[07:57] <mdke> DarkwingDuck: we don't know. it's a topic we'll need to discuss when planning for the next release
[17:04] <newz2000> Hi, I need to move the content from http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs to an appropriate place elsewhere
[17:04] <newz2000> maybe help.ubuntu.com/Community
[17:04] <newz2000> Can someone help me understand the processes for doing this?
[17:54] <ZachK_> newz2000: whaz up?
[17:55] <newz2000> hi ZachK_
[17:55] <ZachK_> newz2000: what do you need?
[17:56] <newz2000> ZachK_: I need to move some pages from www.ubuntu.com to somewhere
[17:56] <newz2000> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs
[17:56] <newz2000> maybe to help.ubuntu.com or the wiki, not sure what is best
[17:57] <ZachK_> the wiki is pointed toward people having personal pages and teams having there info.... for example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZachK_ (mine)
[17:57] <ZachK_> the help.ubuntu.com is for documentation of help and such
[17:57] <newz2000> ok, so this is documentation
[17:57] <ZachK_> but since the Ubuntu.com site is non-editable you would have to hand type it all not copy and paste so much
[17:58] <newz2000> ZachK_: I can edit the ubuntu.com site, I'm the webmaster
[17:58] <ZachK_> and yes this is documentation and wiki stuff
[17:58] <ZachK_> newz2000: ah....
[17:58] <newz2000> ZachK_: but I'm not sure what the procedures are for managing help.u.c
[17:59] <ZachK_> what do you want done is the question...just a transfer of info?
[17:59] <newz2000> Yes, the ubuntu site is getting updated and this content doesn't really fit well there
[18:00] <newz2000> Feels more "documentation" I guess
[18:00] <ZachK_> Search for it first to see if it's not there already(sometimes it can be) if it's not I can just make a page real quick...(I'm the Wiki FG Lead)
[18:00] <ZachK_> not sure if you know what that is
[18:00] <newz2000> ok, let me do some searching
[18:01] <newz2000> Hmm... no, not really, though the server guide PDF is close
[18:02] <ZachK_> my page should have most the info that you'd need
[18:02] <ZachK_> links and such
[18:02] <newz2000> ZachK_: can you suggest a url scheme to use?
[18:03] <ZachK_> for?
[18:03] <ZachK_> sorry i work the night shift so i'm like way wacked out since ive not been to bed
[18:03] <newz2000> the server technical docs?
[18:03] <ZachK_> oh...
[18:03] <newz2000> sorry, that wasn't ment to be a question
[18:03] <newz2000> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs
[18:04] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serveredition/techspecs ?
[18:05] <ZachK_> without the ? sign
[18:05] <newz2000> ZachK_: that would have it outside of the wiki though wouldn't it?
[18:05] <ZachK_> that would be on help.ubuntu.com yes
[18:05] <newz2000> Is that OK?
[18:06] <ZachK_> that's where it would belong
[18:06] <newz2000> ok, so I'm not familiar with how to manage content outside of the wiki on help.u.c
[18:07] <ZachK_> wiki.ubuntu.com is like i said for team pages, focus group pages, release notes, personal pages for people things like that
[18:07] <newz2000> ZachK_: yes, and as I understand it, help.u.c/community is a wiki
[18:08] <newz2000> but help.u.c/ubuntu/serveredition isn't a wiki (correct me if I'm wrong)
[18:08] <newz2000> so how does a person get documentation into that URL?
[18:10] <ZachK_> well the https://www.help.ubuntu.com/ would stay the same...since i can edit that site, the community part that is you just add the /ubuntu/serveredition/specs to the end and it will tell if that page is not yet been made, if there is a page with a similar name, things like tha
[18:10] <ZachK_> *that
[18:11] <newz2000> ZachK_: so are you saying to publish this content as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntu/serveredition or as https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serveredition ?
[18:11] <ZachK_> yup
[18:11] <ZachK_> I can do it for ya
[18:11] <newz2000> which one of those URLs are correct? (one is in the community wiki)
[18:12] <newz2000> (and I don't see anything in the help.u.c/community/ubuntu/serveredition or help.u.c/community/ubuntu url spaces)
[18:13] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/ is where this would go
[18:13] <newz2000> ZachK_: ok, if you create the page for me I'll copy the content over to it.
[18:14] <ZachK_> ok what url do you want exactly? the last part that is
[18:14] <ZachK_> ubuntu/serveredtion or ubuntu/serveredition/tech
[18:15] <newz2000> the second option
[18:15] <ZachK_> ubuntu/serveredition/tech?
[18:15] <newz2000> ZachK_: sounds great
[18:15] <ZachK_> ok just a sec here
[18:16]  * ZachK_ breaks out the super keyboard
[18:17] <ZachK_> i can't login to the help.ubuntu.com/community
[18:18] <ZachK_> the code for logging in is busted
[18:18] <ZachK_> (77, 'Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)')If you want to report a bug, please save this page and attach it to your bug report.Show debugging information Report bug Visit MoinMoin wiki
[18:19] <newz2000> ZachK_: ok, so you're just creating help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntu/serveredition/tech ?
[18:20] <ZachK_> that's what i was trying to do but if i can't login i can't edit
[18:20] <newz2000> ok, I can do that myself later when it's working again
[18:20] <ZachK_> i'll try later
[18:20] <newz2000> I was under the impression something else was going on
[18:20]  * ZachK_ needs some doc work to do
[18:20] <ZachK_> just let me do it man..i'll even copy the info and maybe spice it up a little bit too for ya as a bonus
[18:21]  * ZachK_ is feeling very generous right now....(maybe that's the no sleep and too much coffee?)
[18:21] <ZachK_> newz2000: ?
[18:22] <newz2000> ZachK_: ok, sounds cool
[18:22] <ZachK_> alright...
[18:22] <newz2000> I just pinged the sysadmins to see if they can help w/ the ssl error
[18:23] <ZachK_> ok cool..it was working yesterday so idk what it was..but i need to go to sleep for a bit before i drop
[18:23] <ZachK_> nice to meet ya to by the way
[18:23]  * newz2000 tips his hat
[18:24] <newz2000> ZachK_: ok, it's fixed
[18:24] <ZachK_> ok...
[18:24] <ZachK_> I'll make that up for ya in a few hours cool?
[18:25] <newz2000> ZachK_: so cool it is beyond description
[18:25] <ZachK_> alrighty then
[18:25] <newz2000> Give me a ping if you get tired and I'll pick it up
[18:26] <ZachK_> i'll ping ya when it's done.....
[18:26] <ZachK_> I'll start around 5:00 pm or so but it'll take less than two hours at most
[22:16] <mdke> sommer: take a look at the conversation above when you get a moment
[22:18] <mdke> sommer, newz2000, ZachK_ - I would ordinarily say that new material should be integrated with existing if possible, i.e. the pages at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[22:19] <mdke> I wouldn't worry about changing the url to something more consistent with other pages in the wiki