| humphreybc | godbyk, i've triaged all those new bugs | 08:21 |
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| godbyk | humphreybc: cool, thanks! | 08:21 |
| godbyk | Hey, thorwil. Have you played around with the title pages at all? (More specifically, are you waiting on me for anything. I can't remember where we left off.) | 08:36 |
| thorwil | godbyk: last thing was you told me i shouldn't tweak the translated versions yet | 08:36 |
| godbyk | okay. | 08:37 |
| godbyk | wonder why I said that. :-) | 08:37 |
| godbyk | did I need to script anything more? do you recall? | 08:37 |
| thorwil | godbyk: and 10.04 should be text figures in all languages with latin characters (at least) | 08:37 |
| godbyk | hmm.. | 08:38 |
| godbyk | let me see what I can do there. | 08:38 |
| thorwil | ok | 08:38 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I've updated the script to use text figures. | 08:43 |
| godbyk | It will take the translated string and replace 10.04 (lining figures) with text figures. | 08:43 |
| godbyk | It will take the translated string and replace 10.04 (lining figures) with text figures. | 08:44 |
| godbyk | (not sure why that got posted twice.) | 08:44 |
| godbyk | committing the code now. | 08:44 |
| godbyk | (while I wait for inkscape to load.) | 08:44 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I've pushed the updated script to the main branch if you want to try it. | 08:46 |
| godbyk | If you think of anything else I should have the script do, let me know. | 08:47 |
| godbyk | Otherwise, feel free to dive in and start. | 08:47 |
| godbyk | I'd recommend working on the translations that are the farthest along first. | 08:48 |
| thorwil | of course | 08:55 |
| thorwil | godbyk: where do we have an overview of translation progress? | 08:55 |
| godbyk | thorwil: http://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/ | 08:56 |
| godbyk | you can click on the Status column header (twice) to sort. | 08:56 |
| thorwil | just did that. wow, galician before german | 08:58 |
| godbyk | Yeah, the Galician translators have been making huge progress! | 09:01 |
| humphreybc | question, if I want to return three things, but not as a list, how can I do that? | 09:02 |
| godbyk | use a tuple. | 09:02 |
| godbyk | return (x, y, z) | 09:02 |
| humphreybc | so at the moment i've got 'return a, "is greater than", b | 09:02 |
| humphreybc | and it's returning (3, "is greater than", 1) | 09:02 |
| humphreybc | when it should be '3 is greater than 1' | 09:02 |
| godbyk | oh, try: return "%s is greater than %s" % (a, b) | 09:02 |
| humphreybc | what? | 09:02 |
| humphreybc | percentage signs? | 09:02 |
| godbyk | use %i instead of %s for integers. | 09:02 |
| humphreybc | uh | 09:03 |
| godbyk | if you write: "Hello, %s" % (name) | 09:03 |
| godbyk | then it takes the name variable and sticks it in place of %s. | 09:03 |
| godbyk | %s = string, %i = integer, etc. | 09:03 |
| godbyk | otherwise, build your string first, assign it to a var, then return the var. | 09:04 |
| godbyk | you could also do something like: return str(a) + " is greater than " + str(b) | 09:04 |
| humphreybc | i see | 09:04 |
| humphreybc | thanks, got it now :) | 09:05 |
| godbyk | k | 09:05 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, tell me why this isn't working http://paste.ubuntu.com/413530/ | 09:08 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: I think .sort() doesn't return a sorted list but sorts the list in place. | 09:10 |
| humphreybc | right, but I've assigned it to something? | 09:11 |
| humphreybc | at the moment it says "Expected x, got nothing" | 09:11 |
| godbyk | >>> l = ["one", "two", "three", "four"] | 09:11 |
| godbyk | >>> l.sort() | 09:11 |
| godbyk | >>> print l | 09:11 |
| godbyk | ['four', 'one', 'three', 'two'] | 09:11 |
| humphreybc | ... | 09:12 |
| godbyk | so in your code, mylist itself is sorted after you call .sort(). | 09:12 |
| humphreybc | it is? | 09:12 |
| humphreybc | i'm confused now | 09:13 |
| godbyk | it is a bit confusing actually. | 09:13 |
| godbyk | most functions return something. | 09:13 |
