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jolarenAnyone know of an easy way to add a limited mythweb account?00:06
tgm4883jolaren, you would have better luck in #mythtv-users00:08
tgm4883your welcome?00:10
tgm4883because when I told you the other day that answer wasn't good enough for you?00:10
* tgm4883 sighs00:10
bbigrasis there a way to update mythbuntu to the 10.4 with the cd? (without doing a clean install)00:10
tgm4883hmm00:10
tgm4883bbigras, not with the mythbuntu CD00:10
tgm4883you would need an alt disk, but mythbuntu doesn't have one00:11
tgm4883on the other hand, you could backup your db and reinstall. Depending on what custom stuff you have that might be an option for you00:11
bbigrastgm4883: thanks, if I get a copy of my recording folder, everything should be there?00:12
Mouseyhmm00:12
tgm4883bbigras, yea00:13
tgm4883well00:13
tgm4883you need to backup your db too00:13
bbigrastgm4883: nice, do you know if there's a way to update to the beta without a cd?00:14
tgm4883update-manager -d I think00:14
bbigrastgm4883: seems to work, thanks :)00:24
tgm4883Mousey, open up Symantec and see if you have any locally installed packages00:32
Mouseylol symantec00:32
* tgm4883 slap head00:32
tgm4883synaptic00:32
Mouseyman that's ugly00:37
tgm4883whats that?00:37
Mouseyi can get it to install, IF i uninstall mythtv00:37
Mouseyand associated packages00:37
tgm4883hmm00:37
tgm4883odd00:37
tgm4883ok, don't do that00:37
Mouseytoo late ^_^00:37
Mouseyi'd rather have a problem installing mythtv00:37
tgm4883ok00:38
superm1Mousey, according to that sources.list you were *asking* for troubles :)00:43
superm1in the future, don't mix n' match debian and ubuntu sources00:44
superm1taking a deb here and there usually is easy enough to fix problems from if they are binary compatible, but actually having whole repositories is gonna cause problems like what you're seeing00:44
Mouseynote the judiciously used #'s, and comments describing stupidity00:44
superm1but that leads me to believe they were enabled at one point00:45
superm1which could have caused some package transitions that shouldn't have happened00:45
superm1or other unforseen consequences00:45
Mouseyyah? you should see my debian repo. you'd poop00:46
Mouseys/repo/sources.list/00:47
Mouseyunrelatedly... whats the point of mythflix on linux?00:47
superm1it doesn't really do much00:49
superm1it was to manage your netflix queue00:49
Mouseyah00:49
superm1but with the advent of streaming that's a lot less useful00:49
Mouseyalso, boooo00:49
Mouseymythtv-frontend: Conflicts: mythstream (< 0.21.0) but 0.18.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed00:49
Mouseywhat would be awesome? mythboxee00:50
Mouseyyes, i know. heresy00:50
Mousey^_^00:50
tgm4883Mousey, patches welcome01:00
tgm4883although, I think you are looking for something like mythnetvision at that point01:00
Mouseyah, well i was thinking more like a boxee app to encapsulate mythtv (basically live tv for boxee), which is essentially reimplementing mythtv-frontend inside a wrapper script.. but maybe more of a topic for "#boxee" (assuming there is one) than here, methinks01:03
tgm4883Mousey, wait for XBMC-pvr spec to get finished01:03
Mouseyooooor both!01:03
Mousey^_^01:03
Mouseyyay irkick installed, thank you gentlemen!01:06
Mouseynow if it only came stock with it.. >_>01:07
tgm4883Mousey, you would have to convince me why it is better than irexec01:15
superm1it would be more doable if it didn't pull in 50 gazillion kde packages too01:16
tgm4883yea01:16
superm1if it were just a qt app or gtk app01:16
Mouseyyes, well there's that01:16
tgm4883bloat :(01:16
Mouseyit's got a GUI! easier for the fam to note if the remote is working. don't have to call tech support all the time. and when they do, i can say.. is the little icon there?01:16
Mouseygood stuff01:17
Mouseyirexec is a simpler route, i suppose01:17
Mouseybut simpler technically doesn't always translate into simpler support01:17
tgm4883no?01:17
tgm4883remote not starting something? is irexec started?01:18
tgm4883ssh in and see01:18
Mouseyit gives me a way to say, honey, don't want the kids in mythtv? click here, disable access to it"01:18
Mouseyaccess to ssh isn't always as easy if i'm say...driving01:18
tgm4883your no fun01:18
Mouseyi'm not home most of the time, the wife and kids are.. so it's gotta be "easy"01:18
Mouseyi kno i kno.. i used to run it this way before i switched to mythbuntu01:19
Mouseygood times01:19
Mouseyits nice to see the little box pop up when the GUI boots saying "IR remote loaded and found" or whatever it says.. handy thing to get the wife to make sure she sees before complaining01:20
Mouseyi suppose i could use libnotify in the irexec script01:20
tgm4883or rather you could write a little applet to check if it's running01:20
Mouseyexcept i cant write code01:20
Mousey=(01:21
tgm4883thats no excuse, foxbuntu can't either and he contributes ;)01:21
