[00:06] <jolaren> Anyone know of an easy way to add a limited mythweb account?
[00:08] <tgm4883> jolaren, you would have better luck in #mythtv-users
[00:10] <tgm4883> your welcome?
[00:10] <tgm4883> because when I told you the other day that answer wasn't good enough for you?
[00:10]  * tgm4883 sighs
[00:10] <bbigras> is there a way to update mythbuntu to the 10.4 with the cd? (without doing a clean install)
[00:10] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:10] <tgm4883> bbigras, not with the mythbuntu CD
[00:11] <tgm4883> you would need an alt disk, but mythbuntu doesn't have one
[00:11] <tgm4883> on the other hand, you could backup your db and reinstall. Depending on what custom stuff you have that might be an option for you
[00:12] <bbigras> tgm4883: thanks, if I get a copy of my recording folder, everything should be there?
[00:12] <Mousey> hmm
[00:13] <tgm4883> bbigras, yea
[00:13] <tgm4883> well
[00:13] <tgm4883> you need to backup your db too
[00:14] <bbigras> tgm4883: nice, do you know if there's a way to update to the beta without a cd?
[00:14] <tgm4883> update-manager -d I think
[00:24] <bbigras> tgm4883: seems to work, thanks :)
[00:32] <tgm4883> Mousey, open up Symantec and see if you have any locally installed packages
[00:32] <Mousey> lol symantec
[00:32]  * tgm4883 slap head
[00:32] <tgm4883> synaptic
[00:37] <Mousey> man that's ugly
[00:37] <tgm4883> whats that?
[00:37] <Mousey> i can get it to install, IF i uninstall mythtv
[00:37] <Mousey> and associated packages
[00:37] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:37] <tgm4883> odd
[00:37] <tgm4883> ok, don't do that
[00:37] <Mousey> too late ^_^
[00:37] <Mousey> i'd rather have a problem installing mythtv
[00:38] <tgm4883> ok
[00:43] <superm1> Mousey, according to that sources.list you were *asking* for troubles :)
[00:44] <superm1> in the future, don't mix n' match debian and ubuntu sources
[00:44] <superm1> taking a deb here and there usually is easy enough to fix problems from if they are binary compatible, but actually having whole repositories is gonna cause problems like what you're seeing
[00:44] <Mousey> note the judiciously used #'s, and comments describing stupidity
[00:45] <superm1> but that leads me to believe they were enabled at one point
[00:45] <superm1> which could have caused some package transitions that shouldn't have happened
[00:45] <superm1> or other unforseen consequences
[00:46] <Mousey> yah? you should see my debian repo. you'd poop
[00:47] <Mousey> s/repo/sources.list/
[00:47] <Mousey> unrelatedly... whats the point of mythflix on linux?
[00:49] <superm1> it doesn't really do much
[00:49] <superm1> it was to manage your netflix queue
[00:49] <Mousey> ah
[00:49] <superm1> but with the advent of streaming that's a lot less useful
[00:49] <Mousey> also, boooo
[00:49] <Mousey> mythtv-frontend: Conflicts: mythstream (< 0.21.0) but 0.18.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[00:50] <Mousey> what would be awesome? mythboxee
[00:50] <Mousey> yes, i know. heresy
[00:50] <Mousey> ^_^
[01:00] <tgm4883> Mousey, patches welcome
[01:00] <tgm4883> although, I think you are looking for something like mythnetvision at that point
[01:03] <Mousey> ah, well i was thinking more like a boxee app to encapsulate mythtv (basically live tv for boxee), which is essentially reimplementing mythtv-frontend inside a wrapper script.. but maybe more of a topic for "#boxee" (assuming there is one) than here, methinks
[01:03] <tgm4883> Mousey, wait for XBMC-pvr spec to get finished
[01:03] <Mousey> ooooor both!
[01:03] <Mousey> ^_^
[01:06] <Mousey> yay irkick installed, thank you gentlemen!