| godbyk | but sort is different. it sorts the list IN PLACE. | 09:13 |
| godbyk | why? no clue. | 09:13 |
| humphreybc | right | 09:13 |
| humphreybc | that's what I thought already | 09:13 |
| humphreybc | hence why I assigned it to a variable instead of just going mylist.sort() | 09:14 |
| godbyk | I've been there, too. :) | 09:14 |
| * humphreybc is really confused now | 09:14 | |
| godbyk | same with .reverse(), btw. | 09:15 |
| godbyk | it reverse sorts in place, too. | 09:15 |
| godbyk | you don't have to call sort() first. | 09:15 |
| humphreybc | ohhhhh | 09:15 |
| humphreybc | i got it now | 09:15 |
| humphreybc | http://paste.ubuntu.com/413534/ | 09:16 |
| humphreybc | why didn't you just say I didn't need to assign it to a variable! | 09:16 |
| humphreybc | :) | 09:16 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: yes. you can remove line 18, though. it's not necessary. | 09:17 |
| godbyk | wait, I may be wrong. | 09:17 |
| godbyk | one sec. | 09:17 |
| godbyk | yeah, I'm wrong, sorry. | 09:17 |
| godbyk | it's good as is. | 09:17 |
| humphreybc | lol | 09:18 |
| humphreybc | what's the list method to return the number of items in a list? | 09:20 |
| godbyk | len(mylist) | 09:21 |
| humphreybc | thankyou | 09:22 |
| * thorwil sees a lot LaTeX Warning: Marginpar on page * moved. | 09:27 | |
| godbyk | stupid internet connection. | 09:36 |
| humphreybc | lol | 09:36 |
| humphreybc | http://paste.ubuntu.com/413541/ | 09:36 |
| humphreybc | average(numbers) runs the first test which passes okay | 09:36 |
| humphreybc | but the second one, it expects 7.25 but is getting 7.0 | 09:37 |
| humphreybc | why? | 09:37 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: because it's doing integer arithmetic. | 09:37 |
| humphreybc | ah | 09:38 |
| godbyk | so it's divind an integer (numbers_sum) by another integer (numbers_length) which results in an integer. | 09:38 |
| godbyk | then you're casting that integer into a float. | 09:38 |
| godbyk | so you need to say float(numbers_sum) / numbers_length. | 09:38 |
| humphreybc | fixed it | 09:39 |
| humphreybc | i casted numbers_length into a float before doing the maths | 09:39 |
| humphreybc | thanks :) | 09:39 |
| humphreybc | now, the final one! | 09:39 |
| godbyk | that'll work. | 09:39 |
| godbyk | as long as one of 'em is a float. | 09:39 |
| humphreybc | so I need to slice the list from index position 1 to n-1 | 09:39 |
| humphreybc | and then perform the same thing on it, find the average | 09:40 |
| humphreybc | right? | 09:40 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 09:40 |
| humphreybc | so how do I slice it? | 09:40 |
| godbyk | mylist[1:5] | 09:40 |
| humphreybc | where'd the 5 come from? | 09:41 |
| godbyk | pretend n = 5 or thereabouts | 09:41 |
| godbyk | it's just a made-up number. | 09:41 |
| humphreybc | oh | 09:41 |
| humphreybc | well how about we go numbers_length = len(numbers) | 09:41 |
| godbyk | try it and see. | 09:42 |
| humphreybc | and then go mylist[1:numbers_lenth-1] | 09:42 |
| humphreybc | would that wokr? | 09:42 |
| humphreybc | work* | 09:42 |
| godbyk | btw, be sure to check whether your indicies are 0-based or 1-based. | 09:43 |
| humphreybc | http://paste.ubuntu.com/413544/ | 09:45 |
| humphreybc | "Expected: 7.5, Got: 7.375" | 09:45 |
| humphreybc | "Expecting: 2.75, Got: 2.125" | 09:45 |
| humphreybc | so it's doing something | 09:45 |
| godbyk | I don't understand why you're slicing the list. | 09:46 |
| humphreybc | "give the average of the numbers excluding the biggest and smallest one" | 09:46 |
| godbyk | yeah, I read that. | 09:46 |
| humphreybc | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 09:46 |
| humphreybc | man i'm an idiot | 09:46 |
| humphreybc | biggest number and smallest number | 09:46 |
| humphreybc | not the two at either end | 09:46 |
| humphreybc | d'oh | 09:46 |
| godbyk | might get away with it if you sorted the list first. | 09:47 |
| humphreybc | oh | 09:47 |
| humphreybc | weird. I just ran it through step by step in the interpreter | 09:51 |
| humphreybc | each step seems to work properly | 09:51 |
