[00:00] <randomusr_> Is the raid issue with ext3 fixed yet?
[00:01] <kfarrell> hello, I created a RAID array using disk utility in 10.4, but it doesn't start at boot. Can anyone advise me how to get the array to start at boot (it's mounting as /home)?
[00:01] <PacketCollision> I'm trying to get my Synaptics touchpad to do two-finger scrolling under lucid.  At the moment, it works if I enable it manually via xinput commands, but the option is disabled in the Mouse preferences panel.  Does anyone know where I should look if I want to enable the option in prefs? I'm asking because I'd a) rather do it the "Right Way", and b) would like to contribute a patch/bug-report so it will work for others.
[00:05] <kfarrell> !factoid
[00:05] <Altin> what is the command to uninstall ./bin file?
[00:07] <methril_> hi trying to use the beta2 install cd breaks partitioning a TB disk
[00:07] <methril_> someone has any advice?
[00:08] <methril_> it freezes
[00:12] <kfarrell> hello, I created a RAID array using disk utility in 10.4, but it doesn't start at boot. Can anyone advise me how to get the array to start at boot (it's mounting as /home)?
[00:14] <randomusr_> kfarrell, is it listed in /etc/fstab ?
[00:15] <kfarrell> randomusr_, yes, it's an issue with /dev/md0 not being avaiaible. I have to go into disk util and manually start the array
[00:15] <randomusr_> what type of raid?
[00:16] <kfarrell> mirror
[00:26] <DanaG> Nice job, gwibber:
[00:26] <DanaG> "Replying to <other person's name> as"
[00:26] <DanaG> ... as?
[00:26] <DanaG> as what?
[00:26] <DanaG> And there's something cut off hanging below that.
[00:29] <look> ok when i try to boot into 10.04 it dies like i said last time i was in here. i get slplash but nothing ells just a blank screen that thinks its turned off
[00:32] <randomusr_> has anyone else had their ext3 raid volumes fail? if so, what raid controllers were being used?
[00:32] <look> does anyone know what going on?
[00:33] <look> i try to boot ubuntu 10.04 with live cd right and when it gets to splash screen my screen goes blank and nothing happens
[00:33] <randomusr_> look, try the alternate cd maybe
[00:34] <look> ttried
[00:34] <look> i even tried to boot from usb
[00:34] <look> i made usb with Unetbootin
[00:34] <randomusr_> what,s the video card you have?
[00:34] <look> Nvidea 9800
[00:34] <chrisl2424> hey, i need help installing a graphics card. It is a nvidia 210 geforce and everytime I try to install the driver for it on my new ubuntu (new beta) it fails the installation. The driver download from the website also fails. Can you please help me
[00:34] <randomusr_> desktop?
[00:34] <look> gnome ofc
[00:35] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, the issue with drivers from nvidia are known issues
[00:35] <methril> randomusr_: and with the ati too?
[00:35] <chrisl2424> okay, then you can help me, right?
[00:35] <Guest29932> i have some similar issues with ati
[00:35] <randomusr_> look, did you attempt to boot graphics safe mode?
[00:36] <randomusr_> methril, don't know about ATI
[00:36] <look> so how do i turn off quiet splash?
[00:36] <look> that is what they told me to do first
[00:36] <look> but i dont know how
[00:36] <chrisl2424> ? no, i do not know much about this
[00:36] <randomusr_> methril, the nvidia packages fail to meet many distro specific restrictions
[00:37] <randomusr_> yikes
[00:37] <randomusr_> a little additional help here
[00:37] <look> its sad that just one user cares enough to help people
[00:37] <randomusr_> !nvidia | chrisl2424
[00:37]  * look cheers on randomusr_ 
[00:38] <randomusr_> yea
[00:38] <randomusr_> !quiet
[00:38] <randomusr_> bummer
[00:38] <methril_home> i was using open ATI (radeon)
[00:38] <look> !lol
[00:39] <methril_home> but fails at init
[00:39] <look> =0
[00:39] <randomusr_> ok we get it
[00:39]  * look did not know it would do that
[00:39] <methril_home> i was going to try with radeon.modeset=0, but my partition gets corrupted
[00:39] <randomusr_> methril_home, sounds like you need to recompile the kernel or rebuild init to work with your driver
[00:39] <methril_home> i just backuped the data & i'm trying a fresh install
[00:40] <randomusr_> unfortunately, I don't know the process for that yet
[00:40] <methril_home> well, now i don't have a ubuntu in my system
[00:40] <randomusr_> meh
[00:40] <chrisl2424> ubottu: is there away around this
[00:40]  * miha started network install.. now it doesnt detect disk
[00:41] <chrisl2424> is there anyone intelligent in this chat
[00:41] <miha> it does offer to partition my usb disk though
[00:41] <Pici> chrisl2424: Please mind your attitude, the people here are all volunteers.
[00:42] <methril_home> chris4585: depends what you consider intelligence
[00:43] <chrisl2424> Does anyone know about graphic card drivers or a room that does
[00:43] <methril_home> chris4585: just ask
[00:44] <chrisl2424> hey, i need help installing a graphics card. It is a nvidia 210 geforce and everytime I try to install the driver for it on my new ubuntu (new beta) it fails the installation. The driver download from the website also fails. Can you please help me
[00:45] <methril_home> chris4585,: how it fails?
[00:45] <methril_home> put messages in pastebin
[00:45] <methril_home> !pastebin
[00:45] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, please be respectful, as was said before, these folks are volunteers
[00:45] <bogor> How do i enable breaking window effect on closing a window in compiz in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[00:45] <chrisl2424> I'll get the code it gives me, one sec
[00:46] <randomusr_> bogor, really? do you have compiz-config installed?
[00:46] <bogor> randomusr_, yes i have installed it
[00:46] <chrisl2424> /var/log/jockey.log
[00:47] <chrisl2424> that it what it gives me after failing the driver installation
[00:47] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424, try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" in a terminal window
[00:47] <chrisl2424> k
[00:47] <PacketCollision> that worked for me, even though I couldn't get jocky to work
[00:47] <_CommandeR_> how do you list grub menu on boot ?
[00:48] <arand> _CommandeR_: Hold shift
[00:48] <gabby> do anyone know how to get unwanted icons in KDE netbook remix
[00:48] <randomusr_> bogor, search for compiz and look for animations
[00:49] <randomusr_> it may not be in the default install
[00:49] <chrisl2424> nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[00:49] <chrisl2424>   
[00:49] <chrisl2424> what do i do now?
[00:49] <methril_home> what is the content of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:49] <iconmefisto> _CommandeR_: left shift key
[00:50] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424, if it's installed, your drivers should work
[00:50] <_CommandeR_> seems that i had to do grub-update
[00:50] <_CommandeR_> grub2-update
[00:50] <chrisl2424> But the driver does not work? it said it had failed installation and I have seen no effect of the card yet
[00:51] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, what's that command to confirm 3d functionality? something like glx-gears?
[00:51] <chrisl2424> Its worse then before and i had no graphics card to begin with, ran off cpu
[00:51] <PacketCollision> randomusr_, I always just try to enable Desktop Effects
[00:51] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, what motherboard and cpu are you using?
[00:52] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, meh
[00:52] <input`> pressing F6 at boot did not work
[00:53] <methril_home> chris4585: when you installed nvidia package where you asked to reboot the system?
[00:53] <randomusr_> I really hope chris isn't using an i series cpu with cpu video acceleration on some funky bios
[00:53] <PacketCollision> glxgears doesn't prove it's hardware acceleration, it works with mesa too
[00:53] <input`> it still was just a blank black screen after i pressed "try ubuntu without changing anything"
[00:53] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, someone told me it did over in compiz fusion a while back. oh well
[00:55] <chrisl2424> no i was not asked to reboot system and i am using an intel mother board
[00:55] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, could you pastebin you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:55] <chrisl2424> what is pastebin?
[00:55] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, what's the model of your motherboard an cpu?
[00:55] <randomusr_> !pastebin | chrisl2424
[00:56] <Fishscene> Pastebin is a website where you can quickly and easily post logs and readouts for other people to read. We use it so that you don't spam the channel with huge blobs of text.
[00:56] <chrisl2424> intel pentium 4
[00:57] <bogor> Do i need to logoff and login to view each effect in compiz. b'cos i tried many changes. But nothing is reflecting.
[00:57] <PacketCollision> bogor, no, it should take effect immediately
[00:57] <Fishscene> bogor: I've noticed that I had to close the configuration window before the effect would apply.
[00:58] <chrisl2424> why do u want me to use paste bin, i am so confused
[00:58] <bogor> Thank you guys, do u knwo the name of the effect that makes the window breaks into pices upon closing the window. I just love that animation. Do know which one to choose from.
[00:58] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: we need to see the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[00:59] <input`> Can some one help me for a bit im getting a little frustrated
[00:59] <input`> ive been working on this problem for 3 days now
[00:59] <chrisl2424> what do i type in this? it's just a letter box
[01:00] <randomusr_> silly network
[01:00] <input`> i boot from a cd AND/OR usb after splash i get nothing even with quiet splash off
[01:00] <bogor> chris12424, read up on what is pastebin on wikipedia
[01:00] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: in a terminal, type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:00] <randomusr_> bogor, was someone able to help?
[01:00] <PacketCollision> highlight everything, copy, paste in the box on pastebin
[01:00] <bogor> randomusr_, no not yet
[01:01] <PacketCollision> then paste the url it gives you into the chat here
[01:01] <randomusr_> can you tell me if the nvidia config-settings package is installed?
[01:01] <PacketCollision> input`: what cpu/graphics card/motherboard/chipset are you using?
[01:01] <randomusr_> bogor, you could find it under system>administration I believe.
[01:01] <Fishscene> bogor: shatter? It should be a minimize or windows close effect. I don't have compiz in front of me at the moment, so I can't hunt it down myself. Maybe under Animation settings?
[01:01] <randomusr_> or preferences
[01:02] <PacketCollision> bogor: I didn't see it in the list of window effects.  Maybe it insn't included in Ubuntu's compiz distribution
[01:02] <PacketCollision> I assume you can add additional animations somehow
[01:02] <randomusr_> bogor, wait, did you enable effects?
[01:02] <bogor> randomusr, i find it under system -> prefrences
[01:02] <bogor> yes i did
[01:03] <randomusr_> do you have wobbly windows?
[01:03] <bogor> the maximum effect one
[01:03] <chrisl2424> i type that code in terminal and it gives me a blank page. Opens a writer to nothing
[01:03] <randomusr_> bogor, likely that Fishscene is correct.... it's shatter that you want
[01:04] <bogor> randomusr_, exaclty, where can it be found ??
[01:04] <randomusr_> fire up synaptic
[01:04] <chrisl2424> Nvidia 210 512 mb geforce graphics card with Pentium 4 intel processor
[01:04] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current"
[01:04] <randomusr_> search for shatter or compiz xtra's or something
[01:04] <chrisl2424> k
[01:05] <bogor> randomusr_, i am not able to find it in compiz-config-settings or simple compiz settings
[01:05] <PacketCollision> randomusr_ / bogor: you'll definitely need compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:05] <randomusr_> synaptic package manager
[01:06] <PacketCollision> randomusr_ / bogor: but I couldn't find it in the list of effects in compizconfig settings manager
[01:06] <bogor> Ok i did search on ubuntu software center. I will try on command line also
[01:06] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, i don't think shatter is in the default compiz install and thus not compizconfig settings manager
[01:06] <PacketCollision> randomusr_: that's what I was thinking
[01:06] <bogor> randomusr_, that exaclty what i am also facing like what PacketCollion is saying
[01:08] <randomusr_> hehehe watch this, i'm smart
[01:09] <Phoenixz> Is there a known but about this in KDE? Im using kubuntu 10.04 beta 2, plasma-desktop suddenly is using like 1GB memory, kwin a good 450MB and xorg some 750MB.. since I have like 2,5GB memory, just opening firefox kicks me in swapping.. Is this a new bug? The alpha versions didn't have this issue..
[01:10] <Phoenixz> heh.. and then it drops back to normal values again (~50-100MB each)
[01:10] <randomusr_> Phoenixz, it's plasma, what can ya do?>
[01:11] <chrisl2424> I have compiz but i can't start it. how can I get it to stay on
[01:12] <randomusr_> can you not start it, or does it not stay on?
[01:12] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: does choosing Normal from System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects make it run?
[01:13] <PacketCollision> that's the "Right Way To Do It" (tm)
[01:13] <randomusr_> lol
[01:14] <bowser> hi all, my boot screen does not show ubuntu logo, is there a way to fix it?
[01:14] <chrisl2424> like i have compiz but it's not on because i can't use the cube. How can i turn it on (that way did not work)
[01:15] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, go to preferences > compizconfig settings>  desktop
[01:16] <chrisl2424> nm, the cube started working out of no where
[01:16] <randomusr_> right
[01:16] <iconmefisto> I have no VTs. is this a plymouth bug?
[01:16] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: the cube is not enabled by default.  Does Win+N invert the current window?
[01:17] <bowser> my boot animation disappeared once, playing with startupmanager hasn't helped, any ideas?
[01:18] <bjsnider> chrisl2424, how did you get lucid on your laptop?
[01:18] <tbobo05> Hey guys!  First time in the Ubuntu channel after 5 years as a user!
[01:18] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: welcome
[01:19] <tbobo05> Thanks PacketCollision.
[01:19] <bjsnider> this isn't the ubuntu channel
[01:19] <iconmefisto> bowser: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth  to choose a theme. then sudo update-initramfs -u
[01:19] <PacketCollision> well, it's an ubuntu channel, but not the ubuntu channel
[01:19] <tbobo05> I know, I joined this channel b/c I updated to Lucid Beta 2 the other day and had a few question.
[01:19] <tbobo05> questions*
[01:20] <PacketCollision> !ask |tbobo05
[01:20] <tbobo05> Ok, fair enough.  Wasn't sure of proper etiquette.
[01:20] <Fishscene> Has anyone been able to enable Visual effects in VMware workstation/Fusion?
[01:21] <tbobo05> After I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 Beta2, my external monitor has been acting a bit funky.  It seems as if the refresh rates are off.  I am using a ATIx1250 card and my external monitor is a Samsung 2333 (supporting 1080p @ 60Hz).
[01:21] <look> i keep getting this bug
[01:21] <look> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/526873
[01:22] <bowser> iconmefisto, trying that
[01:22] <Again617> My swap is disabled.  I check fstab and it is still in there
[01:22] <Again617> I've tried rebooting without success.
[01:22] <tbobo05> I've tried playing with the xrandr command to manually set refresh rates without success.  I was wondering if any of you have experienced this also?
[01:23] <Again617> My swap partition is /dev/sda5.  How do I check its UUID?
[01:23] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: you're using the ATI proprietary drivers?
[01:23] <tbobo05> no, open source.
