuraiCrow> The desktop is fine but when I load OpenOffice.org Writer, the menus and text on the GUI are garbled.
[02:17] <SamuraiCrow> No.  I've got it set to None for the keyboard.
[02:18] <SamuraiCrow> I've got the locale set to USA English all around.
[02:18] <psycho_oreos> hmm seems like those two programs are affected, have you tried asking for support in their channels?
[02:18] <SamuraiCrow> The programs function otherwise but in different ways.
[02:19] <SamuraiCrow> I'm trying to figure out which font they defualt to because it looks as if it's displaying null characters for the text.
[02:20] <SamuraiCrow> Initially I only had a partially installed locale.  I've installed the English Locale completely now but that didn't seem to fix the problem completely.
[02:22] <SamuraiCrow> I googled for solutions on the respective Wikis of those two programs but the only thing I can think of that they would have in common is Gnome or GTK or something like that.
[02:27] <mertle> you can try removing the .Abisuite and .openoffice files in your home folder - which would remove the configs - logout and back in and open each and check if they're fixed
[02:27] <SamuraiCrow> Good idea!  Thanks!  I'll try that!
[02:45] <SamuraiCrow> I think my system is more scrambled than I thought.  I almost couldn't log back in.
[02:46] <mertle> doesn't sound good...
[02:49] <SamuraiCrow> The only thing that seems out of place though, is one particular font.  Besides the login issues, that is.
[02:51] <SamuraiCrow> When I first log in, there is a garbled indicator at the upper-right part of the screen.  I think it's trying to tell me that it logged in to the internet with eth0.
[02:51] <mertle> I would do in terminal   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   to see if it pulls in the necessaries
[02:51] <SamuraiCrow> Ok.  I'll try that also.
[02:52] <SamuraiCrow> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:53] <mertle> k
[02:53] <mertle> what's the font issue?
[02:53] <SamuraiCrow> When I try AbiWord, the menus are fine but what I type is garbled.
[02:54] <SamuraiCrow> When I try OpenOffice.org Writer, the menus are garbled but what I type is fine.
[02:54] <mertle> heh
[02:54]  * SamuraiCrow is scratching his head with this one.
[02:56] <mertle> have you rebooted since this issue came up? - I'm thinking font cache issue
[02:56] <SamuraiCrow> Yes I have.  Repeatedly.
[02:56] <mertle> there's a command to renew the font cache but it escapes me atm
[02:56] <mertle> k
[02:57] <mertle> not using a weird font ? - tried changing font in each app?
[02:58] <SamuraiCrow> When I use the drop-down font changer in OpenOffice.org Writer, each font appears scrambled.
[02:58] <SamuraiCrow> But when I type in the document it works as one would expect it to work.
[02:59] <SamuraiCrow> That's why I thought it was a Locale isssue.
[02:59] <mertle> as a test I would select one and see what happens - if that doesn't work all I can suggest is to apt-get purge each app and reinstall
[03:00] <SamuraiCrow> I've tried that with OpenOffice.org already.
[03:01] <mertle> ok - what locales are installed - do you know?
[03:02] <SamuraiCrow> All of the English ones and none other.
[03:04] <mertle> it's an odd situation
[03:05] <mertle> let's see what google tells us :)
[03:06] <mertle> are the ttf fonts installed SamuraiCrow ?
[03:06] <SamuraiCrow> Hmmm... My system may be low on RAM.  I wouldn't think that would cause this odd behavior though.
[03:07] <mertle> abiword is a low resource app
[03:07] <SamuraiCrow> I installed the Windows fonts but when I type in AbiWord using Times New Roman it still appears scrambled.
[03:11] <mertle> and this happens when you start fresh in abiword - don't load a file into it?
[03:11] <SamuraiCrow> Correct.
[03:14] <mertle> seems using deju-vu font is a fix for some SamuraiCrow
[03:14] <SamuraiCrow> Ok.  I'll try that.
[03:15] <SamuraiCrow> Highlighting the text and changing the font to DejaVu Serif makes no difference.