| humphreybc | it's sorting, then splitting (and the smallest and largest numbers have gone) | 09:51 |
| humphreybc | ah | 09:51 |
| humphreybc | i see | 09:51 |
| humphreybc | it's dividing by the OLD length | 09:51 |
| humphreybc | ah ha! | 09:55 |
| humphreybc | got it | 09:55 |
| humphreybc | godbyk's internet sucks | 10:00 |
| humphreybc | thorwil: you around? | 10:44 |
| thorwil | humphreybc: somewhat | 10:44 |
| humphreybc | we just realized we'll need a full wrap-around cover if it's going to be printed with lulu (which it will be) | 10:45 |
| humphreybc | ie, a spine and a back cover | 10:45 |
| thorwil | nice | 10:48 |
| humphreybc | :) | 10:48 |
| humphreybc | feel like designing that for us? | 10:49 |
| thorwil | humphreybc: din a4? how to determine the thickness of the spine? | 10:49 |
| humphreybc | hm, we'll have to ask kevin in a sec | 10:49 |
| thorwil | humphreybc: english only? | 10:51 |
| humphreybc | heh, maybe | 10:51 |
| humphreybc | hang on a sec | 10:51 |
| humphreybc | (i'm on skype with godbyk but he's just gone away) | 10:51 |
| thorwil | humphreybc: don't take it personal | 10:52 |
| humphreybc | ? | 10:52 |
| thorwil | "but he's just gone away" | 10:52 |
| humphreybc | oh | 10:52 |
| humphreybc | haha | 10:52 |
| humphreybc | godbyk-android: i found it, you can come back now | 10:52 |
| godbyk | back now | 11:00 |
| godbyk | thorwil: the thickness of the spine: lulu.com has a calculator for that, but they're offline for now. | 11:00 |
| thorwil | lunch, bbl | 11:01 |
| godbyk | thorwil: when lulu.com comes back online, I'll look up the cover details for you and email it all to you. | 11:01 |
| godbyk | stupid internet connection. | 11:13 |
| godbyk | I'm giving up and going to sleep! | 11:13 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, you seen this? | 11:15 |
| humphreybc | http://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/transition-updateq | 11:15 |
| humphreybc | http://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/transition-update | 11:15 |
| humphreybc | oh i see, that's just for the main etherpad server | 11:16 |
| Daviey | humphreybc: ! | 11:18 |
| Daviey | humphreybc: Where have you been? | 11:18 |
| humphreybc | hi Daviey, i spoke to Alan earlier. I completely forgot and slept in! | 11:19 |
| Daviey | humphreybc: heh, oh well :) | 11:19 |
| humphreybc | yeah, sorry about that | 11:19 |
| humphreybc | Last night I was like "Hmm... do I have anything on tomorrow morning.. nope, no lectures till midday." | 11:19 |
| humphreybc | Absolutely forgot about the interview | 11:20 |
| humphreybc | I think alan said you guys might be able to squeeze me in after Lucid or UDS, which is fine | 11:20 |
| Daviey | humphreybc: yeah! | 11:23 |
| humphreybc | :) | 11:23 |
| Daviey | humphreybc: no problem, we managed to fill the space :) | 11:23 |
| humphreybc | okay, good | 11:24 |
| godbyk-android | humphreybc: yeah, etherpad has been shutting down for a while now. | 11:27 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello all | 11:29 |
| ubuntujenkins | Daviey: ping | 11:35 |
| Daviey | ubuntujenkins: \o | 11:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello, hope the recording went well, where can i file my etherpad bug? | 11:36 |
| Daviey | ( ubuntujenkins you will have to be quick, about to go afk _ | 11:36 |
| Daviey | ubuntujenkins: ah yes.. | 11:37 |
| Daviey | ubuntujenkins: http://github.com/ether/pad/issues | 11:37 |
| Daviey | afk :) | 11:37 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks Daviey | 11:37 |
| sealview | hello everyone! | 16:21 |
| sealview | I was wondering if I can be any help in desinging anything for the Manual | 16:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello sealview, thorwil mostly deals with the artwork speak to him. I don't think he is around at the moment. | 16:33 |
| sealview | thanksu-jenkins | 16:38 |
| ubuntujenkins | no problem sealview, he is usualy around in abotu 2-3 hours time | 16:42 |
| sealview | I see he is very busy, he has done amazing things | 16:43 |
