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domasanyone ever seen such installer error: http://p.defau.lt/?1XZtv34Fg4nT3UcUa_o1WQ ?00:21
glphvgacshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/412831/01:04
domashow do I find out partition table on ubuntu-server? parted rounds to megabytes, and fdisk doesn't work with GPT02:07
domascan anyone share preseed magic to align file systems? :)02:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #561281 in samba (main) "case sensitivity option (case sensitive=no) is not honored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56128109:16
nobsehi10:17
Dr4gGuys i'm on ubuntu server version 8. What alternatives are there to cPanel ??10:17
twbebox10:17
Dr4gLooks good. But no file directory access, or vhost setup.10:19
twbIMO all "I want to administer the system from my browser" solutions are utter, utter shite.10:19
Dr4gDitto. I'm the sys admin but the directors are uneasy that i'm the only linux dev in the building.10:21
Dr4gso they want GUI access10:21
Dr4gI gave them SCP/SFTP acess and phpMyAdmin acess10:21
twbAs opposed to, you know, training the other sysadmins :-/10:21
Dr4gbut still not enough :S10:21
twbI tried to sell my bosses on putting gnome-system-tools on the server and having the faux sysadmins access it using xming3210:22
twbSince AFAICT all they REALLY needed was the ability to add and remove users.10:22
Dr4ghehe10:23
twbInstead we're running webmin (urgghh!)10:23
Dr4gtwb, what would you want to use insterad o webmin ?10:42
Dr4git looked not bad.. mysql, email, ftp administration.10:42
twbDr4g: a shell.10:42
twbRe. FTP, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie10:43
Dr4gtwb, i was referring to a web product like cPanel10:43
twbSomething that doesn't have hundreds of lintian errors, several of them critical?10:44
OmahnDoes Ubuntu have a command line tool that will collect all the various system configuration files and logs then bundle them up for sending to support?11:16
Omahn(Other than just creating a tarball each time)11:16
twbreportbug?11:26
twbExcept that Ubuntu NIHd debbugs :-/11:26
OmahnLooks like a little script might be easiest.11:33
* amine_ hello12:07
ttxsoren: ping13:10
eagles0513875hey guys im trying to upgrade ubuntu server from karmic to lucid and i keep getting this message13:23
eagles0513875Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall13:23
eagles0513875any solution or way i can upgrade to lucid13:23
pmatuliseagles0513875: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/55958213:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 559582 in mountall "Upgrade from karmic to lucid failes with Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall" [Undecided,New]13:29
zulttx: does euca have a built in dhcp server or uses the dhcp server13:29
eagles0513875pmatulis: should i go ahead and confirm it13:29
pmatuliseagles0513875: add that you are also affected (near the top)13:29
ttxzul: i'm not sure I understand your question... eucalyptus hands off IP addresses to the VMs13:31
zulttx: k i think i figured it out13:31
eagles0513875pmatulis: ty and i added myself to that list :)13:32
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eagles0513875pmatulis: so no way to upgrade13:33
eagles0513875unless i do an entirely clean install13:33
pmatuliseagles0513875: are you on #ubuntu+1 ?  if not, you should be if you are running lucid13:34
eagles0513875pmatulis: i am but im on karmic trying to upgrade im just asking if my solution would be a clean install13:34
eagles0513875since upgrade process is broken13:34
pmatuliseagles0513875: i would wait and try again in a while.  is it a VM?13:35
eagles0513875non virtualized setup13:35
pmatuliseagles0513875: how did you perform you uprade anyway?13:37
eagles0513875pmatulis: like the wiki says13:37
eagles0513875updated fully13:37
eagles0513875then ran sudo do-release-upgrade -d13:37
pmatuliseagles0513875: ok.  just asking b/c the bug poster says he manually edited sources.list13:38
eagles0513875pmatulis: that used to be the way back in the days of edgy etc13:38
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eagles0513875no need for that now13:38
eagles0513875used to use source o matic hehe13:38
pmatuliseagles0513875: yes, i know13:38
zulttx: the case sensitivy bug has been re-opened fyi ;)13:44
eagles0513875man this is upsetting13:45
pmatuliseagles0513875: so your system is a regular install (Server ISO)?13:47
eagles0513875pmatulis: ya13:47
eagles0513875nothing is setup on the machine have been using it as a testing and development machine13:47
pmatuliseagles0513875: ok, i'm investigating13:47
eagles0513875pmatulis: thanks :)13:47
pmatuliseagles0513875: fresh karmic install?13:48
eagles0513875yep13:48
pmatuliseagles0513875: how long ago?13:49
eagles0513875few weeks13:49
eagles0513875its fully up to date13:49
ScottKttx: Who's the mysql expert these days?  We (Kubuntu) are still having akonadi/mysql problems and we need to coordinate on packaging changes.13:57
