[01:38] <zeroseven0183> paging Omer Akram
[05:53] <Damascene> is there any know bug with ubuntu-netbook-launcher partition icon not responding if it's not mounted
[07:17] <Cara> hello
[07:19] <ddecator> Cara: hey
[07:39] <slacker-> Hi, I wanted to file a bug-report with ubuntu-bug but one of the pyton scripts it calls crashes
[07:40] <slacker-> it's a ext4 error, so I ran it with the 'linux' package. When I view the report, it has dmesg.boot at the end but this doesn't include the error I want to refer to
[07:41] <slacker-> should I still send the report?
[07:45] <slacker-> or just go through launchpad?
[07:57] <slacker-> alright, launchpad it is
[08:23] <Laibsch> what is the proper way to fix bug 535132?  One way to deal with this would be for the newer package to conflict on the older, but I'm not sure that is the best way to do this.  I'm thinking about moving /lib/udev/compat_firmware.sh into a separate package.  Opinions?
[08:23] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 535132 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu) "package linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-16-generic-pae 2.6.32-16.6 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/compat_firmware.sh', which is also in package linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-16-generic 0:2.6.32-16.7 (affects: 15) (dups: 4) (heat: 100)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535132
[08:40] <BUGabundo_remote> m0rning
[08:45] <nigelb> BUGabundo_remote, morning and welcome back
[09:04] <BUGabundo_remote> anirgato  nigelb
[09:04] <BUGabundo_remote> its guud to be back
[09:05] <nigelb> BUGabundo_remote, :)
[09:33] <Laibsch> man, bzr sucks even worse than it did before
[09:33]  * Laibsch shudders
[09:34] <nigelb> Laibsch, what happened?
[09:35] <Laibsch> well, nothing too serious.
[09:35] <Laibsch> But after some people advocated bzr and it's LP integration I gave it another chance
[09:36] <Laibsch> my impression now: 1) it's SLOOOOOWW, 2) it's space and bandwidth-waster, 3) it doesn't do the job properly, failing at a simple merge
[09:36] <Laibsch> -> time to put bzr to the dumpster
[09:36] <nigelb> It needs a little getting used to
[09:36] <Laibsch> not me
[09:37] <nigelb> I'm still rusty, but compared to git and svn, I love bzr
[09:37] <Laibsch> 1-3 is IMHO a real killer argument, especially when one considers the excellent alternatives.  I was trying the commands as given by lool.  The commands themselves did not fail, that is not the issue.
[09:38] <Laibsch> except for the merge of course, which failed due to a conflict that doesn't look like a conflict to me
[09:38] <nigelb> ah, I hate that part with any vcs :D
[09:40] <Laibsch> git has been serving me well here.  For quite a while now, it only fails if there is indeed a conflict (or something really complicated is going on, in this case bzr choked on merging -1ubuntu4 and -2 to make it -2ubuntu1 -> inacceptable IMHO)
[09:41] <Laibsch> the "conflict" was in a file that had line1 on the left side and line1+line2 on the right.  how easier than that can a merge be?
[09:41]  * Laibsch ending the rant to go back to to topic
[09:41] <Laibsch> sorry ;-)
[09:41] <nigelb> hehe :)
[09:44] <Laibsch> what is the proper way to fix bug 535132?  One way to deal with this would be for the newer package to conflict on the older, but I'm not sure that is the best way to do this.  I'm thinking about moving /lib/udev/compat_firmware.sh into a separate package.  Opinions?
[09:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 535132 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu) "package linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-16-generic-pae 2.6.32-16.6 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/compat_firmware.sh', which is also in package linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-16-generic 0:2.6.32-16.7 (affects: 15) (dups: 4) (heat: 100)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535132
[09:47]  * nigelb has totally no idea about kernel stuff :(
[09:57] <Laibsch> I don't think this is necessary a kernel-specific question
[09:58]  * Laibsch is not a kernel expert, either
[09:58] <Laibsch> for every kernel release there is the corresponding package linux-backport-modules-wireless
[09:58] <BUGabundo_remote> Laibsch: please take your ideas (not rants) to #bzr. I guess you can actually learn about better and bw optium tips there's
[10:00] <Laibsch> unfortunately, all of them have the file /lib/udev/compat_firmware.sh in them, so if one is installed, you can't install any others.  Upgrades fail as well.
[10:00] <Laibsch> Ways I see to deal with this:
[10:00] <Laibsch> 1) have the latest backports-modules package conflict with earlier versions -> not optimal IMO
[10:01] <Laibsch> 2) move the problematic file into a separate package
[10:01] <Laibsch> 3) other ideas?
[10:01] <nigelb> replace?
[10:01] <Laibsch> that's what I'd like to discuss.  I guess there may a "standard" way to deal with this
[10:01] <Laibsch> nigelb: set "Replaces", you mean?
[10:02] <Laibsch> that's essentially 1)
[10:02] <nigelb> I know. just a different way to implement 1)
[10:02] <Laibsch> what do you do if you have more than one kernel installed?
