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highvoltagemhall119: qimo-{session,wallpaper} has been accepted into the archives \o/12:50
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mhall119highvoltage: yeah/w 3014:08
mhall119Riddell wants me to put a version number on the CC-BY-SA though14:08
mhall119so when I make those changes, and have the fixed qimo-session package, do I upload them to revu again?14:08
highvoltagemhall119: nope, since they're existing packages now it's just a bug fix, so you could send me a debdiff and I can just sponsor it14:10
mhall119cool, do I increment the Qimo version number, the Ubuntu version number, or both?14:11
highvoltagemhall119: the ubuntu version number14:11
mhall119ok14:11
highvoltagemhall119: so if it was 0ubuntu1 it would then be 0ubuntu214:11
highvoltagemhall119: you'd increment the qimo version number if the upstream version number has changed14:12
mhall119hmmm, right now it's -ubuntu1, not -0ubuntu114:14
mhall119the -0 is if it's coming from Debian, correct?14:14
mhall119highvoltage: do you just need the output from "debdiff qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu1.dsc qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu2.dsc"14:31
mhall119?14:31
highvoltagemhall119: yep14:39
highvoltagemhall119: I basically get your source package again, apply the diff and then upload, although at this stage you'll need an FFe for bug fixes as well14:40
highvoltagemhall119: maybe it can still count towards that needs-packaging bug since it's just a packaging bug being fixed right?14:41
mhall119right14:44
mhall119I didn't think bug fixes required an FFe14:44
mhall119ok, so you want the qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu2.diff.gz then14:45
mhall119not the diff between -ubuntu1 and -ubuntu214:45
mhall119if you're applying it to the .orig file14:46
highvoltagemhall119: usual procedure is, file a bug, subscribe the sponsor, then attach the debdiff to the bug14:50
highvoltagemhall119: it sounds very tedious but it's not that bad, and it leaves a 'paper trail' that you can use when applying for motu, edububuntu-dev, etc14:50
mhall119ok14:51
mhall119so you want me to just attach these to the existing bugs?14:51
mhall119or create new ones?14:51
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bencrisfordhighvoltage: do you mind if i try and sort out the advocacy team?18:51
bencrisfordi.e. emailing members asking them if they are still active (which most of them arent)18:51
bencrisfordand accepting/declining members and stuff18:51
bencrisfordsomeone requested to join last month, so if we can accept the recent people, it might give us a few contributors18:52
highvoltagebencrisford: it would probably be better deactivating them with a message explaining why, and inviting them to rejoin if interested18:52
highvoltage(well, less work anyway)18:52
bencrisfordoh ok, that sounds like a better idea yeah :)18:53
highvoltagebencrisford: you're basically leading that so it's up to you, but yes I think it's a good idea to clean up18:53
bencrisfordill check it out then :)18:53
mhall119highvoltage: where do you need me to put the deb diffs?18:58
highvoltagemhall119: on the bug report18:59
mhall119the original?18:59
mhall119They're marked Fix Committed now18:59
highvoltagemhall119: see our discussion from earlier :)18:59
highvoltagemhall119: you need to:18:59
mhall119right, I was confused as to thether to use the existing one, of file a bug, since you mentioned both18:59
highvoltage1. File a new bug describing what needs to be done and ask for FFe19:00
highvoltage2. Subscribe release-team19:00
highvoltage3. Attach the debdiff to the bug report19:00
mhall119and the diff should against .orig.tar.gz, not against the last -ubuntu version, correct?19:01
highvoltage15:31 < mhall119> highvoltage: do you just need the output from "debdiff qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu1.dsc qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu2.dsc"19:02
highvoltage15:39 < highvoltage> mhall119: yep19:02
highvoltagesometimes I wonder if I'm talking to the same mhall119 :)19:02
mhall119right, but then you told me you'd apply the diff to the original package19:02
mhall11909:36 < highvoltage> mhall119: I basically get your source package again, apply the diff and then upload, although at  this stage you'll need an FFe for bug fixes as well19:02
mhall119unless I misunderstood what you meant by "source package"19:03
highvoltagemhall119: debdiff makes the diff's between the appropriate files, if you use it on the .dsc files like you mentioned before, then you don't need to make any other diffs on .orig files or anything like that19:03
highvoltagemhall119: ok19:03
mhall119ok, will take care of that now19:03
highvoltagemhall119: the source package is the package that is used to build the binary packages that people ultimately install on their systems19:04
highvoltagemhall119: that's the set of tarballs and stuff you get when doing an apt-get source <packagename>19:04
mhall119debdiff doesn't seem to be showing changes to my source files19:11
mhall119oh wait, I know why, nevermind19:12
highvoltageok :)19:12
bencrisfordhighvoltage: im trying to track down all the recent members and de-activating the old ones19:16
bencrisfordthen ill email and explain like you suggested19:16