ttxScottK: mathiaz13:58
ScottKttx: Any idea when he'll be around?13:58
ttxScottK: usually in one hour13:58
ScottKttx: Thanks.13:58
eagles0513875ScottK: any ideas on a rather nasty upgrade bug14:02
eagles0513875bug 55958214:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 559582 in mountall "Upgrade from karmic to lucid failes with Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55958214:02
ScottKNope.14:02
zulttx: ping about bug 276472 i vaguely remembering seeing a kernel patch in the samba bugzilla14:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 276472 in samba "cp -p on CIFS mount does not preserve permissions and returns a permission denied error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27647214:08
ttxzul: if you can find the reference back, post it as a comment -- just give Surbhi a chance to fix it14:09
zulttx: ok14:11
smoserttx, someone maybe should look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/557909 . it needs more information, but looks like it is fairly severe14:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 557909 in devmapper "lucid hangs on boot because of device ownership" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #561475 in xinetd (main) "when sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only=1, xinetd can not bind to both IPv4 and IPv6 on same port" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56147514:16
ttxsmoser: ack14:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #561485 in samba (main) "Mounting CIFS folder i can only have READ ONLY access" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56148514:38
uvirtbotNew bug: #561491 in net-snmp (main) "SNMP and Sundance driver problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56149114:41
J_Phi all15:18
J_PI have this error in client (ubuntu desktop 9.10) trying to mount on server (ubuntu 8.04 server):15:19
J_Pmount.nfs: mount system call failed15:19
J_PBut if I try to mount in localhost (server) mount nfs ok15:20
J_Pany idea?15:20
J_Pno firewall between client and server15:20
zulttx: ping had a look at 556343 yet?15:22
ttxzul: no, it's all yours to debunk15:23
zuli think we already debunked it15:23
ttxzul: ah ? We determined that it's not an apparmor issue, but the upgrade problem still remains, no ?15:24
zulttx: yeah i dont think its a really a bug though its just a verbose warning15:25
ttxzul: the post-installation script fails with exit status 1... tat's not a warning15:25
zulbecause cups, ntpd, mysql will give the same warning15:25
ttxzul: I don't care about the "apparmor_parser" warning15:25
jdstrandthe apparmor thing is a verbse warning (and didn't cause the postinst to fail)15:26
ttxzul:  I care about what makes the upgrade fail (which is *not* the warning)15:26
zulttx: k15:26
ttxzul: if you can't reproduce failure on upgrade (but just the warning) then we'll de-prioritize it15:26
zulthats what Im saying15:27
ttxzul: if you do hardy+bind -> lucid upgrade it doesn't fail ?15:27
J_Panyone?15:27
zulno it doesnt15:28
ttxzul: check if mvo is he can reproduce on every run of his upgrade tester... maybe it only occurs when all tasks are installed (that's what he tests upgrade from)15:29
ttx...check with mvo if...15:29
zulk15:29
mvozul: it happens only on the tasks all profile, but I can reproduce it in the VM 100% of the time15:30
mvozul: its also transient, at the end of the upgrade I can restart bind just fine15:30
ttxmvo: so it's not blocking ? Perhaps zul missed it if it's just transient15:30
mvottx: well, its transient in the sense that it will fail only during the upgrade. but it still fails and makes dpkg/apt unhappy15:31
mvottx: so we should fix it (or at least figure out more about it :)15:31
mvoI commited a change that stops apparmor before dpkg runs so at messages about apparmor that are red-herrings should be gone with the next u-m upload15:32
ttxmvo: you can reproduce on a VM with only server + bind task, or you test the "all tasks" install ?15:32
mvoall tasks15:32
mvoI have not tried with server + bind only15:32
ttxmvo: ok, so maybe it's a conflict, if zul can't reproduce on server+bind15:32
mvoI can start a run for this in a little while, first the kernel needs to be sorted15:32
ttxmvo: zul will try to reproduce first15:33
mvohttp://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/ <- rather unhappy because the kernel can not be downloaded anymore15:33
mvottx: ok, thanks15:33
zulttx/mvo: im going to be doing the testing from an iso and will let you know after15:56
ScottKttx: Still no mathias.  Anyone else?16:04
axisyshow come I can ssh to a down interface here ?16:31
axisyshttp://pastebin.com/izmZ7Ce416:31
axisysi can ssh to the ip bind to eth116:31
eagles0513875pmatulis: might have found a work around from someone on the bug you linked me to im testing it out now16:33
