[00:02] <amichair> ev: I just realized I added the changelog line to the previous section marked as unreleased, but it appears to have actually been released!
[00:04] <amichair> or maybe I messed something up...
[00:08] <amichair> ev: oh nm... I see u fixed it, or merging did, however that works...
[00:53] <CIA-3> tzsetup: cjwatson * r519 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog tzsetup): Use '-T 15' rather than '--timeout=15', to avoid breaking busybox wget.
[00:54] <CIA-3> tzsetup: cjwatson * r520 ubuntu/debian/changelog: clarify
[00:57] <CIA-3> tzsetup: cjwatson * r521 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1:0.26ubuntu8
[05:56] <Matt1> max?
[09:12] <ev> amichair: indeed, I took care of it during the merge.  No worries though, changelog mangling is often necessary when merging branches.
[09:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4070 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py):
[09:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Translate the yes and no buttons on the quit dialog in the KDE
[09:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: frontend (LP: #561876).
[09:48] <ogra> cjwatson, why does d-i always pick the right TZ for me, even if i use a plain US install and dont indicate at all that i'm in germany it picks europe/berlin ... thats awesome !
[09:48] <cjwatson> geoip
[09:48] <cjwatson> thank IS and ev :-)
[09:49] <ogra> cool !
[09:49] <ev> and cjwatson for getting the ball rolling on that :)
[09:55] <CIA-3> choose-mirror: cjwatson * r624 ubuntu/ (choose-mirror.c debian/changelog):
[09:55] <CIA-3> choose-mirror: Expand CC.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com if
[09:55] <CIA-3> choose-mirror: debian-installer/locale is set to "C" (LP: #550694).
[09:57] <CIA-3> choose-mirror: cjwatson * r625 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.29ubuntu3
[10:08] <ogra> cjwatson, so my partman issue seems to be actually a disk-detect issue ... i finally got set -x output in syslog for that, would you mind taking a look ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44009972/syslog
[10:10] <ogra> cjwatson, the "Unhandled fault" seems to happen actually before disk-detect even runs, is there anything else triggered by default when i run it ?
[10:21] <ogra> cjwatson, did you get my above ping ?
[10:22] <cjwatson> no
[10:25] <ogra> cjwatson, so my partman issue seems to be actually a disk-detect issue ... i finally got set -x output in syslog for that, would you mind taking a look ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44009972/syslog
[10:25] <ogra> cjwatson, the "Unhandled fault" seems to happen actually before disk-detect even runs, is there anything else triggered by default when i run it ?
[10:26] <ogra> i also have added set -x to check-missing-firmware now (see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap/+bug/561426) that exposes the bus error but its not clear why exactly causes it
[10:26] <cjwatson> well, I mean it goes through main-menu and such, but you might also just be seeing log messages flushed out of order; it isn't conclusive
[10:26] <ogra> and the kernel error still shows up above it
[10:26] <cjwatson> parted_devices is consistently getting a bus error there
[10:27] <ogra> ah
[10:27]  * ogra looks for that
[10:27] <ogra> gah, no script
[10:28] <ogra> ~ #
[10:28] <ogra> ~ # parted_devices
[10:28] <ogra> [ 1034.439666] Unhandled fault: external abort on non-linefetch (0x1018) at 0x40200000
[10:28] <ogra> Bus error
[10:28] <ogra> ~ #
[10:28] <ogra> ha !
[10:28] <cjwatson> there you go
[10:30] <cjwatson> 'anna-install strace-udeb' and try stracing it?
[10:35] <ogra> ok
[10:56] <zimbatm> hi there
[10:57] <ogra> cjwatson, do you have any preferenc where to add omap in the HW list in libdebian-installer (alphabetical by name or arch or so ?) or should it just add it by gut feeling (seems dove and imx51 were just added in random places)
[10:58] <ogra> the existing arches seem to follow a schema sorted alphabetically by subarch
[11:00] <cjwatson> dunno really, stick it just after dove I guess
[11:00] <cjwatson> then at least the Ubuntu additions are together
[11:00] <ogra> ok
[11:01] <zimbatm> How do you debug something further than DEBCONF_DEVEL=developer ?
[11:02] <zimbatm> For example, I'm building a custom ISO based on lucid, and "anna" tells me that "no packages for kernel in archive"
[11:02] <zimbatm> I would pretty much like to know which package it is looking for
[11:03] <zimbatm> I tried poking around in the filesystem. I had some hope when I found /var/lib/dpkg , but not
[11:04] <zimbatm> anna-install is a minimalist dpkg replacement for .udeb as I understand, but doesn't it unwrap the package scripts somewhere before executing them ?
