| ZachK_ | DarkwingDuck: ping | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| DarkwingDuck | ZachK_: pong | 00:05 |
| ZachK_ | DarkwingDuck: please pm me | 00:05 |
| ghostofmybrain | how would I reinstall all the lib tools? | 01:48 |
| Motig | Hey, are there any downsides to using the .exe installer to install Ubuntu? | 01:53 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: ah let me see | 02:03 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: are you referring to Wubi? | 02:04 |
| Motig | Err... I think so. | 02:05 |
| ZachK_ | http://wubi-installer.org/ is this it? | 02:08 |
| nomnex | ZachK_, Wubi creates a virtual partition inside windoze. it is slower than having a dual boot install | 02:09 |
| ZachK_ | nomnex: this indeed do I know | 02:09 |
| ZachK_ | nomnex: i'm just trying to make sure of what he is referring to | 02:09 |
| nomnex | ZachK_, sorry the comment was for Motig | 02:09 |
| ZachK_ | nomnex: ok.. | 02:10 |
| nomnex | and yes, he is doing some confusion here | 02:11 |
| ZachK_ | nomnex: meaning? | 02:11 |
| Motig | ZachK_, I found it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi But I guess it's the same | 02:11 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: it is the same yes | 02:12 |
| nomnex | ZachK_, wubi for "using the .exe" | 02:12 |
| Motig | nomnex said it was slower? | 02:12 |
| Motig | Slower to install, or it runs slower? | 02:12 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: it is a bit yes...runs slower in my opinion | 02:13 |
| nomnex | Motig, run slower | 02:13 |
| Motig | Hmm | 02:13 |
| Motig | I would rather wait to get a blank CD then | 02:13 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: and while dualbooting isn't the fastest way either it is a bit faster than Wubi | 02:13 |
| nomnex | Motig, what are you looking for? | 02:13 |
| ZachK_ | Personally I just run Ubuntu by itself on an external hardrive while keeping Windows on a drive all by it's lonesome | 02:14 |
| Motig | I want to run Ubuntu on this laptop. Dual booting is what I want to do, because I want to keep Windows until I like Ubuntu | 02:14 |
| Motig | I have two hard drives on this laptop | 02:14 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: do you have an external drive? | 02:14 |
| Motig | Um, I do, but it has my music on | 02:14 |
| ZachK_ | nigelb: WELCOME DUDE! | 02:14 |
| Motig | And is probably slower than a real HDD | 02:14 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: actually it's about the same.. | 02:15 |
| ZachK_ | I should know as I've done it a few different ways. Running an OS that is | 02:15 |
| Motig | You mean to run Ubuntu on the external one? Or install it only from there? | 02:15 |
| ZachK_ | I've done VM, External Drive, Dual Boot. | 02:15 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: I mean running Ubuntu from an external drive | 02:15 |
| ZachK_ | completely | 02:15 |
| Motig | My external drive cannot be as fast as a real one :p | 02:16 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: you'd be surprised | 02:16 |
| nomnex | Motig, wubi is fine for your purpose. when you like it, delete the v.part and dual boot install | 02:16 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: but like I said...it's your preference | 02:16 |
| Motig | hmm. | 02:16 |
| Motig | I will buy a blank CD I think | 02:17 |
| nomnex | Motig, keep in mind that 10.04 is a few weeks aways before installing | 02:17 |
| Motig | How hard is it to update it? | 02:17 |
| nomnex | Motig, don't | 02:17 |
| Motig | Don't upgrade? | 02:17 |
| nomnex | Motig, update is the recipe for troubles | 02:17 |
| Motig | But doesn't Ubuntu update all the time? | 02:18 |
| nomnex | Motig, that's different | 02:18 |
| ZachK_ | Motig: updating the drives and file systems is a HECK of a lot different than updating the entire SYSTEM | 02:18 |
| Motig | I think I read somewhere that the system updates once every 6 months? | 02:19 |
| Motig | The kernel, right? | 02:19 |
| nomnex | Motig, the Ubuntu distribution 9.10, 10.04, 10.10 etc | 02:19 |
| Motig | Errr | 02:20 |
| Motig | 2009/10, 2010/04 etc. you mean? | 02:20 |
| nomnex | Motig, correct | 02:20 |
| Motig | So yes, that means within 6 months my OS will be old? D: | 02:21 |
| Motig | I thought Linux was meant to be better at this :} | 02:21 |
