[02:10] <daeo> holass, solo quiero saber si tambien ayudan en idioma español
[09:33] <bencrisford> morning
[13:56] <mhall119> morning
[13:58] <highvoltage> morning mhall119
[14:01] <mhall119> I'm still trying to find some documentation on plymouth theming
[14:01] <mhall119> I can just replace the images in the Ubuntu theme, and use progress dots
[14:01] <mhall119> but I'd really like to learn about the other engines
[14:02] <mhall119> the script for the ubuntu theme is so much larger than the old USplash
[15:19] <highvoltage> mhall119: yep, it is indeed
[18:54] <bencrisford> highvoltage: the meetings in 1 hour yeah?  i get my time zones muddled up
[18:55] <alkisg> bencrisford: in 5'
[18:55] <bencrisford> alkisg: minutes :S??
[18:55] <alkisg> :)
[18:57] <bencrisford> alkisg: i only make it 6pm UTC
[18:58] <bencrisford> according to date -u
[18:58] <bencrisford> ben@Aurelia:~$ date -u
[18:58] <bencrisford> Wed Apr 14 17:58:04 UTC 2010
[18:58] <alkisg> Yes, why, did the meeting time change?
[18:58] <alkisg> Wasn't it always at 6?
[18:58] <bencrisford> hmm
[18:58] <bencrisford> i think it was when i was about in november yeah
[18:59] <alkisg> Erm, sorry, maybe I got comfused with the daylight savings etc
[18:59] <bencrisford> thats why i was worried, stupid daylight savings :P
[18:59] <alkisg> (i'm looking at Greece time always, not the utc time, so it might have been 7 :))
[18:59] <bencrisford> but then i thought of date -u
[18:59] <bencrisford> i think it was 6 UTC though
[18:59] <bencrisford> maybe not
[19:00] <alkisg> Right, 19:00 UTC
[19:00] <alkisg> So in 1 hour
[19:01] <bencrisford> yeah :)
[19:02] <bencrisford> not really time for a snooze
[19:02] <bencrisford> time for a walk, and time for a coffee
[19:58] <highvoltage> Edubuntu Meeting starting in 2 minutes
[20:02] <bencrisford> :)
[20:02] <bencrisford> rockstar: you gonna make it to the meeting
[20:02] <bencrisford> starts about now on #ubuntu-meeting
[20:02] <alkisg> and also stgraber, sbalneav, nixternal... ^^^
[21:06]  * bencrisford is downloading qimo :)
[21:07] <mhall119> the 1.0 is based on Ubuntu 8.10
[21:08] <bencrisford> cool
[21:08] <vmlintu> I was just reading through the meeting discussions and noticed some wishlist stuff. Did it get uploaded to wiki yet or was that about to come?
[21:09] <bencrisford> mhall119: im gonna install it on my old laptop (which i like to call my "research" machine), which is where i experiment with different distros and have a hack around and stuff
[21:09] <mhall119> there's an alpha of 2.0 on bittorrent
[21:09] <mhall119> bencrisford: you'll need at least 192MB of memory
[21:09] <mhall119> it's LiveCD only
[21:09] <bencrisford> oh
[21:09] <bencrisford> that suits me
[21:10] <bencrisford> i have 256mb
[21:10] <bencrisford> and i only install antix yesterday
[21:10] <bencrisford> havent had a chance to play about on it yet
[21:10] <bencrisford> i dont bother with dual boot
[21:10] <bencrisford> not sure it could even cope with it, poor old thing
[21:13] <bencrisford> mhall119: the iso is dl'ing pretty fast for me
[21:13] <mhall119> using a mirror or BT?
[21:13] <bencrisford> mirror
[21:13] <bencrisford> UK
[21:13] <mhall119> which one?
