[00:21] <domas> anyone ever seen such installer error: http://p.defau.lt/?1XZtv34Fg4nT3UcUa_o1WQ ?
[01:04] <glphvgacs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/412831/
[02:07] <domas> how do I find out partition table on ubuntu-server? parted rounds to megabytes, and fdisk doesn't work with GPT
[02:26] <domas> can anyone share preseed magic to align file systems? :)
[10:17] <nobse> hi
[10:17] <Dr4g> Guys i'm on ubuntu server version 8. What alternatives are there to cPanel ??
[10:17] <twb> ebox
[10:19] <Dr4g> Looks good. But no file directory access, or vhost setup.
[10:19] <twb> IMO all "I want to administer the system from my browser" solutions are utter, utter shite.
[10:21] <Dr4g> Ditto. I'm the sys admin but the directors are uneasy that i'm the only linux dev in the building.
[10:21] <Dr4g> so they want GUI access
[10:21] <Dr4g> I gave them SCP/SFTP acess and phpMyAdmin acess
[10:21] <twb> As opposed to, you know, training the other sysadmins :-/
[10:21] <Dr4g> but still not enough :S
[10:22] <twb> I tried to sell my bosses on putting gnome-system-tools on the server and having the faux sysadmins access it using xming32
[10:22] <twb> Since AFAICT all they REALLY needed was the ability to add and remove users.
[10:23] <Dr4g> hehe
[10:23] <twb> Instead we're running webmin (urgghh!)
[10:42] <Dr4g> twb, what would you want to use insterad o webmin ?
[10:42] <Dr4g> it looked not bad.. mysql, email, ftp administration.
[10:42] <twb> Dr4g: a shell.
[10:43] <twb> Re. FTP, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[10:43] <Dr4g> twb, i was referring to a web product like cPanel
[10:44] <twb> Something that doesn't have hundreds of lintian errors, several of them critical?
[11:16] <Omahn> Does Ubuntu have a command line tool that will collect all the various system configuration files and logs then bundle them up for sending to support?
[11:16] <Omahn> (Other than just creating a tarball each time)
[11:26] <twb> reportbug?
[11:26] <twb> Except that Ubuntu NIHd debbugs :-/
[11:33] <Omahn> Looks like a little script might be easiest.
[12:07]  * amine_ hello
[13:10] <ttx> soren: ping
[13:23] <eagles0513875> hey guys im trying to upgrade ubuntu server from karmic to lucid and i keep getting this message
[13:23] <eagles0513875> Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall
[13:23] <eagles0513875> any solution or way i can upgrade to lucid
[13:29] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/559582
[13:29] <zul> ttx: does euca have a built in dhcp server or uses the dhcp server
[13:29] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: should i go ahead and confirm it
[13:29] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: add that you are also affected (near the top)
[13:31] <ttx> zul: i'm not sure I understand your question... eucalyptus hands off IP addresses to the VMs
[13:31] <zul> ttx: k i think i figured it out
[13:32] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: ty and i added myself to that list :)
[13:33] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: so no way to upgrade
[13:33] <eagles0513875> unless i do an entirely clean install
[13:34] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: are you on #ubuntu+1 ?  if not, you should be if you are running lucid
[13:34] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: i am but im on karmic trying to upgrade im just asking if my solution would be a clean install
[13:34] <eagles0513875> since upgrade process is broken
[13:35] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: i would wait and try again in a while.  is it a VM?
[13:35] <eagles0513875> non virtualized setup
[13:37] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: how did you perform you uprade anyway?
[13:37] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: like the wiki says
[13:37] <eagles0513875> updated fully
[13:37] <eagles0513875> then ran sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:38] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: ok.  just asking b/c the bug poster says he manually edited sources.list
[13:38] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: that used to be the way back in the days of edgy etc
[13:38] <eagles0513875> no need for that now
[13:38] <eagles0513875> used to use source o matic hehe
[13:38] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: yes, i know
[13:44] <zul> ttx: the case sensitivy bug has been re-opened fyi ;)
[13:45] <eagles0513875> man this is upsetting
[13:47] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: so your system is a regular install (Server ISO)?