| nomnex | Motig, 10.04 is a LTS version it is supported for 2 years (stable) the others are dev. version (unstable), but you can use them too | 02:21 |
| Motig | Ah, right. | 02:22 |
| Motig | That's better | 02:22 |
| Motig | :} | 02:22 |
| nomnex | Motig, I would recommend a bit or reading beforehand | 02:22 |
| Motig | About what? | 02:22 |
| nomnex | Motig, Ubuntu, Linux | 02:22 |
| nomnex | Motig, using Windoze now? | 02:23 |
| Motig | Yes | 02:23 |
| nomnex | win7? | 02:23 |
| Motig | Vista | 02:23 |
| nomnex | ubuntu 9.10? | 02:23 |
| Motig | Don't use Ubuntu atm | 02:24 |
| nomnex | but you said you want to try it, so what's your image? | 02:24 |
| Motig | I don't have one... | 02:24 |
| nomnex | it's still 9.10 on the downl. page | 02:24 |
| nomnex | from the 29 of April there going to be the 10.04, a LTS (stable) Ubuntu version | 02:25 |
| nomnex | might be good to wait a bit if you can | 02:25 |
| Motig | Ok. | 02:25 |
| nomnex | the diff between a Stable release and a dev. release is the testing period | 02:25 |
| nomnex | plus these version are maintained for 2 years (updates) | 02:26 |
| Motig | Okay, thanks. | 02:27 |
| Motig | I'll read about Linux. | 02:28 |
| nomnex | it's recommended to wait a bit when a new distro comes out (a few weeks or so) | 02:28 |
| nomnex | so the new bugs can be ironed out | 02:28 |
| nomnex | what's you notebook make? | 02:28 |
| === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 | ||
| Motig | Vaio | 02:30 |
| Motig | Err | 02:30 |
| nomnex | Motig, there a bit of learning curve at the beginning, but it worths it. I hope you will like it. | 02:30 |
| Motig | Well I've tried Ubuntu before | 02:30 |
| Motig | But I hated it | 02:30 |
| Motig | But I decided maybe I had a bad start | 02:30 |
| Motig | So I want to try it again | 02:31 |
| nomnex | Motig, hardware issues? | 02:31 |
| Motig | No, literally found no help | 02:31 |
| Motig | Didn't know what was going on | 02:31 |
| Motig | Everything I found on Google was full of jargon | 02:31 |
| nomnex | Motig, wait a sec. | 02:31 |
| Motig | I am totally new to Linux, these tutorials didn't get that; they used stuff like "grub" and "sudo" and "gnome" without even explaining them | 02:32 |
| Motig | I now know what these are | 02:32 |
| Motig | But I grew tired of it :} | 02:32 |
| Motig | And when you see no advantage over Windows... You give up :P | 02:32 |
| nomnex | Motig? | 02:32 |
| Motig | Yep> | 02:32 |
| nomnex | http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html -- free guide | 02:32 |
| nomnex | Motig, .pdf or hard copy, it's a good start to have an idea of Ubuntu linux | 02:33 |
| Motig | I see. | 02:33 |
| Motig | Does it assume you know other Linux distros? | 02:33 |
| Motig | 'Cause I know nothing of linux | 02:33 |
| nomnex | No, that's for Ubuntu | 02:33 |
| Motig | No, I mean | 02:33 |
| Motig | Do I need to know anything about linux | 02:34 |
| Motig | Atall | 02:34 |
| nomnex | no, that's why I recommend you this free book | 02:34 |
| Motig | Okay, thank you | 02:34 |
| Motig | Oh, free? | 02:34 |
| Motig | Oh, yes | 02:34 |
| nomnex | yes, many people will tell you the same around here about this book | 02:34 |
| Motig | Okay I'll jsut read it then ^^ | 02:34 |
| nomnex | yes, only the hard copy has a fee | 02:34 |
| nomnex | Motig, if you get by Linux (any distro) you will never use or want to use Windoze again | 02:35 |
| Motig | I am a gamer... | 02:35 |
| nomnex | Oh, then that's different, you stick to windoze for the gaming part | 02:36 |
| nomnex | Motig, what games? | 02:36 |
| Motig | Hmm | 02:36 |
| Motig | UT2004, BF:BC2... Err | 02:36 |
| Motig | Lemme think | 02:36 |
| Motig | I know UT2k4 actually runs on Linux | 02:36 |
| Motig | I doubt BF does | 02:37 |
| nomnex | Batt. field, that's right | 02:37 |
| Motig | hmm | 02:38 |
| Motig | Tbh though | 02:38 |
| Motig | I don't game on this laptop | 02:38 |
| Motig | I use it to make games, though | 02:38 |
| Motig | And work | 02:38 |
| Motig | :} | 02:38 |
| nomnex | so Linux will do | 02:39 |
| Motig | Yes. | 02:40 |
| man0riaX | Morning | 05:26 |
| paultag | Hallo man0riaX, wie geht's ? | 05:30 |
| man0riaX | paultag: Gut, und dir? | 05:30 |
| paultag | man0riaX, mir geht es gut! Ich bin ein bisschen mude, aber gehts gut :) | 05:31 |