[01:23] <PacketCollision> oh, ok
[01:23] <bjsnider> Again617, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[01:24] <Again617> right, I checked that and none of the UUIDs in there are also on the swap line in my fstab
[01:24] <bjsnider> Again617, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -l
[01:24] <Again617> ok thanks
[01:25] <Again617> /dev/sda5 is not in there
[01:25] <bjsnider> then it doesn't exist i guess
[01:25] <Again617> When I open Disk Utility /dev/sda5 is in there and is shown as formatted as a swap type
[01:25] <bowser> iconmefisto, I'll reboot to see whether it works thank you!
[01:26] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: I only use Intel and Nvidia, so I'm afraid I can't help you
[01:27] <look> I am trying to boot ubuntu 10.04 from live cd, i boot from my cd, get the slpash and push enter on the "try ubuntu without changing anything" option and it gives me nothing ells just a blank black screen can anyone help me out with this?
[01:27] <tbobo05> Thanks PacketCollision, I appreciate your help.  Do you know of anything outside of the refresh rate that would cause the screen to look fuzzy?  (The monitor itself is fine, there is no distortion when I boot up and the BIOS logo comes on).
[01:28] <bjsnider> look, i'll bet your cd image was broken
[01:28] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: is it a CRT or LCD?
[01:28] <look> bjsnider: no i just downloaded a new one a few minutes ago burned it and tryed again
[01:28] <tbobo05> LCD
[01:29] <look> bjsnider, also i even tryed like 20 minutes ago to boot from a USB that i made from the new ISO
[01:29] <bjsnider> look, which image did you download?
[01:29] <PacketCollision> Then refresh shouldn't make a difference.  Most LCDs only support one speed anyway.  It might be an A->D conversion issue, assuming you're using VGA not DVI/HDMI
[01:29] <look> bjsnider, desktop cd
[01:29] <bjsnider> could also be that the panel isn't at the native resolution
[01:30] <bjsnider> look, imeant which version
[01:30] <look> bjsnider, how would i fix that
[01:30] <look> bjsnider, i have a Nvidea 9800 graphics card
[01:30] <look> bjsnider, i will try the Alternate cd first
[01:31] <tbobo05> Could be, I am using VGA.  It was working fine prior to my upgrade to 10.04.  I'm assuming the Radeon driver was updated and also the X-Org.  Is there a way to roll back to the previous driver and see if it helps?
[01:31] <look> bjsnider, can get back to you
[01:31] <bjsnider> look, you're not understanding my question. which lucid version did you download. what is the exact location of the image
[01:31] <tbobo05> The native resolution is 1920x1080 60Hz, which I have set in the Displays gui and have set with the xrandr.
[01:31] <bjsnider> give me the url of the image
[01:32] <look> bjsnider, http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/10.04/ <--- ive used this one before and it worked with the first beta
[01:32] <bjsnider> look, wrong image. you should have downloaded the daily-livecd. could people please stop downloading the beta now, please?
[01:33] <look> bjsnider, will you give me URL?
[01:33] <bjsnider> !daily
[01:33] <look> bjsnider, thanks i will try this and get back to you
[01:33] <Again617> I have swap back.  I used mkswap on /dev/sda5 and then swapon to get it running.
[01:33] <Again617> I hope that I don't lose swap again. Should I file a bug on Launchpad about this?
[01:34] <bowser> iconmefisto, it didnt help :/
[01:34] <bjsnider> if you have a sufficient amount of ram, you don't need swap
[01:34] <Again617> I don't have sufficient amount of ram, I've been running my comptuer for the last while painfully.
[01:34] <Again617> I always had sudo killall chrome in a terminal in the background because at times the  computer would slow to an absolute crawl
[01:35] <Again617> I've been running it for about a week probably without swap and it has been a terrible week
[01:36] <bowser> iconmefisto, I have nvidia card and I switched from Kubuntu. After I switched my kubuntu splash stayed, later it changed into very few colors, finally it disappeared altogether
[01:38] <iconmefisto> bowser: might be related to the nvidia driver and kms
[01:39] <bowser> iconmefisto, well there is small garbage at the top of the screen
[01:39] <bowser> iconmefisto, however I had to install from CD and when running it, the splash worked
[01:40] <iconmefisto> bowser: you probably have a different driver installed now
[01:41] <bowser> iconmefisto, I do... thank you anyway
[01:44] <iconmefisto> I can't switch to a VT. any ideas?
[01:50] <ninjai_> anynody know how to get asus brightness keys to work? works in windows, xev shows no output when they are pressed
[01:50] <ninjai_> running 10.04 beta
[01:57] <ninjai_> anybody know how to troubleshoot non working brightness keys on laptop if xev shows no output??
[01:58] <Fudge> hi im trying to track down why my lucid beta2 / vinux keeps locking up, cpu temps fine, stress test didnt kill it but memtester i installed im not sure how to specify how to test like 3gig of the 4gig of ram,have read man page but hasnt helped me
[01:59] <Fudge> soemtimes it seems to be if i push a couple keys at once and others if the speech seems to have to read a lot and processing it makes it fall over :(
[01:59] <DanaG> ninjai_: what brand laptop?
[01:59] <ninjai_> danag: Asus UX50V
[02:00] <DanaG> ah, I don't know much about Asus stuff, unfortunately.
[02:00] <ninjai_> crap
[02:04] <chorse> ninjai_: can you set the brightness manually?
[02:04] <Volkodav> update-manager
[02:04] <ninjai_> nope, the app crashes
[02:04] <Fudge> is keegconnection.org anything to do with lucid repositires?
[02:05] <chorse> ninjai_: does something like /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness exist?
[02:13] <perscitus> Anyone know how to convert netbook image to flash drive with usb startup creator?
[02:17] <TecnoBrat> Anyone getting 100% CPU usage from mountall?
[02:18] <ninjai_> chorse: /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCDD/brightness
[02:18] <ninjai_> thats what i have
[02:19] <chorse> ninjai_: cat the file, do you see different modes (numbers)?
[02:20] <ninjai_> chorse: yes
[02:20] <chorse> perscitus: that's straightforward, download the image, plug a flash drive, start the creator, format the drive with it and select the netbook iso
[02:20] <ninjai_> chorse: 0-15
[02:21] <ninjai_> chorse: if I vi it and change "current: 15" will that update it?
[02:21] <perscitus> chorse,   there is a misssing step.
[02:21] <perscitus> Select the second partition in creator.
[02:21] <chorse> ninjai_: try to write one of these numbers into the file using "echo 5 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCDD/brightness" for mode 5
[02:22] <chorse> perscitus: which one?
[02:22] <ninjai_> chorse: that works! but how do I get my key combination to recognize?
[02:23] <perscitus> I hate the button window layout for Lucid. its messed up.  Close should be on left and not on the right.
[02:23] <Fudge> are there any known bugs concerning keyboard repeat being enabled?
[02:23] <chorse> ninjai_: you can set it back to 15 the same way. the good news is, your graphics device works ;) but i'm sorry i don't know how to set up the combination for your model
[02:25] <perscitus> Close button for closing windows is to remain on the outside position. otherwise its just bad usability
[02:25] <hagabaka> are there known problems for the kernel in lucid with radeon video cards?
[02:25] <perscitus> hagabaka,   read release notes.
[02:26] <chorse> ninjai_: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412922
[02:26] <chorse> your problem may be similar
[02:26] <nathanbrauer> Wow. I have 275 updates waiting for me....
[02:26] <ninjai_> chorse: yes i can set it up again
[02:27] <hagabaka> where can I find the release notes?
[02:27] <Pici> /topic
[02:27] <TecnoBrat> Anyone experiencing 100% CPU usage from the "mountall" process since updating packages in the last few days?
[02:28] <perscitus> I wonder how well Lucid netbook plays starcraft
[02:28] <hagabaka> you mean http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/beta2 ? that doesn't mention radeon, but has anyone else had problems
[02:29] <perscitus> hagabaka,   there isnt a driver issue anymore now
[02:29] <iconmefisto> I can't switch to a VT. any ideas?
[02:30] <perscitus> hagabaka,   in beta1 and before, Radeon drivers wouldnt work. But at beta1 release, it was fixed.
[02:33] <hagabaka> with the 2.6.32-20 and a few others before in lucid, I get a backtrace from radeon when booting, and X never shows. but 2.6.32 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ works
[02:33] <perscitus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/494699
[02:33] <Pici> The radeon driver has been working fine for me since alpha 2 or 3.
[02:35] <perscitus> i missed ubuntu loading screen
[02:35] <hagabaka> I'm using the radeon driver, fglrx is not installed
[02:35] <perscitus> usplash didnt work in netbook install
[02:36] <nathanbrauer> Ubuntu keeps mounting a non-existent Blank CD-ROM Disc ....
[02:36] <_CommandeR_> guys how do you enable widescreen resolution in grub2?
[02:36]  * DanaG also has plymouth not work... since I have a serial console, it actively refuses to work.
[02:36] <nathanbrauer> I wasn't even touching the computer and it said that I inserted one.
[02:38] <_CommandeR_> for people having issues with plymouth check this out  = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1453733
[02:39] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/516825
[02:40]  * nathanbrauer has to restart. He'll be right back
[02:42] <perscitus> How come Lucid doesnt detect wireless networksi n range?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Proberly an issue with your specific wireless card perhaps.
[02:45] <perscitus> Im sure it works
[02:46] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,   cuz it works in Karmic
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> its linux xrivers in the new kernel may have issues.
[02:46] <Fudge> could i please have some help
[02:47] <Fudge> my ubuntu keeps freezing and doing strange things
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Care to give a few more details to the channel?
[02:48] <Fudge> im not sure what should be given, i just do my normal tasks and the machine locks up, checked cpu temp but not ram yet. its a new quadcore shuttle one one hdd in it. using beta2 lucid
[02:49] <perscitus> darn it. Wifi isnt working in Lucid with Dell Mini
[02:49] <Fudge> i havnt run memtester yet as cant figure out how to actually run the test, the cli memtester
[02:50] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,   it says device not ready
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Ive heard of some Specific issues with some wireless on some netbooks in the latest kernel.
[02:51] <Fudge> though last night i left stress running and machine was still operating in the morning. th last time i pinged here was because i moved to my gnome-terminal window, hot control after switching screen consoles and it locked up. seems to be on keyboard input
[02:52] <Fudge> is there any kind of monitoring tool i can install that will track crashes and lockups with a report
[02:53] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,  That would bring EPic Fail to Ubuntu developers
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> perscitus:  i dont recall what netbook. but there was some issue with some changes to the kernel.. it wasent ubuntu specific.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> so i dont recall the details either.
[02:54] <nathanbrauer> Grrr....Ubuntu is failing at unmounting my iPod Touch.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> fix to one thing.. broke some other chipsets/vairant of the same chipset.
[02:54] <nathanbrauer> and it can never send crash reports...
[02:54] <_CommandeR_> anyone knows how to change resolution in grub, ?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> in /etc/default/grub i just used a -->
[02:55] <Fudge> nathanbrauer  was that to me?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> GRUB_GFXMODE=1680x1050
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> and rerean update-grub and it works here.
[02:55] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,   i cant use google to search... Karmic flooded results
[02:55] <DanaG> None of my systems have any widescreen vbe modes for grub to use.
[02:55] <DanaG> sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'
[02:56] <perscitus> Anyone care to help me with wifi?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> that says to go to the GRUB command line at boot and run the vbeinfo command? im not sure. :)
[02:57] <nathanbrauer> Fudge, no, it was just me venting
[02:57] <_CommandeR_> hm
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> bye all
[02:58] <_CommandeR_> o/
[02:58] <perscitus> stupid ubuntu 10.04
[02:58] <_CommandeR_> DanaG,
[02:59] <_CommandeR_> DanaG, there is no output from hwinfo --framebuffer in terminal only command not found
[02:59] <Fudge> please help me before my computer goes out the window
[02:59] <Fudge> :)
[02:59] <DanaG> ah, it's a package: hwinfo
[02:59] <DanaG> install that package to get that command. =þ
[02:59] <_CommandeR_> done
[03:00] <ninjai_> chorse: are you the one that suggested that thread? you NAILED it, thanks a lot! I dont know hwo I never found that thread before... or how nobody else could figure it out :D
[03:00] <_CommandeR_> DanaG, seems that it only supports 1024x768
[03:00] <chorse> ninjai_: you're welcome ;)
[03:01] <DanaG> Bummer.
[03:01] <DanaG> My system offers up to 1600x1200 (since native is 1920x1200)... but if I do that resolution, everything's rather horribly garbled.
[03:02] <perscitus> Can some1 please help with Wifi on Mini 10v?
[03:03] <_CommandeR_> DanaG, hm it is a intel 965 so, but odd i cannot use native res on the laptop
[03:03] <perscitus> I wish people would staying in channels.
[03:04] <_CommandeR_> i have to get some sleep o/
[03:05] <perscitus> and i have to get wifi working
[03:05] <UnNaturalHigh> Is anyone else here having problems with brightness keys?
[03:07] <UnNaturalHigh> For the entirety of Karmic I couldn't use my brightness keys and it seems the problem still exists in Lucid
[03:07] <UnNaturalHigh> Actually now it is worse, I can't even use the brightness app in lucid, lol
[03:08] <nonameNN> UnNaturalHigh: they dont work on my laptop... the only ubuntu version that make them work was 8.04 i have an hp dv6753cl
[03:09] <UnNaturalHigh> nonameNN, same here, 9.04 worked for me too
[03:09] <nonameNN> UnNaturalHigh: i didnt try to find any solution though...
[03:10] <perscitus> UnNaturalHigh,   Works in my dell mini 10v
[03:11] <iconmefisto> I can't switch to a VT. any ideas?
[03:14] <genii> iconmefisto: What do you get? Blinking cursor? Garbled text?
[03:14] <iconmefisto> genii: blinking cursor
[03:15] <iconmefisto> genii: also, X is on vt8 not vt7
[03:15] <genii> Hm
[03:16] <Volkodav> what is the user's name on live CD ?
[03:16] <perscitus> X is VT7
[03:16] <nonameNN> Volkodav: ubuntu? password ubuntu i would guess...
[03:17] <Volkodav> I'll try
[03:17] <iconmefisto> if I remove splash or use nosplash in kernel line, does that disable plymouth?
[03:17] <perscitus> i figured out my wifi problem
[03:17] <Volkodav> nope nonameNN
[03:18] <nonameNN> try in #ubuntu if no one knows it... mine was just a guess.... sorry man
[03:18] <iconmefisto> Volkodav: try ubuntu with blank password
[03:21] <ninjai_> chorse: would you know how to key my keyboard backlight keys to work now too? :D
[03:21] <spvensko1> what's the expected release date for 10.04 final?
[03:21] <chris4585> spvensko1, 29th
[03:21] <spvensko1> ty
[03:22] <perscitus> oh my. i hardlocked
[03:22] <perscitus> Lucid hard locked
[03:22] <jmcantrell> gnome do will not start
[03:22] <jmcantrell> anyone experiencing this?
[03:23] <input`> bjsnider, the daily build did not work for me.