tgm4883I didn't say the code has to be great01:21
Mouseyooh to have the time to sit down and learn how to code =(01:21
Mousey=P01:21
Mouseyooor, i could just install kdelirc and have an awesome tool that does it way better than i could by myself.. i got the drive space and the memory.. kinda need it for all the media the thing does anyway01:22
tgm4883oh you kids these days with your cell phones and your busy schedules01:22
Mouseyoh, and the 2 and 4 year old who'd rather me not sit still and look at my notebook for more than 4 seconds01:22
tgm4883in my day, we use to wish we had something to do01:22
tgm4883we used to code just to not be bored01:23
tgm4883kept us out of the county lockup too01:23
tgm4883well.....most of us01:23
Mouseylol01:24
Mouseyback before i had kids, that was my excuse too01:25
Mousey=P01:25
ivaneduardo747Hello02:35
ivaneduardo747Does anyone knows how to deal with MythTv and lcdproc?02:37
ivaneduardo747I think i'm talking with lots of backends down the stairs :D02:39
ivaneduardo747Ok, just joking02:39
ivaneduardo747i have just discovered I cant use two IRC clients using the same username on different channels02:50
Ivan747Hello16:38
rhpot1991!hi16:44
ZinnSorry I don't know about hi16:45
mrand*laugh*16:47
rhpot1991heh16:48
rhpot1991!stick around16:48
ZinnSorry I don't know about stick around16:48
rhpot1991need to teach zinn that16:48
ZinnHi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.16:48
xaminyinhi guys, my lspci picks up the following device CX23416 and its using the ivtv driver... i really badly need to fix this issue... i think your the kinda expert that can do this... i searched all over the web... for  a solution... but its been 6 months... i was hoping lucid would fix it but nop it did not :(16:52
xaminyini dunno where to seek help... so i came here...16:52
xaminyinpls someone help...16:53
rhpot1991xaminyin: its generally easier to get uncommon hardware support in the forums16:53
rhpot1991@forums | xaminyin16:53
rhpot1991!forums | xaminyin16:53
Zinnxaminyin: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.16:53
xaminyinZinn, believe me i've been posting on lots of forums for a fix to this... :S16:55
ZinnHi xaminyin, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.16:55
xaminyinrhpot1991?16:55
xaminyinthe device i have is M113 Avermedia, and i dont think its so uncommon... :S its said to be supported by the latest kernels16:56
xaminyinbut how do i actually get it working? :S16:57
xaminyinhi guys, my lspci picks up the following device CX23416 and its using the ivtv driver... i really badly need to fix this issue... i think your the kinda expert that can do this... i searched all over the web... for  a solution... but its been 6 months... i was hoping lucid would fix it but nop it did not :(17:00
rhpot1991!repeat | xaminyin17:00
Zinnxaminyin: Don't repeatedly ask your question more than 1 time per 2 hours.  It makes the mods mad and you will be kicked.17:00
xaminyin!repeat17:00
ZinnDon't repeatedly ask your question more than 1 time per 2 hours.  It makes the mods mad and you will be kicked.17:00
xaminyinwhat is this channel? a support channel or a bot production channel?17:01
rhpot1991its a support channel, with a bot who can help us out17:01
xaminyinrhpot1991, so your not a bot?17:02
rhpot1991no, I'm not a bot17:02
rhpot1991zinn is the only bot in here17:02
ZinnHi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.17:02
xaminyinok thank god17:02
xaminyin:)17:02
xaminyincan i ask you... how do you get a ivtv supported device working under ubuntu?17:03
xaminyindo i have to install any drivers? patches? programs?17:03
rhpot1991xaminyin: if its built into the kernel it should just work17:03
rhpot1991you should be able to cat /dev/videoX > file.mpg and have it produce some video or static or something17:04
xaminyinthats the funny part here... my device is supported as of the 2.6 kernel... but its not working...17:04
xaminyinit produces a blank video17:06
xaminyinblack screen thats all17:06
xaminyinand i have 4 video devices17:07
mrandxaminyin: Wild guess: you may need to find a way to change the channel/tuner before doing the above cat command.17:07
xaminyini dunno what is what here... im a real noob... but pls help me out17:07
rhpot1991I'm unfamiliar with that tuner, but it sounds like it might be working17:07
rhpot1991guessing its a dual tuner that might do multi-rec or something17:07
xaminyinmrand, how do you do that?17:08
rhpot1991xaminyin: so in mythtv-setup does it list that tuner when you go to set it up?17:08
xaminyinrhpot1991, i didnt install mythtv as it seems really complicated to install it17:08
xaminyini tried earlier but it never really worked out17:08
xaminyini dont have mythubuntu installed now17:09
rhpot1991xaminyin: this isn't the right place for support then17:09
rhpot1991xaminyin: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Ivtv-tune17:09