| man0riaX | 6:30AM here and I have school in about an hour. :D | 05:31 |
| paultag | man0riaX, way too early for me :) | 05:31 |
| man0riaX | paultag: Well, yes. But since this is my last week ever I have to go there, I don't expect anything to work much | 05:32 |
| paultag | man0riaX, Gymnasium? | 05:32 |
| paultag | man0riaX, congrats :) Have you taken the arbitur ( not sure on how to spell it ) ? | 05:32 |
| man0riaX | paultag: Yes, Gymnasium. My Abitur exams start by the beginning of next week | 05:33 |
| paultag | man0riaX, Math first, then English, if I recall, right? | 05:33 |
| man0riaX | paultag: Monday Electrics Engineering, Friday Math, the week after (I don't know the exact day yet :D) English and at the beginning of May religion | 05:35 |
| man0riaX | Even though I don't believe in God I have chosen religion to be 4th exam :D | 05:36 |
| paultag | man0riaX, I would do the same, I think :) | 05:36 |
| paultag | man0riaX, I love studying religion. I don't like the idea much, but I like learning about them :) | 05:36 |
| man0riaX | Ye (: | 05:36 |
| man0riaX | I have only done much for Math and EE yet…I think I can handle English :D | 05:39 |
| paultag | I think so as well man0riaX, your English is very good :) | 05:39 |
| paultag | man0riaX, Have you seen the film Brüno? It's an American film | 05:39 |
| man0riaX | Ya | 05:39 |
| paultag | man0riaX, I just watched it for the first time tonight | 05:40 |
| paultag | man0riaX, I don't know how ANYONE could think his accent was German | 05:40 |
| man0riaX | My bus arrives in 3 minutes so I gotta go. | 05:40 |
| man0riaX | Well | 05:40 |
| paultag | eeeeeecsh | 05:40 |
| man0riaX | Yes | 05:40 |
| man0riaX | :D | 05:40 |
| paultag | man0riaX, Viel glük! | 05:40 |
| paultag | man0riaX, Tschuss :) | 05:40 |
| man0riaX | See ya later | 05:40 |
| === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock | ||
| smeag0l | good morning / evening everybody welcome leoquant | 10:34 |
| st4aluck | @women | 10:37 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | Can anyone tell me how to install adobe flash player 10 for 64bit? | 10:49 |
| Akos | hi ZeRoDeAtH50435 | 10:59 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | hey | 10:59 |
| Akos | ZeRoDeAtH50435: read this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#64-bit%20Firefox%20and%2032-bit%20Flash%20plugin%20%28Officially%20supported%20by%20Ubuntu%20to%20the%20extent%20possible%20with%20Flash%29 | 11:01 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | thanks | 11:01 |
| Akos | my pleasure | 11:03 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | will not work | 11:11 |
| Akos | ZeRoDeAtH50435: any errors you're getting? | 11:15 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | 404 not found | 11:15 |
| Akos | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins | 11:16 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | do you know the command for installing restricted software | 11:17 |
| Akos | ZeRoDeAtH50435: it depends on what do you want to installed | 11:18 |
| Akos | *-d | 11:18 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | well I used it to install adobe on 9.10 64bit | 11:18 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | it was the only way it would work | 11:19 |
| duanedesign | 'lo all | 11:38 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | hey | 11:38 |
| duanedesign | hello ZeRoDeAtH50435 | 11:38 |
| duanedesign | ZeRoDeAtH50435: did you get Flash installed ok | 11:42 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | yeah I just got it | 11:42 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | now I need to install adobe reader | 11:44 |
| === smeag0l is now known as NKataDelGormo | ||
| === NKataDelGormo is now known as smeagol | ||
| === smeagol is now known as smeag0l | ||
| C-Ray | Hello! I need an Offline English Dictionary for Ubuntu 9.10. Any suggestions? | 13:52 |
| C-Ray1 | ok I found it | 14:07 |
| C-Ray1 | thanks | 14:07 |
| C-Ray1 | goldendic is the answer | 14:07 |
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| === mohi_away is now known as mohi1 | ||
| === mohi1 is now known as mohi_away | ||
| michae1 | trying to install zimbra desktop beta 2 and am getting permissions denied. can anyone tell me where I can find instructional on how to correct? | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | michae1: are you using sudo? | 19:37 |