[13:47] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: ya
[13:47] <eagles0513875> nothing is setup on the machine have been using it as a testing and development machine
[13:47] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: ok, i'm investigating
[13:47] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: thanks :)
[13:48] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: fresh karmic install?
[13:48] <eagles0513875> yep
[13:49] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: how long ago?
[13:49] <eagles0513875> few weeks
[13:49] <eagles0513875> its fully up to date
[13:57] <ScottK> ttx: Who's the mysql expert these days?  We (Kubuntu) are still having akonadi/mysql problems and we need to coordinate on packaging changes.
[13:58] <ttx> ScottK: mathiaz
[13:58] <ScottK> ttx: Any idea when he'll be around?
[13:58] <ttx> ScottK: usually in one hour
[13:58] <ScottK> ttx: Thanks.
[14:02] <eagles0513875> ScottK: any ideas on a rather nasty upgrade bug
[14:02] <eagles0513875> bug 559582
[14:02] <ScottK> Nope.
[14:08] <zul> ttx: ping about bug 276472 i vaguely remembering seeing a kernel patch in the samba bugzilla
[14:09] <ttx> zul: if you can find the reference back, post it as a comment -- just give Surbhi a chance to fix it
[14:11] <zul> ttx: ok
[14:12] <smoser> ttx, someone maybe should look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/557909 . it needs more information, but looks like it is fairly severe
[14:25] <ttx> smoser: ack
[15:18] <J_P> hi all
[15:19] <J_P> I have this error in client (ubuntu desktop 9.10) trying to mount on server (ubuntu 8.04 server):
[15:19] <J_P> mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[15:20] <J_P> But if I try to mount in localhost (server) mount nfs ok
[15:20] <J_P> any idea?
[15:20] <J_P> no firewall between client and server
[15:22] <zul> ttx: ping had a look at 556343 yet?
[15:23] <ttx> zul: no, it's all yours to debunk
[15:23] <zul> i think we already debunked it
[15:24] <ttx> zul: ah ? We determined that it's not an apparmor issue, but the upgrade problem still remains, no ?
[15:25] <zul> ttx: yeah i dont think its a really a bug though its just a verbose warning
[15:25] <ttx> zul: the post-installation script fails with exit status 1... tat's not a warning
[15:25] <zul> because cups, ntpd, mysql will give the same warning
[15:25] <ttx> zul: I don't care about the "apparmor_parser" warning
[15:26] <jdstrand> the apparmor thing is a verbse warning (and didn't cause the postinst to fail)
[15:26] <ttx> zul:  I care about what makes the upgrade fail (which is *not* the warning)
[15:26] <zul> ttx: k
[15:26] <ttx> zul: if you can't reproduce failure on upgrade (but just the warning) then we'll de-prioritize it
[15:27] <zul> thats what Im saying
[15:27] <ttx> zul: if you do hardy+bind -> lucid upgrade it doesn't fail ?
[15:27] <J_P> anyone?
[15:28] <zul> no it doesnt
[15:29] <ttx> zul: check if mvo is he can reproduce on every run of his upgrade tester... maybe it only occurs when all tasks are installed (that's what he tests upgrade from)
[15:29] <ttx> ...check with mvo if...
[15:29] <zul> k
[15:30] <mvo> zul: it happens only on the tasks all profile, but I can reproduce it in the VM 100% of the time
[15:30] <mvo> zul: its also transient, at the end of the upgrade I can restart bind just fine
[15:30] <ttx> mvo: so it's not blocking ? Perhaps zul missed it if it's just transient
[15:31] <mvo> ttx: well, its transient in the sense that it will fail only during the upgrade. but it still fails and makes dpkg/apt unhappy
[15:31] <mvo> ttx: so we should fix it (or at least figure out more about it :)
[15:32] <mvo> I commited a change that stops apparmor before dpkg runs so at messages about apparmor that are red-herrings should be gone with the next u-m upload
[15:32] <ttx> mvo: you can reproduce on a VM with only server + bind task, or you test the "all tasks" install ?