[01:07] <Mousey> now if it only came stock with it.. >_>
[01:15] <tgm4883> Mousey, you would have to convince me why it is better than irexec
[01:16] <superm1> it would be more doable if it didn't pull in 50 gazillion kde packages too
[01:16] <tgm4883> yea
[01:16] <superm1> if it were just a qt app or gtk app
[01:16] <Mousey> yes, well there's that
[01:16] <tgm4883> bloat :(
[01:16] <Mousey> it's got a GUI! easier for the fam to note if the remote is working. don't have to call tech support all the time. and when they do, i can say.. is the little icon there?
[01:17] <Mousey> good stuff
[01:17] <Mousey> irexec is a simpler route, i suppose
[01:17] <Mousey> but simpler technically doesn't always translate into simpler support
[01:17] <tgm4883> no?
[01:18] <tgm4883> remote not starting something? is irexec started?
[01:18] <tgm4883> ssh in and see
[01:18] <Mousey> it gives me a way to say, honey, don't want the kids in mythtv? click here, disable access to it"
[01:18] <Mousey> access to ssh isn't always as easy if i'm say...driving
[01:18] <tgm4883> your no fun
[01:18] <Mousey> i'm not home most of the time, the wife and kids are.. so it's gotta be "easy"
[01:19] <Mousey> i kno i kno.. i used to run it this way before i switched to mythbuntu
[01:19] <Mousey> good times
[01:20] <Mousey> its nice to see the little box pop up when the GUI boots saying "IR remote loaded and found" or whatever it says.. handy thing to get the wife to make sure she sees before complaining
[01:20] <Mousey> i suppose i could use libnotify in the irexec script
[01:20] <tgm4883> or rather you could write a little applet to check if it's running
[01:20] <Mousey> except i cant write code
[01:21] <Mousey> =(
[01:21] <tgm4883> thats no excuse, foxbuntu can't either and he contributes ;)
[01:21] <tgm4883> I didn't say the code has to be great
[01:21] <Mousey> ooh to have the time to sit down and learn how to code =(
[01:21] <Mousey> =P
[01:22] <Mousey> ooor, i could just install kdelirc and have an awesome tool that does it way better than i could by myself.. i got the drive space and the memory.. kinda need it for all the media the thing does anyway
[01:22] <tgm4883> oh you kids these days with your cell phones and your busy schedules
[01:22] <Mousey> oh, and the 2 and 4 year old who'd rather me not sit still and look at my notebook for more than 4 seconds
[01:22] <tgm4883> in my day, we use to wish we had something to do
[01:23] <tgm4883> we used to code just to not be bored
[01:23] <tgm4883> kept us out of the county lockup too
[01:23] <tgm4883> well.....most of us
[01:24] <Mousey> lol
[01:25] <Mousey> back before i had kids, that was my excuse too
[01:25] <Mousey> =P
[02:35] <ivaneduardo747> Hello
[02:37] <ivaneduardo747> Does anyone knows how to deal with MythTv and lcdproc?
[02:39] <ivaneduardo747> I think i'm talking with lots of backends down the stairs :D
[02:39] <ivaneduardo747> Ok, just joking
[02:50] <ivaneduardo747> i have just discovered I cant use two IRC clients using the same username on different channels
[16:38] <Ivan747> Hello
[16:44] <rhpot1991> !hi
[16:45] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about hi
[16:47] <mrand> *laugh*
[16:48] <rhpot1991> heh
[16:48] <rhpot1991> !stick around
[16:48] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about stick around
[16:48] <rhpot1991> need to teach zinn that
[16:48] <Zinn> Hi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[16:52] <xaminyin> hi guys, my lspci picks up the following device CX23416 and its using the ivtv driver... i really badly need to fix this issue... i think your the kinda expert that can do this... i searched all over the web... for  a solution... but its been 6 months... i was hoping lucid would fix it but nop it did not :(
[16:52] <xaminyin> i dunno where to seek help... so i came here...
[16:53] <xaminyin> pls someone help...
[16:53] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: its generally easier to get uncommon hardware support in the forums
[16:53] <rhpot1991> @forums | xaminyin
[16:53] <rhpot1991> !forums | xaminyin
[16:53] <Zinn> xaminyin: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[16:55] <xaminyin> Zinn, believe me i've been posting on lots of forums for a fix to this... :S
[16:55] <Zinn> Hi xaminyin, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[16:55] <xaminyin> rhpot1991?