[21:13] <mhall119> cool
[21:14] <bencrisford> mhall119: up to 750 kb/s
[21:14] <mhall119> good
[21:15] <mhall119> I don't test my mirrors regularly, every once in a while I get an email from a user letting me know one has gone down
[21:16] <bencrisford> mhall119: well the UK one is faster than most you get these days
[21:16] <mhall119> not surprised
[21:17] <mhall119> I finally got a good USA mirror
[21:17] <mhall119> that's what gets most of the traffic
[21:18] <bencrisford> mhall119: should i be downloading version 2 then?
[21:18] <bencrisford> im getting v1.0
[21:19] <bencrisford> is 2 the one that needs testing?
[21:20] <mhall119> yes
[21:20] <mhall119> version 1 will be end-of-life just as quickly as I can make it
[21:21] <mhall119> http://growingupfree.org/qimo-2.0-desktop-alpha2.iso.torrent
[21:21] <bencrisford> mhall119: ill check out 2 later, im gonna try 1 first though cos its nearly complete
[21:21] <mhall119> 1 is stable and works, if you have kids use that
[21:22] <mhall119> 2 is coming along, I am working on beta1 iso
[21:22] <mhall119> the alpha on BT doesn't have the new artwork
[21:22] <bencrisford> haha, im still in school kids can wait :P
[21:23] <bencrisford> but i do have little cousins who are sometimes here
[21:23] <bencrisford> they love gcompris and stuff
[21:24] <mhall119> yeah, gcompris is great
[21:24] <mhall119> it's great to have on a LiveCD for people who only have kids over infrequently
[21:25] <bencrisford> yeah
[21:25] <bencrisford> i have it installed in my ubuntu because i have all the edu packages
[21:26] <bencrisford> download finished
[21:26] <bencrisford> time to burn it :)
[21:26] <bencrisford> highvoltage: those notes were quick
[21:28] <highvoltage> bencrisford: I made them during the meeting :)
[21:29] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok cool
[21:29] <highvoltage> vmlintu: it's not on the wiki yet, but it will be in about a week or so
[21:29] <bencrisford> highvoltage: i dont mean to be pedantic, but grantbow appears twice at the list of attendees :P
[21:29] <bencrisford> or even three times
[21:30] <highvoltage> bencrisford: heh, oops, I should perhaps review it before posting, which I usually do but didn't tonight
[21:30] <vmlintu> highvoltage: ok.. there was some months ago talk about ldap integration, is that on your list?
[21:31] <bencrisford> highvoltage: well its better to make minor errors like that than make bigger slip ups like i tend to do :)
[21:32] <bencrisford> and im not sure my qcad menu bug was worthy of a mention :P, but i dont mind :), it makes me feel special
[21:32] <highvoltage> vmlintu: not yet, but my list is purely wishlist, and anyone can add wishlist items, for my wishlist I'm only adding things I know I can work on, and my ldap knowledge is sparse
[21:33] <highvoltage> vmlintu: you're welcome to attend next week's meeting and add it to the big list we're going to put together, otherwise you can suggest it on the mailing list as well and we'll add it too
[21:33] <highvoltage> bencrisford: it was something technical that's happening, if someone's working on something I feel that it's worth while mentioning :)
[21:34] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok, fair enough :)
[21:34] <bencrisford> i might ask for someone to take a second look at that later, so i guess it is revelevent
[21:34] <bencrisford> i dont get what the problem is
[21:35] <bencrisford> i have edited the .desktop file, fixed it, validated it and it still doesnt work
[21:35] <bencrisford> ive tried other things to
[21:35] <bencrisford> but no luck :(
[21:37] <vmlintu> highvoltage: I've been working on new ldap setup tool to get actually working ldap setup on top of openldap. The goal is to get desktop and web applications integrated with it so that the same user information is available for everything easily. Focusing on the easy part.
[21:37] <sbalneav> Afternoon all
[21:37] <bencrisford> sbalneav: evening
[21:39] <vmlintu> But I'll post about that on the mailing lists. Over here it seems like no-one wants more desktop applications, but integration for gazillion webapps only..