eagles0513875this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/55958216:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 559582 in mountall "Upgrade from karmic to lucid failes with Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:33
zulScottK: ping can you have a look at #535185 for me please?16:33
ScottKLooking.16:33
mathiaz_zul: hi - what's the status of mysql-5.0 in lucid?16:34
zulmathiaz_: will be done tonight16:34
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pmatuliseagles0513875: yeah, i'm getting the bugmail16:35
eagles0513875pmatulis: testing it as we speak16:37
ScottKzul: Approved.16:40
zulScottK: thanks16:40
eagles0513875pmatulis:  :) seems to be working16:44
pmatuliseagles0513875: nice16:44
eagles0513875hopefully nothing breaks :(16:44
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Genk1Hello ! what is the topology of a network equipped with a an IPS host ?16:47
Genk1I mean where can I put the ips in my network !16:47
eagles0513875Genk1: are you talking about a dhcp server16:49
eagles0513875which dynamically allocates ip addresses to machines on ur network for a certain period of time16:49
ttxScottK: mathiaz is here now17:14
* ttx stops for the day17:14
ScottKmathiaz: We're still having some Akonadi/Mysql issues in Kubuntu.  Could you join us in #kubuntu-devel to discuss possible package adjustments?17:15
zomGregcan anyone point me to some eucalyptus "certified" ubuntu804 LTS images?17:34
mathiazScottK: sorry - I'm busy for now18:37
mathiazScottK: I should have more time in a couple of hours18:38
ScottKmathiaz: OK.18:38
mathiazScottK: should I drop by #kubuntu-devel later or could you send me an email?18:38
ScottKmathiaz: Please drop by.18:39
mathiazScottK: ok - will do in a few hours18:40
ScottKThanks.18:40
realmatthas anyone here used gpart on a 4TB raid array?18:49
Ziderare there any "official" fix for the problem with the init not waiting for cryptdisks to finish before attempting to mount them?19:38
apwkirkland, about ?19:41
kirklandapw: yo19:41
apwwe have some patches for kvm which we would like to apply before release, but after the last disaster i'd like to get them tested before i commit them ... would you be able to test them out19:42
apwand do you have an amd based kit to test on?  i think it went bang there last time19:42
apwkirkland, plus ... is svm the thing that kvm used on amd64?19:43
ZiderI find it odd that noone else seems to have this issue.. I mean, surely others must run encrypted drives, right?19:44
kirklandapw: vmx is intel, svm is amd, yeah19:44
apwZider, i think you would be supprised just how few do19:44
Ziderapw: perhaps they don't because of the initscript problem :P19:45
kirklandapw: i do have both intel and amd kit here19:45
kirklandapw: though my amd kit is very old (though still supports kvm)19:45
kirklandapw: it's hardly comprehensive19:45
apwi may have something which can test it19:45
kirklandapw: do you have a kernel?19:45
kirklandapw: in a ppa or what?19:45
apwkirkland, not as yet... if you can test i'll get some building19:46
kirklandapw: sure, i'll test19:46
sherrZider: I run encrypted on my laptop - what bug?19:53
Zidersherr: mount-script tries to mount the disks before cryptdisks finishes unlocking them19:54
axisysi have two interface eth0 and eth1 .. with different IP .. eth1 is down.. when I ping from remote host even the eth1 reponds .. but the arp shows mac address of only eth0 .. a bug ?19:54
sherrZider: is there a logged bug I can look at?19:54
Zidersherr: I'm not sure it logs anything special at bootup.. it seems to run all scripts at the same time, which screws up the order if you have many encrypted disks19:55
alvinZider: Are you talking about bug 475936 or 456274?20:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 475936 in cryptsetup "race condition between encrypted device creation and mountall probing with random-encrypted devices (swap, tmp)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47593620:00
Zideralvin: where can I see those?20:00
alvinWell, bug 456274 (show 'm uvirtbot!°20:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 456274 in mountall "mountall 0.2.5 and cryptsetup fail to boot when using usplash (encrypted root)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45627420:01
alvinZider: Click on the links and see whether the description matches your experience20:01
Zideralvin: it's 45627420:01
Ziderno wait..20:02
Zider47593620:02
alvinThat one is fix released I see20:02
Zidersorry, I c&p'ed wrong20:02
Ziderwell, it somewhat applies anyway, I don't have any random-encrypted disks, just "regular" ones.. but there's 5 of them, and they don't get unlocked in time before mountall runs20:04
alvinAh, 5. Hmm, could you uncomment one in /etc/fstab? In LVM, you also can only mount 4 volumes (in Lucid)20:08
Ziderto shorten the start-time you mean?20:09
alvinNo, the LVM thing is actually a real bug, but mabe the shorter start time does do something20:09
