[00:07] mathiaz, no [00:08] smoser: good for you - because I've already scratched cempedak ;) [00:08] good for me indeed. [00:09] mathiaz, since you're here, do you happen to have thoughts/example of config on bug 556176 [00:09] Launchpad bug 556176 in openldap "slapd creates /nonexistent homedir (and some enhancements...)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556176 [00:09] ie, an example config that i'd be looking to make sure worked properly? [00:11] smoser: ie you wanna a quick way to set up a base directory infrastructure? [00:12] smoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/openldap-dit/add-ldapscripts-files [00:12] smoser: ^^ this is what I use to setup an directory [00:12] smoser: and add user/group using the ldapscript package [00:13] mathiaz, ok. that might be enough. mainly i need something that i can test was working -> is still working after upgrade [00:13] i'll poke around there some [00:13] smoser: yeah - ^^ that sets up a directory [00:13] smoser: to make sure things are still working you can also use the ldapsearch command [00:13] smoser: I usually use: [00:14] smoser: ldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b "cn=config" [00:14] smoser: *sudo* ldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b "cn=config" [00:14] smoser: ^^ that should be enough to dump the whole cn=config tree [00:14] smoser: and check whether slapd is still working afterwards [00:14] mathiaz, thanks. i've got to run, but will maybe bother you tomorrow on it more. [00:15] smoser: np [00:32] hi, has anyone had luck getting ubuntu enterprise cloud working in virtual box? [00:33] both the main server and nodes as well? [00:33] I tried it a while back but was having issues with it not being able to use the hardware virtualization [00:39] chewbranca: AFAIK virtualisation-in-virtualisation only works with kvm [00:40] in any case, I think you better use a dedicated machine [00:40] or multiple ones [00:40] JanC, ok that's what I figured [00:41] JanC, this is my dev box, just trying to build a setup for testing out eucalyptus/ec2 instances without needing to pay or buy another box [00:41] ok guys, I'm stuck, and I can't do any package installs/upgrades. How can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/FbsVPMAT [00:42] I've got plenty of hardware on my dev box, but I don't want to put in virtualization at a low level on it because I still use this for everything and I don't want to mess with graphics or anything else [00:42] chewbranca: yeah, I know what you mean, I wish I had a bunch of such boxes around myself ;-) [00:42] JanC, yeah I think the gf might kill me if I setup another server in the apt lol [00:42] JanC, just built up a nas recently [00:42] and with my new dev station we don't need to turn the heat on anymore [00:42] lol [00:42] going to be a warm summer [00:43] chewbranca, I heated my apartment with my home hosting [00:43] jeeves, hahahha nice [00:44] chewbranca, lol, thanks. We were living in North Bay Ontario. [00:44] jeeves: I guess you tried the usual apt/dpkg fix incantations? [00:44] jeeves, oh way haha, yeah I'm over in Seattle, doesn't get extremely cold here [00:44] s/way/wow/ [00:45] JanC, yep. I've tried the dpkg reconfigure and apt-get install -f [00:45] this is what I'm getting. http://pastebin.com/FbsVPMAT [00:45] hrmm... so I wonder what is cheaper, build a new server or just pay for EC2 test server instances [00:46] chewbranca, lol, how long do you need them for? [00:46] jeeves: in that case you might want to try editing or removing some post-removal scripts [00:46] jeeves, well I want to put together a consistent dev environment for being able to kick out processes and setup apps on EC2 [00:47] jeeves: and maybe file bug reports about them ;) [00:47] chewbranca, go get VM infastructure 3.5 and load it on some old x86 hardware. That's all I've got. [00:47] JanC, how/where do I do that? [00:47] problem is my dev box is way beefier than my home server, home server is 32bit and limited to 4 gigs of ram, and only running 2 right now, and its already loaded pretty well [00:47] jeeves, all my old comps are gone... lol, dumped them all to make room in this apt [00:47] chewbranca, lol. [00:48] just have my dev box and dual core opteron with 2 gigs of ram [00:48] so, ideas on how to nuke this problem? [00:54] chewbranca, any ideas on how to fix this issue [00:54] hi guys want to deploy around 50 linux desktop, what should i do to manage them with file sharing and other network stuff..? [00:54] like directory service. [00:54] ruben23, LDAP [00:55] jeeves: how about file sharing..? [00:55] jeeves, was taking a peak, not really sure, looks like you've got an old failed install that is messing with it, I would try clearing everything out and reinstalling the package [00:55] file, storage and others.. [00:55] not sure though [00:56] chewbranca, that's what I'm trying to do, but apt refuses to letme do ANYTHING. I can't uninstall (because it leaves messed up packages), and I can't install due to this messed up issue [00:56] ruben23, LDAP interfaces with samba [00:57] jeeves, weird, any idea what got you to that point? [00:57] jeeves: ill setup sama=ba server then..openldap.. [00:59] chewbranca, lol, I tried installing Amarok. [00:59] jeeves, hahahah [00:59] ruben23, no, set up openLDAP first. you need to build your services off of that [01:03] jeeves: after openldap ill do, samba server right..? [01:03] yes, Samba is your file/printer server [01:06] jeeves: try looking into /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm where "*" is the name of the package causing troubles [01:06] JanC, then just delete it? [01:07] or edit it so that it doesn't throw an error when it shouldn't [01:07] check what it does [01:08] most likely it will delete some files you don't need anymore, but if it does something more complicated you might want to leave that around [01:08] JanC, I think I'm just going to do a fresh re-install. this install has been as stable as courtney love since day one [01:09] my guess is it tries to remove files that it already removed before or something like that [01:10] JanC, lol. yea. hence the reinstall! [01:10] does anyone know if any of the vnet modes modes are supported on single macheine UEC deployments, or if there are any official ubuntu EMI images that support SYSTEM or STATIC mode? [01:10] it's a bug if that causes an error though === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [04:33] What package tells you how many packages can be updated when you log in? [04:35] sorry, I'll ask in the right channel [04:36] Server does it, too, I think. [04:36] I dunno what it is, because 8.04 didn't have it :-) [04:37] twb: 10.04 does have it and it takes longer to log into the system- I already know if packaged need to be updated before I log in so it's somewhat of a waste for me [04:37] MTecknology: hmm, I thought it was a static file, updated daily [04:37] Try looking in /etc/profile.d/ [04:38] ntohing in there [04:38] nothing* [04:38] MTecknology: OK, then grep -r over /etc/ for the static part of the message. [04:39] NICE [04:39] I always used -d recurse [04:39] /etc/motd [04:41] twb: thanks [04:42] MTecknology: motd is static. [04:42] yup [04:42] like you said - some file updates it [04:42] Well, then, it can't be the thing that's making EVERY login slow [04:42] so - touch .hushlogin (should work.. [04:43] there's an update-motd package that is most likely doing it [04:43] ajmitch: thanks [04:43] ajmitch: not installed [04:43] it uses the files in /etc/update-motd.d [04:44] there is stuff in /etc/update-motd.d/ - just update-motd isn't installed [04:44] ah, the description says it's superseded by a pam module [04:44] Icky. [04:44] oh [04:44] touch .hushlogin worked [04:44] it is noticably faster too :P [04:45] MTecknology: that's interesting! [04:45] not sure if pam_motd is running stuff in /etc/update-motd.d now or not [04:45] It's definitely useful info for most people- just causes irritation for me because I like instant [04:46] If it's updated more than daily, it's not really a mot*d* anymore, is it :-/ [04:46] true [04:46] ajmitch: thanks to you too :) [04:46] historical naming & all that [04:47] bug 559582 [04:47] Launchpad bug 559582 in mountall "Upgrade from karmic to lucid failes with Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559582 [04:47] ajmitch: bah! [04:48] Not sure why it wouldn't go in .profile if you want to execute it on EVERY login [04:48] it said it placed a script ito /etc/profile.d which these used what was in /etc/update-motd.d [04:48] & then I stopped trying to follow just what was going where [04:49] Hm. [04:49] Well, I'll be grumpy regardless [04:49] It's my ground state [04:49] I haven't been able to figure out why I can't make ssh login work via ssh key.. [04:49] permissions on ~/.ssh is often a cause of that [04:50] MTecknology: read auth.log; it'll tell you [04:50] twb: I know the feeling - I got into an hour long debate while trying to discuss standardising things - the end result was, screw this - I'm doing it my way [04:50] Apr 13 03:48:45 incipio sshd[25256]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/michael [04:51] so, permissions, check that it's not world-writable [04:51] I tried setting it to 750 user:group [04:51] and I musta screwed up [04:51] Thanks :D [04:52] I feel like an id10t now [04:52] Accepting your fate is the first step [04:52] yes- had to use that spelling too :P [04:52] twb: I know, but I don't want to - I want to think I'll be useful someday === pierce2 is now known as px43 [06:26] Anyone here knowledgeable much about Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud? I'm trying to figure out what the recommended actions are when new kernel vulns come out. The typical apt-get upgrade&&reboot doesn't work so well since the kernel and initrd are specified outside of the disk image, and I don't really see a way to auto update eki and eri images. [06:32] How are they specified? [06:38] twb: from what I understand, when you create an emi (the main OS image), you specify which eki (kernel) and eri (ramdisk) you want to use. Then, when you launch an instance, you specify which emi you want to start with, and then the system boots. [06:40] twb: you can update the instance, and reboot it etc, but as far as I can tell, every time you reboot, you are back with the original kernel, and there is not a way to change it for the lifetime of the instance, and even if there is, it surly isn't automatic, which seems like a security issue [06:40] kees: *ding* :-D [06:42] px43: are these specified as paths? What does an example eki value look like? [06:43] pierce@majin:~$ euca-describe-images [06:43] IMAGE emi-D1EC1024 euca/ubuntu.9-04.x86-64.img.manifest.xml admin available public x86_64 machine eki-12CA1182 eri-48AB1259 [06:43] IMAGE eri-48AB1259 euca/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic.manifest.xml admin available public x86_64 ramdisk [06:43] IMAGE eki-12CA1182 euca/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic.manifest.xml admin available public x86_64 kernel [06:43] Also, as a cheap hack you may want to investigate kexec-tools, which can replace the kernel without stepping down to the bootloader. [06:44] Where is eki-12A1182 on the filesystem? [06:44] the cloud is magical, so it's hard to say :-) somewhere stored in the bukkit manager from what I can tell [06:45] I have each cloud component installed on a single piece of hardware [06:46] I have *every* cloud component installed on a single piece of hardware <-- maybe more clear [06:47] from what I can tell, it's either being sent between daemons over some sort of SOAP session, or an ATA over Ethernet mount [06:48] even though it's all on the same box, but in theory I could abstract it to more machines :-D [07:06] hey guys - whats the best set up to instal for firewall & VPN setup ? [07:06] -- I need the advice to run with so I can get my stuff back up and running asap - I made some mistakes :( [07:07] sCOTTo: ufw is Ubuntu's standard firewall abstraction layer [07:08] hmm ok [07:08] is it best to do a reinstall ? [07:08] i have all sorts of crap on my machine lol [07:08] I have no idea. [07:08] lol [07:08] thanks ill go lool [07:08] bbs [09:52] ... does SQLite have default root password? I just googled stuff like "root sql password" "change sql password" and I got no relevant search resutls [09:52] When I have a command that needs to connect to it, what password would it use? [09:53] Oh... wait... [09:55] Only databases have passwords... I