| komsas | hi godbyk, I see that you updated all manual translations, what about the web site translations update? We want to see all translations in the http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/. | 16:48 |
| sealview | does any one here on-line handle with the translations authorization? I just have a question about it. | 17:02 |
| komsas | sealview: that you mean authorization? | 17:04 |
| komsas | what * | 17:04 |
| sealview | I'm really sorry, I have found the team on the Launchpad, authorization = entities to approve suggestions for translation! | 17:17 |
| thorwil | sealview: hi! the design for the first manual release is pretty much finished. it looks like we will need a wrap-around cover as option, but i will take care of that | 17:33 |
| thorwil | sealview: the only other open design task is adjusting the text on translated covers | 17:34 |
| thorwil | sealview: you could ask humphreybc if there's something needed for the website | 17:36 |
| sealview | thanks thorwil | 17:37 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: I have added a new quickshot iso to the server if you couls update it all please, thanks | 17:37 |
| sealview | thorwil: right now I'm working on the translations for my region | 17:38 |
| thorwil | good | 17:38 |
| * dutchie is back from Belgium | 20:24 | |
| godbyk | dutchie: \o/ | 20:28 |
| godbyk | dutchie: how'd it go? | 20:28 |
| dutchie | tiringly | 20:29 |
| dutchie | mysteriously, my laptop seems to have updated the bzr branch itself | 20:29 |
| godbyk | nice. | 20:32 |
| ubuntujenkins | evening all | 20:54 |
| dutchie | ubuntujenkins: I needed an early night ;) | 20:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | how did all the rowing go? | 20:54 |
| dutchie | tiringly | 20:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | lol | 20:55 |
| dutchie | ubuntujenkins: what did you want the other day? | 20:56 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: I updated the ISO image and links for ya. | 20:57 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks godbyk | 20:57 |
| ubuntujenkins | dutchie: I was hoping you could skype ben if he was on the uupc guys were after him | 20:58 |
| popey | we have bens home number | 20:58 |
| popey | but figured it rude to call him | 20:58 |
| ubuntujenkins | did you get hold of him in the end? | 20:59 |
| popey | not until 12 hours after we recorded | 20:59 |
| popey | he forgot about it | 21:00 |
| godbyk | he slept through the whole thing. | 21:00 |
| popey | forgot to set the alarm :) | 21:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | doh! | 21:02 |
| godbyk | I figure popey et al. just filled the time talking smack about the project. ;-) | 21:03 |
| popey | didnt mention it at all | 21:06 |
| godbyk | That's too bad, it would've been fun. :) | 21:11 |
| dutchie | time for bed, I think | 21:37 |
| ubuntujenkins | night dutchie | 21:37 |
| godbyk | g'night, dutchie. | 21:38 |
| * ubuntujenkins thinks they have changes another icon in lucid | 22:06 | |
| ubuntujenkins | They HAVE :-/ | 22:07 |
| ubuntujenkins | they made the network icon smaller :P | 22:07 |
| ubuntujenkins | I think it looks too narrow now | 22:08 |
| * humphreybc needs help with python | 22:12 | |
| humphreybc | http://paste.ubuntu.com/413917/ | 22:12 |
| godbyk | again? :) | 22:12 |
| humphreybc | I can't get the last test case to pass (with the negative number) | 22:12 |
| godbyk | why not just use return len(str(n))? | 22:13 |
| * humphreybc would like to point out he worked out how to get the third test case to pass (wrap the whole thing in an if else statement) by himself | 22:13 | |
| humphreybc | lol | 22:13 |
| humphreybc | because we're meant to be doing a lab on while loops | 22:13 |
| humphreybc | how to block comment in python? | 22:14 |
| godbyk | okay, so just add another case (after the if block you have already) for if n < 0: count += 1 | 22:14 |
| humphreybc | so an elif? | 22:15 |
| humphreybc | return len(str(n)) doesn't work with the negative numbers as it counts the minus sign as a character | 22:16 |
| godbyk | shouldn't it? | 22:17 |
| godbyk | oh, it shouldn't. | 22:17 |
| godbyk | so what you really want is something like: | 22:17 |