alvinKarmic had the same problems with NFS: network not up fast enough = blocked boot20:10
ZiderI don't use LVM afaik20:10
alvinNot enough people do :-)20:10
ZiderI don't really see a point to :)20:10
alvinOh, there are many. Even for a desktop system. Snapshots for example.20:10
_rubenresizing and snapshotting are the most common ones20:11
ZiderI don't use either. :)20:11
sherrLVM is proving very useful. Better perf. for virt. devices as well.20:11
ZiderI just have the drives mounted in separate dirs20:12
alvinCan someone confirm my suspicion that the upgrade to Lucid changes all LVM fstab entries to mount-by-uuid?20:15
hggdhsmoser: can we chat about the EC2 test cases?20:16
smosersure20:16
hggdhsmoser: I see you started working on them, and already have it pretty much done, sort of20:17
smoser"sort of"20:17
smoser:)20:17
hggdh:-)20:17
ChmEarlwhen might this be available for karmic or lucid? http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd6420:17
hggdhmuch more than what *I* had, and it is alomost complete20:17
hggdhsmoser: I have some Qs: (1) the tests are quite inclusive, but I am unsure on how we report an error on one of them20:19
hggdhfor example, would it be a good idea to add the different models explicitly?20:19
smosermodels ?20:20
smoserthe general "test suite" is quite hacky.20:21
smoserand much of the tests (so far) require me to look at console output.  I basically run the test-multi.sh and then 'vi *'.20:21
smoserwhich is obviously going to be error prone , but is *considerably* better than launching all that by hand and looking at output one by one.20:22
hggdhyes, I agree. I am trying to arrive at something that can done by (theoretically) anybody20:22
hggdhwell, as long as this "anybody" is willing to spend money ;-)20:22
smoserhggdh, so the stuff that isn't automated, can probably be automated. i collect enough data from each instance.20:24
smoser(and if not, we can just collect more)20:24
smoseri'd suggest adding a directory of tests that run maybe after console data had been collected, before termination20:25
smoserthat could do things like verifying the ssh keys are what the console said they should be20:25
smoserhggdh, its embarrasingly hacky at this point :)20:25
smoserbut it works20:26
smoserone thing i've wondered, though, is why anyone would *want* to spend money just to run an automated test suite20:26
hggdhsmoser: don't ask me... there are always somebody willing (and I really welcome them, BTW)20:27
smoserwell, i understand being interested in finding bugs you care about, or making sure your hardware works.20:27
smoserbut this seems just simply a donation to amazon20:28
smoserbut anyway20:28
hggdhheh20:28
uvirtbotNew bug: #561750 in squid (main) "squid starts and stops immediately (after upgrade from karmic to lucid)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56175020:31
hggdhsmoser: as far as I can see, I agree with you --- one test is enough here20:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #561751 in clamav (main) "package clamav-milter 0.96+dfsg-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 20" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56175120:31
hggdhsmoser: I mean one *tester*20:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #561760 in clamav (main) "package clamav-milter 0.96 dfsg-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 20" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56176020:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #561761 in clamav (main) "package clamav-milter 0.96 dfsg-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 20" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56176120:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #561779 in squid (main) "squid is not started on runlevel transition 1 -> 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56177921:05
hggdhmathiaz: I have added euca-get-console-output to your uec-testing-scripts, can I propose a merge?21:15
airliasdesignanyone here to help me?21:34
guntbert!ask | airliasdesign21:35
ubottuairliasdesign: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:35
MagicFabhi all21:36
airliasdesignI'm looking into possible server OS options for a new website I'm running, and I'm looking to run a clouding setup with Ubuntu as my OS, would it be possible to run 1 instance of Apache with all of my node resources dedicated to that Apache server, then run a MySQL cloud, then a mail cloud and so forth?21:36
airliasdesignIn other words, it would be separate clouds on separate ip addresses and hubs21:37
MagicFabI was wondering if there is a list of kvm enhancements/new features/fixes that would cover 8.04LTS -> 10.04LTS ? Other than the fully detailed changelog21:37
MagicFabspecifically, re: running Windows guests in KVM (Win2008 server)21:37
MagicFabnijaba, mathiaz  ^21:38
airliasdesignis 10.04LTS out yet?21:38
ruben23hi21:38
guntbertairliasdesign: not yet21:40