[11:09] <cjwatson> zimbatm: well, you should start by having the source code handy and tracing through it
[11:10] <cjwatson> but that error means that there are no entries in the Packages file on the CD with a Kernel-Version field matching the running kernel
[11:10] <cjwatson> rather than any specific package name
[11:10] <cjwatson> I'll clarify that message upstream
[11:11] <zimbatm> cjwatson, hmm
[11:12] <zimbatm> I'm using the latest packages from archive.ubuntu.com -> reprepro -> updated dist/pool on the CD
[11:12] <zimbatm> what's weird is that sometimes it work
[11:12] <cjwatson> that doesn't necessarily mean that the kernel you're booting the installer with matches, though
[11:12] <zimbatm> It's like they publish a new kernel, but *.udeb get updated later (that's what I suspect)
[11:13] <cjwatson> and you should also check the Packages files in dists/*/main/debian-installer/binary-*/ to make sure that they have Kernel-Version fields
[11:13] <cjwatson> your suspicion is incorrect
[11:13] <zimbatm> alright
[11:13] <cjwatson> however, the installer (dists/*/main/installer-*/current/images/) does need to be rebuilt against new kernel udebs, and *that* isn't immediate
[11:13] <cjwatson> so you should always make sure that they match
[11:17] <zimbatm> cjwatson, reprepro has fetcher the Kernel-Version tags correctly, now I will look for version correspondance
[11:20] <cjwatson> ogra: can you try applying http://paste.ubuntu.com/413578/, building, scping in the new libparted.so.0.0.1, and running parted_devices again?
[11:57] <ogra> cjwatson, will do
[11:59] <ogra> grrr ... cant wget from paste.u.c ... silly openid
[12:00] <persia> Just use a different pastebin
[12:09] <CIA-3> libdebian-installer: ogra * r203 libdebian-installer/ (debian/changelog src/system/subarch-arm-linux.c): add beagle omap3 support
[12:10] <CIA-3> libdebian-installer: ogra * r204 libdebian-installer/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.68ubuntu2
[12:14] <ogra> cjwatson, hmm, FTBFS
[12:14] <ogra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/413591/
[12:19] <ogra> weird, is_apple is clearly defined in gpt.c
[12:22] <ogra> oh, its surrounded by the #ifdef USE_DMI
[12:35] <zimbatm> cjwatson, thanks a lot for your help. Updating the CD's vmlinuz and initrd made the trick.
[12:48] <cjwatson> ogra: whoops.  Try http://paste.ubuntu.com/413606/ ?
[12:50] <ogra> cjwatson, i also have an issue with libdebian-installer somehow dh --builddirectory=build gets expanded to -O--builddirectory=build at build time, any idea why ?
[12:50] <ogra> its not that i would have changed anything but adding one line to the c source
[12:51] <cjwatson> what's wrong with that?
[12:51] <cjwatson> -O is documented in debhelper(7)
[12:52] <ogra> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35017551/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.libdebian-installer_0.68ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz is the upload from Nov ... it doesnt have that ... http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44019882/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.libdebian-installer_0.68ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz has the -O
[12:52] <ogra> it looks broken that its directly attached to the --
[12:53] <ogra> its the only difference i can see ...
[12:54] <cjwatson> looks unrelated to me
[12:55] <cjwatson> directly attached is correct - see debhelper 7.4.12 changelog for why it's there
[12:55] <ogra> hmm, i would have read the manpage that it needs to be -O=--...
[12:55] <cjwatson> it works fine here the way it is.  I think this is a red herring
[12:55] <ogra> but if thats ok, then i dont know whats wrong here ...
[12:56] <ogra> oh, wait, seems the autoreconf doesnt run
[12:56] <cjwatson> could you let me prepare a new source package?
[12:57] <cjwatson> I'll fix it
[12:57] <cjwatson> not all the stuff is in bzr for historical reasons, and it requires care.  why didn't you use debdiff before uploading?
[12:57] <ogra> oh, sorry, i didnt know that
[12:58] <cjwatson> checking debdiff defends you against things you don't know :)
[12:58] <ogra> yeah, will do that the next time
[12:58] <cjwatson> thanks
[13:00] <CIA-3> libdebian-installer: cjwatson * r205 ubuntu/debian/changelog: Reupload with the right autotools bits.
[13:01] <CIA-3> libdebian-installer: cjwatson * r206 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.68ubuntu3
[13:05] <ogra> that parted build looks better
[13:06]  * ogra waits for it to finish
[13:37] <ogra> cjwatson, successfully partitioned a disk on the beagle, go for an upload :)
[13:41] <cjwatson> cool, thanks
[13:42] <cjwatson> done
[13:42]  * ogra hugs cjwatson 
[13:43] <ogra> now i only need the ugly flash-kernel-installer hackage
[13:43] <ogra> then beagle should work
[13:48] <cjwatson> silly trick for quickly testing grub changes
[13:49] <cjwatson> install new version and make very sure that grub.cfg is configured to show the menu by default, rather than using the default zero-delay hidden timeout
[13:49] <cjwatson> then: sudo kvm -hda /dev/sda
[13:50] <cjwatson> bit twisty, but a lot quicker than rebooting
[13:51] <cjwatson> as long as you make bloody sure not to actually boot an OS inside that kvm :-)
[13:52] <persia> heh.