| godbyk | count = 0; for d in num: if d in range('0','9'): count += 1; ; return count | 22:18 |
| ubuntujenkins | btw i have put in an etherpad suggestion to have python highlighting | 22:18 |
| godbyk | (with proper formatting) | 22:18 |
| godbyk | etherpad's not really used for code dumping.. it's for collaborative writing (text). | 22:19 |
| ubuntujenkins | well the odd, this is how you should do it session it is useful | 22:19 |
| godbyk | true | 22:19 |
| ubuntujenkins | I learn every day with python, that way it can be changed directly and the person knows exactly what you are on about | 22:20 |
| humphreybc | yeah | 22:20 |
| ubuntujenkins | I get easily confussed on irc | 22:20 |
| ubuntujenkins | someone is like just do this, and it can go over my head | 22:21 |
| humphreybc | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2KiVe3lQviQ | 22:21 |
| humphreybc | same here | 22:21 |
| humphreybc | I have no idea what kevin is talking about lol | 22:21 |
| Daviey | godbyk: The first pastebin didn't support code highliting, now many do | 22:21 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, care to go into the pad and show me where I need to add another if thing? | 22:22 |
| godbyk | sure | 22:22 |
| godbyk | Daviey: true. | 22:22 |
| humphreybc | =] | 22:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | humphreybc: can't make his mind up if he is coming or going | 22:23 |
| humphreybc | (Ubuntu doesn't like the Uni WPA2-PSK enterprise with PEAP security) | 22:23 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, pad? | 22:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | I have no problems | 22:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | he is there | 22:23 |
| humphreybc | really? | 22:24 |
| godbyk | one sec | 22:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | I see his name | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | my pad reckons there is no one else in the thing except me | 22:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | I don't see you | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2KiVe3lQvi right? | 22:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | we are on different pads | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | lol | 22:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2KiVe3lQviQ | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | oh | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | the stupid copy and paste | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | remove the Q from the end | 22:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | yep there now | 22:24 |
| humphreybc | pidgin keeps adding crap to the end of stuff I paste | 22:25 |
| humphreybc | it's retarded | 22:25 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2KiVe3lQviQ | 22:29 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, negative: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2KiVe3lQvi | 22:29 |
| humphreybc | (without the Q at the end) | 22:29 |
| godbyk | gotcha | 22:30 |
| godbyk | pasted. | 22:30 |
| humphreybc | huh? | 22:31 |
| humphreybc | oh | 22:31 |
| ubuntujenkins | on the pad | 22:31 |
| humphreybc | right | 22:31 |
| humphreybc | on the other pad | 22:31 |
| ubuntujenkins | lol | 22:31 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: does that work for you? | 22:32 |
| humphreybc | yep | 22:33 |
| humphreybc | thanks :) | 22:33 |
| humphreybc | now i'm just working on the next one | 22:33 |
| godbyk | and you understand how it works? | 22:33 |
| humphreybc | yeap | 22:34 |
| humphreybc | what am I doing wrong in this one? | 22:34 |
| humphreybc | (http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2KiVe3lQviQ) | 22:35 |
| godbyk | with or without the Q? | 22:35 |
| humphreybc | with | 22:35 |
| humphreybc | ah i see | 22:35 |
| humphreybc | i'm trying to divide a string by 2 | 22:35 |
| godbyk | I'm not seeing anything on either pad. | 22:35 |
| godbyk | oh, there it is | 22:36 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, pad? :) | 22:43 |
| ubuntujenkins | night all | 22:47 |
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