see.. [09:59] lifestream, there is no sqlite password at all, that's just file (MAYBE, there is some sort of sqlite encryption, but I'm not aware of it) [10:01] I imagine the way you'd encrypt an sqlite database would be out-of-band, e.g. with gpg [10:02] Ah thanks darkk^ I have a program that comes with it's own sqlite database... I have sqlite installed... so I try to run the program, it complains it can't connect. I look on the config file, the password is asterisks... ummm... anyway. :P Maybe this isn't the problem... I'm not sure:P [10:02] lifestream, check file permissions [10:02] I'm following install instructions, for this program that uses a sqlite db, but on the instructions, they don't say I have to do anything about the db or password at all [10:03] file permissions? which ones? *tilts head* [10:13] how to print the line N of a file ? [10:16] programming homework?;p [10:18] lifeless, not really... [10:26] maxagaz: ? [10:26] New bug: #562146 in nagios3 (main) "Integrate nagios users with system ones" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562146 [10:28] he meant me, not lifeless, stupid tab auto-complete, happens to me all the time [10:32] maxagaz: sed -n 22p foo.txt [10:37] twb, thanks [10:37] twb, and how to execute the printed command ? [10:37] Are you looking at .bash_history? [10:37] twb, no [10:38] You'd execute it by piping it into whatever interpreter (e.g. bash) the line was intended for. [10:38] twb, looking at a bash file [10:38] like this: sed -n 22p foo.txt | bash ? [10:39] ok [11:10] Does anyone know how to build virtual machines with vmbuilder in 10.04 that will run on machines that don't have hardware support for virtualisation? In 8.04 you could build qemu-based VMs using ubuntu-vm-builder but the qemu option has gone away in vmbuilder. [11:17] New bug: #562139 in nautilus-share (main) "FUSE filesystems cannot be accessed when shared (dup-of: 175689)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562139 [11:18] hey everyone. I am trying to get ubuntu 9.10 64bit server edition installed in a software raid1. But it seems this won't work without a /boot partition outside the RAID, is that true? [11:24] Installed a local ubuntu mirror, testing it out now and i'm getting "Failed to fetch http://somewhere/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch". All i can find so far on the internetz is "Chose another repository", which isn't helping at all. Any idea why that mismatch happens? The Package.bz2's exist, as i can download them with wget. [11:26] cbeebie: kvm and qemu are architecturally identical, AFAIK [11:26] cbeebie: kvm-the-program is basically qemu plus some glue to make it talk to kvm-the-kernel-module [11:29] twb: So, if I build a VM using something like "vmbuilder kvm ubuntu ....", I should be able to run it with a qemu command? [11:29] cbeebie: try it and find out [11:34] kirkland, hey ... did you get to test that kvm kernel?h [11:43] SmokeyD: It should work without /boot outside RAID [11:45] SmokeyD: I just checked. I have a server with software RAID1 here without separate /boot. [11:49] I dunno why you'd use RAID without LVM [11:55] I can't find that he said it would be without LVM. (Lucid in its current state would be a good reason) [11:55] I'm assuming /boot on LVM on md RAID is still Bad Juj [11:55] *Juju [11:55] laen: → #ubuntu-mirrors. [11:55] I mean, it works with grub2, but I wouldn't trust it in production [11:56] Unfortunately, I think you are right there [11:56] I did it way back when grub2 was new [11:56] Ah, then there was a bug. Separate /boot didn't work, but that was even without LVM [11:57] It convinced me that it was a waste of time; just blow 256MB on a separate three-way md RAID1 /boot partition [11:57] It worked years ago, when Ubuntu didn't exist yet. I would rather see fixes. [11:58] Well, I wouldn't have been using Ubuntu === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [12:19] alvin, but I don't want /boot outside RAID [12:19] alvin, that makes the raid kind of useless if a disk fails, because no /boot will be available [12:20] No, in elder times, you just made 2 boot partitions and copied them. But it is of no importance. You don't have