[15:32] <mvo> all tasks
[15:32] <mvo> I have not tried with server + bind only
[15:32] <ttx> mvo: ok, so maybe it's a conflict, if zul can't reproduce on server+bind
[15:32] <mvo> I can start a run for this in a little while, first the kernel needs to be sorted
[15:33] <ttx> mvo: zul will try to reproduce first
[15:33] <mvo> http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/ <- rather unhappy because the kernel can not be downloaded anymore
[15:33] <mvo> ttx: ok, thanks
[15:56] <zul> ttx/mvo: im going to be doing the testing from an iso and will let you know after
[16:04] <ScottK> ttx: Still no mathias.  Anyone else?
[16:31] <axisys> how come I can ssh to a down interface here ?
[16:31] <axisys> http://pastebin.com/izmZ7Ce4
[16:31] <axisys> i can ssh to the ip bind to eth1
[16:33] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: might have found a work around from someone on the bug you linked me to im testing it out now
[16:33] <eagles0513875> this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/559582
[16:33] <zul> ScottK: ping can you have a look at #535185 for me please?
[16:33] <ScottK> Looking.
[16:34] <mathiaz_> zul: hi - what's the status of mysql-5.0 in lucid?
[16:34] <zul> mathiaz_: will be done tonight
[16:35] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: yeah, i'm getting the bugmail
[16:37] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: testing it as we speak
[16:40] <ScottK> zul: Approved.
[16:40] <zul> ScottK: thanks
[16:44] <eagles0513875> pmatulis:  :) seems to be working
[16:44] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: nice
[16:44] <eagles0513875> hopefully nothing breaks :(
[16:47] <Genk1> Hello ! what is the topology of a network equipped with a an IPS host ?
[16:47] <Genk1> I mean where can I put the ips in my network !
[16:49] <eagles0513875> Genk1: are you talking about a dhcp server
[16:49] <eagles0513875> which dynamically allocates ip addresses to machines on ur network for a certain period of time
[17:14] <ttx> ScottK: mathiaz is here now
[17:14]  * ttx stops for the day
[17:15] <ScottK> mathiaz: We're still having some Akonadi/Mysql issues in Kubuntu.  Could you join us in #kubuntu-devel to discuss possible package adjustments?
[17:34] <zomGreg> can anyone point me to some eucalyptus "certified" ubuntu804 LTS images?
[18:37] <mathiaz> ScottK: sorry - I'm busy for now
[18:38] <mathiaz> ScottK: I should have more time in a couple of hours
[18:38] <ScottK> mathiaz: OK.
[18:38] <mathiaz> ScottK: should I drop by #kubuntu-devel later or could you send me an email?
[18:39] <ScottK> mathiaz: Please drop by.
[18:40] <mathiaz> ScottK: ok - will do in a few hours
[18:40] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:49] <realmatt> has anyone here used gpart on a 4TB raid array?
[19:38] <Zider> are there any "official" fix for the problem with the init not waiting for cryptdisks to finish before attempting to mount them?
[19:41] <apw> kirkland, about ?
[19:41] <kirkland> apw: yo
[19:42] <apw> we have some patches for kvm which we would like to apply before release, but after the last disaster i'd like to get them tested before i commit them ... would you be able to test them out
[19:42] <apw> and do you have an amd based kit to test on?  i think it went bang there last time
[19:43] <apw> kirkland, plus ... is svm the thing that kvm used on amd64?
[19:44] <Zider> I find it odd that noone else seems to have this issue.. I mean, surely others must run encrypted drives, right?