[10:02] <Laibsch> 1) isn't really the proper way I think
[10:02] <nigelb> someone on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-kernel might have a better idea
[10:02] <Laibsch> yeah, I'll try there
[11:57] <zeroseven0183> ping om26er
[11:57] <om26er> zeroseven0183, hey hello!
[11:58] <zeroseven0183> I sent you a private message
[12:41] <bullgard5> What DEB program package includes the Disk Mounter 2.30.0 applet?
[13:06] <ia> hello. maybe could anyone take a look, please, at #524938 and at some rationale, why this package should be fixed, not removed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libopensync-plugin-syncml/+bug/524938/comments/10
[13:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 524938 in libopensync-plugin-syncml (Ubuntu) "Remove binary "opensync-plugin-syncml" from lucid (affects: 6) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,New]
[13:22] <BUGabundo_remote> bullgard5: gnome-applets ?
[13:56] <zeroseven0183> Hi! I have a question
[13:56] <zeroseven0183> What if someone triaged my bug report, changed some of the details
[13:57] <zeroseven0183> but actually didn't understood the report clearly?
[13:57] <zeroseven0183> What do I need to do?
[13:57] <zeroseven0183> Do I have to changed it back?
[13:58] <charlie-tca> Be better to add a comment, explaining it out.
[14:01] <zeroseven0183> The triager should have asked for more details before changing the contents, right?
[14:07] <charlie-tca> If they did not understand it, yes
[14:07] <charlie-tca> bug?
[14:08] <charlie-tca> zeroseven0183: bug number?
[14:09] <zeroseven0183> bug #561109
[14:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 561109 in gwibber "Please bring back 'Hide taskbar entry' option in gwibber (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561109
[15:50] <ronoc> pedro_: hey there
[15:50] <pedro_> hello ronoc
[15:51] <ronoc> pedro_: I need access to bugs status on launchpad. So most incoming bugs for the sound-indicator are raised against the package and not the upstream project
[15:51] <ronoc> just trying to tidy up
[15:52] <ronoc> pedro_ is this possible
[15:54] <ronoc> pedro_ sorry missed the word *change from the question / request
[15:54] <pedro_> ronoc, you're maintaining that product?
[15:55] <ronoc> pedro_ basically I cannot change the status of the bug to wishlist or mark it as triaged etc.
[15:55] <ronoc> pedro_ yes I maintain the upstream
[15:56] <ronoc> pedro_ understood ?
[15:56] <pedro_> ronoc, ok, what's your launchpad id?
[15:56] <ronoc> cjcurran
[15:56] <ronoc> pedro_ thx
[15:56] <pedro_> ronoc, please also read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage  and if you have any question raise them here or in the mailing list
[15:57] <ronoc> pedro_ will do
[15:58] <pedro_> ronoc, you're all set
[15:58] <ronoc> pedro_ excellent cheers boss
[15:58] <pedro_> no problem ;-)
[16:00] <dnivra> hello. I would like to report a bug. can someone tell me which is the package corresponding to it? when you suspend and resume your computer, the volume becomes full even though it was muted before suspend. which package does it correspond to?
[16:06] <ronoc> dnvira: sounds like a pulseaudio bug
[16:07] <ronoc> dnvira: will try to reproduce
[16:15] <dnivra> ronoc, sorry I didn't reply: it's "dnivra" and not "dnvira". so didn't get a notification. were you able to reproduce it?
[16:16] <ronoc> dnivra: whoops sorry - in the middle something right now, will come back to it a little later
[16:16] <dnivra> ronoc, alright. pulseaudio eh? alright will report it in that. thanks!
[16:18] <ronoc> dnivra: it should save the current level on shutdown/suspend and then use the saved value on resume
[16:19] <dnivra> ronoc, the value is 0 before suspend but full on resume; it's not a display error either-the volume is indeed full-tested by playing a file.
[16:20] <ronoc> dnivra: understood - if you file this bug on the pulseaudio project on launchpad - Daniel/Luke/somebody will pick this up
[16:21] <dnivra> ronoc, it's already reported LP #483900
[16:21] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 483900 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "sound is muted before suspend, but on resume is not muted (affects: 23) (dups: 5)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/483900
[16:21] <dnivra> thanks ubot4`. started thinking if there isn't a bot around for this.
[16:21] <ronoc> dnivra: cool - sorted then :)
[16:22] <dnivra> ronoc, no it isn't- i still have the problem!
[16:24] <ronoc> dnivra: okay well i suppose you need to reopen it.There has been a fair amount of work already carried out so ...
[16:25] <ronoc> i will try to reproduce later - need to finish something else first
[16:25] <dnivra> ronoc, put another comment saying it's still existent. let's see. yeah later is fine: not hard to do it; suspend your machine often and you'll notice it.
[16:25] <kamusin> ping ddecator
[16:29] <hggdh> which package should I use for ecryptfs-utils not being installed with Ubuntu?
[16:35] <mrand> hggdh: are you referring to Bug 544867?