[21:48] <highvoltage> vmlintu: nice, that certainly is in high demand
[21:51] <highvoltage> vmlintu: what does the tool currently do?
[21:52] <vmlintu> highvoltage: there are actually many at the moment - one sets up openldap with required schemas, configures the database, adds the required base entries etc..
[21:52] <vmlintu> It also does kerberos server setup etc
[21:54] <vmlintu> Then we have web based ldap user management tool that uses the database. It hides the whole ldap from the admin and is for schools only - it has schools, class groups, teacher information etc..
[21:54] <highvoltage> vmlintu: hmm... are you familiar with blueprints in launchpad and ubuntu specifications?
[21:54] <vmlintu> Yes, I've read through them, but they are all ages old
[21:55] <highvoltage> vmlintu: I think you should perhaps create a new one and add it for the UDS
[21:55] <vmlintu> Third part will be the webapp integration using CAS+OpenID+OAuth+SAML using the ldap+kerberos setup as backend
[21:56] <vmlintu> The setup tool is almost ready, it just creates broken kerberos configurations if you have more than one realm
[21:56] <vmlintu> The user management tool is coming together and we hope to get it out during this month
[21:56] <highvoltage> vmlintu: ok, if you can keep it as packagable as possible (or even better, get it packaged) that will make it easier to get in as well
[21:57] <highvoltage> vmlintu: will you be able to attend the next edubuntu meeting?
[21:58] <highvoltage> (brb)
[21:58] <vmlintu> The user management tool is done using ruby+rails, so I'm not sure how that'd get packaged
[21:59] <vmlintu> highvoltage: when's the next meeting?
[22:01] <highvoltage> vmlintu: next wednesday 19:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting
[22:02] <vmlintu> that's probably ok, but I cannot say for sure yet
[22:02] <highvoltage> vmlintu: sometimes packaging certain tools can be quite tedious (I'm thinking schooltool and some sms webapps and ibid) because they depend on a bunch of other stuff that's not yet packaged that also needs to be packaged (which in some cases even have their own dependencies that need to be packaged)
[22:03] <highvoltage> vmlintu: but it's something we can work towards
[22:03] <vmlintu> I've been writing about the setup in blog here: http://www.opinsys.fi/en/category/developers-blog
[22:03] <highvoltage> vmlintu: sbalneav is also worth speaking to, he had previous LDAP plans for Ubuntu and I'm sure he's still serious about it
[22:04] <highvoltage> vmlintu: I'll subscribe and catch up
[22:04] <vmlintu> highvoltage: we are scratching our itch here.. the itch is just quite bad and large.. ;)
[22:05] <highvoltage> vmlintu: yep, no denying that!
[22:06] <highvoltage> vmlintu: if we find lots of rough edges, we could perhaps do something similar to what we did with Qimo in this release. first get the packages in to the archives, and then add an option for it in future releases
[22:06] <highvoltage> vmlintu: getting it into the archives would already allow for much larger testing
[22:08] <vmlintu> The whole thing is spreading all the time.. we already have one patch for slapd to get mit kerberos working better with it..
[22:09] <highvoltage> yeah that's a killer feature
[22:10] <vmlintu> we are already running hardy with all this, but it needs serious cleanups..
[22:12] <vmlintu> so we are basically rewriting the tools to better support it all..
[23:43] <alkisg> stgraber: there's an updated udhcpc in http://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/networking/udhcp/dhcpc.c?h=1_16_stable&id=53283adb24765a7afb4d6298661c3c1a8d6f5601
[23:43] <alkisg> The Ubuntu version dates back to 2005, but the one above is being maintained inside busybox
[23:43] <alkisg> ...and it supports a -C parameter which is exactly what we want (==doesn't send a client id at all)
[23:44] <alkisg> Can we compile busybox with udhcpc support? Or at least update the udhcp package in ubuntu?