[16:56] <xaminyin> the device i have is M113 Avermedia, and i dont think its so uncommon... :S its said to be supported by the latest kernels
[16:57] <xaminyin> but how do i actually get it working? :S
[17:00] <xaminyin> hi guys, my lspci picks up the following device CX23416 and its using the ivtv driver... i really badly need to fix this issue... i think your the kinda expert that can do this... i searched all over the web... for  a solution... but its been 6 months... i was hoping lucid would fix it but nop it did not :(
[17:00] <rhpot1991> !repeat | xaminyin
[17:00] <Zinn> xaminyin: Don't repeatedly ask your question more than 1 time per 2 hours.  It makes the mods mad and you will be kicked.
[17:00] <xaminyin> !repeat
[17:00] <Zinn> Don't repeatedly ask your question more than 1 time per 2 hours.  It makes the mods mad and you will be kicked.
[17:01] <xaminyin> what is this channel? a support channel or a bot production channel?
[17:01] <rhpot1991> its a support channel, with a bot who can help us out
[17:02] <xaminyin> rhpot1991, so your not a bot?
[17:02] <rhpot1991> no, I'm not a bot
[17:02] <rhpot1991> zinn is the only bot in here
[17:02] <Zinn> Hi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[17:02] <xaminyin> ok thank god
[17:02] <xaminyin> :)
[17:03] <xaminyin> can i ask you... how do you get a ivtv supported device working under ubuntu?
[17:03] <xaminyin> do i have to install any drivers? patches? programs?
[17:03] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: if its built into the kernel it should just work
[17:04] <rhpot1991> you should be able to cat /dev/videoX > file.mpg and have it produce some video or static or something
[17:04] <xaminyin> thats the funny part here... my device is supported as of the 2.6 kernel... but its not working...
[17:06] <xaminyin> it produces a blank video
[17:06] <xaminyin> black screen thats all
[17:07] <xaminyin> and i have 4 video devices
[17:07] <mrand> xaminyin: Wild guess: you may need to find a way to change the channel/tuner before doing the above cat command.
[17:07] <xaminyin> i dunno what is what here... im a real noob... but pls help me out
[17:07] <rhpot1991> I'm unfamiliar with that tuner, but it sounds like it might be working
[17:07] <rhpot1991> guessing its a dual tuner that might do multi-rec or something
[17:08] <xaminyin> mrand, how do you do that?
[17:08] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: so in mythtv-setup does it list that tuner when you go to set it up?
[17:08] <xaminyin> rhpot1991, i didnt install mythtv as it seems really complicated to install it
[17:08] <xaminyin> i tried earlier but it never really worked out
[17:09] <xaminyin> i dont have mythubuntu installed now
[17:09] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: this isn't the right place for support then
[17:09] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Ivtv-tune
[17:09] <Zinn> [ivtvdriver.org] Ivtv-tune - IVTV
[17:09] <rhpot1991> you will want to talk to someone ivtv related if you aren't looking to get it to work in mythtv
[17:09] <xaminyin> but people in #ubuntu tell me to drop by here cos you guys are more aware of these kinda stuff
[17:10] <xaminyin> pls help me out... i really wanna get rid of windows
[17:10] <rhpot1991> in general yes, but like I said before that isn't common hardware so your odds of finding someone in here isn't going to be very well
[17:10] <xaminyin> the only reason i have to login to windows is to watch and record tv :(
[17:10] <rhpot1991> you'd be better posting in the forums
[17:10] <mrand> xaminyin: I'd search on the forums
[17:10] <mrand> There are people that use that card, or at least, have in the past.
[17:11] <rhpot1991> it sounds like it is already working for you, and you just need a program to record and tune it
[17:11] <mrand> It is possible that it is broken in 9.10, but maybe it is fixed in the upcoming 10.04.
[17:11] <rhpot1991> if you aren't  using mythtv then there isn't much more we can help you with here
[17:11] <mrand> Or like rhpot1991, maybe it is working, and you just need to tune/change the channel.  I don't know if vlc will let you tune/change channel or not.