[03:17] <mertle> k
[03:19] <mertle> only thing now i can offer is   sudo apt-get remove --purge abiword    and then reinstall it - the --purge is important
[03:22] <SamuraiCrow> Ok.  I'll try that.  And if you need it, I just made a snapshot of the OpenOffice.org menus using GIMP.
[03:25] <mertle> apart from the install of each app being borked I don't know what it'll be - if fonts are fine elsewhere
[03:27] <SamuraiCrow> I just purged and reinstalled AbiWord.  No change.
[03:27] <SamuraiCrow> Is there a way to check for bad sectors on my hard drive?
[03:28] <SamuraiCrow> Maybe it's just one particular library that's borked.
[03:33] <mertle> I know there's e2fsck - but you need to unmount the partition to use it - and afaik it doesn't report ba sectors but man e2fsck might give a clue on that - I use it from a livecd the rare times I have needed it
[03:33] <mertle> s/ba/bad
[03:34] <SamuraiCrow> Well, I suppose I've tried everything else.
[03:34] <mertle> it is weird...
[03:35] <mertle> and only two apps
[03:35] <SamuraiCrow> Well, it's more than those two apps, though.  Some requesters are scrambled also.
[03:36] <mertle> what are you calling requesters?
[03:36] <SamuraiCrow> For example, when I change fonts in AbiWord, the little box that shows the font preview is scrambled.  And the notification box that lets you know when the internet logs in on eth0.
[03:38] <SamuraiCrow> Then there's the issue of not being able to log in normally.
[03:39] <mertle> sounds like it might be the default font for the system then - you can change that in the settings for the theme iirc
[03:39] <mertle> try serif maybe
[03:39] <SamuraiCrow> Ok.  I'll try that.
[03:42] <SamuraiCrow> Changing to Serif 10 made some fonts on the screen change, but AbiWord still shows garbled text.
[03:42] <ToStItOs> I am trying to fix my mbr after I installed Xubuntu. I want to uninstall grub but I am not sure if I am doing this right and I want to make sure before I proceed
[03:43] <mertle> it must be the office apps build then - are you using lucid beta?
[03:43] <ToStItOs> I want to recover windows mbr
[03:44] <SamuraiCrow> No.  I'm on Karmik.
[03:44] <ToStItOs> I have a tutorial but something is not making sense
[03:44] <mertle> ToStItOs: that's fixmbr from the windows cd iirc - ##windows will know for sure
[03:46] <mertle> SamuraiCrow: I'm sorry but have no more suggestions...
[03:46] <SamuraiCrow> I'll try e2fsck from the live CD.  Maybe that will tell us what's wrong.
[03:46] <ToStItOs> Ok but the part where I select either D:\mini.ini which is option 1 or is it c:\windows option 2
[03:47] <ToStItOs> according to the tutorial it said to choose option 1 http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/06/08/howto-how-to-erase-un-install-grub-from-mbr-to-restore-windowsdos-bootloader/
[03:47] <ToStItOs> oh ok gotch
[03:48] <mertle> ToStItOs: I would guess c: - but that is a guess - try in ##windows it is their speciality :)
[03:48] <ToStItOs> ok thanks
[04:25] <scopecreep> how can i change the xfce menu hover delay? submenus are popping up too quick for me
[04:32] <ToStItOs> mertle: thanx for your help
[05:33] <Guest44021> hello
[05:34] <Guest44021> what time of the day is it for others right now?
[05:35] <bazhang> @now utc
[05:37] <Guest44021> thanks.  I was trying to be polite....:-)
[05:39] <Guest44021> currently trying to troubleshoot a sound problem on my father's box.  has anyone been aware of issues with the latest patches/updates?
[05:40] <bazhang> which version of xubuntu
[05:45] <Guest44021> 9.10     2.6.31-20-generic
[05:45] <Guest44021> GNOME 2.28.1    running on AMD Athlon XP 1500+
[05:46] <Guest44021> with 750 MB of RAM
[06:00] <Guest44021> sound card is Soundblaster Live! Value which has worked fine in this box until the latest update today.
[07:24] <Balsaq> good morning xubuntu...
[08:17] <Arpad2> hello
[08:17] <Balsaq> howdy...
[08:18] <Arpad2> fine thx,:)   is it possible to run windows application, exe file, in linux?
