[00:05] DarkwingDuck: ping [00:05] ZachK_: pong [00:05] DarkwingDuck: please pm me [01:48] how would I reinstall all the lib tools? [01:53] Hey, are there any downsides to using the .exe installer to install Ubuntu? [02:03] Motig: ah let me see [02:04] Motig: are you referring to Wubi? [02:05] Err... I think so. [02:08] http://wubi-installer.org/ is this it? [02:09] ZachK_, Wubi creates a virtual partition inside windoze. it is slower than having a dual boot install [02:09] nomnex: this indeed do I know [02:09] nomnex: i'm just trying to make sure of what he is referring to [02:09] ZachK_, sorry the comment was for Motig [02:10] nomnex: ok.. [02:11] and yes, he is doing some confusion here [02:11] nomnex: meaning? [02:11] ZachK_, I found it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi But I guess it's the same [02:12] Motig: it is the same yes [02:12] ZachK_, wubi for "using the .exe" [02:12] nomnex said it was slower? [02:12] Slower to install, or it runs slower? [02:13] Motig: it is a bit yes...runs slower in my opinion [02:13] Motig, run slower [02:13] Hmm [02:13] I would rather wait to get a blank CD then [02:13] Motig: and while dualbooting isn't the fastest way either it is a bit faster than Wubi [02:13] Motig, what are you looking for? [02:14] Personally I just run Ubuntu by itself on an external hardrive while keeping Windows on a drive all by it's lonesome [02:14] I want to run Ubuntu on this laptop. Dual booting is what I want to do, because I want to keep Windows until I like Ubuntu [02:14] I have two hard drives on this laptop [02:14] Motig: do you have an external drive? [02:14] Um, I do, but it has my music on [02:14] nigelb: WELCOME DUDE! [02:14] And is probably slower than a real HDD [02:15] Motig: actually it's about the same.. [02:15] I should know as I've done it a few different ways. Running an OS that is [02:15] You mean to run Ubuntu on the external one? Or install it only from there? [02:15] I've done VM, External Drive, Dual Boot. [02:15] Motig: I mean running Ubuntu from an external drive [02:15] completely [02:16] My external drive cannot be as fast as a real one :p [02:16] Motig: you'd be surprised [02:16] Motig, wubi is fine for your purpose. when you like it, delete the v.part and dual boot install [02:16] Motig: but like I said...it's your preference [02:16] hmm. [02:17] I will buy a blank CD I think [02:17] Motig, keep in mind that 10.04 is a few weeks aways before installing [02:17] How hard is it to update it? [02:17] Motig, don't [02:17] Don't upgrade? [02:17] Motig, update is the recipe for troubles [02:18] But doesn't Ubuntu update all the time? [02:18] Motig, that's different [02:18] Motig: updating the drives and file systems is a HECK of a lot different than updating the entire SYSTEM [02:19] I think I read somewhere that the system updates once every 6 months? [02:19] The kernel, right? [02:19] Motig, the Ubuntu distribution 9.10, 10.04, 10.10 etc [02:20] Errr [02:20] 2009/10, 2010/04 etc. you mean? [02:20] Motig, correct [02:21] So yes, that means within 6 months my OS will be old? D: [02:21] I thought Linux was meant to be better at this :} [02:21] Motig, 10.04 is a LTS version it is supported for 2 years (stable) the others are dev. version (unstable), but you can use them too [02:22] Ah, right. [02:22] That's better [02:22] :} [02:22] Motig, I would recommend a bit or reading beforehand [02:22] About what? [02:22] Motig, Ubuntu, Linux [02:23] Motig, using Windoze now? [02:23] Yes [02:23] win7? [02:23] Vista [02:23] ubuntu 9.10? [02:24] Don't use Ubuntu atm [02:24] but you said you want to try it, so what's your image? [02:24] I don't have one... [02:24] it's still 9.10 on the downl. page [02:25] from the 29 of April there going to be the 10.04, a LTS (stable) Ubuntu version [02:25] might be good to wait a bit if you can [02:25] Ok. [02:25] the diff between a Stable release and a dev. release is the testing period [02:26] plus these version are maintained for 2 years (updates) [02:27] Okay, thanks. [02:28] I'll read about Linux. [02:28] it's recommended to wait a bit when a new distro comes out (a few weeks or so) [02:28] so the new bugs can be ironed out [02:28] what's you notebook make? === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [02:30] Vaio [02:30] Err [02:30] Motig, there a bit of learning curve at the beginning, but it worths it. I hope you will like it. [02:30] Well I've tried Ubuntu before [02:30] But I hated it [02:30] But I decided maybe I had a bad start [02:31] So I want to try it again [02:31] Motig, hardware issues? [02:31] No, literally found no help [02:31] Didn't know what was going on [02:31] Everything I found on Google was full of jargon [02:31] Motig, wait a sec. [02:32] I am totally new to Linux, these tutorials didn't get that; they used stuff like "grub" and "sudo" and "gnome" without even explaining them [02:32] I now know what these are [02:32] But I grew tired of it :} [02:32] And when you see no advantage over Windows... You give up :P [02:32] Motig? [02:32] Yep> [02:32] http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html -- free guide [02:33] Motig, .pdf or hard copy, it's a good start to have an idea of Ubuntu linux [02:33] I see. [02:33] Does it assume you know other Linux