[19:44] <kirkland> apw: vmx is intel, svm is amd, yeah
[19:44] <apw> Zider, i think you would be supprised just how few do
[19:45] <Zider> apw: perhaps they don't because of the initscript problem :P
[19:45] <kirkland> apw: i do have both intel and amd kit here
[19:45] <kirkland> apw: though my amd kit is very old (though still supports kvm)
[19:45] <kirkland> apw: it's hardly comprehensive
[19:45] <apw> i may have something which can test it
[19:45] <kirkland> apw: do you have a kernel?
[19:45] <kirkland> apw: in a ppa or what?
[19:46] <apw> kirkland, not as yet... if you can test i'll get some building
[19:46] <kirkland> apw: sure, i'll test
[19:53] <sherr> Zider: I run encrypted on my laptop - what bug?
[19:54] <Zider> sherr: mount-script tries to mount the disks before cryptdisks finishes unlocking them
[19:54] <axisys> i have two interface eth0 and eth1 .. with different IP .. eth1 is down.. when I ping from remote host even the eth1 reponds .. but the arp shows mac address of only eth0 .. a bug ?
[19:54] <sherr> Zider: is there a logged bug I can look at?
[19:55] <Zider> sherr: I'm not sure it logs anything special at bootup.. it seems to run all scripts at the same time, which screws up the order if you have many encrypted disks
[20:00] <alvin> Zider: Are you talking about bug 475936 or 456274?
[20:00] <Zider> alvin: where can I see those?
[20:00] <alvin> Well, bug 456274 (show 'm uvirtbot!°
[20:01] <alvin> Zider: Click on the links and see whether the description matches your experience
[20:01] <Zider> alvin: it's 456274
[20:02] <Zider> no wait..
[20:02] <Zider> 475936
[20:02] <alvin> That one is fix released I see
[20:02] <Zider> sorry, I c&p'ed wrong
[20:04] <Zider> well, it somewhat applies anyway, I don't have any random-encrypted disks, just "regular" ones.. but there's 5 of them, and they don't get unlocked in time before mountall runs
[20:08] <alvin> Ah, 5. Hmm, could you uncomment one in /etc/fstab? In LVM, you also can only mount 4 volumes (in Lucid)
[20:09] <Zider> to shorten the start-time you mean?
[20:09] <alvin> No, the LVM thing is actually a real bug, but mabe the shorter start time does do something
[20:10] <alvin> Karmic had the same problems with NFS: network not up fast enough = blocked boot
[20:10] <Zider> I don't use LVM afaik
[20:10] <alvin> Not enough people do :-)
[20:10] <Zider> I don't really see a point to :)
[20:10] <alvin> Oh, there are many. Even for a desktop system. Snapshots for example.
[20:11] <_ruben> resizing and snapshotting are the most common ones
[20:11] <Zider> I don't use either. :)
[20:11] <sherr> LVM is proving very useful. Better perf. for virt. devices as well.
[20:12] <Zider> I just have the drives mounted in separate dirs
[20:15] <alvin> Can someone confirm my suspicion that the upgrade to Lucid changes all LVM fstab entries to mount-by-uuid?
[20:16] <hggdh> smoser: can we chat about the EC2 test cases?
[20:16] <smoser> sure
[20:17] <hggdh> smoser: I see you started working on them, and already have it pretty much done, sort of
[20:17] <smoser> "sort of"
[20:17] <smoser> :)
[20:17] <hggdh> :-)
[20:17] <ChmEarl> when might this be available for karmic or lucid? http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64
[20:17] <hggdh> much more than what *I* had, and it is alomost complete
[20:19] <hggdh> smoser: I have some Qs: (1) the tests are quite inclusive, but I am unsure on how we report an error on one of them
[20:19] <hggdh> for example, would it be a good idea to add the different models explicitly?
[20:20] <smoser> models ?
[20:21] <smoser> the general "test suite" is quite hacky.
[20:21] <smoser> and much of the tests (so far) require me to look at console output.  I basically run the test-multi.sh and then 'vi *'.