[17:12] <mrand> bbl... lunch time
[17:13] <xaminyin> i am using 10.04 and i was hoping it would be fixed by now...
[17:13] <xaminyin> damn
[17:13] <Zinn> xaminyin: Please watch your language.
[17:13] <xaminyin> sorry
[17:13] <xaminyin> :(
[17:14] <rhpot1991> what makes you think its not fixed?
[17:14] <mrand> xaminyin: are you sure it is broken?  Also, I would remove all but one tuner and focus on that one.  when you have multiple tuners, things can pop around.
[17:14] <xaminyin> in xawtv i used to see the device
[17:14] <xaminyin> but now in 10.04 even that is not working
[17:15] <xaminyin> i have one tuner
[17:15] <rhpot1991> perhaps its a xawtv issue?
[17:15] <xaminyin> but it shows that i have 4 video devices... i have 1 webcam and 1 tuner
[17:16] <xaminyin> video0 , video1 and two others like video32 and video22
[17:16] <xaminyin> rhpot1991, where can i find a list of cards suppported by mythbuntu?
[17:16] <rhpot1991> well that card has cable in
[17:16] <rhpot1991> fm in
[17:17] <xaminyin> i'll try giving it another install
[17:17] <rhpot1991> and possibly rca/svideo in
[17:17] <xaminyin> yep its got all that
[17:18] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: its a tricky situation, any card supported in linux/mythtv should be supported, but some work better than others
[17:18] <rhpot1991> hence why I was redirecting you to the forums to try and find someone who uses that card
[17:18] <rhpot1991> we have a list of hardware that the developers use
[17:18] <rhpot1991> !developer hardware
[17:18] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about developer hardware
[17:18] <xaminyin> i've found lots of dead threads
[17:19] <xaminyin> but none that helped
[17:19] <rhpot1991> http://mythbuntu.org/developer-hardware
[17:20] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: normally the best bet is to find people in your region and see what kind of hardware they use, googling and searching the forums often turn up good info as well
[17:21] <xaminyin> rhpot1991, yah man im now in india... and its the worst place to find linux buddies... :)
[17:21] <xaminyin> hehe...
[17:22] <xaminyin> and the hardware is also really limited over here
[17:22] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: well I say region cause of the different broadcast methods and all
[17:22] <rhpot1991> for instance a card I use in the US might not work for you there in india
[17:23] <xaminyin> yeah... i can see that... even the tuners dont have a region that fits india
[17:23] <xaminyin> hehe
[17:23] <xaminyin> :)
[17:23] <rhpot1991> xaminyin: I'd read up on tuning your card by hand
[17:23] <rhpot1991> that ivtvtune I linked might help
[17:23] <rhpot1991> do that then cat the devices
[17:23] <xaminyin> yeah ok... :) i'll try
[17:23] <rhpot1991> or see if something like vlc can help you tune it
[17:24] <rhpot1991> to me it sounds like your card might be working already
[17:24] <rhpot1991> and you just need to figure out specifics
[17:26] <xaminyin> thanks anyways :)
[17:26] <xaminyin> i think i'll go for a external tv box when i make some cash
[17:27] <xaminyin> rhpot1991 :)
[20:32] <Shady> Does anyone here have any experiance with the MSI TV@ANYWHERE Pro Tuner card?
[20:34] <rhpot1991> shady if you don't get a response you can try the forums
[20:34] <rhpot1991> !forums | Shady
[20:34] <Zinn> Shady: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[20:35] <Shady> Alright, i'll open a thread there. Was just hoping I might get lucky here :P
[20:35] <Shady> Thanks.
[20:36] <rhpot1991> Shady: its generally easier to get hardware help in there, unless you get lucky enough to have someone with that hardware paying attention in here
[20:36] <Shady> That is sort of what i was hoping for :P
[21:25] <dewman> any lirc guru's here? =)
[21:28] <rhpot1991> !ask | dewman
[21:28] <Zinn> dewman: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[21:36] <dewman> I have posted a question to the forms about getting a remote working with the Pinnacle PCTV Card 800i. But my config is also posted to pastebin here... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/3vn63eTv I am looking for some help