[03:24] <look> bjsnider, this time i didnt even get a splash screen
[03:26] <perscitus> Now Lucid wont connect to wifi
[03:26] <look> at least yours boots
[03:26] <look> i don't even get a splash screen all i get is a blank screen and a running computer
[03:26] <chorse> ninjai_: there was a patch some time ago on lkm, don't know if it has made its way into stable or ubuntu yet, https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/44491/
[03:27] <look> chorse, can you help me on this issue.
[03:28] <chorse> look: what's your graphics hardware?
[03:28] <look> nvidea 9800
[03:29] <look> chorse, Nvidea 9800 GT
[03:30] <chorse> did you upgrade or is it a fresh install?
[03:30] <look> chorse,  i just had the daily release
[03:30] <look> chorse, wanted to try it out as live cd
[03:30] <alex_mayorga> bug 561151
[03:31] <shawnboy> Can someone suggest how to successfully get Adobe Flash plugin working in mozilla. I've done it many times in previous releases.
[03:31] <chorse> look: so you don't use an installed version?
[03:31] <look> chorse, i do this for all the ubuntu from 8.04 up since i used it my first time in 2006
[03:32] <look> chorse, no just a live cd from the daily iso's
[03:32] <look> its not my cd drive (brand new just got it 1 week ago)
[03:32] <alex_mayorga> !flash
[03:32] <chorse> in that case i'd say wait for the final release and hope it will be fixed by then
[03:32] <alex_mayorga> shawnboy: see ubottu above
[03:33] <shawnboy> I tried downloading and extracting libflashplayer.so and putting it into .mozilla/plugins/ but that doesn't work.
[03:33] <look> bug 561153 i think it that one that alex_mayorga pointed out
[03:33] <look> 561151 i mean
[03:34] <chorse> yes, it looks like that
[03:35] <shawnboy> alex_mayorga, ok. thanks. I'll try that. I wonder why the old way doesn't work anymore. Oh well.
[03:36] <look> chorse, how would i apply this fix to my iso?
[03:36] <look> chorse, never did anything my iso's before
[03:36] <look>                     ^to
[03:37] <chorse> you should wait until if it fixed
[03:38]  * look will wait, i am sad that my compy cannot boot linux when EVERY other linux beta boots...
[03:44] <chrisl2424> what room can i go in for windows help
[03:44] <perscitus> ##windows
[03:44] <chrisl2424> k, i hate windows
[03:47] <Fudge> ok that lockup was pushing f6 in a pidgin window, pushing control to halt speech and up arrow to freeze system
[03:49] <perscitus> how do you enable path in nautilus?
[03:51] <Chipaca> perscitus: Ctrl-L ?
[03:52] <chrisl2424> windows form useless
[03:57] <MrDowntempo> I installed this beta a day or two ago on a brand new machine. After the first update my install was hosed. Guess it was #561151. I reinstalled and now everything is dandy. I see that the fix is out, (according to the topic) does that mean its okay to run updates now?
[03:58] <look> bug 561151
[03:59] <look> MrDowntempo, im getting the same bug but it wont even let me install from cd when i boot it wont even give me splash screen
[04:00] <MrDowntempo> when I click mark all updates it will update to 2.6.32.20 which is the bad kernel. I don't see 2.6.32.30 at least not in the default repos
[04:00] <holstein> bad kernel?
[04:00] <MrDowntempo> look, well I was able to reinstall by booting to the beta2 cd
[04:00] <holstein> OH..
[04:00] <IdleOne> no issues here with 2.6.32.20
[04:01] <IdleOne> but then again WFM is not a good gage
[04:01] <Random832> so does lucid support LILO? (at least as well as Karmic?) - my laptop has issues with grub
[04:01] <look> MrDowntempo, not even the beta2 cd works for me
[04:02] <IdleOne> look: then it is a case of bad download or PEBKAC :)
[04:02] <chorse> Random832: lilo is still included.
[04:02] <MrDowntempo> or a bad burn
[04:02] <look> ive downloaded the iso 7 times today
[04:02] <look> burned it 7 times over
[04:02] <IdleOne> look: burn as slow as possible
[04:02] <look> on a differant disc then i tried USB boot
[04:03] <look> same problem with usb
[04:03] <look> my computer says hey look LINUX! YAY! BOOT TIEM!
[04:04] <look> then it tries to boot and i dont get GUI, i dont get even a command line my screen goes dead and my green light on my screen goes yellow like its in sleep mode
[04:04] <MrDowntempo> does it not boot to the linux image?
[04:04] <MrDowntempo> hmmm, dunno
[04:04] <look> i burned many discs of both the desktop cd and the alternate cd
[04:05] <MrDowntempo> Does " Fixed kernel now on archive and mirrors"  mean its safe to do an upgrade via synaptic now?
[04:05] <IdleOne> MrDowntempo: all upgrades are at your own risk in Beta
[04:05] <Random832> chorse: don't suppose there's any chance it works any better than karmic, is there? (i have to manually update for each kernel update, and i had to put in a fake "update-grub" to make it happy
[04:05] <Random832> or was i just doing it wrong?
[04:05] <MrDowntempo> look: you might be having a different issue entirely then. Possibly bad hardware or an incompatibility. Have you tried a different OS?
[04:06] <Random832> (there seems to be an "update-lilo", i just noticed - how do i actually tell it i'm using lilo as a boot loader so it runs that instead of trying and failing to find update-grub)
[04:06] <look> MrDowntempo, yes ive booted 9.10 live cd also puppy linux and even windows Bart PE cd
[04:06] <sagaci> how can you disable keyrings and authenticate automagically
[04:06] <MrDowntempo> IdleOne, certainly, but i mean in respect to the (known) bad kernel.
[04:07] <IdleOne> MrDowntempo: I assume it is safe now according to topic
[04:07] <MrDowntempo> IdleOne I just wasn't sure what archive it was refereing to. Guess I'll give it a go
[04:08]  * MrDowntempo crosses fingers
[04:08] <nathanbrauer> Can anyone help me setup a LAMP stack on Lucid?  Does Lucid ship with a server pre-installed, because I think there may be competition for my :80 port.
[04:08] <IdleOne> !lamp
[04:09] <h00k> if I were to file a bug for this icon, what should I file it under? http://anthonyrhook.com/dump/Screenshot-3.png
[04:10] <h00k> nathanbrauer: it doesn't ship pre-installed, no.
[04:10] <MrDowntempo> totally unrelated but... ambiance and radiance are sexy as hell, but is it possible for me to move the close/min/max to the right side of windows?
[04:11] <nathanbrauer> IdleOne, thanks.  h00k, I know LAMP isn't pre-installed, but before I installed apache, http://localhost/ was saying that something was setup correctly
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> !controls | MrDowntempo
[04:11] <IdleOne> h00k: what do the properties say for that icon?>
[04:11] <h00k> IdleOne: I don't know, it's in the alt-tab switcher when there is a message pending on Empathy
[04:12] <shawnboy> I'm back. I followed instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash with no success. Any other ideas?
[04:12] <h00k> IdleOne: I don't know what the icon belongs to, Empathy? The Radiance theme?
[04:12] <IdleOne> h00k: right click on it
[04:12] <h00k> IdleOne: I can't, it's in the alt-tab switcher!
[04:12] <IdleOne> hmm
[04:13] <h00k> it's the thumbnail preview if that window is minimized
[04:13] <IdleOne> I would guess Empathy
[04:13] <h00k> That's what I would think, too, but I'm not sure
[04:13] <IdleOne> from what it looks like you got running there
[04:13] <MrDowntempo> thanks ZykoticK9
[04:15] <IdleOne> MrDowntempo: l2r is to change the buttons layout from left side of the window to  the right side , hit the  alt-F2 keys then type gconf-editor, then Applications > metacity  > general > button layout > menu:minimize,maximize,close or type the following command in Terminal: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string  "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[04:17] <shawnboy> Any suggestions for getting Adobe Flash 64-bit working in Firefox?
[04:17] <exigraff> h00k: /usr/share/empathy/icons/hicolor/16x16/status/im-message.png, perhaps
[04:19] <h00k> exigraff: that looks like it
[04:21] <agronholm> shawnboy, download and extract it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[04:21] <agronholm> libflashplayer.so that is
[04:21] <shawnboy> first thing I tried, agronholm
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, worked for me in several other installations but not for Lucid.
[04:22] <agronholm> well it works for me, what happened in your case then?
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, :)  nothing happens. that's the problem.
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, weird.
[04:22] <agronholm> it works here
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, trade me machines?
[04:22] <agronholm> pass
[04:22] <shawnboy> figures.
[04:24] <h00k> IdleOne: reported it
[04:24] <IdleOne> h00k: that is UNR you are running?
[04:24] <h00k> IdleOne: yes
[04:24] <IdleOne> looks pretty
[04:24] <h00k> IdleOne: thank you :)
[04:25] <IdleOne> by the way dude, your badges are awesome looking printed also
[04:25] <IdleOne> :D
[04:25] <h00k> IdleOne: they do?? Sweet!
[04:25] <IdleOne> yup
[04:26] <IdleOne> now to figure out how to print them on stickers
[04:26] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:27] <shawnboy> agronholm, what do you know... it works now. Maybe I downloaded wrong file earlier.
[04:27] <agronholm> heh
[04:27] <agronholm> flash probably still has input bugs in it
[04:28] <agronholm> like typing characters outside of the ASCII range gives weird output
[04:28] <agronholm> since flash apparently assumes latin1
[04:28] <shawnboy> It's been one of those days for me though... absent-minded.
[04:29] <shawnboy> farewell.
[04:30] <Zelozelos> hows it hangin holstein
[04:33] <holstein> Zelozelos: ;)
[04:33]  * holstein hangin in there
[04:34] <Zelozelos> holstein good 2 hear same here
[04:39] <almoxarife> anyone having problems with chromium daily builds, mine seems to be getting profile errors at every startup and I don't believe its closing properly
[04:40] <Zelozelos> is advanced ccsm working right? im thinkin about installin it but im hoping this time it wont interfere with blender's hotkeys, (i ws using ubuntu 9.10 last time ) it did even with the fusion icon set to metacity
[04:40]  * Zelozelos wants his cube back :(
[04:41] <git__> is anyone here using SSD running Ubuntu 10.4?
[04:41]  * MTughan gives Zelozelos a Mac G4 Cube
[04:41] <git__> will there be performance increase?
[04:41] <MTughan> git__: Not yet, but I hope to have one in the coming days.
[04:41] <Zelozelos> wats SSD?
[04:41] <MTughan> Solid State Drive.
[04:41] <git__> MTughan, PATA or SATA interface?
[04:41] <MTughan> Hard drive that uses flash NAND memory instead of spinning platters to store info.
[04:41] <MTughan> git__: You can get ones with parallel?
[04:42] <git__> MTughan, from Kingspec
[04:42] <git__> I have 4 T40 laptops
[04:42] <MTughan> Huh... No, SATA here.
[04:42] <csgeek> hey.. really silly question.  I want to add a program to startup when I login
[04:42] <git__> PATA SSD is more expensive than SATA
[04:42] <csgeek> where did the session manager go  in lucid?  they moved things around on me
[04:42] <chris4585> csgeek, system > preferences > startup
[04:42] <MTughan> git__: Frankly, a PATA SSD is probably a waste of money. It can't keep an SSD saturated.
[04:43] <MTughan> Granted SATA 3Gb/s can barely keep it saturated either, but it's a lot closer to the theoretical limit.
[04:43] <git__> MTughan, I use PATA SSD not for the performance, but the lifetime of the laptop ... mechanical hard drive dies every 3 year
[04:43] <git__> well ... not sure if Ubuntu 10.4 is optimized for SSD
[04:44] <MrDowntempo> Is empathy supposed to startup at bootup?
[04:44] <MTughan> git__: I don't know that any operating system can be "optimized" for SSD, but I've heard that 10.04 can achieve a 10s boot with a new install on an SSD.
[04:44] <csgeek> chris4585: oops.  silly.  thanks
[04:44] <chris4585> csgeek, np
[04:46] <iconmefisto> MTughan: could be optimised in this sense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM_%28SSD_command%29#Operating_system_support
[04:47] <MTughan> iconmefisto: Don't know that I would call that optimized for SSD. Just makes it a little better in the long run. And drives with builtin GC don't need TRIM as much.
[04:47] <MTughan> Anyway, gotta run...
[04:54] <bisby> if i have a package that isnt fully installed, but gets errors when i try to remove it, what can do about that?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> bisby, using "dpkg -r PACKAGENAME" *should* remove it
[04:55] <Zelozelos> can i have diff backgrounds for each workspace and still have icons?
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> bisby, does this package happen to be related to audacious?
[04:55] <bisby> ZykoticK9, its fglrx
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> bisby, ahhh
[04:57] <bisby> ZykoticK9, to get it to work on 10.04 I had to remove /usr/lib/fglrx and /usr/share/ati manually after uninstalling. after updating to the latest kernel it stopped working again. i forgot to run the remove before removing those 2 directories again... now it wont uninstall to install a newer version
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> bisby, sorry man - i don't run ATI so have 0 ideas
[05:05] <ZykoticK9> !controls | ViridianFire
[05:06] <ViridianFire> Why are they on the left in the first place?
[05:06] <ViridianFire> I thought they fixed that
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> ViridianFire, that's the default for Lucid
[05:06] <ViridianFire> yeah but I had heard that they changed ti back to the right
[05:06] <ViridianFire> so I installed it and it was on the right
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> ViridianFire, nothing to be fixed - it will be the final version
[05:07] <ViridianFire> but then today it switched to the left
[05:16] <Zelozelos> its easy 2 switch it to what ever side u desire, check out how-to-geek's site
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, ViridianFire is long gone...
[05:17] <Zelozelos> rofl i just noticed :)
[05:22] <Zelozelos> is there a way to make empathy stop showing part/join messages?
[05:36] <chris_> why does 10.04 always look for a cd before it will boot? It will say it cant find the cd, keep waiting or press s to continue
[05:39] <Zelozelos> is there a way to make Empathy stop showing join/part messages?
[05:48] <voss749> 10.10 Mating Meerkats
[05:52] <Lazy^>  /win 27
[05:57] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I upgraded 2 Ubuntu 9.10. One shows the quit symbol in the title bar of the windows to the left, the other at the right. How can change the latter to the right?
[05:58] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I upgraded 2 Ubuntu 9.10s. One shows the quit symbol in the title bar of the windows to the left, the other at the right. How can change the latter to the left?
[06:01] <fvs> select an alternative theme: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[06:01] <fvs> bullgard, try New Wave
[06:02] <bullgard4> fvs: Your answer is wrong. I have selected the same theme. It is Human-Clearlook on both computers.
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> fvs, windows controls isn't changed by theme
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> !controls | bullgard
[06:04] <Zelda> Hello.
[06:04] <Zelda> Is there an adobe reader for Lucid AMD64?
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, you can download the bin from Adobe, but it's not in the default repo no
[06:05] <Zelda> Im not good with installing from a bin.
[06:05] <Zelda> I dont know how to.
[06:06] <Zelda> will you assist me?
[06:07] <Zelda> Oh theres a problem. There isnt an 64bit version is there?