[08:18] <hatake_kakashi> wine
[08:18] <hatake_kakashi> dosbox
[08:18] <hatake_kakashi> vmware,virtualbox,qemu,etc
[08:19] <Arpad2> these are the applications for doing it, hatake_kakashi?
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> depends on what sort of program it is
[08:19] <Arpad2> intervoip.com client
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> probably wine
[08:20] <Arpad2> i cant dowload their linux client from their webpage
[08:20] <Arpad2> ok, thank you for help
[08:20] <hatake_kakashi> you should complain to them for making you use wine and hope that it'll work
[08:21] <Arpad2> its not easy to contact them at all
[08:21] <Arpad2> they written they wont answer to any question
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> then why are you using their crappy product?
[08:22] <Arpad2> its cheap to make intl. calls
[08:22] <Arpad2> im new to linux
[08:22] <Arpad2> before i had used it in xp
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> mm cheap
[08:23] <Arpad2> at least half the skype's rates
[08:23] <hatake_kakashi> well try running it in wine, and fix broken deps if any.. if no dice, you'll probably need something like vmware or virtualbox
[08:24] <Arpad2> when Im stuck I'll come here for help:)
[08:24] <Arpad2> it always works!:)
[08:24] <hatake_kakashi> -_-
[08:25] <hatake_kakashi> !xubuntu
[08:40] <hasenj> hi everyone
[08:41] <hatake_kakashi> hi
[08:42] <Balsaq> welcome to xubuntu
[09:22] <Benkinooby> good morning! maybe some has some experience with my issiue or can give me a hint - my desktoplinks, which are used to work with kde don't work under xfce - except for one (wxmaxima)! i checked all permissions and settings and compared them to the working wxmaxima but i can't dinf the mistake http://pastebin.com/c865y5kn
[09:24] <Arpad2> hatake_kakashi: i couldnt open the .exe file with wine, it crashed, while opening:(
[09:25] <hatake_kakashi> probably missing desp
[09:25] <hatake_kakashi> deps*
[09:26] <Arpad2> which means?
[09:26] <hatake_kakashi> run it under terminal and fix up required deps?
[09:27] <Arpad2> how can i  do this?
[09:27] <hatake_kakashi> ask in #winehq
[09:27] <Arpad2> which command
[09:27] <Arpad2> ok
[09:27] <Arpad2> on this server?
[09:28] <Arpad2> yes:)
[09:40] <Benkinooby> please can somebody support me? the desktop links i used with kde don't work with xfce. when i open them with dolphin filemanager they work. but when i click them on the desktop or open them with any other file browser, they dont work :( http://pastebin.com/c865y5kn
[10:42] <hasenj> I have a question
[10:43] <Balsaq> shoot
[10:43] <hasenj> after I upgraded to lucid (beta)
[10:43] <hasenj> and after I downloaded kde
[10:43] <hasenj> my firefox settings were all reset
[10:43] <hasenj> I lost my bookmarks and my addons and my themes
[10:43] <hasenj> I thought it might be the profile name
[10:44] <hasenj> so I ran it with -P but it was the default profile
[10:45] <hasenj> any ideas?
[10:45] <Balsaq> i am certain you're question is about to happen...
[10:46] <Balsaq> it does not surprise me that the changes occured, considering all the changes that happened.
[10:47] <Balsaq> did you start with xubuntu or ubuntu...before the kde thing?
[10:54] <ben1> is there any good java ide for xubuntu???
[10:55] <hexdump_> netbeans
[10:55] <ben1> i`ve only got 192mb ram..........
[10:55] <hexdump_> well I have an old pc running with that, I'm sure I could get it working
[10:55] <ben1> can i??
[10:56] <ben1> ;-)oh..thanks
[10:56] <ben1> :-*
[10:56] <mnmnb> I get this error -GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem.
[10:56] <mnmnb> so no sound...
[10:56] <ben1> getting start!!!