to put /boot outside. [12:21] ok. [12:21] Just use the ubuntu-server installer and put your 2 drives in mirror. Then put an LVM on top. [12:22] alvin, I have been trying to get that to work for hours already, but failed. At first the disks were marked by the SATA raid controller as a hardware raid. [12:22] Aha! [12:22] I got that fixed now in the bios [12:22] So, you have a firmware RAID. [12:23] So, now they are two separate disks, not marked by the firmware raid anymore? [12:23] SmokeyD: just make two md RAID arrays [12:23] When the installer says you have a softraid, it's not good. [12:23] alvin, not really. I just got a mobo which has an extra option to use the sata disks in raid, but I got that disabled, I just want to use software raid. [12:23] software raid is fine. hardware raid is fine. fakeraid is abominable. [12:24] SmokeyD: Just disabling is not enough. First, enable the RAID, go into the RAID Bios of your firmware RAID, and destroy the array. Make sure it is destroyed and you have 2 separate disks. Then disable the RAID and run the Ubuntu-installer. (Zeroing part of the drive might also work) [12:25] alvin, yeah, that is what I did. Took me a while to figure that out though :) [12:25] I know. Struggled long with the same problem. It's not something that is documented somewhere. [12:29] does kvm impose a limit on the number of recognized lvm volumes? [12:31] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidSpec [12:32] alvin, but would you recommend just creating /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 for the raid using all available disk space, and then setting up LVM on top of that to create the necessary partitions? [12:33] SmokeyD: Actually, yes. That's what I do. [12:33] also setup swap in LVM? [12:33] SmokeyD: yes; though I'm crusty enough to make /boot a separate, second md RAID1 array [12:33] SmokeyD: Yes, you can then increase your swap at will :-) [12:33] twb, crusty? Sorry, I am not a native speaker ;) [12:34] alvin, twb ok, cool. Thanks a lot [12:34] twb is more careful [12:34] old and set in my ways [12:35] :) Ok, I learned a new expression today :) crusty [12:36] I can tell you for sure that the lvm on top of mdadm works fine. My first experiences with Lucid, however, are pointing towards disaster. I'll do an update this week to check again. [12:36] SmokeyD: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/crusty [12:42] pmatulis: (thanks for handling our support cases btw) Not according to this: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.5/html/Virtualization_Guide/sect-Virtualization-Virtualization_limitations-KVM_limitations.html Might I inquire as to the reason of the question? [12:43] twb, alvin thanks a lot for your help. The installer is now formatting the ext4 Logical Volume. I am keeping my fingers crossed [12:44] SmokeyD: You will now for sure on reboot :-) What version are you using? [12:44] 9.10 [12:45] Me too. Should work. (9.10 as delivered on the CD had problems with separate /boot anyway) [12:45] alvin, I was in doubt between 9.10 and hardy LTS, but I think hardy is getting a bit old by now so I decided to try karmic [12:46] alvin, I just downloaded the iso for 9.10 and made a bootable memorystick from it [12:46] Hardy is a lot more stable than Karmic, but it doesn't have ext4 [12:46] Bugger ext4 [12:46] and the kvm in Karmic is better [12:46] FWIW, I've backported qemu to 8.04. I can't speak for KVM. [12:46] yeah... I'm also starting to think ext4 might not be stable yet. I'm not sure yet. [12:47] It seemed like a lot of people were fumbling with it in ext4 [12:47] hmm, I just formatted the partition to ext4 :) [12:47] You can do that of course :-) But I don't want to lose official support, so I'm sticking with official versions. [12:47] Er, in 9.10 [12:47] I think Ubuntu jumped the gun again by making it the default [12:48] twb, what kind of trouble are people experiencing with ext4? [12:48] I can't remember [12:49] Stuff like "my machine don't boot so good no more" [12:49] :D [12:49] There was data corruption when moving large files, and data corruption of qcow images,.. Yes, stuff like that. The not booting is mostly grub2 beta and