| michae1 | yeah. and it installs it to root, not user ( me ) | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | where are you getting permission denied? | 19:38 |
| michae1 | after I run the user-install.pl and open / access the app. | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | open / ? | 19:40 |
| michae1 | there's a lock on the desktop icon ( open ) and a lock on the directory in /opt ( access ) | 19:40 |
| michae1 | when I try either, I get the permissions denied message. | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | unfortunately I don't know much about zimbra and telling you to arbitrarily chmod things until the user can run them would be unwise | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | is there install documentation that came with it? | 19:42 |
| michae1 | nope. | 19:42 |
| michae1 | followed the directions on the zimbra forum right up until it mentioned "it's a permissions issue" but didn't ellaborate on how to adjust accordingly. | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | http://www.zimbra.com/forums/installation-help/38181-zd-2-0-beta-linux-installation-f12.html seems to have some tips (search for user-install.pl) | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | "chmod" is the command to change permissions on something, so to give all users read access you'd do something like: chmod o+r file.pl | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | execute would be o+x (o == other users not in the file's group, so everyone), x == execute, r == read | 19:45 |
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| michae1 | be right back - got an idea... | 19:47 |
| michae1 | last question for the session - is there a resource available that illustrates how to see what permissions are set where for who ( kind of a global permissions search )? | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | you can figure it out per file, but you'd have to write a little script for something globally | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | for the single file: | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | elizabeth@r2d2:~$ ls -alh test/check.sh | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | -rw-r--r-- 1 elizabeth video 184 2009-04-13 11:18 test/check.sh | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | so it's read write for the owner (u), elizabeth, readable by the group video (g) and readable by everyone else (o) | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | michae1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions | 19:55 |
| michae1 | pleia2: yeah... uh... got through the first couple of lines and my eyes crossed. guess I need to find a dumbed down version for me who's trying to break away from the death clutch of winblows. | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | michae1: if you open up gnome's file manager and click on "properties" of a file it should also show you permissions | 19:59 |
| michae1 | pleia2: are you still available? | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | michae1: somewhat, am at work :) what's up? | 20:11 |
| michae1 | pleia2: never mind. know you got stuff to do to... will look more into chmod - zdesktop directory in my home direcotry is accessible only by root and me thinkst that's where the problem may lie... | 20:12 |
| michae1 | thanks for the insight. | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | perhaps, feel free to ask your questions anyway, there may be others here who can help :) | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | good luck | 20:13 |
| michae1 | what the worse that can happen. I'll have to reload the box... | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | yeah, hopefully you can avoid that | 20:14 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | can anyone tell me the command to install a Brother MFC-255CW printer/scanner on 64bit | 20:14 |
| michae1 | hey - it's not aiwndows box, so it's not like it's gonna go lurch on me. most of this is reverse engineer-fixable. | 20:15 |
| PabloRubianes | hi... anyone know how to... | 20:26 |
| PabloRubianes | I am asking something in name of a guy from uruguay... | 20:27 |
| PabloRubianes | Network problem | 20:27 |