[10:56] <hexdump_> I think there is a method to use your swap file for java too
[10:57] <hexdump_> I forget tho you can use your swap file to directly run a java program or something.  man that's gonna bother me now
[10:58] <hexdump_> ahh yes here it is
[10:58] <hexdump_> ben1:  check it out http://support.adobe.com/devsup/devsup.nsf/docs/52634.htm
[10:58] <ben1> oh!ok
[10:59] <hexdump_> you can allocate more memory for whatever java program you're running by using a swap file for java
[11:00] <hexdump_> There is an easier and more complete method than what is posted there, but I can't freakin remember.
[11:00] <hexdump_> I had problems launching pms-linux on my older computer a while back and I had to do something similar.
[11:00] <ben1> :-Dthat`s very king of you:)
[11:01] <ben1> good luck!
[11:02] <hexdump_> ah well I forget sorry I couldn't help you more.
[11:02] <ben1> oh!come on.........
[11:02] <hexdump_> ben1:  I found something even better http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/performance/jvm-tuning.xtp
[11:03] <ben1> i`ll go and see it..
[11:03] <ben1> well
[11:04] <hexdump_> or even use java -Xms or XmX then "your java code"
[11:04] <ben1> i`ll go and get some eat...
[11:04] <hexdump_> the memory size after your Xms I think but first you need to create a swap file
[11:05] <ben1> ok..
[11:05] <hexdump_> to increase your ram and then send to java
[11:05] <hexdump_> alright go eat
[11:05] <ben1> :-D
[11:05] <hexdump_> I'm about too also
[11:05] <ben1> :-D
[11:05] <hexdump_> spend money I don't have
[11:05] <ben1> :-D
[11:06] <ben1> good bye!see you later.
[11:06] <hexdump_> bye
[11:08] <Balsaq> hasemj, my 1st thought was to use a live cd to do a recovery...but i am not sure if that type of repair is strictly for the core OS stuff...or if it would also get your settings back....when you do it, it will offer  you a few choices. prolly cant hurt to try? maybe a better xubuntu tech could elaborate.
[11:15] <Balsaq> well hasenj assuming you didnt back the stuff up in antoher folder...
[11:15] <Balsaq>  the FF stuff is stored in the home directory hasenj
[11:16] <Balsaq> it'd be in ~/.mozilla/firefox hasenj
[11:16] <hasenj> k, I'll look there
[11:16] <Balsaq> there will be a random profile folder in there, all the settings and bookmarks are in there
[11:17] <Balsaq> it's best to use the xmarks extension to store your bookmarks
[11:17] <Balsaq> settings, well, only choice there is to back up that profile stuff in another folder
[11:18] <hasenj> wow .. looks like it's all gone
[11:18] <hasenj> doesn't the upgrader place .bak files ?
[11:19] <Balsaq> hmmm one moment
[11:21] <Balsaq> i dont hink upgrading wipes out those files?
[11:21] <Balsaq> look harder
[11:21] <Balsaq> but i am no expert...
[11:21] <Balsaq> where in hte heck is sysi!
[11:21] <Balsaq> the*
[11:23] <Sysi> well, when lucid was alpha it changed settings randomly
[11:23] <Balsaq> yikes
[11:25] <Sysi> hasenj: you installed the kubuntu-desktop package?
[11:25] <hasenj> yea
[11:25] <hasenj> is that bad? :/
[11:25] <Sysi> shouldn't be
[11:27] <Sysi> officially lucid help is at #ubuntu+1
[11:34] <Balsaq> changing settings randomly...who's idea was that!
[11:36] <Sysi> alpha
[11:41] <Balsaq> sheez
[12:25] <lee_> Hi all
[12:25] <psycho_oreos> hi
[12:27] <lee_> out of curiosity, how long should a xt4 filesystem take in a 80gb PATA drive that had WinXP on it?
[12:28] <psycho_oreos> take for what?
[12:28] <lee_> to format/install?
[12:29] <psycho_oreos> shouldn't be long generally, up to 10 minutes if its really bad
[12:30] <lee_> hmmmm
[12:30] <psycho_oreos> I'm sure there's a quick format
[12:30] <lee_> yeah.  I might need to check the connections - it's telling me it's there but not installing it
[12:31] <psycho_oreos> if you're familiar with CLI tools, with some bit of tinkering around you can probably get it to work
[12:32] <lee_> I'm a little bit familliar, what sort of stuff are you talking about?