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, i really can't right now sorry.  But download the bin from http://get.adobe.com/reader/ then from a terminal "chmod +x THEFILENAME", then install with "sudo ./THEFILENAME" *should work* best of luck.
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, no 64bit version that i'm aware of
[06:08] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: You suggested me to read http://alturl.com/b6ja. I have done so. This however does not help me to move the close buttons to the left. They are still on the right. How can I change that so that they will appear on the left?
[06:08] <Zelda> yeah there isnt one on there webpage. I have an AMD64. I have tried to DL the x86 and obviously that doesnt work.
[06:08] <Zelda> er their.
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, the second part of the factoid show how to move left/right http://alturl.com/x5d6
[06:08] <Zelozelos> is there a way to show the volume but not the letter-looking icon?
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, yes see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/remove-mail-icon-leave-volume-control
[06:09] <Zelozelos> thank you ZykoticK9
[06:10] <Zelda> thanks ZykoticK9. I'll try what you said.
[06:10] <Zelda> I dont think the x86 will work on AMD64 but Ill give it a shot.
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, it will i've done it
[06:11] <Zelda> ok thanks
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, looks like i'm hanging around - so just shout if you run into any problems
[06:13] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: It worked!  --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, glad to help
[06:13] <Zelda> ok.
[06:14] <Zelda> so after I go "sudo chmod +x ... it goes green and then the install is messing up.. what do I need to do?
[06:15] <Zelda> I typed "sudo install ./"filename" and it gives me an error.
[06:15] <Zelda> hang on.. let me try with out the ./
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, what is the actual filename of the acroread?
[06:15] <Zelda> yes,.
[06:15] <Zelda> Im not that retarded.
[06:15] <Zelda> hang
[06:15] <Zelda> AdbeRdr9.3.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, drop the "install" part
[06:16] <Zelda> ok
[06:16] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: So the wording of ubottu : "To move them back to the right-hand side, see http://alturl.com/x5d6" is somewhat misleading and should be corrected.
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, so it's "sudo ./AdbeRdr9.3.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin"
[06:16] <Zelozelos> ok now i want to get rid of the one that has my name and a circle with an x in it (if u click on it it has ubuntu one and a status things) whats that one called?
[06:16] <Zelda> Ok thanks. Its extracting it says.
[06:16] <Zelozelos> it has the power one attached to it
[06:17] <Zelda> and i put the files in /zelda/home right?
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, can you right-click "remove from panel"
[06:17] <Zelda> or just ./
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, you need to be in the same directory to use ./
[06:18] <Zelda> I am in the same dir
[06:18] <Zelozelos> i still want the power one
[06:18] <Zelda> its asking where  you want to install dir.
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, that's up to you where to install - into your home dir or /opt would be fine
[06:18] <Zelda> thanks.
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, sorry don't know how to separate those ones sorry
[06:19] <Zelda> its going. Thanks for the assist.
[06:19] <Zelozelos> ah well thank you anyhow
[06:20] <Zelozelos> oh cool i just found the shut down applet, that'll work :)
[06:20] <robertzaccour> will gnome 3 be in 10.10?
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> robertzaccour, probably, but i don't think its been officially announced yet
[06:23] <robertzaccour> ZykoticK9, oh ok because i know gnome 3 will be ready not too long before 10.10, just wasn't sure if that would be too rushed to get it on there or what
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo +1
[06:25] <markl_> is anyone here familiar with setting up a PPA?
[06:26] <robertzaccour> markl_, a little
[06:26] <markl_> is that anything beyond just an http server that apt-get can hit?
[06:26] <robertzaccour> markl_, i know how to copy/paste to the gui
[06:26] <markl_> i have set up apt repositories before, just wondering if PPA is the same thing
[06:27] <robertzaccour> PPA usually has an authentication key right?
[06:27] <robertzaccour> not sure on the terminology, got some experience though i could probably look at it and figure it out
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Robertzaccour: i'd email some guys who made their own to ask how they did it
[06:28] <robertzaccour> i've never made a ppa, just used them
[06:28] <chris_> why does 10.04 always look for a cd before it will boot? It will say it cant find the cd, keep waiting or press s to continue
[06:28] <fvs> robertzaccour, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Chris_: is your bios first boot device a cd?
[06:29] <robertzaccour> i'm goin to sleep, later yall
[06:29] <chris_> probably but with 9.10 if there was no cd it would just skip it
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Chris_: set your bootable hdd as first boot, see if it changes
[06:30] <chris_> alright. i will be back
[06:32] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I forgot where I can set that menu items not only show a text but in addition a symbol. Was that somewhere in Nautilus?
[06:37] <chris_> ActionParsnip: i just changed it and it didnt work
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Ok so its definately the OS
[06:38] <Zelda> interesting. A new MyTouch Slide...
[06:38] <Zelda> hrm. I was about to get the MyTouch 3g.
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Only thing I can advise is look at your grub config as that is clearly at fault. I'm not too conversant with grub but you now know the culprit
[06:38] <Zelozelos> Chris_ are you dual booting?
[06:38] <chris_> the new purple ubuntu screen comes up and says: the disk drive for /media/sdb1 is not ready yet or not present. continue to wait, or press s to skip mounting
[06:38] <chris_> yes
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Chris_: then review /etc/fstab with the output of: sudo fdisk -l; sudo blkid
[06:40] <ninjai_> chorse: for my keyboard backlight I looked at the link you sent me and I have the file they mention.  it works if i use echo <0-3> | tee <filename>, but the shortcut keys dont work.  any idea how I can do this? shortcut keys show up in xev..
[06:47] <ninjai_> anyone know how how i can get my keyboard shortcut keys to work for backlight? this command works: /usr/bin/keyboard_backlight 3
[06:47] <ninjai_> but i cant get it to do it with the shrotcut keys
[06:47] <ninjai_> and this is what it shows in xev
[06:47] <ninjai_> KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[06:47] <ninjai_>     keys:  4294967278 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[06:47] <ninjai_>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[06:48] <chris4585> !pastebin
[06:48] <mawst> Anyone know anything about USB Internet from Sprint (over their cell network).
[06:48] <mawst> I have the "modem"
[06:50] <Guest78617> Does anyone here know where I can get more themes for lucid?
[06:50] <ninjai_> gnome-look.org
[06:52] <mawst> Anyone using the u304?
[06:52] <ninjai_> whats that
[06:52] <Guest78617> ninjai- when I go there what exactly am I looking for, like the GTK themes or what?
[06:52] <ninjai_> yes, gtk 2 themes
[06:54] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I forgot where I can set that menu items not only show a text but in addition a symbol. Was that somewhere in Nautilus?
[06:58] <Guest78617> What are the GDM themes?
[06:58] <chris4585> Guest78617, login themes
[06:58] <Guest78617> thank you chris
[06:59] <magopian> hi there guys
[06:59] <kuttans> hiii everybody, had a very bad experience in upgrading my karmic to lucid
[06:59] <magopian> since this morning, i can't log in to X
[07:00] <kuttans> but once again thx to linux and ubuntu to increase my creativity every time i do a dist upgrade
[07:00] <magopian> i have gdm, i can enter login/pass, but as it is going to log me in, it just takes me back to the login screen (login/pass are correct, i can log in using a tty, and i have no "bad login" message)
[07:00] <kuttans> well now some interesting questions are with me, anyone interested just join me
[07:00] <kuttans> i have a encrypted swap and due to plymouth not running the swap space is not mounted
[07:01] <Guest78617> what would I be looking for if I wanted to change the way the windows in linux themes?
[07:01] <dr3mro> please i can't export schemas from nautilus actions 2.30 i think its a bug and there is a new version of 2.30.1 but i cant find a deb file cny help using daily built of ubuntu lucid here updated to now !!!
 what you mean by windows?
 the theme of the windows can be changed by going to system->preferences -> appearance
[07:03] <kuttans> why plymouth is not running, and y bcoz of that my swap space is not mounted??
[07:04] <magopian> btw, is it "normal" that gdm runs on tty8 ?
[07:04] <magopian> it seems that gdm runs on tty8 and X on tty7
[07:05] <magopian> (but then, X doesn't seem to run properly in my case, it's just a black screen
[07:05] <magopian> (maybe that's why i can't login :(
[07:05] <kuttans> magopian : all x related problems are due to the plymouth
[07:06] <magopian> anyway, anyone has a clue?
[07:06] <magopian> plymouth?
[07:06] <magopian> never heard of it
[07:06] <magopian> it did work perfectly well yesterday (and this morning)
[07:06] <magopian> but then i restarted :(
[07:06] <mawst> Anyone know what I need to install to get the usbserial kernel module?
[07:06] <kuttans> try to remove the quiet in your boot line and check out -
[07:07] <kuttans> actually its the new splash theme ubuntu is incorporating in the lucid i guess, and beyond that im not well aware of
[07:08] <magopian> kuttans, remove the quiet in your boot line and check out what?
[07:08] <magopian> sorry i didn't understand that :(
[07:11] <bullgard4> http://www.gstreamer.net/data/doc/gstreamer/head/manual/html/section-checklist-debug.html: "You can set the GST_DEBUG_NO_COLOR environment variable to 1." In what file should I do that? [Ubuntu 10.04]
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Bullguard4: $HOME/.bashrc
[07:12] <Guest78617> but isnt there a way to get more theme for those windows?  Like how you could change the whole theme/look of the other distros of linux into like a Mac look, or a windows xp or vista or 7 look?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Bullguard4: export it like the other variables
[07:13] <magopian> man, the recovery mode in grub doesn't even work correctly: it boots, then black screen, and nothing else (can't even switch to a tty)
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest78617: there's a script called gnomexp which will make you OS look like XP. There's also mac4lin to make it look like a mac
[07:14] <st4aluck> help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: could reinstall grub from liveCD
[07:14] <Guest78617> do you know if there is a script that will make it look like windows 7?
[07:14] <magopian> ActionParsnip, i don't believe it's grub's fault
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: can you boot to recovery root console?
[07:15] <magopian> if i try booting in "normal" mode, it does work (well, i mean i have gdm and all, just i have my issue where i can't login to x, it keeps getting me back to gdm for some reason)
[07:15] <magopian> i don't even know how to start troubleshooting this issue :(
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: hold shift at boot, select your kernel but choose recovery, then select root
[07:16] <magopian> ActionParsnip, let me try that straight away
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: see if you can read logs and/or startx from there
[07:17] <magopian> so, let me understand
[07:17] <magopian> what is the use of holding shift? what should it do in grub?
[07:17] <magopian> i have grub at the very moment in front of my eyes (on my desktop computer)
[07:18] <Blue11> hmm in windows, that used to bypass the startup files...
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: select recovery mode for your kernel, then select root (like I said above)
[07:18] <magopian> and if i select the first entry (ubuntu, with linux 2.6.32-16-generic) it boots, and takes me to gdm (but then, i can't login to X, even though i can login to a tty)
[07:19] <magopian> if i select the second entry (ubuntu, with linux 2.6.32-16-generic (recovery mode)) then it just takes me to a black screen, and nothing happens (can't even switch to a tty)
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: after selecting recovery, what option are you selecting?
[07:19] <magopian> there's no option
[07:19] <magopian> should there be one?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Yes there will be a small menu
[07:20] <magopian> if i press shift?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> No, you hold shift at boot to make grub2 show its options
[07:20] <magopian> ah!!!
[07:20] <magopian> it worked (pressing shift) while i was shutting down
[07:21] <magopian> isn't that weird? it didn't when i was starting up Oo
[07:21] <magopian> so, "drop to root shell prompt" i guess ;)
[07:21] <magopian> what should i do from there?
[07:21] <Vigo> magopian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: try starting x as well as try reading logs in /var/log
[07:22] <magopian> ActionParsnip, which logs? i mean, i have checked gdm logs, and i have nothing strange appart a warning that seems unimportant (after searching on google) about /Etc/gdm/custom.conf not being there
[07:22] <dr3mro> any one help me to create a deb file for nautilus-actions 2.30.1
[07:22] <magopian> i xorg.log i have some messages aboug ddsig exiting
[07:24] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: is there no ppa
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: ok go find what that means and it should give clues
[07:25] <magopian> ActionParsnip, the message i have in xorg.0.log when trying to login using gdm: ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[07:25] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, can i build from source it says there is alot of dependency i dont have to ./configure
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: in google search for; ppa search ,the first result will allow you to search launcpad's ppas and you may find one ready compiled
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: if you want to compile you will need to get the -dev packages of all the deps for the build so you can compile
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> St4aluck: i'd log a bug
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> St4aluck: make sure you have the toshiba acpi packages installed
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !find tosh
[07:28] <magopian> ActionParsnip, is it possible to "stop and restart" x?
[07:28] <magopian> to start x i just type "startx", but to stop it?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: you can kill the process I guess or use: sudo gdm stop
[07:30] <DanaG> hmm, here's a log of my boot....
[07:30] <magopian> ok that did the trick
[07:30] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/amtterm.log
[07:30] <magopian> i then did a startx, and i have a few errors:
[07:30] <DanaG> plymouth is actively refusing to show splash.
[07:31] <magopian> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Microsoft Miscrosoft 2.4GHz Transceiver V2.0"
[07:31] <magopian> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Macintosh mouse button emulation"
[07:31] <magopian> and before that:
[07:32] <magopian> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[07:32] <magopian> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[07:32] <magopian> and X is just a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left of the screen
[07:33] <DanaG> so yeah......... plymouth is a no-go for me.
[07:34] <slyrus_> ah, missed the lucid lynx channel...
[07:34] <msanchez> DanaG: are you having the same problem than me then? I got bug #561151 fixed, but plymouth is not working and whenever it boots I need to select "resume normal boot" in a curses interface that shows up
[07:36] <DanaG> nope, I haven't had such issues.
[07:36] <DanaG> er
[07:36] <DanaG> wait...
[07:36] <DanaG> anyway, my boot works fine... just never ever shows splash.
[07:37] <msanchez> ok thx... then it might be something else
[07:37] <msanchez> I'll look through launchpad to see whether I can find something like this
[07:37] <switchgirl> hi who decided to not include gnomes activity monitor by default?
[07:38] <switchgirl> its awesome and makes ubuntu better
[07:38] <switchgirl>  gnome activity journal*
[07:38] <msanchez> hmmm... maybe some issue with nvidia drivers? I'll check that out
[07:40] <billybigrigger> hmm
[07:40] <billybigrigger> 29639 root      20   0 26948 6032 2408 R  100  0.1   1588:11 backend
[07:40] <billybigrigger> that process look familiar to anyone?
[07:41] <billybigrigger> backend?
[07:41] <Blue11> somethings, you don't want to know
[07:42] <billybigrigger> root     29639 77.1  0.1  26948  6032 ?        Rs   Apr12 1589:53 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/checkbox/backend /tmp/checkboxgMHa5w/input
[07:42] <billybigrigger> very odd
[07:42] <billybigrigger> love the 100% cpu usage though
[07:43] <Vigo> My Network Manager Applet is corrupted on another user of this box, I make that account Admin and repair it, I feel that is a security thing, do I just sudo while on it? or Switch User?