airliasdesignthought so21:40
airliasdesignmy 9.10 CDs came in the mail yesterday lol21:40
airliasdesignI'm going to start a collection21:40
airliasdesignlmao21:40
nimrod10airliasdesign, it is out in beta : http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/21:41
airliasdesignahh ok21:42
airliasdesignanyone know about the clouding question?21:42
airliasdesignwell21:42
airliasdesign17 days until 10.0421:42
ScottKsommer: FYI - Bug #56182521:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 561825 in ubuntu-docs "Replace dkim-filter in mail filtering section with opendkim" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56182521:51
airliasdesignhey guys22:02
airliasdesignnevermind22:02
airliasdesignwrong box22:02
apwkirkland, dunno what time it is for you, but those kernels are uploading ... will msg the location22:11
kirklandk22:11
airliasdesignok22:18
airliasdesignI want to replace CentOS with ubuntu22:18
airliasdesignis there any way to transfer the user's files ?22:18
netnullciao ragazzi, ho un problema configurando la posta su un server virtuale tiscali, mi potreste aiutare?22:22
netnullhello guys..sorry, i didnt see its an english channel.. could someone help me to set up a mail server on a virtual server?22:23
ruben23hi guys anyway i can implement a domain controller with active directory on an ubuntu server..22:27
* genii ponders "anyway, I can do something" as opposed to "any way I can do something?"22:31
jetoleHey guys. I'm setting up a small HA web server scenario right now. In this case only 3 web servers where all requests will be round robin setup between the servers. What I wanted to know is what is a good way to keep the filesystem replicated across all servers that will scale well as the number of web servers grows?22:34
jetoleI was thinking about rsync but that doesn't seem well designed for this. DRBD is a thought I had and have experience with but I'm not sure how well that will work as the numbers grow. I have also never tried DRBD with more then two nodes. I have looked briefly into OpenAFS but don't have experience with it. What do you guys recommend?22:36
RoAkSoAxjetole, i would go with DRBD22:41
RoAkSoAxjetole, sample setups with new cluster packages can be found in: wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting22:41
jetoleRoAkSoAx: Thanks for the advice22:42
jetoleRoAkSoAx: I have another question for you. Suppose I want to configure files to be manages by rsync that typically need root access for example /etc/drbd/*. How would I set this up without creating root ssh logins/keys ?22:46
jetoleor is there another way I should manage shared configuration files?22:47
RoAkSoAxjetole, you can take a look to csync222:47
jetoleThanks again. googling now22:47
RoAkSoAxjetole, http://www.roaksoax.com/2008/06/cluster-sinchronization-tool-csync222:47
jetoleawesome!22:48
jetoleRoAkSoAx: reading thatnow22:48
RoAkSoAx;)22:49
panamaquonohello23:05
panamaquonoI'm using opera to do this, is that a mistake?23:07
mathiazhggdh: hi - merges are free - so please go ahead23:07
panamaquonoI've run into a wall23:07
mathiazhggdh: are you using the test rig for now?23:07
panamaquonoI tried to install ImageMagick on my Ubuntu Server23:07
panamaquonoI need to know how to completely remove it23:08
panamaquonoI tried rm -r and that seems to only work on folders, I'm not sure what I'm aiming at is a folder23:09
panamaquonoI'm very novice23:09
panamaquonois this working?23:10
geniiYes23:11
geniipanamaquono: Also, yes23:11
panamaquonowonderful, I wasn't sure I haven't used opera in a while23:12
panamaquonoI tried to wget a fresh version of it and 'roll out the tarball' and then make, and then 'sudo make uninstall' - that was supposed to do it,23:13
panamaquonobut it's still shows up if I type ls23:13
panamaquonoI also believe the actual program to be running23:14
panamaquonoperhaps I should look for a chat room for that thing?23:14
jetoledoes anyone know how I can see whats using the most bandwidth on my network from looking at pcap files?23:23
jeeveswhat is the be all and end all way of fixing an apt failure?23:26
hggdhmathiaz: no, I am not23:31
hggdhmathiaz: your uec-testing-scripts is under ./+junk, should I just send you the diff?23:32
mathiazhggdh: can't you create a merge proposal?23:33
jeeveswhat is the be all and end all way of fixing an apt failure?23:33
mathiazhggdh: or push to your +junk/ branch as well23:33
mathiazsmoser: are you using the uec test rig?23:36
isnoopIs there a command line path to upgrade 8.04 to 10.4 Beta2?  Perhaps a flag for do-release-upgrade?23:47
isnoop-d gave me "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade"23:48
hggdhmathiaz: I will push to my own +junk, I cannot create a merger proposal for +junk branches23:49
mathiazhggdh: ok - that looks good enough23:50
mathiazhggdh: can you subscribe me to your branch?23:50
hggdhmathiaz: done23:55

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