[20:22] <smoser> which is obviously going to be error prone , but is *considerably* better than launching all that by hand and looking at output one by one.
[20:22] <hggdh> yes, I agree. I am trying to arrive at something that can done by (theoretically) anybody
[20:22] <hggdh> well, as long as this "anybody" is willing to spend money ;-)
[20:24] <smoser> hggdh, so the stuff that isn't automated, can probably be automated. i collect enough data from each instance.
[20:24] <smoser> (and if not, we can just collect more)
[20:25] <smoser> i'd suggest adding a directory of tests that run maybe after console data had been collected, before termination
[20:25] <smoser> that could do things like verifying the ssh keys are what the console said they should be
[20:25] <smoser> hggdh, its embarrasingly hacky at this point :)
[20:26] <smoser> but it works
[20:26] <smoser> one thing i've wondered, though, is why anyone would *want* to spend money just to run an automated test suite
[20:27] <hggdh> smoser: don't ask me... there are always somebody willing (and I really welcome them, BTW)
[20:27] <smoser> well, i understand being interested in finding bugs you care about, or making sure your hardware works.
[20:28] <smoser> but this seems just simply a donation to amazon
[20:28] <smoser> but anyway
[20:28] <hggdh> heh
[20:31] <hggdh> smoser: as far as I can see, I agree with you --- one test is enough here
[20:32] <hggdh> smoser: I mean one *tester*
[21:15] <hggdh> mathiaz: I have added euca-get-console-output to your uec-testing-scripts, can I propose a merge?
[21:34] <airliasdesign> anyone here to help me?
[21:35] <guntbert> !ask | airliasdesign
[21:36] <MagicFab> hi all
[21:36] <airliasdesign> I'm looking into possible server OS options for a new website I'm running, and I'm looking to run a clouding setup with Ubuntu as my OS, would it be possible to run 1 instance of Apache with all of my node resources dedicated to that Apache server, then run a MySQL cloud, then a mail cloud and so forth?
[21:37] <airliasdesign> In other words, it would be separate clouds on separate ip addresses and hubs
[21:37] <MagicFab> I was wondering if there is a list of kvm enhancements/new features/fixes that would cover 8.04LTS -> 10.04LTS ? Other than the fully detailed changelog
[21:37] <MagicFab> specifically, re: running Windows guests in KVM (Win2008 server)
[21:38] <MagicFab> nijaba, mathiaz  ^
[21:38] <airliasdesign> is 10.04LTS out yet?
[21:38] <ruben23> hi
[21:40] <guntbert> airliasdesign: not yet
[21:40] <airliasdesign> thought so
[21:40] <airliasdesign> my 9.10 CDs came in the mail yesterday lol
[21:40] <airliasdesign> I'm going to start a collection
[21:40] <airliasdesign> lmao
[21:41] <nimrod10> airliasdesign, it is out in beta : http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[21:42] <airliasdesign> ahh ok
[21:42] <airliasdesign> anyone know about the clouding question?
[21:42] <airliasdesign> well
[21:42] <airliasdesign> 17 days until 10.04
[21:51] <ScottK> sommer: FYI - Bug #561825
[22:02] <airliasdesign> hey guys
[22:02] <airliasdesign> nevermind
[22:02] <airliasdesign> wrong box
[22:11] <apw> kirkland, dunno what time it is for you, but those kernels are uploading ... will msg the location
[22:11] <kirkland> k
[22:18] <airliasdesign> ok
[22:18] <airliasdesign> I want to replace CentOS with ubuntu
[22:18] <airliasdesign> is there any way to transfer the user's files ?
[22:22] <netnull> ciao ragazzi, ho un problema configurando la posta su un server virtuale tiscali, mi potreste aiutare?
[22:23] <netnull> hello guys..sorry, i didnt see its an english channel.. could someone help me to set up a mail server on a virtual server?
[22:27] <ruben23> hi guys anyway i can implement a domain controller with active directory on an ubuntu server..