[07:53] <votan> hey guys, is it ok that the updater shows me a lot of "Fail"s for translation-en-us ?
[07:55] <iconmefisto> billybigrigger: man backend
[08:00] <st4aluck> ubottu: My laptop is not very old and I think that laptop's BIOS only supports ACPI and not APM, shall I install toshutils
[08:14] <msanchez> same problem with nouveau
[08:38] <GutZuWiSSeN> hmm.. i cant browse the network in 10.04 .. are there any known bugs or workarounds?  (error cannot open network:///
[08:39] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: have samba installed?
[08:40] <GutZuWiSSeN> arrr .. it has been deinstalled?! ^^
[08:40] <GutZuWiSSeN> mom
[08:41] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: you will need samba, and insure you are not firewalled
[08:41] <ojii> hi everyeone
[08:41] <jussi01> !mac
[08:41] <jussi01> hrm
[08:41] <ojii> I try to install ubuntu (10.04 beta 2) on my macbook pro, but after I select "install ubuntu" from the live cd menu all i get is a black screen with a white cursor blinking in the top left corner. What am I doing wrong?
[08:41] <jussi01> ojii: hang  on a sec
[08:41] <ojii> ah
[08:41] <ojii> i ctrl-w failed again in xchat with multi screens :(
[08:41] <GutZuWiSSeN> almoxarife, yeah i have samba installed .. it worked fine in 9.10 .. but i get the error after the upgrade (like a friend of mine, too)
[08:41] <jussi01> ojii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[08:42] <ojii> jussi01: i read everything i could find on help.ubuntu.com concerning macbooks which apply to my model
[08:42] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: what error?
[08:42] <jussi01> ojii: so you have refit installed etc?
[08:43] <ojii> jussi01: yes i have refit and made a second partition using DiskUtility
[08:43] <BUGabundo_remote> the tuggs say Hi
[08:43] <jussi01> ojii: which generation do you have?
[08:43] <ojii> jussi01: 5.2
[08:43]  * jussi01 has a 2.1 and it works fine. 
[08:43] <ojii> or was it 5.1? lemme check quickly
[08:43] <jussi01> ojii: try the alternate installer
[08:43] <ojii> argh meaning i need to find another cd :(
[08:43] <ojii> silly mac that can't boot from usb
[08:44] <jussi01> ojii: i hear you...
[08:44] <ojii> ah it's a 5.1
[08:45] <ojii> jussi01: any idea how i can find out if my macbook supports x64?
[08:46] <jussi01> ojii: no, sorry. Ive no idea :/
[08:46] <ojii> okay
[08:46] <ojii> i'll just assume a core 2 duo is 64 bit
[08:46] <GutZuWiSSeN> The error is: Could not display "network:///".  Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations.   when i click on "network"
[08:46] <GutZuWiSSeN> any ideas?
[08:47] <EruditeHermit> hello, does anyone know how to get past the error http://pastebin.com/2kSwz5z4 when upgrading to lucid?
[08:47] <EruditeHermit> ojii, it should work on core 2 duo
[08:47] <ojii> thanks EruditeHermit
[08:48] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: I also had samba issues when I upgraded, mine resolved by completely removing samba and then re-installing
[08:49] <GutZuWiSSeN> almoxarife, hmm okay thx, ill try that
[08:49] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: and I mean -purge
[08:49] <GutZuWiSSeN> all right
[08:49] <ratte_> Acer Aspire One AOA-150 hot plug card readers not work in 10.04 any ideas for problem
[08:52] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[08:53] <st4aluck> ~$ /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose
[08:53] <st4aluck> This CPU has nx in the flags, so the BIOS is not disabling it.
[08:56] <st4aluck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[08:58] <blue102> how to make icons on the desktop with lucid xubuntu
[09:01] <switchgirl> !rhythmbox
[09:01] <switchgirl> !gnome-bugs
[09:02] <chorse> Blue11: right click, create launcher.
[09:02] <switchgirl> !gnome
[09:02] <switchgirl> agh
[09:02] <switchgirl> i give up
[09:02] <switchgirl> what irc server do i use to annoy the dev's or rhthmbox?
[09:03] <chorse> switchgirl: irc.gnome.org, #rhythmbox
[09:04] <Guest32079> can i ask support questions for 10.4 here?
[09:04] <Votan> yes Guest32079
[09:04] <switchgirl> no. lmao course you can
[09:05] <switchgirl> !ask
[09:05] <Guest32079> thx
[09:05] <Votan> anyone here running beta2 on a samsung n220 ? I dont get the god damn screen brightness to work -.-
[09:06] <Guest32079> i've got a newer laptop HP dv6 w/ AMD/ATI chipset, the update manager keeps trying to install nvidia drivers on me
[09:06] <Guest32079> how can I stop that
[09:08] <Guest32079> any thoughts?
[09:10] <Guest32079> oh and does anyone know it remix will be coming out with a 10.4 update too?
[09:11] <Zelozelos> heres an interesting question, i was surfing around and came accross this site   http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/09/14/animated-wallpaper-with-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu/
[09:11] <Zelozelos> will this still work???
[09:11] <iconmefisto> Guest32079: maybe try removing nvidia-current-modaliases
[09:11] <GutZuWiSSeN> yeah it works again
[09:11] <Zelozelos> b-cuz THAT would be really cool ?)
[09:12] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[09:12] <GutZuWiSSeN> fyi: installing gvfs-backends and rebooting fixxed the network problem
[09:12] <Guest32079> thx icon
[09:13] <slyrus_> ok, got sound working ok with hdmi, i just wish I could get it to be a little louder...
[09:13] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote u gave me a link to the kernel team ppa the other day to get the .33 for trim support. DO u got that link somewhere ? i forgot to bookmark it and cant find a working ppa for newer kernels
[09:14] <Zelozelos> slyrus did you try clicking on the volume icon and click sound prefs, then you can go beyond 100%
[09:14] <Zelozelos> anyone know if xwinwrap still works?
[09:16] <[diablo]> good morning all
[09:16] <[diablo]> is anyone having issues with booting the latest release of the kernel on an Acer Aspire One D250 please?
[09:19] <almoxarife> [diablo]: that a wubi install?
[09:19] <[diablo]> hi almoxarife nope
[09:19] <st4aluck> Pls help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[09:19] <[diablo]> almoxarife, it was done using desktop install
[09:19] <almoxarife> desktop?
[09:20] <almoxarife> [diablo]: explain desktop install
[09:21] <[diablo]> almoxarife, not the alternate, the desktop 386 iso
[09:21] <almoxarife> [diablo]: into a partion ?
[09:22] <maccam94> does anyone else have trouble with ksoftirqd eating the cpu after suspend/hibernate?
[09:23] <[diablo]> almoxarife, its a dual boot, but the issue is something acer specific
[09:25] <Votan> is anyone using LogFS with an SSD ?
[09:26] <st4aluck> Pls help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[09:26] <ojii> is there something like wubi for mac?
[09:27] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: google ubuntu kernel team ppa
[09:27] <maccam94> ojii: bootcamp is probably the way to go
[09:27] <popey> ojii: there was a plan for MUBI
[09:27] <ojii> mubi would be great
[09:27] <popey> ojii: in fact there was a plan for LUBI too!
[09:27] <ojii> w00t
[09:27] <popey> dont think either was finished
[09:27] <BUGabundo_remote> st4aluck: we would appreciate if you stop repeating your question
[09:28] <ojii> popey: someone should (I wish I could)
[09:28] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote that's the one i found, but it is returning a 404 :/
[09:28] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: sec
[09:28] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[09:29] <ojii> popey: actually lubi seems to exist (see http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lubi.html)
[09:29] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote i see, thx, was it you who said he uses LogFS or was that someone else ?
[09:30] <popey> ojii: not made by the wubi author, looks very different
[09:30] <popey> the wubi author (ago) had planned them
[09:30] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: not me
[09:30] <popey> but maybe he droped it, it was over a year ago at UDS I spoke to him about it
[09:30] <popey> maybe even 2 years
[09:31] <ojii> popey: i don't really care who did it, as long as it works :D
[09:32] <popey> :)
[09:34] <Zelozelos> OMG i simply must share this, some of you prob already know aobut it but... theres a prog called xwinwrap you can get it at   http://en.opensuse.org/Xwinwrap   stick it in your bin folder, then alt f2, type xwinwrap -ni -argb -fs -s -st -sp -nf -b -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -window-id WID   and POW you now have the matrix screen saver running over your background, and you can change your background still! check it out man!!!
[09:36] <BUGabundo_remote> ahah ZOMG SO TRUE http://xkcd.com/727/
[09:37] <ojii> BUGabundo_remote: never heard anyone say 'backslash' in urls
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> oh I have
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> but read the tag note
[09:38] <BUGabundo_remote> mouse overlay
[09:38] <ojii> haha
[09:39] <st4aluck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/553084
[09:42] <Zelozelos> hmm i wonder if i can get it to work on the panel instead of the background
[09:52] <Votan> so, I installed kernel .33 in 10.04 beta2 ... now theoretically it should do TRIM automatically, right? There's nothing else i have to add in lycid ?
[09:54] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: beats me! I'm counting on you to update us! you better email kernel team, or ask in their #
[09:54] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you think you can help out on SSD TRIM ?
[09:55] <apw> yes .33 should have ATA TRIM and it should occur automatically if you are using a filesystem which supports trim
[10:00] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: ^^^^ there you go. thanks apw.
[10:00] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: will/was any of it be backported to lucid kernels ?
[10:00] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote apw atm i use ext4, it should support trim afaik. I thought about trying LogFS, but I do not trust .34 rc4 as rc3 had quite a few issues
[10:01] <apw> BUGabundo_remote, nope not backported currently, the patches are marginal size wise
[10:03] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: marginal as in, too big? or easy enough to port before feature freeze, and make the LTS have inicial support for TRIM ?
[10:03] <apw> feature freeze has long past
[10:05] <Votan> imho .33 should have been in for 10.04 as it is an LTS release and SSDs are definately coming
[10:07] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: well, not the opinion that counts :)
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> if you read a bit on it, many other distros will be using .32 for a long time window
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> making it wise for use to use it for a LTS
[10:08] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote yes but what'S the reason behind this ? What are the main concerns against .33 ?
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: from what I've read in steve emails, *final* FF is tomorrow
[10:08] <apw> no FF == FINAL FREEZE
[10:09] <BUGabundo_remote> 33 is even, 32 is odd ! jk
[10:09] <apw> FF == FEATURE FREEZE is past
[10:09] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: ahh
[10:09] <BUGabundo_remote> darn short writting :)
[10:10] <apw> Votan, the reason is that this is an LTS, therefore we chose a more conservative kernel, one which most of the long-term supported releases are going with to gain economy of scale
[10:10] <apw> feature freeze was much earlier this cycle as a result
[10:10] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: is there any oficial docs (as in ubuntu-docs bug) to tell users that need TRIM support to use kernel team PPA kernels ?
[10:12] <apw> BUGabundo_remote, not that i know of no
[10:12] <apw> trim is a .33 feature, so we'd not expect to have it
[10:12] <BUGabundo_remote> but we have it in the .33+ kernels that are in kernel team ppa
[10:12] <apw> and frankly relying on a feature which is new in a release is risky in an LTS
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> so, if an user comes here (and in the future to #ubuntu and ubuntu forums) asking for support for the LTS, what should we say?
[10:13] <apw> BUGabundo_remote, those are totally unsupported diagnostic kernels so we don't recommend them
[10:13] <coz_> hey guys... out of curiosity... why is the indicator-applet icon an envelope???
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> No oficial support? install PPA?
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> ok apw. thanks
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> will act accordingly
[10:14] <apw> a tricky one, noone has formally asked for it that i know of, so we've not had to consider it
[10:14] <apw> i am sure someone will, and we'll have to consider it a
[10:14] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: kklimonda, bjsnider, maco, FYI: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ on trim suppport
[10:14] <arand> coz_: First used for evolution and pidgin/empathy, meant for messages...
[10:14] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: to late now, I guess
[10:14] <apw> and decide if the risk is worth it
[10:14] <coz_> arand,  right  but that's the point no?  it visually represents  "mail"
[10:15] <apw> its might be something which could be sru'd if its not tooo invasive, but i've not looked
[10:15] <apw> in enough detail to know the risks
[10:15] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: if you want, please file a bug requesting trim support and ping kernel team, and wait their decision on the subject, so we know how to act during LTS support
[10:16] <arand> coz_: um, yes... that's likely the point, um... what was your question actually?
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> thanks apw. if it comes up again, ill let you or some other kernel team know! I've seen at least 5 users in here asking for it, this two last weeks
[10:16] <apw> someone always wants more, thats the way of people
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> I'll be getting an SSD in the next few weeks, so I'm an interested party
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> but in two weeks, I'll be running 10.10 so.... I dont care that much
[10:16] <apw> i'll personally be pleased if the kernel works well on most peoples machines at release
[10:17] <coz_> arand,  well my point is that  the icon image itself is not really representative of  "indicator"  I was just curious  since ,,,as an artist... I find the choice somewhat abstract
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: I don't doubt that
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> but a 3 year desktop and 5 why server kernel with no SSD trim support, seems kinda rash
[10:18] <arand> coz_: FOr the applications using it, I think it's rather appropriate, maybe the name isn't but that's the only thing...
[10:18] <coz_> arand,  ok :)  i disagree  but not trying to start an issue :)
[10:22] <ia> hello. could anyone tell me, please, how to play youtube html5 video in firefox (3.6) on ubuntu (lucid beta)? I will be very appreciate for any useful links about installing necessary codec packages and set up related settings. I guess, that somehow i should "tell" firefox, that video tag can contains not only theora/ogg video, but h264 - how in that case to tell firefox use not only ogg codecs, but h264 codecs (from gstreamer, for example) also?
[10:24] <Trewas> ia: firefox does not support any external codecs (yet?) and html5&h264 is not possible
[10:25] <Bittarman> firefox has no plans to support h264 while its not free either
[10:27] <navi> hi , I instaled ubuntu 10.4 and ati drivers, I can run ati control panel , but its impposible to run compiz
[10:27] <navi> any ideas how to fix it ?
[10:29] <navi> help?
[10:37] <h2o> morning everyone
[10:38] <h2o> could anyone explain me, if i can update my karmic koala to lucid beta ?
[10:38] <Votan> what does the vm.swappiness entry mean again ? 0 = no swapping ?
[10:39] <bazhang> h2o, sure you can, do you wish to do a fresh install when it is released, or upgrade an existing install
[10:39] <h2o> upgrade
[10:40] <h2o> i have karmic allready, all tunned up :)
[10:41] <bazhang> h2o, then read the upgrade link I sent you
[10:41] <navi> I want my compiz ... ;(
[10:42] <red> how do I search recursively in nautilus+
[10:42] <red> ?
[11:08] <vistakiller1> some package are break in last updates
[11:08] <vistakiller1> audacious
[11:08] <vistakiller1> plasma network manager for kde
[11:22] <h2o> ird party sources disabled
[11:22] <h2o> Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
[11:22] <h2o> ??