Zinn[ivtvdriver.org] Ivtv-tune - IVTV17:09
rhpot1991you will want to talk to someone ivtv related if you aren't looking to get it to work in mythtv17:09
xaminyinbut people in #ubuntu tell me to drop by here cos you guys are more aware of these kinda stuff17:09
xaminyinpls help me out... i really wanna get rid of windows17:10
rhpot1991in general yes, but like I said before that isn't common hardware so your odds of finding someone in here isn't going to be very well17:10
xaminyinthe only reason i have to login to windows is to watch and record tv :(17:10
rhpot1991you'd be better posting in the forums17:10
mrandxaminyin: I'd search on the forums17:10
mrandThere are people that use that card, or at least, have in the past.17:10
rhpot1991it sounds like it is already working for you, and you just need a program to record and tune it17:11
mrandIt is possible that it is broken in 9.10, but maybe it is fixed in the upcoming 10.04.17:11
rhpot1991if you aren't  using mythtv then there isn't much more we can help you with here17:11
mrandOr like rhpot1991, maybe it is working, and you just need to tune/change the channel.  I don't know if vlc will let you tune/change channel or not.17:11
mrandbbl... lunch time17:12
xaminyini am using 10.04 and i was hoping it would be fixed by now...17:13
xaminyindamn17:13
Zinnxaminyin: Please watch your language.17:13
xaminyinsorry17:13
xaminyin:(17:13
rhpot1991what makes you think its not fixed?17:14
mrandxaminyin: are you sure it is broken?  Also, I would remove all but one tuner and focus on that one.  when you have multiple tuners, things can pop around.17:14
xaminyinin xawtv i used to see the device17:14
xaminyinbut now in 10.04 even that is not working17:14
xaminyini have one tuner17:15
rhpot1991perhaps its a xawtv issue?17:15
xaminyinbut it shows that i have 4 video devices... i have 1 webcam and 1 tuner17:15
xaminyinvideo0 , video1 and two others like video32 and video2217:16
xaminyinrhpot1991, where can i find a list of cards suppported by mythbuntu?17:16
rhpot1991well that card has cable in17:16
rhpot1991fm in17:16
xaminyini'll try giving it another install17:17
rhpot1991and possibly rca/svideo in17:17
xaminyinyep its got all that17:17
rhpot1991xaminyin: its a tricky situation, any card supported in linux/mythtv should be supported, but some work better than others17:18
rhpot1991hence why I was redirecting you to the forums to try and find someone who uses that card17:18
rhpot1991we have a list of hardware that the developers use17:18
rhpot1991!developer hardware17:18
ZinnSorry I don't know about developer hardware17:18
xaminyini've found lots of dead threads17:18
xaminyinbut none that helped17:19
rhpot1991http://mythbuntu.org/developer-hardware17:19
rhpot1991xaminyin: normally the best bet is to find people in your region and see what kind of hardware they use, googling and searching the forums often turn up good info as well17:20
xaminyinrhpot1991, yah man im now in india... and its the worst place to find linux buddies... :)17:21
xaminyinhehe...17:21
xaminyinand the hardware is also really limited over here17:22
rhpot1991xaminyin: well I say region cause of the different broadcast methods and all17:22
rhpot1991for instance a card I use in the US might not work for you there in india17:22
xaminyinyeah... i can see that... even the tuners dont have a region that fits india17:23
xaminyinhehe17:23
xaminyin:)17:23
rhpot1991xaminyin: I'd read up on tuning your card by hand17:23
rhpot1991that ivtvtune I linked might help17:23
rhpot1991do that then cat the devices17:23
xaminyinyeah ok... :) i'll try17:23
rhpot1991or see if something like vlc can help you tune it17:23
rhpot1991to me it sounds like your card might be working already17:24
rhpot1991and you just need to figure out specifics17:24
xaminyinthanks anyways :)17:26
xaminyini think i'll go for a external tv box when i make some cash17:26
xaminyinrhpot1991 :)17:27
ShadyDoes anyone here have any experiance with the MSI TV@ANYWHERE Pro Tuner card?20:32
rhpot1991shady if you don't get a response you can try the forums20:34
rhpot1991!forums | Shady20:34
ZinnShady: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.20:34
ShadyAlright, i'll open a thread there. Was just hoping I might get lucky here :P20:35
ShadyThanks.20:35
rhpot1991Shady: its generally easier to get hardware help in there, unless you get lucky enough to have someone with that hardware paying attention in here20:36
ShadyThat is sort of what i was hoping for :P20:36
dewmanany lirc guru's here? =)21:25
rhpot1991!ask | dewman21:28
Zinndewman: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.21:28
dewmanI have posted a question to the forms about getting a remote working with the Pinnacle PCTV Card 800i. But my config is also posted to pastebin here... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/3vn63eTv I am looking for some help21:36

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