[22:31]  * genii ponders "anyway, I can do something" as opposed to "any way I can do something?"
[22:34] <jetole> Hey guys. I'm setting up a small HA web server scenario right now. In this case only 3 web servers where all requests will be round robin setup between the servers. What I wanted to know is what is a good way to keep the filesystem replicated across all servers that will scale well as the number of web servers grows?
[22:36] <jetole> I was thinking about rsync but that doesn't seem well designed for this. DRBD is a thought I had and have experience with but I'm not sure how well that will work as the numbers grow. I have also never tried DRBD with more then two nodes. I have looked briefly into OpenAFS but don't have experience with it. What do you guys recommend?
[22:41] <RoAkSoAx> jetole, i would go with DRBD
[22:41] <RoAkSoAx> jetole, sample setups with new cluster packages can be found in: wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting
[22:42] <jetole> RoAkSoAx: Thanks for the advice
[22:46] <jetole> RoAkSoAx: I have another question for you. Suppose I want to configure files to be manages by rsync that typically need root access for example /etc/drbd/*. How would I set this up without creating root ssh logins/keys ?
[22:47] <jetole> or is there another way I should manage shared configuration files?
[22:47] <RoAkSoAx> jetole, you can take a look to csync2
[22:47] <jetole> Thanks again. googling now
[22:47] <RoAkSoAx> jetole, http://www.roaksoax.com/2008/06/cluster-sinchronization-tool-csync2
[22:48] <jetole> awesome!
[22:48] <jetole> RoAkSoAx: reading thatnow
[22:49] <RoAkSoAx> ;)
[23:05] <panamaquono> hello
[23:07] <panamaquono> I'm using opera to do this, is that a mistake?
[23:07] <mathiaz> hggdh: hi - merges are free - so please go ahead
[23:07] <panamaquono> I've run into a wall
[23:07] <mathiaz> hggdh: are you using the test rig for now?
[23:07] <panamaquono> I tried to install ImageMagick on my Ubuntu Server
[23:08] <panamaquono> I need to know how to completely remove it
[23:09] <panamaquono> I tried rm -r and that seems to only work on folders, I'm not sure what I'm aiming at is a folder
[23:09] <panamaquono> I'm very novice
[23:10] <panamaquono> is this working?
[23:11] <genii> Yes
[23:11] <genii> panamaquono: Also, yes
[23:12] <panamaquono> wonderful, I wasn't sure I haven't used opera in a while
[23:13] <panamaquono> I tried to wget a fresh version of it and 'roll out the tarball' and then make, and then 'sudo make uninstall' - that was supposed to do it,
[23:13] <panamaquono> but it's still shows up if I type ls
[23:14] <panamaquono> I also believe the actual program to be running
[23:14] <panamaquono> perhaps I should look for a chat room for that thing?
[23:23] <jetole> does anyone know how I can see whats using the most bandwidth on my network from looking at pcap files?
[23:26] <jeeves> what is the be all and end all way of fixing an apt failure?
[23:31] <hggdh> mathiaz: no, I am not
[23:32] <hggdh> mathiaz: your uec-testing-scripts is under ./+junk, should I just send you the diff?
[23:33] <mathiaz> hggdh: can't you create a merge proposal?
[23:33] <jeeves> what is the be all and end all way of fixing an apt failure?
[23:33] <mathiaz> hggdh: or push to your +junk/ branch as well
[23:36] <mathiaz> smoser: are you using the uec test rig?
[23:47] <isnoop> Is there a command line path to upgrade 8.04 to 10.4 Beta2?  Perhaps a flag for do-release-upgrade?
[23:48] <isnoop> -d gave me "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade"
[23:49] <hggdh> mathiaz: I will push to my own +junk, I cannot create a merger proposal for +junk branches
[23:50] <mathiaz> hggdh: ok - that looks good enough
[23:50] <mathiaz> hggdh: can you subscribe me to your branch?
[23:55] <hggdh> mathiaz: done