[11:24] <bazhang> h2o, that is normal
[11:24] <LordMetroid> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.32-20-generic_2.6.32-20.29_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.30 80]
[11:24] <h2o> were is software properties ?
[12:06] <marienz> yay, I broke dpkg: dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'gnokii' in statoverride file
[12:06] <marienz> that's not supposed to happen, right?
[12:07] <marienz> ah, it's bug 537025
[12:11] <LordMetroid> Anyone else getting:
[12:11] <LordMetroid> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.32-20-generic_2.6.32-20.29_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.30 80]
[12:11] <LordMetroid> When trying to update?
[12:13] <om26er> LordMetroid, try changing your download mirror
[12:13] <LordMetroid> to what?
[12:13] <om26er> LordMetroid, another
[12:14] <om26er> LordMetroid, though choose a nearer location
[12:18] <Lazy> isn't this the most recent one? http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.32-20-generic_2.6.32-20.30_i386.deb
[12:35] <struts> Hi, after updating to Lucid, I can't use key combinations (like ä, é etc.) in Anki (built on Qt) regardless of whicht keyboard layout I'm using. Any idea?
[12:38] <Votan> erm, as there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst in 20.04, where can I add elevator=noop instead ?
[12:39] <Votan> 10.04*
[12:40] <coc0nut> /etc/default/grub maybe
[12:46] <Votan> coc0nut that works, but can i still put elevator=noop into that file when using grub2 or did the setting change syntax?
[12:47] <Votan> ah, nevermind, found the answer :)
[12:54] <Szatan> hello
[12:55] <om26er> my hardrive usage increases so much that the system starts lagging and eventually apps start hanging. how do I know which process is using my HD. cpu and ram usage are normal
[12:55] <hylman> I've installed 10.04 beta 1, but everytime it boots and performs disk check, the system just hang up @ 71%. have anyone experienced the same issue?
[12:56] <coc0nut> No, but it might be fixed in beta 2
[12:58] <hylman> well, i updated my system yesterday, so I believe this is already beta 2. And, i just get the same error again today
[12:58] <om26er> hylman, can you run recovery mode?
[12:59]  * om26er is facing a critical bug(well dont even know which package to blame)
[13:02] <hylman> no.. it won't let me do anything, except shutting down,i.e.: i pressed the power button and it shut down.
[13:02] <andatche> is it possible to make upstart show a traditional style output for init.d scripts when booting without quite and splash?
[13:03] <andatche> currently I get no output between the end of the kernel messages and getty starting
[13:03] <hylman> where can I see the error log?
[13:03] <andatche> I've tried with "--verbose" which spews a huge amount of information out, but nothing like the old "starting ......         [ OK ]" which I'd like
[13:07] <alvin> andatche: See bug 328881 and bug 548954
[13:07] <alvin> In my experience, removing quiet and splash isn't adequate. You don't see the plymouth messages every time an error occurs and your system halts
[13:08] <andatche> alvin: thanks, re 548954, I've tried adding "nosplash" and still get nothing
[13:15] <geekphreak> question : what was the shortcut for xkill?
[13:16] <om26er> alt+sysrq+k ?
[13:16] <geekphreak> which is sysrq?
[13:16] <bazhang> print screen
[13:17] <geekphreak> bazhang: nope that aint orking
[13:20] <hylman> anybody can help me? where can I see the boot log of the previous session?
[13:26] <BUGabundo_remote> this is calm today
[13:30]  * Crashbit bye!
[13:33] <josip> hello, I have just upgraded to lucid beta and there seem to be rpoblems with fglrx (can't get installed). Anyone familiar with this?
[13:33] <josip> it also broke apt-get http://pastebin.com/ePkeq1BE
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:39] <josip> anyone with an idea?
[13:40] <geekphreak> /part
[13:41] <holstein> hey josip
[13:41] <josip> hey hey
[13:42] <holstein> is it one of these?
[13:42] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/546917
[13:42] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/552782
[13:42] <holstein> OH
[13:42] <holstein> the second one then
[13:43]  * holstein notices duplicate
[13:45] <josip> http://pastebin.com/ETwg6Tcz
[13:45] <josip> apt-get -f install
[13:47] <josip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/559587
[13:47] <josip> doesn't seem to be solved
[13:48] <holstein> Bug #559587 seems to be a better fit
[13:48]  * holstein agrees
[13:48] <josip> :/
[13:49] <holstein> they'll get it :)
[13:59] <red> hmm
[13:59] <red> my numpad hasn't been working for past few days
[13:59] <red> any ideas what could cause it?
[14:00] <red> pressing zero on the numpad, wether num lock is on or off, starts some sort of "select" mode from cursors current position
[14:00] <Bittarman> red, probably orca got turned on
[14:00] <red> pressing five does the same thing for the duration 5 is held
[14:00] <red> how do I uninstall it? :p
[14:00] <Bittarman> system -> preferences -> assistive technologies
[14:00] <red> apt-get remove?
[14:00] <Bittarman> untick the enable button
[14:01] <Pici> red: press ctrl-shift-numlock and see if that fixes it
[14:01] <red> had pointer can be controlled from numpad on
[14:01] <red> now it works :)
[14:01] <red> whats the packages name?
[14:01] <red> wasn't orca - no need to load it up ever
[14:02] <red> i recall uninstalling it a few times from software manager but it keeps coming back with upgrades
[14:02] <red> so is there some way to mark it for no installation, ever?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[14:02] <Pici> red: Removing it isnt going to stop that numpad behavior, thats an xorg feature iirc.
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Mouse moveing with numpad = Xorg feature. Correct
[14:03] <red> well enabling it must have come thru some keybinding from orca :)
[14:03] <red> atleast i guess so
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> I forget the keybinding that enables/disables it.
[14:04] <Pici> ctrl-shift-num is the xorg keybinding that enables it, I remember using it long ago before I had ever used ubuntu
[14:04] <red> aight
[14:04] <red> ty
[14:11] <RambJoe> do the ati drivers work yet?
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> ive heard peopel using them in here.. but no idea on what cards
[14:15] <RambJoe> ok thanks
[14:17] <TommyThaGun> if I don't have and ATI or Radeon card, is it okay to remove the packages: xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[14:18] <TommyThaGun> and I guess the same question for nv
[14:18] <TommyThaGun> they came automatically installed, so I'm just wondering if there is something from them that is needed
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> I would leave stuff alone.
[14:19] <patdk-wk> TommyThaGun, no you don't need them, and could remove them
[14:19] <patdk-wk> but most of the time things just generically depend on them
[14:19] <patdk-wk> so it's not easy
[14:19] <TommyThaGun> oh, got ya
[14:19] <patdk-wk> and overall, having them only wastes disk space
[14:19] <patdk-wk> and if I remember correctly, <1meg
[14:20] <TommyThaGun> ok
[14:20] <TommyThaGun> so if its a depend thing then it's not worth it to try and remove them
[14:21] <patdk-wk> nope
[14:21] <patdk-wk> you can try to apt-get remove them
[14:21] <patdk-wk> and see what all it attempts to wipe out :)
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> ive seen too many systems trashed by people trying to remove stff they dident need..
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> are you that short of drive space?
[14:22] <TommyThaGun> no
[14:22] <TommyThaGun> I'm not too worried about trashing my system
[14:22] <TommyThaGun> in that, I don't think I will remove something that will trash it
[14:22] <patdk-wk> Dr_Willis, dunno, never had an issue with removing things, and I remove everything I don't need
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> try removeing plymouth right now. :)
[14:22] <patdk-wk> but then, if I trash it, I know how to fix it also
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> I just like things to be clean... sort of a case of disk space OCD
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> plymouth doesn't even work on my system for some reason
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> or it doesn't show
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> and then when Gnome loads, sometimes it gives me a crash that can't be reported
[14:23] <quiritius> what's which this message during boot "broken pipe could not write bytes"? anybody knows?
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> quiritius:  yes ive seen it..
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> quiritius, I get the same thing
[14:24] <thiebaude> i have seen it also quiritius
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> wait... no! I didn't get it this time I booted
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> no idea why, or what its about. it gets fixed.. then breaks again a update later.. then gets fixed again
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> oh
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> I got it when i rebooted earlier.. then i did a update got 200+mb of updates. :)
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> not tried it since then
[14:24] <alvin> I have, fd0 read error, and then grub rescue>
[14:25] <quiritius> it seems to vary from boot to boot. update or not...
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> You even have a floppy disk?
[14:25] <patdk-wk> actually, removing xorg-video-radeon is easy, and frees up 2megs :)
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> Now ya got room for.. a whole.. nother mp3!
[14:26] <patdk-wk> 1/4 of an mp3 :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> You are leet and 192+rates :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> or listen to Looooong songs.
[14:26] <patdk-wk> only do 320kbit
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> I ermber when 192 was 'high end' :)
[14:26] <patdk-wk> I only put it into mp3 format for *compatability*
[14:26] <patdk-wk> otherwise it's uncompressed :)
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> I rember when it took hours+ to rip a cd to mp3. :)  the Pent 100 days!
[14:27] <patdk-wk> I remember making mpegs in 24hours for 2hour movie
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> I wonder whatever happened to that one feature where the file manager whold show a audio cd as mp3's and wav's and flacs
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> I dont even recall if it was a KDE feature or a Gnome one.
[14:28] <alvin> ok, i disabled floppy support in the BIOS. Now grub doesn't find any disk.
[14:28] <alvin> It booted once, then I took a snapshot of a volume, and rebooted. No booting anymore. Can something be done in that 'grub rescue>' thing?
[14:29] <alvin> (Yes, there is a floppy disk.)
[14:30] <alvin> error: fd0 read error.
[14:30] <alvin> error: no such disk.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> i recall some default grub option that can cause issues.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. see if your /boot/grub/grub.cfg has lines like -->
[14:31] <Dr_Willis>  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set e44da18d-9ed6-4fb8-9e1a-5c415af594d4
[14:32] <alvin> I can't get into that file. Holding shift at boot doesn't work either. These messages appear right after 'GRUB loading'. (mdamd RAID1 here)
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall someone else that had issues wth the --no-floppy   default options
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> raid? Hmm no idea on using raid.
[14:32] <alvin> It might even be related to the snapshot. I wanted to test if I could boot when there is a snapshots somewhere. My other computers have troubles with that.
[14:33] <lastelement0> hey everyone, i have 10.04 installed on my desktop fully updated. i can connect to the internet just fine, but when i try to download files, it will just stall. but i am still connected and able to use IM and browse the web. what could be the cause?
[14:33] <alvin> The boot issues of Lucid are pretty severe at this stage. I hope it gets sorted out before release and don't mind waiting for that.
[14:34] <TommyThaGun> I've booted fine from the beginning
[14:35] <TommyThaGun> actually, with the the latest kernel update, 5 seconds were shaved off of boot time and shutdown time
[14:35] <TommyThaGun> but, I know that's not the case with all systems
[14:35] <alvin> Well, I have to admit you have to use technologies like LVM (or NFS in karmic) in order to have issues. But the issues are sever for server users
[14:35] <TommyThaGun> oh
[14:35] <sealview> hi guys. I have a problem with Lucid, my display is making like an old TVBox when a program is not well tunned, is flickering, and shaking, does any one know anything about this?
[14:35] <alvin> Maybe it's a bit blunt, but I don't care about boot time. I care about being able to boot.
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> haha
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> right, I suppose I would too if I wasn't able to boot
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> sealview, does hitting the side of the screen fix it?
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> I used to do that to my TV and it worked fine
[14:38] <sealview> yeah,but that one didn't had LED tech in it, right?
[14:38] <TommyThaGun> no, it was definitely CRT
[14:39] <sealview> now really it's very frustrating, I can't do much this way
[14:39] <TommyThaGun> what sort of programs is it sealview ?
[14:39] <TommyThaGun> or is it doing it all the time?
[14:40] <LivenDie> Is everyone else having problems with Plymouth?
[14:40] <TommyThaGun> I m LivenDie
[14:40] <TommyThaGun> I still have yet to see this mysterious "Plymouth" I keep hearing about
[14:40] <sealview> after it boots and enters the X.org (I presume) or Plymouth it starts flickering and shaking all the time till shutdown
[14:41] <TommyThaGun> I can confirm that it exists, since I have received an error on it's behalf
[14:41] <TommyThaGun> but that's all LivenDie
[14:41] <LivenDie> Two weeks until release...I hope this is fixed
[14:41] <LivenDie> It works fine on initial install but when I install the Nvidia drivers, it breaks
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Plymouth is like the biggest problem ;) ive seen in a long time
[14:42] <chuckf> I'm running into a network problem on beta2 with my dell mini9. Wireless doesn't seem to work at all and the wired network picks up an IP but cannot seem to get beyond the local network. Prior to this install it worked just fine.
[14:42] <TommyThaGun> maybe they're trying to keep Plymouth secret
[14:42] <sealview> gotta restart 'n' get back to see if there's any change
[14:43] <TommyThaGun> speaking of Plymouth, I just removed a bunch of junk from my system, so I need make sure it doesn't crash on reboot.
[14:43] <lastelement0> hey everyone, i have 10.04 installed on my desktop fully updated. i can connect to the internet just fine, but when i try to download files, it will just stall. but i am still connected and able to use IM and browse the web. what could be the cause?
[14:43] <TommyThaGun> is it in Firefox?
[14:43] <TommyThaGun> wait, sorry, gotta go
[14:44] <sealview> no change with the latest updates
[14:46] <thiebaude> bug 552316
[14:47] <TommyThaGun> I had broken pipes that time
[14:48] <alvin> unknown command 'boot' (... long live the grub2 beta rescue documentation)
[14:49] <sealview> this is crazy
[14:49] <sealview> the flickering and shaking has slowed down
[14:50] <sealview> TommyThaGun: I think you're right about kicking the screen
[14:50] <sealview> the screen got scared :)
[14:54]  * alvin is off to the noc to reinstall
[14:54] <TommyThaGun> http://j.imagehost.org/0799/Screenshot_5.png    <------ Plymouth
[14:54] <TommyThaGun> that's all I've seen of it this far
[14:56] <TommyThaGun> sorry sealview, I don't know too much about troubleshooting video issues. All I can suggest is to apt-get update, clean, and then reinstall the drivers
[14:57] <LivenDie> TommyThaGun, yea, I've seen a lot of that too
[14:57] <sealview> TommyThaGun: Thanks anyway
[14:58] <Dimmuxx> that crash happens on one of my computers too
[14:58] <Dimmuxx> I usually don't see plymouth at all on it anyways
[14:59] <TommyThaGun> giganto bug report for plymouth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Yea i see the whole obsession with Plymouth a litle weird.. when my system boots so fast  i barely have time to get soda and sit down
[15:00] <Dimmuxx> yeah it should just be dropped imho
[15:00] <TommyThaGun> yeah, I'm with you Dr_Willis
[15:01] <TommyThaGun> although, I think this latest update slowed it down a bit
[15:01] <Dimmuxx> I always see it on my netbook but it experience the fsck lock
[15:01] <alvin> I started to get that 'MS Windows admin' feeling and decided against reinstall. Used the rescue on the install disk to remove the snapshot. Now, boot gets further.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> yea  - at least the fsck screen now looks nicer. :)
[15:01] <abuayyoub>  Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me. I just installed lucid a couple days ago and I seem to be having a problem with audio threw HDMI. not sure what the problem is, video works perfect but no sound at all over HDMI
[15:01] <alvin> You are lucky. I'm still trying to get it to boot.