[13:52] <persia> Would it be safe for dual-booters to boot an OS, as long as it wasn't the runing OS, or is it too much madness?
[13:59] <cjwatson> as long as no common partitions were mounted, I suppose
[13:59] <cjwatson> I wouldn't want to be the one to recommend this, though :-)
[14:06] <ev> michaelforrest: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallUpdatesWhenInstallingUbuntu
[14:23] <ogra> "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."
[14:23] <ogra> whine
[14:23] <ogra> what magic am i missing ?
[14:27] <cjwatson> dunno, can I see the log?
[14:28] <ogra> once i'm done, i want to see where it fails next when moving on without a kernel
[14:28] <cjwatson> oh, I can guess
[14:28] <ogra> i added it to the boot and installer seeds
[14:28] <CIA-3> base-installer: cjwatson * r399 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog kernel/armel.sh): Add armel/omap subarchitecture.
[14:28] <ogra> so i would have expected to be picked up from there
[14:28] <ogra> but i might miss something
[14:28] <cjwatson> that base-installer change should fix it
[14:28] <ogra> heh, thanks :)
[14:29] <CIA-3> base-installer: cjwatson * r400 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.103ubuntu7
[14:43] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4071 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog finish-install.d/07oem-config-user):
[14:43] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Update finish-install.d/07oem-config-user for new location of KDE's
[14:43] <CIA-3> ubiquity: oem-config-prepare .desktop file (LP: #557309).
[15:45] <dmarkey> how for the possibly stupid question but where can i get daily netboot images?
[15:45] <dmarkey> sorry*
[15:47] <cjwatson> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/lucid/ has the links.  the Xen build stuff is only on my hard disk right now though :)
[15:54] <dmarkey> even x86_64?
[15:55] <dmarkey> and the grub fix
[16:09] <davmor2> cjwatson: have the install options been removed from the live cd out of curiosity.  example install free software only?
[16:14] <cjwatson> should be on the f6 menu
[16:14] <cjwatson> dmarkey: maybe 64.  grub fix should be in
[16:20] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3930 testing/tests/run-frontend: Add a testPageNavigation test for r4041 / LP #556180.
[16:22] <dmarkey> modules are there anyway :)
[16:36] <rgreening> ev: are you going to push usb-creator 0.2.22? There's an important fix for Format under the KDE front-end.
[16:37] <ev> rgreening: will do
[16:37] <rgreening> thanks ev
[16:38] <rgreening> ev: new POT's need generation as well for the 'Erase Disk' change... so we get translations (unless you wish to revert that for now).
[16:40] <ev> indeed, I'm going to send a mail to ubuntu-translations
[16:40] <ev> and ubuntu-doc
[16:41] <dmarkey> cjwatson: grub bug is fixed, many thanks
[16:41] <rgreening> cool
[16:45] <CIA-3> debian-installer: ogra * r1281 ubuntu/build/config/armel/dove/netboot.cfg: make sure dove also uses INITRD_FS = initramfs for netboot, else it fails to uncompress the initrd LP: #541399
[16:47] <CIA-3> debian-installer: ogra * r1282 ubuntu/debian/changelog: update changelog for dove fix
[16:55] <CIA-3> usb-creator: evand * r302 usb-creator/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.2.22
[16:55] <ev> rgreening: ^
[16:56] <rgreening> ty
[16:56] <rgreening> now to deal with the fallout regarding string changes in kubuntu-docs
[17:24] <ev> michaelforrest: wget http://popcon.ubuntu.com/main/by_inst -O - 2>/dev/null | egrep -w "language-support-[A-Za-z].." | less
[17:32] <michaelforrest> ev: why I like rubyL
[17:32] <michaelforrest> :
[17:32] <michaelforrest> file << line unless line =~ /^#/
[17:32] <michaelforrest> *LOVE ruby.
[17:34] <ev> michaelforrest: re vowel removal> I had to take a series of AS/400 programming courses in university (don't ask why).  We were told that the list of commands was designed by a "world renowned linguist" to be easily pronounceable and easily remembered.  Not so much - http://whatis.techtarget.com/content/0,290959,sid9_gci827107,00.html
[21:35] <cjwatson> ev: I'm thinking of http://paste.ubuntu.com/413884/ as a general approach to this oem-config removal bug
[21:35]  * ev looks
[21:41] <ev> cjwatson: that doesn't seem to handle the case whereby oem-config returns nonzero, but it otherwise looks good.
[21:41] <cjwatson> set -e
[21:41] <cjwatson> it could maybe do with a comment :-)
[21:41] <ev> ahh
[21:53] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4072 ubiquity/bin/ubiquity-dm: simplify set_locale
[22:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3931 testing/tests/run-frontend: Add testPluginTranslate test for bzr r4061.
[22:46] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3932 testing/tests/run-frontend: Clarify previous commit.