[00:58] <IiLuminated> hi there ... some project got open sourced http://code.google.com/p/macaw/ and http://drpetter.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=musagi&action=display&thread=82
[11:14] <jefimenko> hi
[11:33] <jefimenko> i'm having problems with jack 1.x disconnecting all clients periodically
[11:33] <jefimenko> it is making it near impossible to do any serious audio work
[11:34] <jefimenko> i got it by enabling the falk-t-j ppa as recommended under the "unofficial backports" page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[11:34] <jefimenko> the "Unofficial Backports" section
[11:34] <jefimenko> i think this ppa upgraded jack to 1.x
[11:35] <jefimenko> but i believe this version series has the bug
[11:35] <jefimenko> i removed the ppa from my software sources, but how can i revert all my packages to the latest versions supported by my current software sources
[11:53] <astraljava> jefimenko: apt-get remove $PACKAGE; apt-get clean; apt-get install $PACKAGE comes to mind. :D
[11:54] <astraljava> jefimenko: Or rather, use aptitude, it will keep better track on the dependencies.
[11:56] <astraljava> jefimenko: Oh sorry, forgot apt-get update from the top of the list, that should be done first.
[11:56] <jefimenko> sure
[11:56] <jefimenko> that came to mind for me as well
[11:56] <jefimenko> but i don't have a list of all the packages that were upgraded from this ppa
[11:57] <jefimenko> instead of reverting only jack, i would like to maintain consistency and go back to how things were before enabling the ppa
[11:57] <astraljava> jefimenko: Then start by the ones that you know, there will be dependency problems that get reported if you try to install packages that depend on older ones that you got installed now.
[11:59] <jefimenko> wow, i got myself into a mess
[11:59] <jefimenko> hehe
[12:00] <jefimenko> the dependencies go way back
[12:00] <jefimenko> ubuntustudio-audio -> ardour -> jack2
[12:01] <astraljava> I believe that. Just have patience, you will sort it out eventually. :D
[12:01] <jefimenko> do i have to remove ardour first in order to go to the prior version?
[12:01] <astraljava> If it got updated, then yes.
[12:01] <jefimenko> which would require me to remove ubuntustudio-audio
[12:01] <jefimenko> then reinstall that as well
[12:01] <astraljava> That's no problem, it's only a meta-package, don't _really_ need that.
[12:03] <astraljava> And like you said, it can be reinstalled, so that dist-upgrades may install or remove packages according to the updated one.
[12:07] <jefimenko> i'm having fun already :)
[12:14] <jefimenko> i think i got it
[12:15] <jefimenko> i'll reboot in a few minutes and see if my computer explodes
[12:15] <jefimenko> (very likely)
[12:15] <jefimenko> and by very likely i mean < 0.0001 probability
[15:00] <sobukus> holstein: I hope the lot of bug reports I issued yields more activity than posting on ubuntustudio-users
[15:00] <sobukus> that list seems rather dead
[15:01] <sobukus> holstein: especially compared to your constant presence here;-)
[15:59] <YouKnicks> good morning all...
[17:57] <holstein> sobukus: im sorry you havent gotten a response
[17:57] <holstein> i think some things are up in the ari right now
[17:57] <holstein> air*
[17:58] <holstein> as far as the ubuntustudio team
[17:58] <holstein> all that will be resolved soon
[17:58] <holstein> sobukus: i forget? was this about a firewire device?
[17:59] <holstein> the ffado mailing list IS rather active
[17:59] <holstein> the mail i get somewhat regularly from an ubuntustudio list, is the ubuntustudio-testers list
[18:01]  * holstein bbib
[18:02] <holstein> biab*
[22:11] <openmindj> hi, could anyone tell me when the next version of ubuntu studio will be released?
[22:14] <openmindj> I've been trying to compile the bristol synth and other apps into ubuntustudio, but havent had any success...
[22:34] <tertitten> cheers, this might be a stupid question but there's no ubuntu studio lucid yet right ?
[22:34] <holstein> theres test versions
[22:35] <holstein> you can install lucid
[22:35] <holstein> and add whtever software you want to it
[22:35] <holstein> including ubuntustudio meta packages
[22:35] <tertitten> I tried that, but that made ubuntu back to 9.10 ...
[22:36] <holstein> ??
[22:36] <holstein> tried what?
[22:36] <holstein> adding packages?