upstart. [12:50] alvin, ok. Hmm, well I won't be doing to much large files. No qcow stuff definately (got some vm's on my desktop, but not on the server) [12:51] IMO they should've at least turned extents off by default [12:51] The qcow stuff should be solved. Don't worry about that. But I am still experiencing weird stuff with copying large files. Don't know anything for sure yet. [12:53] Pity squeeze and lucid will ship with an ENOSPC-broken btrfs [12:53] Lucid will ship with btrfs? === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [12:55] alvin, grub-pc is asking where to install grub. Should I install it to /dev/sda and later manually install it also on /dev/sdb (using grub-install)? [12:56] apw: sorry, server wasn't installable last night :-( [12:56] apw: i'm checking now to see if it was fixed overnight [12:56] Hmm, I have forgotten that. For now, I would choose /dev/sda [12:57] kirkland, lack of a kernel probabally ... [12:57] apw: yeah [12:57] apw: no modules found [12:57] also my fault [12:57] tsk tsk [12:57] SmokeyD: I have read some documentation about that. Let me see if I can find it. [12:57] broke all thinkpads ... not handy [12:58] apw: syncing my mirror, then installing [12:58] kirkland, thanks ... i need to push or revert them today [12:59] apw: i'll test today [12:59] kirkland, <- star [12:59] apw: people.canonical.com/~apw/security-lucid/ [12:59] apw: is that right? [12:59] ack [13:00] alvin, the system boots fine. INdeed I needed to install it to /dev/sda. I now did a manual "grub-install /dev/sdb" [13:00] smoser: around? [13:00] smoser: apw has a couple of kvm updates in the kernel he needs tested ASAP [13:00] SmokeyD: I think you can now adapt grub, so that you can boot from both drives. [13:00] I am going to remove the sata cable for sda, see if the system stays alive (mdadm -D /dev/md0 looks fine) [13:00] smoser: i'm wondering if you can drop them into your UEC (images, as well as hosts) along with me [13:01] SmokeyD: Let us know how it goes [13:01] kirkland: hey [13:01] ttx: howdy [13:01] kirkland: so I read your demo went well last weekend ? [13:02] What I need to do exactly when changing VNET settings on a node? Just restart eucalyptus-nc? [13:02] ttx: yeah, i was happy with it [13:02] cool [13:02] alvin, it works. THe system stayed alive when I removed the cable of sda, and also reboots fine [13:02] SmokeyD: Cool! [13:03] alvin, thanks a lot for your help. [13:03] apw: linux-headers-2.6.32-21-server_2.6.32-21.31~security201004122115_amd64.deb [13:03] linux-image-2.6.32-21-server_2.6.32-21.31~security201004122115_amd64.deb [13:03] apw: that's the two binaries I need to install? [13:03] (btw, that directory is a confusing mess) [13:03] SmokeyD: You're welcome [13:03] you only need the linux-image if you don't have prop h/w [13:04] kirkland, and yes it is ... i think i have old builds in there ... HRM tooling spammage [13:05] apw: k [13:06] kirkland, is that better [13:15] Ok, I am off to get a coffee and lunch on a terrace in the sun somewhere :) [13:16] you don't have to tell us that really :) [13:22] apw: installing happily today [13:22] yeah a new kernel was force fed into the system to fix it up === local_oste is now known as e-DIO-t [13:26] kirkland, here [13:26] smoser: i'm doing the same now [13:26] smoser: on my laptop, and in my cloud [13:27] kirkland, we can do that today, yeah. what do you need? [13:27] smoser: apw has kernsl at http://people.canonical.com/~apw/security-lucid/ [13:27] smoser: these need to either be published to lucid today, or tabled for an SRU [13:27] smoser: some kvm security issues fixed in there [13:28] smoser: sounds fairly high priority to make sure these kernels work as our virt hosts and guest [13:29] kirkland, ok. i can install them onto the my 2 systems hosts and will use the kernel for guest [13:29] smoser: thanks [13:29] but i've got to take a 30 minute break here in 5 minutes [13:34] alvin: you can theoretically use btrfs in karmic [13:35] alvin: but even in lucid it is considered highly experimental [13:35] pmatulis: Thanks, in that case, I'll wait a bit. I'm curious about btrfs though. Let's see how long I can wait :-) [13:35] kirkland, quickly, stupid grub2 question [13:35] alvin: package is btrfs-tools [13:36] how do i tell it to boot the kernel i just installed [13:36] never mind. i'm guessing it will, as its the newest by version number. [13:36] * alvin is thinking. Maybe with a nice backup... Only for personal use... (but no, experimental file systems are dangerous toys) [13:38] alvin: it is known to not work with a lot of userspace stuff (boot loader being one example) [13:39] I thought as much. Well, patience is a virtue. I'm sure btrfs will be a success. [14:06] New bug: #562261 in krb5 (main) "Sync krb5 1.8.1+dfsg-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562261 === arm is now known as Guest84351 [14:31] Hi, I have swithed on my ubuntu server but the startup fails after the following: init: ureadahead-other... status 4. Any clue? [14:31] Thanks [14:35] smoser: is there any documentation about cloud-init config syntax, other than the examples in the cloud-init branch ? Do you plan to write some wikidoc ? [14:36] there isn't doc other than in the source, no. I can write some wiki doc. I think the examples are reasonably good, wiki doc would mostly just mimic them [14:37] smoser: I care more about discoverability of the feature, tbh [14:37] smoser: At this point you have to know about it to discover it exists [14:37] this is a fair point. [14:38] smoser: maybe updating/linkingfrom EC2StartersGuide would improve that [14:38] it's a significant part of what makes Ubuntu server cloud friendly, we need it to be more apparent [14:39] ttx, i'll try to put something together for that today. [14:39] just fyi, i did do a blog entry [14:39] smoser: no hurry, but before release, definitely. Some blogging could also help. [14:39] i'm sure that at least 3 people have read it :) [14:39] ah :) [14:39] http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/ [14:40] smoser: you need some killer title, like "Why Ubuntu doesn't suck in cloud" [14:40] that 3 includes myself and my mom though [14:40] let's make that 4 [14:40] are you syndicated to ubuntu planet ? [14:40] no. i need to do that. syndicated to cloud-planet now. [14:41] ok [14:41] i actually wasn't sure if, as a non ubuntu member, i was allowed to be syndicated to planet ubuntu [14:42] how about "deep thoughts by jack handy"? [14:49] smoser: you need to be an Ubuntu member, AFAICR [14:49] smoser: why don't you apply? [14:51] hggdh, the application is being worked on [14:51] :) [14:51] of course everone here iwll flock to give testimony for me [14:52] certainly. And you *do* have the requisites [14:53] smoser: OTOH, I can be syndicated, but I do not blog [14:54] alvin: that's the spirit [14:54] hggdh, i dont understand, if you don't blog how do you communicate with people ? [14:54] oh... you must facebook [14:54] :) [15:03] smoser: sorry, was doing an interview [15:03] smoser: you get grub figured out? [15:03] yeah, it "just worked". i didn't dig for where that was. when i looked i thought i was installing a kernel that wasn't going to be newest [15:03] smoser, ttx: I'm testing apw's kernels ... my guests are not network accessible, looks like the plymouth issue, though [15:03] and that i'd have to manually tell grub to boot that one [15:04] kirkland, oh? [15:04] smoser: http://pastebin.com/XAq4tMtM [15:04] smoser: $ ssh 10.1.1.100 [15:04] Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer [15:04] smoser: but it's pingable [15:05] kirkland: the plymouth issue ? You mean, the one that prevents login prompt ? [15:05] kirkland: that one doesn't block SSh, fwiw [15:05] hm... i dont' know what would have cauesd your failure there. [15:05] ttx: hrm, okay [15:05] ttx: smoser: okay, so kvm is running, guest is pingable, i've authorized port 22 [15:05] you've definitely run some of the user space cloud-inti code (Generating locales... INFO: Successfully authorized...) [15:05] ttx: smoser: but i can't ssh to it [15:06] smoser: it was able to call out to ssh-import-lp-id of kirkland [15:06] right. which runs well after ssh should hav started [15:07] i'm testing here. [15:07] smoser: interesting, i can telnet to 22 [15:07] SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu3 [15:07] smoser: but ssh resets the connection [15:08]