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| === Rabbinightmare is now known as IdleOne | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 07:26 |
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| akgraner | dholbach, good morning :-) | 07:27 |
| dholbach | hi akgraner | 07:27 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| Aiween | hi | 21:46 |
| Pendulum | hi Aiween | 21:48 |
| Pendulum | MichelleQ: hey | 21:48 |
| Aiween | hi Pendulum | 21:50 |
| MichelleQ | Hey there everyone | 21:51 |
| Pendulum | MichelleQ: I hadn't even thought to poke you on this, but in case you hadn't seen it and might be interested, http://pendulumtech.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/reviving-the-ubuntu-accessibility-team/ | 21:52 |
| MichelleQ | Pendulum: I'd absolutely be in on that one | 21:53 |
| MichelleQ | all you've got to do is shout | 21:53 |
| MichelleQ | I don't know whether or not I'll be able to make the meeting tomorrow, tho. | 21:53 |
| MichelleQ | Mike and I've been kicking around the notion of an ubuntu-for-the-elderly - we've nicknamed it "Elderbuntu" in our heads. | 21:54 |
| Pendulum | yeah, no worries. I realised that the time probably wasn't great for you | 22:02 |
| Aiween | bye | 22:11 |
| maco | MichelleQ: i think there's a monty python joke in there | 22:25 |
| maco | your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderbuntus? | 22:26 |
| MarkDude | MichelleQ, - my GMA would really like Elderbuntu - its hard to change the settings since she cant see unless it is 800 x600 | 22:40 |
| MarkDude | A Qimo-like interface for her would rock! | 22:40 |
| JanC | MarkDude: better use a higher resolution & change the size of screen elements | 22:45 |
| MarkDude | Uh, I tried that - she is so particular about the dimensions. The fonts look slightly different with any other way. Her make or break app was MS solitaire - it *had* to appear *exactly* the way Windows used to- We did make a power-off button that takes up half the screen (it uses visudo to power off) | 22:49 |
| MarkDude | even 1024 on the big plasma only works for Facebook for her, | 22:51 |
| maco | MarkDude: er....gksudo? | 22:52 |
| maco | visudo is for editing /etc/sudoers | 22:53 |
| MarkDude | Its cool though - she NOW can read 90% of her email - she could not do that a while ago. No big deal if I have to change res to DO actual stuff to - I just need change back | 22:53 |
| MarkDude | maco - I think we tried that at 1st & some part of her hardware would not shut down- There was some cringing when we used visudo | 22:54 |
| maco | MarkDude: how on earth are you using visudo to shut down though? | 22:54 |
| MarkDude | We tried the testbook ways 1st | 22:54 |
| MarkDude | Let me check | 22:54 |
| maco | visudo just opens a text editor | 22:54 |
| maco | as root | 22:54 |
| maco | to the /etc/sudoers file | 22:54 |
| maco | and adds some syntax highlighting settings | 22:55 |
| MarkDude | My bad - I misread my notes | 22:56 |
| MarkDude | sudo shutdown -P now <<<< Rainman on my part | 22:57 |
| valorie | what is the -P for ? | 22:58 |
| MarkDude | /me does not know - | 22:58 |
| * valorie just uses sudo halt | 22:58 | |
| MarkDude | lol | 22:58 |
| MarkDude | I need to have it documented better - I want to have a few of these things organized better - it took us a ridiculous amount of time to get the power button. She tends to open windows on accident- and that stops the shutdown | 23:00 |
| MarkDude | visudo was used for something before we did that. My handwritten notes are terrible. Good catch maco - now I need to go figure out how this will work for Lucid (or IF) | 23:05 |
| maco | -P tells it "and make sure you power off" | 23:05 |
| maco | remember how win95 would shut down and then put up text "it is now safe to turn off your computer"? | 23:06 |
| MarkDude | Yep - it was not happy without -P | 23:08 |
| JanC | maco: PCs couldn't be powered of programmatically back then ;) | 23:09 |
| JanC | off | 23:09 |
| maco | i think centos 5.4 in vmware requires -P | 23:10 |
| maco | but not other distros | 23:10 |
| JanC | IIRC there are by now 3 ways to power off a computer programmatically | 23:11 |
| JanC | and all of them don't work with some hardware ;) | 23:12 |
| JanC | as is usual for "IBM PC compatible" hardware | 23:13 |
| JanC | maybe "-P" tries them all :P | 23:14 |
| Tm_T | -P was "poweroff" message (ACPI?) | 23:21 |
| Tm_T | if my flaky memory doesn't fail | 23:21 |
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