[12:32] <psycho_oreos> stuff like fdisk
[12:32] <psycho_oreos> lspci
[12:33] <psycho_oreos> dmesg
[12:34] <clfman> does anybody know how I can find out what my wifi connection is called. I am trying to configure conky and it's not working on wlan0.
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> check under network manager I suppose
[12:34] <lee_> fdisk -l gives no output
[12:34] <clfman> when I check "edit connections" it lists my wired connection as lan0, but wifi is "Auto wifi"
[12:35] <psycho_oreos> check under connection information
[12:35] <psycho_oreos> lee_: maybe a bad disk check dmesg
[12:35] <clfman> shit, that was obvious. Thanks a lot, I hadn't checked there. Got it
[12:36] <psycho_oreos> no worries
[12:36] <lee_> dmesg is giving me media error
[12:36] <lee_> so I'm assuming that it's a bad disk or bad connections :)
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> media error could also mean other storage/optical drives
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> a bad disk though would usually be either silent or make funny noises
[12:37] <lee_> sda?
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> sda could be anything but not floppy
[12:38] <lee_> I'm running the install of a usb key with  10.04
[12:38] <psycho_oreos> !lucid
[12:39] <lee_> yup. I know :)
[12:39] <lee_> it's running fine on my laptop though :)
[12:40] <psycho_oreos> doesn't mean anything, its not supported and I don't know why you're here when you're meant to be asking in #ubuntu+i
[12:41] <psycho_oreos> err #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <lee_> ahhh, fairy nuff :) I didn't know that :)
[12:41] <lee_> I'll go d/l 9.10 and try again :)
[12:41] <psycho_oreos> more like xubuntu
[12:43] <lee_> I must admit, I do like xubuntu more than kubuntu or ubuntu :)
[12:59] <Balsaq> i like xubutu the best by far
[14:47] <Arpad2>  is it possible to run win app not only with wine
[14:47] <Arpad2> ?
[14:47] <Arpad2> what i wanted didnt work with wine
[15:52] <slow-motion> hi
[17:07] <CriSiS> hola hola
[17:08] <CriSiS> raga mi sapete dire come faccio a installare xubuntu da una penna usb?
[17:08] <CriSiS> sul netbook non ho il lettore
[17:08] <Sysi> !it
[19:19] <hasenj_> I remembered now
[19:19] <hasenj_> when I ran firefox in kde
[19:19] <hasenj_> it asked me whether I wanted to "import firefox 3.5 settings" or use default firefox settings
[19:19] <hasenj_> I didn't know what that was so I chose to use default!
[19:20] <hasenj_> good thing, I have a .mozilla/firefox.3.5-replaced directory
[19:20] <hasenj_> basically the backup it kept for me :P
[19:25] <Sysi> oh that was the funny thing, with kde comes some weird firefox installer
[19:26] <knome> kde's weird anyway
[19:27] <Sysi> 4.4 on pretty ok
[19:33] <knome> :P
[19:33] <knome> on==is?
[19:34] <knome> had to remove gnome-media package to get rid of the ugly audio mixer
[19:34] <Sysi> oops
[19:35] <Sysi> there just isn't any advantage to xfce, so why to use heavier
[19:35] <Sysi> and i hate most kde/qt programs
[19:35] <knome> vlc and virtualbox are good qt apps
[19:36] <knome> that's pretty much about it.
[19:37] <knome> amarok 1.x series used to rock. i don't care about 2.x
[19:37] <Sysi> kate is weird
[19:56] <Arpad2> i cannot establish dsl connection with the network manager
[19:56] <Arpad2> can smb help me, please?
[21:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> help, after I had to set my BIOS to default settings, because I set my RAM conf too high, I checked my Xubuntu for errors manually....after that it started but my panels are gone
[21:09] <Sysi> !panels
[21:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[21:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> thank you sooooo much Sysi ! :-) *hugs*
[21:10] <Sysi> that's soo common problem :/
[21:10] <Sysi> happens often
[21:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah...I dont understand how that can happen after I checked for inconsistencis....stange thing....WIn XP started without a problem..