[22:36] <tertitten> I installed ubuntu 10.04 beta 2, then all the packages tagged with ubuntu-studio
[22:36] <holstein> OK
[22:36] <holstein> and the repos reverted?
[22:36] <holstein> somehow?
[22:36] <tertitten> he he, no
[22:36] <holstein> well, you got it then
[22:37] <tertitten> I don't think so at least. ..
[22:37] <holstein> whats it doing?
[22:37] <holstein> or...
[22:37] <holstein> what makes you think you have karmic?
[22:37] <tertitten> Ok so basically I can 1. install ubuntu 10.04 b2 then the meta packages for studio ?
[22:37] <holstein> yup
[22:37] <tertitten> and that's it ?
[22:37] <holstein> yup
[22:38] <holstein> no reason to install from the ubuntudtudio disk
[22:38] <holstein> unless
[22:38] <holstein> you just want to help testing
[22:38] <holstein> ALSO
[22:38] <tertitten> ok so I will get the right kernels and everything from the meta packages ?
[22:38] <tertitten> rt kernel, etc
[22:39] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[22:39] <holstein> HOWEVER
[22:39] <holstein> i would not do that unless you just need it
[22:39] <holstein> the generic kernel is being reported as working well for low-latency
[22:39] <tertitten> ok, I see. ..
[22:39] <holstein> BUT
[22:40] <holstein> getting linux-rt
[22:40] <holstein> and the dependencies
[22:40] <holstein> AND
[22:40] <holstein> !grub2
[22:40] <holstein> you can check out how to change your grub set up
[22:40] <holstein> so you can see the grub menu
[22:40] <holstein> OR change the default kernel
[22:40] <tertitten> right
[22:41] <tertitten> I'm not sure I want to do this yet though, cause I've tried it twice and both times I got problems with the pulseaudio server after installing the meta packages...
[22:41] <tertitten> it wont start...
[22:41] <holstein> oh yeah?
[22:41] <holstein> how so?
[22:41] <holstein> it should just shutdown
[22:42] <holstein> and get out of the way
[22:42] <holstein> BUT all that will be changing sometime soon
[22:42] <tertitten> what do you mean shutdown ?
[22:42] <holstein> tertitten: if you want... go to #opensourcemusicians
[22:42] <holstein> and the latest podcast
[22:43] <holstein> is an interview with one of the ubuntustudio main folk
[22:43] <tertitten> ok
[22:43] <holstein> very informative about the future of pulse and JACK
[22:43] <holstein> for me..
[22:43] <holstein> when i start jack
[22:43] <tertitten> ok, I will check it out
[22:43] <holstein> pulse shuts down
[22:43] <holstein> and im good to go
[22:44] <holstein> BUT im still running karmic on my studio box :/
[22:44] <tertitten> yeah, but I think jackd autostarted for me, so pulse was terminated always
[22:44] <holstein> i just havent had time to migrate yet
[22:44] <holstein> i got lucid on my EEE
[22:44] <holstein> tertitten: there is a script that suspends pulse
[22:45] <holstein> BUT the plan is for pulse and JACK to work together better soon
[22:45] <tertitten> that would be perfect.
[22:46] <holstein> for me, i dont really need it
[22:46] <holstein> but i can see how it could be helpful
[22:46] <holstein> getting webcontent into JACK or out of it, something like that
[22:47] <tertitten> ok
[22:48] <tertitten> Ii'll try out with ubuntustudio installation for now,.,., just as long as I get ardour working I'm happy. ..
[22:48] <tertitten> without getting buffer problems and etc in jack
[22:49] <holstein> what interface do you have?
[22:49] <tertitten> SB Audigy 2
[22:49] <holstein> it can be challenging
[22:49] <holstein> you might want to look at you IRQ settings
[22:49] <tertitten> I'm aware that it's crap for these kind of operations
[22:49] <holstein> in the bios
[22:49] <tertitten> ok, yeah that makes sense
[22:50] <holstein> it can be helpful to get the sound device off by itself
[22:50] <holstein> sometimes you cant... worth a look though
[22:50] <tertitten> I have a external sb 24 to, don't know if it's better or worse
[22:50] <holstein> hmm USB?
[22:50] <tertitten> right
[22:50] <holstein> probably a toss up
[22:51] <holstein> i would go for whichever one is easy
[22:51] <holstein> your not gaining a mic preamp with the external one
[22:51] <tertitten> yea, well thanks for your help.... I'm going to install ubuntustudio now and cross my fingers that it works as I hope it does. ..