distros? [02:33] 'Cause I know nothing of linux [02:33] No, that's for Ubuntu [02:33] No, I mean [02:34] Do I need to know anything about linux [02:34] Atall [02:34] no, that's why I recommend you this free book [02:34] Okay, thank you [02:34] Oh, free? [02:34] Oh, yes [02:34] yes, many people will tell you the same around here about this book [02:34] Okay I'll jsut read it then ^^ [02:34] yes, only the hard copy has a fee [02:35] Motig, if you get by Linux (any distro) you will never use or want to use Windoze again [02:35] I am a gamer... [02:36] Oh, then that's different, you stick to windoze for the gaming part [02:36] Motig, what games? [02:36] Hmm [02:36] UT2004, BF:BC2... Err [02:36] Lemme think [02:36] I know UT2k4 actually runs on Linux [02:37] I doubt BF does [02:37] Batt. field, that's right [02:38] hmm [02:38] Tbh though [02:38] I don't game on this laptop [02:38] I use it to make games, though [02:38] And work [02:38] :} [02:39] so Linux will do [02:40] Yes. [05:26] Morning [05:30] Hallo man0riaX, wie geht's ? [05:30] paultag: Gut, und dir? [05:31] man0riaX, mir geht es gut! Ich bin ein bisschen mude, aber gehts gut :) [05:31] 6:30AM here and I have school in about an hour. :D [05:31] man0riaX, way too early for me :) [05:32] paultag: Well, yes. But since this is my last week ever I have to go there, I don't expect anything to work much [05:32] man0riaX, Gymnasium? [05:32] man0riaX, congrats :) Have you taken the arbitur ( not sure on how to spell it ) ? [05:33] paultag: Yes, Gymnasium. My Abitur exams start by the beginning of next week [05:33] man0riaX, Math first, then English, if I recall, right? [05:35] paultag: Monday Electrics Engineering, Friday Math, the week after (I don't know the exact day yet :D) English and at the beginning of May religion [05:36] Even though I don't believe in God I have chosen religion to be 4th exam :D [05:36] man0riaX, I would do the same, I think :) [05:36] man0riaX, I love studying religion. I don't like the idea much, but I like learning about them :) [05:36] Ye (: [05:39] I have only done much for Math and EE yet…I think I can handle English :D [05:39] I think so as well man0riaX, your English is very good :) [05:39] man0riaX, Have you seen the film Brüno? It's an American film [05:39] Ya [05:40] man0riaX, I just watched it for the first time tonight [05:40] man0riaX, I don't know how ANYONE could think his accent was German [05:40] My bus arrives in 3 minutes so I gotta go. [05:40] Well [05:40] eeeeeecsh [05:40] Yes [05:40] :D [05:40] man0riaX, Viel glük! [05:40] man0riaX, Tschuss :) [05:40] See ya later === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock [10:34] good morning / evening everybody welcome leoquant [10:37] @women [10:49] Can anyone tell me how to install adobe flash player 10 for 64bit? [10:59] hi ZeRoDeAtH50435 [10:59] hey [11:01] ZeRoDeAtH50435: read this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#64-bit%20Firefox%20and%2032-bit%20Flash%20plugin%20%28Officially%20supported%20by%20Ubuntu%20to%20the%20extent%20possible%20with%20Flash%29 [11:01] thanks [11:03] my pleasure [11:11] will not work [11:15] ZeRoDeAtH50435: any errors you're getting? [11:15] 404 not found [11:16] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins [11:17] do you know the command for installing restricted software [11:18] ZeRoDeAtH50435: it depends on what do you want to installed [11:18] *-d [11:18] well I used it to install adobe on 9.10 64bit [11:19] it was the only way it would work [11:38] 'lo all [11:38] hey [11:38] hello ZeRoDeAtH50435 [11:42] ZeRoDeAtH50435: did you get Flash installed ok [11:42] yeah I just got it [11:44] now I need to install adobe reader === smeag0l is now known as NKataDelGormo === NKataDelGormo is now known as smeagol === smeagol is now known as smeag0l [13:52] Hello! I need an Offline English Dictionary for Ubuntu 9.10. Any suggestions? [14:07] ok I found it [14:07] thanks [14:07] goldendic is the answer === Guest55509 is now known as celthunder === mohi_away is now known as mohi1 === mohi1 is now known as mohi_away [19:37] trying to install zimbra desktop beta 2 and am getting permissions denied. can anyone tell me where I can find instructional on how to correct? [19:37] michae1: are you using sudo? [19:38] yeah. and it installs it to root, not user ( me ) [19:38] where are you getting permission denied? [19:39] after I run the user-install.pl and open / access the app. [19:40] open / ? [19:40] there's a lock on the desktop icon ( open ) and a lock on the directory in /opt ( access ) [19:40] when I try either, I get the permissions denied message. [19:41] unfortunately I don't know much about zimbra and telling you to arbitrarily chmod things until the user can run them would be unwise [19:42] is there install documentation that came with it? [19:42] nope. [19:43] followed the directions on the zimbra forum right up until it mentioned "it's a permissions issue" but didn't ellaborate on how to adjust accordingly. [19:43] http://www.zimbra.com/forums/installation-help/38181-zd-2-0-beta-linux-installation-f12.html seems to have some tips (search for user-install.pl) [19:44] "chmod" is the command to change permissions on something, so to give all users read access you'd do something