| PabloRubianes | someone here? | 20:27 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | yeah | 20:27 |
| PabloRubianes | :-) | 20:28 |
| PabloRubianes | the thing is... | 20:28 |
| PabloRubianes | He has a server connected to internet via wireless modem | 20:28 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | ok | 20:28 |
| PabloRubianes | that server is also connected to a router | 20:28 |
| PabloRubianes | and the router to other clients | 20:29 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | ok | 20:29 |
| PabloRubianes | he can see the server from the clients but he want to share the internet access | 20:29 |
| PabloRubianes | there's any way? | 20:29 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | so the sever is wireless but the other computer connections are wired | 20:29 |
| PabloRubianes | the only wireless is de modem | 20:30 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | share how | 20:30 |
| PabloRubianes | but that works | 20:30 |
| PabloRubianes | share as have internet access in the clients | 20:30 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | so the clients can not access the internet | 20:31 |
| PabloRubianes | no | 20:31 |
| PabloRubianes | that's the problem | 20:31 |
| PabloRubianes | the clients only access to the server | 20:32 |
| PabloRubianes | duanedesign: ping :P | 20:32 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | so they can access the server but not the internet | 20:33 |
| PabloRubianes | yes | 20:33 |
| ZeRoDeAtH50435 | are the client computers setup to access the internet though a server | 20:33 |
| PabloRubianes | don't know that, what he had to setup to do that? | 20:35 |
| PabloRubianes | so I ask him... | 20:35 |
| cliff | I was wondering if there was anyway I could set up the keyboard shortcuts to a command that includes the compose key. This is hard to explain but I'll try. Suppose what I want for the shortcut to be is every time I press: winkey + a, the result (command) is: compose + ' + a, (which yields the result á). This would be very useful cause it takes the effort from 3 keys I press to 2. Does any1 have any idea if this is possible? | 20:37 |
| PabloRubianes | cliff: have you tried System- prefference- key conbination? | 20:39 |
| PabloRubianes | I don't know if is key combination because I have and spanish version... | 20:39 |
| cliff | I really dont know what that is, can u show me? | 20:40 |
| pedro3005 | PabloRubianes, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts | 20:41 |
| PabloRubianes | That one... Sorry I have the spanish version! | 20:41 |
| PabloRubianes | thanks pedro3005 | 20:41 |
| cliff | I just dont know how to write the command for: comp. + ' + a in the keyboard shortcuts to create as a custom... | 20:42 |
| cliff | I can already write and use comp key, its just thaat i need to use 3 keys to write á or ñ, etc and was wondering if I could shorten it with a keyboard shortcut down to 2... | 20:43 |
| pedro3005 | cliff, hm.. well, try asking on ubuntuforums.org | 20:45 |
| cliff | I just did, right now... I dont know if it helps, but in what language are the commands written in? Maybe I can google it up as a command for the language it uses... | 20:48 |
| cliff | I'm just looking to see if I get lucky and it ends up being something like: print á or cout << "á" or something like that... | 20:50 |
| michae1 | pleia2: thank you...thank you...thank you. took me a while, but finally figured out how to get the chmod to work allowing me access to the zdesktop directory and being able to FINALLLY launch the app. did I say thank you? | 20:55 |
| pleia2 | michae1: hooray! you're welcome :) | 20:55 |
| michae1 | well, fortunately no blood, more sweat than I care for and almost came to tears!!! thank you for your help and patience and sorry for bothering you at work ( again ). | 20:56 |
| pleia2 | no worries, glad to hear you got it figured out | 20:56 |
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| === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock | ||
| drew212 | i need some help getting my printer back online after upgrading to 10.04, anyone available? | 22:21 |
| drubin | drew212: what is your printer make and model | 22:31 |
| drew212 | hp psc950 | 22:36 |
| drew212 | it worked in 9.10 | 22:36 |
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