[15:02] <Strife89> What file contains the listing for grub? I wish to edit the name of an entry.
[15:02] <Strife89> Windows Vista somehow got listed as "Windows Recovery Console."
[15:02]  * Strife89 just installed Lucid beta 2, mainly for testing.
[15:03] <TommyThaGun> Urgent Recall of PowerStrips and Extension Cords: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10184.html
[15:03] <rye> could somebody please visit http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/template/precreated and check whether you have all glyphs in the list properly rendered. It looks like some font problem to me
[15:04] <kklimonda> looks fine here
[15:04] <rye> hm... Terminus font breaks here...
[15:04] <rye> kklimonda, do you have Terminus installed?
[15:04] <abuayyoub> looks good to me
[15:05] <abuayyoub> Anyone else have this HDMI problem ?
[15:05] <abuayyoub> with Lucid?
[15:05] <alvin>  /facepalm The graphical stuff was taken out on ubuntu-server (hurray!), but when plymouth now says ([Something] went wrong... press S to skip, etc...) you now do not see a) what went wrong b) what your options are.
[15:05] <kklimonda> rye: surprisingly not :)
[15:07] <rye> alvin, we have an intel board with integrated video as a server, upon boot framebuffer switch scares the video board and _nothing_ is displayed...
[15:08] <abuayyoub> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me. I just installed lucid a couple days ago and I seem to be having a problem with audio threw HDMI. not sure what the problem is, video works perfect but no sound at all over HDMI
[15:10] <alvin> Whoa, sounds scary
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  and whats the video card/chipset?
[15:11] <gnomefreak> YAY! i lost X :)
[15:11] <underdev> hi, does anyone else have problems with notifications in lucid
[15:11] <underdev> ?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  not really - i see them all the time
[15:11] <underdev> rat
[15:11] <underdev> rats
[15:11]  * gnomefreak wouldnt know
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> I just did a update.  so it may be a new issue
[15:11] <alvin> Well, my suspicion is confirmed. I pressed 'M' when plymouth halted for a long time without giving an error, then typed 'mount -a' to mount the not-detected drives. Then I rebooted and everything went fine. A few reboots later, everything was still fine. Then I decided to be bold and create another snapshot. Bamf, again the grub rescue shell.
[15:11] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis I'm not sure. Is there a way to check which one I have?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  check lspci output
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  check the pc's manual ? :)
[15:12] <underdev> Dr_Willis: did you have to configure anything special to get notifications to work?
[15:12] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis lol you're supposed to read those things?> lol
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  nope. I see notifications from weechat, and firefox, and other thingsd all the time
[15:13] <underdev> Dr_Willis: oic- do you use the social apps that come with 10.04?  like qwibber and empathy?
[15:14] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis http://pastebin.com/qbBckLWF
[15:14] <sealview> Strangest thing, as I said my screen is flickering and shaking like the display freqvency is mised configured, but is doing the same if I hit Ctrl + Alt + F1, what is wrrong here?
[15:14] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis looks like ATI Radeon
[15:15] <sealview> I also have ATI Mobility radeon on my notebook
[15:16] <abuayyoub> sealview, I;m using a Sony Vaio, do you have problems with HDMI audio as well?
[15:16] <gnomefreak> isnt ATI still broke?
[15:16] <underdev> i'm good on ati
[15:16] <underdev> integrated sound + video
[15:16] <sealview> abuayyoub: no, right now I'm listening a radio station
[15:16] <underdev> running compiz like a chap
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> HDMI integerated is often a issue with many cards/xd it seems
[15:17] <underdev> or a champ, even
[15:17] <abuayyoub> strange
[15:17] <abuayyoub> man this really sucks. lol I dont wanna give up my 32"
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> run some normal audio cables.
[15:18] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis: My laptop dosent really have any ports to support that.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> it dosent have Headhpone outs?
[15:18] <abuayyoub> yea, it has headphone out.
[15:19] <abuayyoub> but that wouldnt work with my TV
[15:20] <sealview> I give up! I'll do a fresh install of 9.10
[15:21] <underdev> quitter :)
[15:21] <sealview> don't like it, but have no clue how to trobleshoot this issue
[15:21] <underdev> yeah, i understand
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. My tv's all have audio ins....
[15:21] <underdev> 9.10 is solid as a rock
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> The point of a beta test is to find  and report bugs..
[15:22] <underdev> rt
[15:22] <gnomefreak> start by filing a bug and/or look in ubuntuforums if no one here can help
[15:22] <alvin> No, it certainly isn't.
[15:22] <sealview> and it si anoing to not see well what you are "Desktoping"
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> I would not be suprised if this gets delayed a few days or more.  But we will see.
[15:22] <alvin> I'm hoping lucid will fix some of the critical issues karmic has
[15:23] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis: you have not come across this problem before? Dosen't seem like it should be a big issue. Then again I always seem to find some tiny unresolvable glitch when I use Linux. :(
[15:24] <underdev> unlike windows, which runs like a dream ;/
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> I have heard of a great many peoople that have issues with HDMI audio out.  I think the nvidia chipset has similer issues with specific  driver/cards
[15:24]  * Dr_Willis watches his windows drive defrag for 2 days....
[15:25] <genii> Luckily mine works OK
[15:25] <underdev> or a nightmare.. you know.. that's a dream too
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> bye all.. bbl
[15:27] <sealview> Karmik since Alpha3 was working great on my notebook compared with Lucid
[15:29] <sealview> I also need to work with Quickshot for Ubuntu-Manual but is impossible, so I will install a VM on 9.10 an use it from there
[15:29] <ubuntujenkins> sealview: quickshot will only work on lucid
[15:30] <sealview> yes, i know, but I'll install it on a virtual machine
[15:30] <ubuntujenkins> sealview: you need to be able to set the virtual machine to 1024x768, btw
[15:31] <sealview> ubuntujenkins: I have a lot of space left
[15:31] <z0rt> did someone just say windows runs like a dream!?
[15:32] <abuayyoub> z0rt lol
[15:32] <ubuntujenkins> sealview: fair enough
[15:33] <abuayyoub> I have to admit tho, Windows 7 is ALMOST decent
[15:33] <coc0nut> Nah, it's good.
[15:33] <abuayyoub> at least it was for the first 2 months I had it now it's nearly unresponsive.
[15:33] <abuayyoub> I do love the superbar tho
[15:33] <coc0nut> Apart from it being disgusting proprietary software, it's a very nice operating system.
[15:34] <abuayyoub> I agree. What happened? Microsoft actually started putting out decent things over the last year or two.
[15:34] <TommyThaGun> I'm interested to see the courier
[15:34] <z0rt> they did!?!?!?!
[15:34] <coc0nut> They started listening to people because they realised their profits weren't as monumental as before.
[15:35] <TommyThaGun> haven't you seen the commercials? those girls told them what to do.
[15:35] <abuayyoub> im dreaming about the Courier ipad can eat one.
[15:36] <coc0nut> No, I'm not in the US and I don't watch TV anyway. ^^
[15:36] <z0rt> is a courier an ipad not made by apple running some flavour of linux?
[15:37] <abuayyoub> Z0rt It's a duel screen "book" made by M$ and it looks amazing
[15:37] <Pici> !ot
[15:38] <z0rt> so it's an oversized ds lite running windows? can you root it?
[15:38] <coc0nut> Pici: When people start asking for help, I'm sure others will oblige.
[15:38] <abuayyoub> z0rt: haha yea thats basically it. lol
[15:39] <z0rt> this thing looks pretty
[15:40] <abuayyoub> z0rt: yea, the concept video is dreamy
[15:40] <z0rt> i'm watching that now
[15:40] <Pici> We'd prefer if people stayed on-topic in our channels, thats why we separate them.
[15:40] <abuayyoub> if they manage to release something half as cool I will be duly impressed.
[15:40] <z0rt> soz m8
[15:41] <abuayyoub> pici sorry,
[15:41] <Pici> Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about this there :)
[15:41] <coc0nut> >_>
[15:41] <abuayyoub> Pici: Can you help me with an audio over HDMI problem?
[15:41] <abuayyoub> no audio over hdmi running lucid
[15:41] <abuayyoub> big pain
[15:41] <coc0nut> Is there a bug on Launchpad?
[15:42] <Pici> abuayyoub: I haven't updated to lucid on the one computer that I do audio over hdmi on :/
[15:43] <abuayyoub> -bummer
[15:43] <coc0nut> What version is that one computer running?
[15:43] <Pici> Karmic, I'm using the fglrx driver.
[15:44] <coc0nut> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230385
[15:44] <coc0nut> In terms of seeing native support in Ubuntu, the HDMI audio patches are expected to be pulled into the 2.6.34 kernel, so you won't see working HDMI audio in Lucid/10.04 unless you run a backported 2.6.34 kernel with it (Ubuntu plans to offer backported kernels for Lucid).
[15:44] <abuayyoub> I have another problem. Is there a way to install Flash on AMD64?
[15:44] <coc0nut> abuayyoub: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[15:45] <abuayyoub> coc0nut you're awesome thank you
[15:45] <coc0nut> No problem at all.
[15:45] <h00k> abuayyoub: another method is to look for it in the Ubuntu Software Center
[15:45] <coc0nut> Oh yeah, that too.
[15:45] <coc0nut> Used to using the command line here. =/
[15:46] <h00k> coc0nut: me too
[15:46] <z0rt|work> me three
[15:46] <abuayyoub> h00k: yea I looked ther and it crashed every time
[15:47] <abuayyoub> then i got an error message saying Adobe didnt support amd64 :O
[15:47] <coc0nut> If you're looking for something and can't use Ubuntu Software Centre, try Synaptic
[15:47] <coc0nut> if that doesn't work, you can use: aptitude search
[15:49] <aphid_> I'm running 10.4b2 Netbook Remix on a Thinkpad X40.  One of the updates between  alpha 3 and beta 2 has killed the performance of the default "3d" launcher.  it's really slow and laggy just in the launcher.
[15:49] <Urda> Redirected from #ubuntu ... In YOH is 10.04 pretty stable to upgrade to now from 9.10 for a heavy user
[15:49] <coc0nut> Urda: It really depends
[15:49] <coc0nut> Some people find it unstable, others don't
[15:49] <coc0nut> For me, it's perfectly stable, but it's different for everyone =/
[15:49] <Urda> coc0nut: and I assume it is a one shot deal, once your up your up
[15:50] <coc0nut> I guess so
[15:50] <coc0nut> although I haven't upgraded, just installed fresh
[15:50] <coc0nut> The only Ubuntu upgrade I ever did was from Dapper to Edgy and that destroyed everything, so I said never again ;)
[15:51] <Urda> coc0nut: do you have a lot of packages installed?
[15:51] <coc0nut> On Lucid?
[15:51] <alvin> Urda: It depends on what software you are using. I'm currently testing what happens if you use lvm and it's a disaster. For most desktop users, I'd say that it is useable.
[15:52] <alvin> Of course, I'm using lvm on a desktop...
[15:52] <z0rt|work> lucid netbook remix is working quite well on my aspire one
[15:52] <coc0nut> Is your CPU fan working?
[15:53] <Urda> alvin: I'm dual booting Win 7 pro and Ubuntu 9.10 x64 through GRBU2
[15:53] <z0rt|work> sure is
[15:53] <coc0nut> ;;
[15:54] <alvin> The only issues I have with grub2 (beta) is that it doesn't find my root device from time to time until I reboot a few times. Let's not forget that grub2 is still in beta and not ready for production yet.
[15:54] <coc0nut> Isn't grub2 installed by default now?
[15:56] <alvin> It is, but I quote the developers: "GRUB 2 is the next generation of GNU GRUB. GRUB 2 is a complete rewrite and is at a developmental phase"
[15:56] <alvin> Notice the "developmental phase"
[15:56] <albertito> Hi! I've upgraded to lucid and hit a very annoying X-crashing bug (560899), which I reported, but has got no feedback. I tried to provide all the information I thought relevant. Is there anything I can do to get someone to look at it? I don't mind testing patches or things of the sort, but unfortunately starting to debug this from scratch would take me a huge amount of time
[15:56] <z0rt|work> grub2 is super awesome and will change the world
[15:56] <alvin> One day, yes. Right now, it doesn't find my root enough
[15:56] <z0rt|work> :[
[15:57] <Urda> alvin: Hmmm, I loved grub 2 when booting up :) Has handled my Windows 7 Pro x64 and Ubuntu 9.10 x64 just fine. I had Windows installed first, resized my drive, and installed 9.10 last November
[15:57] <Urda> I love*
[15:57] <ZykoticK9> bug #560899
[15:58] <coc0nut> albertito: I submitted a pretty severe bug report for a package last week and nobody has had a look at it yet. I don't think there's any way to speed up the process
[15:58] <alvin> grub-legacy could do that already. I'm just worried about bug 360378. I'm not sure if it still is in Lucid, but all my Lucid installs are very unstable because of lvm.
[16:00] <albertito> coc0nut: I don't mind if the maintainers have other things to do. I just don't want it to be my fault, that is, I prefer to send all the information they may need so they have it available when they have time to take a look at it. However, my main problem is that I don't know what that would be :S
[16:00] <alvin> bug 560899, right?
[16:00] <albertito> alvin: yes, that's the one
[16:02] <alvin> nothing in /var/log/kern.log ?
[16:02] <albertito> alvin: dmesg showed nothing, no
[16:02] <albertito> alvin: well, nothing suspicious or unusual, that is
[16:03] <alvin> Hmm, a user in my network here has seen kubuntu (kdm) crash yesterday in karmic. Just went back to kdm. There was, however, a segfault at the end of dmesg.
[16:03] <CT1> Hi. I have a wedding dvd I want to convert to avi/xvid/divx (and possibly edit)  Could someone point me to a howto or let me know what packages I need (with GUI utils preferably).  Please excuse me if #ubuntu+1 is not the right place to ask and let me know where I should look/ask
[16:04] <alvin> But you installed the debugging packages. Let's wait and see. Did you also enable apport in /etc/default/apport?
[16:04] <alvin> If you did, there might be some files in /var/crash
[16:05] <kklimonda> does 10.04 support upstream nvidia installer yet?
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> bjsnider, ^^^ if you're around can you answer above?
[16:06] <albertito> alvin: well, there's a problem with the symbols, as I mentioned in the last comment (also reported it, bug 562418). I didn't do anything about apport by hand, but service apport status reports it as "start/running", although /var/crash is empty
[16:07] <alvin> ouch
[16:07] <z0rt|work> :O
[16:13] <scott_ino2> anybody in here use transcode/dvdrip? Need people to follow up on a bug and report that it affects you too.