like: chmod o+r file.pl [19:45] execute would be o+x (o == other users not in the file's group, so everyone), x == execute, r == read === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock [19:47] be right back - got an idea... [19:50] last question for the session - is there a resource available that illustrates how to see what permissions are set where for who ( kind of a global permissions search )? [19:51] you can figure it out per file, but you'd have to write a little script for something globally [19:53] for the single file: [19:53] elizabeth@r2d2:~$ ls -alh test/check.sh [19:53] -rw-r--r-- 1 elizabeth video 184 2009-04-13 11:18 test/check.sh [19:53] so it's read write for the owner (u), elizabeth, readable by the group video (g) and readable by everyone else (o) [19:55] michae1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [19:58] pleia2: yeah... uh... got through the first couple of lines and my eyes crossed. guess I need to find a dumbed down version for me who's trying to break away from the death clutch of winblows. [19:59] michae1: if you open up gnome's file manager and click on "properties" of a file it should also show you permissions [20:10] pleia2: are you still available? [20:11] michae1: somewhat, am at work :) what's up? [20:12] pleia2: never mind. know you got stuff to do to... will look more into chmod - zdesktop directory in my home direcotry is accessible only by root and me thinkst that's where the problem may lie... [20:12] thanks for the insight. [20:13] perhaps, feel free to ask your questions anyway, there may be others here who can help :) [20:13] good luck [20:13] what the worse that can happen. I'll have to reload the box... [20:14] yeah, hopefully you can avoid that [20:14] can anyone tell me the command to install a Brother MFC-255CW printer/scanner on 64bit [20:15] hey - it's not aiwndows box, so it's not like it's gonna go lurch on me. most of this is reverse engineer-fixable. [20:26] hi... anyone know how to... [20:27] I am asking something in name of a guy from uruguay... [20:27] Network problem [20:27] someone here? [20:27] yeah [20:28] :-) [20:28] the thing is... [20:28] He has a server connected to internet via wireless modem [20:28] ok [20:28] that server is also connected to a router [20:29] and the router to other clients [20:29] ok [20:29] he can see the server from the clients but he want to share the internet access [20:29] there's any way? [20:29] so the sever is wireless but the other computer connections are wired [20:30] the only wireless is de modem [20:30] share how [20:30] but that works [20:30] share as have internet access in the clients [20:31] so the clients can not access the internet [20:31] no [20:31] that's the problem [20:32] the clients only access to the server [20:32] duanedesign: ping :P [20:33] so they can access the server but not the internet [20:33] yes [20:33] are the client computers setup to access the internet though a server [20:35] don't know that, what he had to setup to do that? [20:35] so I ask him... [20:37] I was wondering if there was anyway I could set up the keyboard shortcuts to a command that includes the compose key. This is hard to explain but I'll try. Suppose what I want for the shortcut to be is every time I press: winkey + a, the result (command) is: compose + ' + a, (which yields the result á). This would be very useful cause it takes the effort from 3 keys I press to 2. Does any1 have any idea if this is possible? [20:39] cliff: have you tried System- prefference- key conbination? [20:39] I don't know if is key combination because I have and spanish version... [20:40] I really dont know what that is, can u show me? [20:41] PabloRubianes, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts [20:41] That one... Sorry I have the spanish version! [20:41] thanks pedro3005 [20:42] I just dont know how to write the command for: comp. + ' + a in the keyboard shortcuts to create as a custom... [20:43] I can already write and use comp key, its just thaat i need to use 3 keys to write á or ñ, etc and was wondering if I could shorten it with a keyboard shortcut down to 2... [20:45] cliff, hm.. well, try asking on ubuntuforums.org [20:48] I just did, right now... I dont know if it helps, but in what language are the commands written in? Maybe I can google it up as a command for the language it uses... [20:50] I'm just looking to see if I get lucky and it ends up being something like: print á or cout << "á" or something like that... [20:55] pleia2: thank you...thank you...thank you. took me a while, but finally figured out how to get the chmod to work allowing me access to the zdesktop directory and being able to FINALLLY launch the app. did I say thank you? [20:55] michae1: hooray! you're welcome :) [20:56] well, fortunately no blood, more sweat than I care for and almost came to tears!!! thank you for your help and patience and sorry for bothering you at work ( again ). [20:56] no worries, glad to hear you got it figured out === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock [22:21] i need some help getting my printer back online after upgrading to 10.04, anyone available? [22:31] drew212: what is your printer make and model [22:36] hp psc950 [22:36] it worked in 9.10