bencrisfordand ask them to come back if they can and want to :)19:16
mhall119highvoltage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qimo-session/+bug/56247119:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 562471 in qimo-session "XFConf still uses ~/.config instead of ~/.qimo" [Undecided,New]19:17
highvoltagebencrisford: ok19:23
highvoltagemhall119: hmm, sure you didn't edit the CC-BY-SA file inbetween? the patch for that file fails to apply19:28
highvoltagemhall119: ok, seems like all that needed to change was the version number? I'll just add that manually19:29
mhall119to the CC-BY-SA19:30
mhall119Riddell asked me to add a version #19:30
highvoltagemhall119: ok19:31
mhall119I did re-build using the old version at one point, which is what was throwing me off earlier, if it's not applying, let me correct it the right way19:31
bencrisfordhighvoltage: i think i did it right :S, edited the members by putting a comment explaining and clicking de-activate19:31
bencrisfordbrb19:31
highvoltagemhall119: it's also usually a good idea to add something like "(Closes LP: #562471)" to the description in the changelog, that way the launchpad janitor can mark the bug as fixed when the package is uploaded, I'll just add that for now19:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 562471 in qimo-session "XFConf still uses ~/.config instead of ~/.qimo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56247119:32
mhall119ok, I'll make those changes and re-attach a diff19:32
highvoltagemhall119: I already did and uploaded19:33
highvoltagemhall119: (sorry if you explicitely wanted to)19:34
mhall119it's okay, just wanted to do things the right way19:34
highvoltagemhall119: I mentioned it for future packages, I'm sure you'll have more packaging work as soon as maverick opens up :)19:35
mhall119I'm sure19:35
mhall119okay, well then I'm off to work on my beta ISO19:36
mhall119thanks again for all your help highvoltage19:36
highvoltageand same to you mhall11919:36
highvoltageit's nice knowing that ubuntu users will know have easy access to a qimo desktop by just selecting some packages19:36
mhall119yeah, I'm excited19:37
mhall119but I need to do something about the dependencies it pulls in19:38
mhall119it's like 400MB even on an Xubuntu system19:38
mhall119I may need to put some packages into Suggests or Recommends19:39
mhall119also, something is pulling in a bunch of ttf packages, and i'm not sure why19:39
highvoltagemhall119: you bring in all of xubuntu-desktop?19:41
mhall119no, just xfce419:41
mhall119but oddly enough, Xubuntu-desktop doesn't depends on the xfce4 metapackage, it specified which ones it depends on19:42
mhall119so I may be able to reduce that too19:42
mhall119much work to do for maverick19:44
highvoltage*nod*19:45
mhall119heck much work left to do for Lucid19:46
highvoltageheh, yes. from my side I'm just doing some ltsp testing (I think I found some bad bugs but I just need to retest and confirm) and getting the new edubuntu logo in when it lands19:47
highvoltagebesides that there won't be time for anything else since final freeze is basically just around the corner19:48
highvoltagebut then there's the website that needs to get ready, release parties, etc :)19:48
highvoltageand blueprints and getting ready for uds... the cycle just goes on and on :)19:48
* highvoltage is using way too many smiley faces today19:49
mhall119did you get the new font yet?19:49
stgraberhey everyone19:49
* mhall119 won't be at UDS this year either19:50
mhall119maybe next cycle19:50
bencrisfordstgraber: hi :)19:59
highvoltagemhall119: heh, package was rejected because it was marked as karmic in the changelog file, I somehow missed that20:32
highvoltagemhall119: I'll change to lucid and re-upload20:32
mhall119ah! dch failed me20:32
mhall119should have edited it by hand20:32
mhall119all these tools and their magic20:33
highvoltagemhall119: using dch is good... just keep an eye on what it does :)20:33
mhall119I know, I know20:33
bencrisfordrockstar: fancy seeing you here :P21:49
bencrisfordwe are really grateful for your support :)21:50
rockstarbencrisford, :)21:53
bencrisfordrockstar: if you have any advocacy material to share then there is a bzr branch on the lp team21:53
bencrisfordpeople are around on here most of the time if you need help with other things21:53
bencrisfordyou can find a list of bugs in edu packages at http://tinyurl.com/EduBugs21:54
bencrisfordand im not quite sure what else to say :)21:54
rockstarbencrisford, yeah, I've been through this a few times before.21:55
bencrisfordrockstar: well, hopefully this time will be better21:56
bencrisford:]21:56
rockstarbencrisford, Ubuntu development is like reading the Bible, most people don't get past Genesis chapter 4.21:56
rockstarBut they know those 4 chapters pretty well!21:56
bencrisfordrockstar: heh, i know what you mean21:57
bencrisfordbut then, suddenly, you venture to genesis 5 and everything gets better21:57
bencrisfordits like running21:57
bencrisfordthe first 2 miles are hell21:57
bencrisfordbut then its a little easier going21:58
bencrisfordbut not enough people go past the first 2 miles21:58
bencrisfordhighvoltage: https://edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-school-support - is that an official team?23:13
bencrisfordnight all23:57

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