[21:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> (notice to me: never set the BIOS RAM settings so "turbo")
[21:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> to
[21:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> How can I tell nautilus to use the same "list" showing on every directory?
[21:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> you know you have the views: "symbols" "list" and "compact" ...
[21:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> solved
[22:21] <Khaos> Anyone arond?
[22:25] <knome> hmm, one minute wait
[22:34] <slow-motion> n8
[22:42] <crashdata> where does the startup script of for xubuntu ???? i try copying the xinitrc to /xfce4 folder but when i start i'm mmissing my function
[22:45] <crashdata> hello
[22:51] <hexdump_> I all I gotta little question, probably something easy I'm overlooking, but I can't find the keyboard shortcuts for KDE
[22:51] <knome> hexdump_, you should ask #kubuntu for kde
[22:51] <hexdump_> I can't find the area to set shortcuts, I know where it is in gnome but...
[22:51] <crashdata> how do i add wicd to the task bar?
[22:52] <crashdata> and where is the startup script for xubuntu?
[22:52] <hexdump_> knome:  I tried, but I think everybody is busy.  I'll just hang out for a little it then.
[22:52] <hexdump_> man I'm really tore up
[22:53] <crashdata> hexdump_, check system settings
[22:53] <hexdump_> okie, I'll have a look see
[22:53] <crashdata> then keyboard and mouse
[22:54] <crashdata> on the left side u should see standard keyoard shortcuts or global keyboard shortcuts
[22:54] <hexdump_> nope, but I'll poke around a little bit more.
[22:54] <hexdump_> ah wait here we go
[22:54] <knome> crashdata, did you install wicd already?
[22:54] <crashdata> apt-get install wicd
[22:55] <knome> crashdata, right click on panel and add wicd
[22:55] <knome> "add new items"
[22:55] <crashdata> done that doesnt exist on the list
[22:55] <crashdata> how do i add wicd to that lsit? where is the script for that?
[22:55] <hexdump_> I'm just trying to add a shortcut key for my konsole thas all
[22:55] <knome> did you add notification area then?
[22:56] <crashdata> yes
[22:57] <knome> then i don't have any more ideas
[22:57] <knome> maybe run wicd? (alt+f2->'wicd') ?
[22:57] <crashdata> this is how my desktop looks like
[22:57] <crashdata> http://yfrog.com/bascreenshotnup
[22:58] <crashdata> knome, i got wicd to work
[22:58] <crashdata> but i jsut want it added to the taskbar
[22:59] <knome> i don't use wicd so i don't know how it's supposed to work
[22:59] <knome> maybe try adding xfapplet
[23:00] <crashdata> do u know wehre the startup script is located?
[23:00] <crashdata> xubuntu, block sooo much stuff....
[23:00] <crashdata> to edit...
[23:00] <crashdata> y would ubuntu do this to linux :(
[23:01] <crashdata> its more like windows
[23:08] <knome> crashdata, applications -> settings -> session and startup -> tab application autostart
[23:10] <hexdump_> ah well I don't think I can set shortcuts for my konsole.  I dunno can't get it woking.
[23:11] <knome> hexdump_, is that in kde or xfce?
[23:11] <hexdump_> KDE
[23:11] <hexdump_> there isn't any option to set konsole as a shortcut
[23:11] <crashdata> knome, thanks
[23:12] <knome> hexdump_, please do ask #kubuntu. there is no kde experts here.
[23:12] <hexdump_> ah okie, sorry bout that bro
[23:12] <crashdata> knome, but u dont happen to know where is the script is located?
[23:13] <knome> crashdata, no, i don't know how to add a shortcut in kde.
[23:13] <crashdata> not asking shortcut in kde
[23:13] <crashdata> thats hexdump
[23:13] <knome> oh.
[23:13] <knome> :P
[23:13] <knome> sorry...
[23:13] <crashdata> np :)
[23:15] <knome> the xfce gui way should work
[23:16] <Sysi> what kind of script you're talking about?
[23:16] <knome> night now
[23:16] <knome> Sysi, don't stay up too late kid!
[23:16] <knome> :)
[23:16] <Sysi> no school tomorrow
[23:16] <knome> work @8.30
[23:19] <Sysi> ~/.config/autostart/ i assume