[16:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 544867 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "binary "users-admin" hints using if not installed "ecryptfs-utils" (affects: 2) (dups: 1)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544867
[16:45] <JFo> hey bac just wanted to let you know we are looking into your issue :)
[16:48] <hggdh> mrand, looking at it. What happened is I reinstalled Lucid maintaining /home, and ecryptfs-utils was not installed
[16:49] <hggdh> mrand: resulting in an completely borked Gnome login
[16:50] <hggdh> mrand: not, not the same user case
[16:50] <mrand> hggdh: interesting.  Yeah, that's bad.  And an newish user could get very confused (and concerned).
[16:54] <hggdh> yes, this is my worry
[16:57] <mrand> hggdh: I'm not positive, but I think it might go against ubuntu-meta.  Is it already included on the disk and is simply not installed by default?  I think the actual change would be to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.lucid
[16:58] <hggdh> mrand: thank you, I will open a bug on it
[18:06] <bac> hi jfo
[18:06] <JFo> hi bac :)
[18:06] <bac> JFo: thanks for the note.  i should update that bug to note that apw's test kernel solved the issue
[18:07] <JFo> excellent
[18:07] <JFo> then it was, in fact, a duplicate
[18:07] <JFo> I am glad to hear that
[18:07] <bac> JFo: yeah, it is pretty gratifying to get a *kernel* fix within an hour.  :)
[18:08] <JFo> yeah, you should see all of the duplicates I am dealing with :-)
[18:08] <bac> JFo: it didn't look like a dup of the thinkpad issue, completely different presentation, but i guess the core problem was the same
[18:09] <JFo> bac, I suppose so, which makes it even more boggling
[18:12] <apw> bac, JFo yeah ... thinking about it the async thread that was blowing up could be the same thread which scans your sata disk channels, so there is a chance ordering wise you could lose that thread and not find your disks
[18:12] <apw> not at all obvious until you proved it did unexpectedly fix you as well
[18:13] <bac> apw: great.  not finding disks is very disconcerting...
[18:13] <apw> yeah .. i bet
[18:20] <JFo> bac, I marked it as a duplicate of the primary. So you can take a look at that bug too if you like.
[18:21] <bac> thanks jfo
[18:21] <JFo> my pleasure
[18:28] <ddecator> kamusin: you rang?
[18:36] <Damascene> any one using netbook-launcher?
[18:37] <Damascene> I've a bug while trying to open unmounted partition. it doesn't open or show any window to enter the password
[18:38] <Damascene> as if I did it from nautilus
[18:46] <om26er> Damascene, report a bug you will get quick response
[18:47] <Damascene> om26er, maybe it is not a bug. I just want to make sure from another friend brother
[18:47] <Damascene> *another user brother
[18:48] <om26er> Damascene, coming back in a few minutes, will install une launcher and check
[18:48] <ddecator> kamusin: i'll be gone for a few hours, but if you get back while i'm not here then feel free to send me a message
[18:55] <om26er> Damascene, #ubuntu+1
[19:17] <kamusin> om26er, done! ;)
[19:31] <bdmurray> pedro_: have you seen a bug about gdm and indicators appearing in it?
[19:35] <pedro_> bdmurray, nope, nothing like that lately, which indicator are you seeing there?
[19:37] <bdmurray> pedro_: battery if I boot up w/ my ac adapter unplugged and don't login (for a bit)
[19:39] <anoteng> Could a bug controller please set status on bug #554627 to triaged, I'm in doubt about importance but I'm suggesting high: "Makes a default Ubuntu installation generally unusable for some users"
[19:39] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 554627 in linux (Ubuntu) "boot freeze on "Starting up ..." with generic kernel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554627
[20:09] <charlie-tca> anoteng: done
[20:12] <anoteng> thanks
[20:12] <anoteng> I have another one
[20:13] <anoteng> Bug #554695
[20:13] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 554695 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[ubuntu lucid] both suspend and hibernate fail on netbook (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554695
[20:14] <anoteng> triaged/medium (moderate impact on a core application)
[20:15] <charlie-tca> tag for development version should be regression-potential
[20:16] <yofel> yes
[20:16] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags
[20:17] <charlie-tca> anoteng: done, tag changed
[20:17] <charlie-tca> Thanks for helping
[20:18] <anoteng> ok, thanks for your help and guidance
[20:18] <charlie-tca> no problem
[21:06] <etali> Hi, could someone check Bug 495524 please?  (I think it should be set to Wishlist / Medium - it's annoying behaviour, but I've seen it in other clients too)
[21:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 495524 in gwibber "Retweeting ignores posting permissions (affects: 1) (heat: 408)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495524
[21:30] <etali> Two more two Wishlist, Bug #561791
[21:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 561791 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Clunk (libclunk) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561791
[21:30] <etali> and Bug #561597, thanks.
[21:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 561597 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] virtualenvwrapper (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561597
[22:30] <JamieBennett> Can some kind soul mark http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/561836 as high/triaged for me?
[22:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 561836 in webservice-office-zoho (Ubuntu) "debian/control missing build depend (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:44] <bdmurray> JamieBennett: done
[22:44] <JamieBennett> bdmurray: thank you