[16:13] <m0ar> I want help changing my splash (plymouth) theme, anyone?
[16:14] <CT1> scott_ino2: Did you see my previous chat? If so, are those packages what I need?
[16:14] <iconmefisto> m0ar: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[16:14] <iconmefisto> m0ar: then sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:14] <scott_ino2> CT1, ha well umm... perhaps i can help you
[16:15] <m0ar> iconmefisto: Where do I set the theme of preference then?
[16:15] <scott_ino2> CT1, what format is the original video?
[16:15] <iconmefisto> m0ar: the first command will let you choose from a list
[16:15] <CT1> scott_ino2: It's a dvd from the wedding photographer(plays in my dvd player, has vobs etc)
[16:15] <m0ar> iconmefisto: It says it has only one active link
[16:16] <iconmefisto> m0ar: have you installed any other themes?
[16:16] <scott_ino2> CT1, install k9copy, it can easily transcode to xvid,mkv h264 etc... using mencoder or ffmpeg
[16:16] <iconmefisto> m0ar: apt-cache search plymouth-theme
[16:16] <m0ar> iconmefisto: I've got this space-solar theme, which contains two .ogv files
[16:17] <scott_ino2> CT1, dvdrip has a little more control, however it uses transcode and there are issues witht he newest transcode package on 64 bit
[16:17] <iconmefisto> m0ar: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth   should give you a list of installed themes, and allows you to choose one
[16:17] <RambJoe> anyone on beta 2?
[16:17] <m0ar> iconmefisto: So, where should I put those files if I might want to use them? :)
[16:18] <RambJoe> is it worth upgrading to over beta 1
[16:19] <iconmefisto> m0ar: don't know. where did you get that theme?
[16:19] <m0ar> http://gitorious.org/oskude-plymouth-themes/space-sunrise
[16:19] <m0ar> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/look-at-ubuntu-lucid-plymouth-themes.html
[16:19] <arand> RambJoe: beta versions are not separate, if you have lucid you have whatever the current version is.
[16:19] <m0ar> iconmefisto: Oops, last one is wrong
[16:20] <RambJoe> ohh
[16:20] <m0ar> iconmefisto: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/ubuntu-lucid-plymouth-theme-idea-space.html
[16:20] <m0ar> there it is
[16:20] <RambJoe> does it auto update then
[16:20] <Pici> RambJoe: Assuming that you've been update/upgrading, of course.
[16:20] <arand> RambJoe: Provided you have applied updates normally.
[16:20] <Pici> !final
[16:20] <RambJoe> thanks :)
[16:20] <RambJoe> yeah the message icon in the rop right turning green is s new feature right?
[16:21] <m0ar> iconmefisto: I was wondering, if it's just an idea or if you actually can use .ogv files as bootsplash
[16:22] <iconmefisto> m0ar: those are videos showing what the animation looks like
[16:22] <topyli> hrm. upgrading epiphany still wants to remove epiphany-extension, which i'm not very keen to do :(
[16:22] <RambJoe> so when the final is released do i need to reinstall?
[16:22] <m0ar> iconmefisto: So you can't use .ogv's as splashes?  Dammit, since it's looks hot
[16:23] <arand> RambJoe: Not unless you want to, or that it has messed up in some way along the route
[16:24] <iconmefisto> m0ar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9118417#post9118417
[16:24] <RambJoe> ok thanks
[16:27] <z0rt|work> 200MB of updates since this morning, i love it! :)
[16:29] <dupondje> My system booted today and did an fsck, but it stopped @ 78% and did nothing anymore, had to reboot
[16:31] <avis> crimsun, might you be working on some alsa modules for the newer kernels ?
[16:31] <avis> just wondering.  no pressure
[16:34] <Volkodav> do you think I can pair these over bluetooth with mu ubuntu box ?  http://www.bluetechguy.com/proddetail.php?prod=B250XT&gclid=CPCIpIqQ7Z0CFcNx5Qod3SHsKg1
[16:43] <m0ar> iconmefisto: Oh, thanks a bunch
[17:06] <nerdy_kid> my virtual terminals are crooked
[17:06] <nerdy_kid> i can see the login text at the bottom right corner of my screen....
[17:06] <nerdy_kid> using NVIDIA 8600M with latest drivers (from nvidia)
[17:06] <jameswf> Anyone seen an issue with routing to 169.254.0.0/16 addresses... I had to add a route as it was not in my routing table
[17:14] <nerdy_kid_> i got it fixed by adding "vga=0x314" to my kernel boot params :)
[17:14] <yofel> vga=... is deprecated in grub2
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Yep. Check the /etc/default/grub file I think - it shows how to change the default res
[17:16] <yofel> not quite, it has instructions for GFXMODE, but that only sets the grub menu resolution, for the framebuffer you need to set 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX' as explained on the grub2 wiki page
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> i normally want to disable framebuffer on my consoles. :)
[17:19] <avis> anyway to enable kernel output in lieu of any splash ?
[17:20] <iconmefisto> avis: remove "splash" from kernel line in grub
[17:20] <avis> could you point to the file for me ?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> i always edit it to be 'nosplash' :) but i think that has the same affect.
[17:20] <avis> i dont do much grub editing
[17:21] <Dr_Willis>  edit the /etc/default/grub file I think for the default options
[17:21] <avis> thank you
[17:21] <iconmefisto> avis: and after that, sudo update-grub
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> see the !grub2 docs for more info.
[17:22] <avis> while i'm on the same topic, any way to make grub menu visible instead of holding shift ?
[17:22] <iconmefisto> avis: same file
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> see the !grub2 docs for more info.
[17:22] <Guest61577> does anyone know how to install new system sounds in lucid?
[17:22] <avis> !grub2
[17:22] <iconmefisto> avis: just remember sudo update-grub after editing it
[17:22] <avis> thanks
[17:24] <LivenDie>  is anyone else having problems using the restricted nvidia drivers in Lucid?
[17:24] <agronholm> not me
[17:25] <avis> will envyng-gtk be brought into the repo at some point ?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> LivenDie:  not that ive seen. I updated yesterday, itw working.. updated today.. not rebooted yet.
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> rebooting other nvidia box now.
[17:26] <LivenDie> I'm going to try it again.  It was just showing all 3 versions as active in the hardware drivers app
[17:26] <LivenDie> ill reboot and be back
[17:26] <bbordwell> avis, feature freeze was back in February so no not for lucid
[17:26] <avis> wiki.ubuntu.com wont resolve for me, and i've tried many times
[17:26] <avis> thanks bbordwell
[17:26] <Pici> avis: Its having issues today.
[17:27] <avis> i'll figure it out some other day
[17:27] <Guest61577> I am wondering how to install new sounds for my lucid
[17:27] <bbordwell> avis, When they start development on Maverick file a packaging request bug on launchpad for the program you want packaged
[17:27] <avis> i'm sure if i wont somebody else will
[17:28] <bbordwell> Guest61577, new sounds? like the login sound?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> weird. my default window manager for this user.. is not getting rembered. :)
[17:29] <Guest61577> yes I downloaded a pack of sounds from gnome-look.org, but there are no instructions on how to install them
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> updated rebooted.. nvidia drivers working on my Nvidia 5500 box.
[17:29] <bbordwell> Guest61577, give me a minute i will give it a look
[17:29] <Guest61577> okay thank you
[17:30] <cleifer> anybody know how i can go back from the 2.6.5 python that comes with lucid to 2.6.2 ?
[17:30] <Guest61577> here is the link of the specific sound pack that I am talking about http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44126
[17:31] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay i think i figured it out.
[17:31] <Guest61577> ok
[17:31] <bbordwell> Guest61577, the thing you downloaded is a .tar right?
[17:32] <Guest61577> its a .tar.gz
[17:32] <LivenDie> well...that didn't work.  It was working before when I installed the drivers off of nvidia's site but the hardware drivers supplied by Ubuntu don't work.
[17:32] <Guest61577> when you open it, its another file, and then within that other file is a bunch of .mp3 s
[17:32] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay open a terminal and type this comand "gksu nautilus"
[17:33] <Darkaura> I can boot up the Live cd of Lucid Lynx beta 2, but when I install and reset it freezes at the ubuntu splash screen. I've tried looking it up but I have'nt been able to find anything. Are there any ideas on what I could do to fix it?
[17:33] <avis> for some reason i get no splash removing that, but no text output either.  and the grub2 ubuntu wiki is down
[17:33] <om26er> I have been facing a problem for 7days and now I have found that its compiz. but now its too late so Lucid with compiz for me?
[17:33] <Guest61577> okay done
[17:33] <NinoScript> I want to mount a partition but changing the uid/gid, I know my filesystem supports uid=n gid=n in mount, I just don't know how to put those options :(  ———  mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/mac  <— where do I put those options? the file system is HFS+ (hfsplus)
[17:34] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay cut and paste the extracted tar into /usr/share/sounds
[17:34]  * om26er thinks compiz is moving him to mutter sooner than he thought.
[17:35] <Pici> om26er: It depends what the compiz issue is
[17:35] <Oxymoron> Does somebody know if there is any server or PHP "support" talking channel anywhere on freenode? :)
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/a/blcmdl8_mountx.htm
[17:36] <avis> Oxymoron, probably, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:36] <Oxymoron> I want to ask regarding a bug with newline character in PHP 5.3.2
[17:36] <avis> xchat also has a list filter
[17:36] <Guest61577> the sounds in the /usr/share/sounds end in ogg though is that going to matter?
[17:36] <om26er> after a usage of 40-50 minutes my harddrive light becomes mad so I have to kill X and then login again. This happens once in an hour
[17:36] <Dr_Willis>  -o (or was it -O) option1, option2, iption3
[17:36] <CT1> Very happy with the quality of ubuntu and the community support.  One thing though.  I wan't to drag-n-drop with right ("wrong") click and have an option to move/copy etc...  is there a wish-list? Is ubuntu the place to ask for this feature? is it a gnome "limitation" or is it nautilus?
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> CT1:  for gnome? use the alt, shift, and ctrl keys as you drag/drop
[17:37] <bbordwell> Guest61577, should not as long as you have the codecs installed to play mp3 fiels
[17:37] <bbordwell> files
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> CT1:  check the gnome docs/help guides for other not so obvious features. and the new ubuntu manual for 10.04
[17:37] <CT1> Dr_Willis: Wow. As I said, great community support! Just what I wanted.  Many thanks
[17:38] <Guest61577> i have codecs but then how do I make my system play those sounds instead of the ubuntu sounds?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> CT1:   i discovered that one day while skimming the gnome docs. :)  (yes i was bored)
[17:38] <struts> While trying to fix dead keys not working, I screwed up (not sure how). Is it possible to restore all keyboard conf files to their state just after a fresh install?
[17:38] <Darkaura> I can boot up the Live cd of Lucid Lynx beta 2, but when I install and reset it freezes at the ubuntu splash screen. I've tried looking it up but I have'nt been able to find anything. Are there any ideas on what I could do to fix it?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> struts:  proberly can. but it would depend on what files you altereed
[17:39] <cleifer> anybody able to help me go from the default 2.6.5 python in lucid to 2.6.2 from karmic ?
[17:39] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay now go to system>preferences>sound
[17:39] <bbordwell> Guest61577, then select your new sound theme
[17:39]  * om26er tried xorg edgers
[17:40] <struts> Dr_Willis: That would be a good question. I have a feeling "sudo im-switch -s default" did some damage.
[17:40] <Guest61577> under the sound theme I only have ubuntu and then no sounds
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> struts:  ive never used that command. so no idea
[17:40] <bbordwell> Guest61577, hmm it worked for me when i just did it. can you give me the link to the theme you downloaded
[17:41] <struts> Dr_Willis: Nevertheless, restoring conf files is not the important thing; I need a fresh start -- but don't want to reformat.
[17:41] <Guest61577> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44126
[17:41] <claptrap> So, searching for certain words on any search engine in any browser crashes that browser: The words so far are "weather", "clock" and one other one that I don't remember just now.
[17:43] <bbordwell> Guest61577, the one i downloaded had a file called index.theme I think that you need that
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  exactly how are you searching? going to google.com? or useing the searh box in the browser top right?
[17:43] <claptrap> claptrap: Both, and many, many more.
[17:43] <Guest61577> so then the one that I donwloaded wont work then?  I need to find one that says index.theme?
[17:43] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: Both, and many, many more.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  i cant repeate the problem here.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  make a nes user. see if it affects them
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> a New user :0
[17:45] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: Guess I can try that a bit later on. Can't log out just now, though.
[17:45] <bbordwell> Guest61577, you need to find one that has a file called index.theme or something similar. I am sure you can make that theme work but I do not know how right now, I will look and see though
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> It would be very weird if it affects several different browsers
[17:45] <Guest61577> okay thank you
[17:45] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: It does affect different browsers.
[17:46] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: So far it affects Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Seamonkey.
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> I would be tempted to say test a live cd.. and see if it  there
[17:46] <bbordwell> Guest61577, I am not seeing a way to change each sound individually which you would have to do to use those sounds. I would try and find another theme that will work.
[17:47] <Guest61577> okay thank you
[17:48] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: As mentioned, too, it's not just Google. I've tried Bing, Yahoo and some random no-name search engine.
[17:48] <AceKing> Does anyone know if Magicjack is going to work in 10.04?
[17:50] <cleifer> anybody able to help me go from the default 2.6.5 python in lucid to 2.6.2 from karmic ?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  run  the browsers from terminal,m check for  error messages. I cant imagine what would be crashing them all
[17:50] <bbordwell> cleifer, I can i think
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  i would be very suprised if Wine suddendly started working with magicjack
[17:50] <avis> ubuntuone wouldn't happen to have a cross platform client would it ?  i'm using dropbox
[17:50] <JMFTheVCI> Claptrap: Not seeing this on my system either. (Chromium & Google or Bing)
[17:51] <claptrap> I figure it's something I must have installed, but I can't figure out what it would be. My main suspects were AWN and Gnome-do, but I've closed both to no avail.
[17:52] <bbordwell> cleifer, it looks like python in karmic is 2.6.4
[17:52] <cleifer> hehe
[17:52] <cleifer> i guess i mean jaunty
[17:52] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: Termninal returned nada; it's not even acting like it's closed. And in fact, System Monitor shows Seamonkey sleeping in the processes.
[17:53] <cleifer> bbordwell, i have been leery to try much since so much in ubuntu depends on python - i could of course compile the source for 2.6.2 and just use that i guess, but wondered if i could do it w/apt
[17:53] <bbordwell> cleifer, packages.ubuntu.com
[17:54] <cleifer> bbordwell, yah i'm aware of that site
[17:55] <bbordwell> cleifer, well basicly you can go there and download the .deb files from jaunty and as long as you can get all the dependencies right you can downgrade
[17:55] <cleifer> bbordwell, word
[17:55] <cleifer> thank you sir
[17:55] <TommyThaGun> anyone used bootchart before?
[17:56] <bbordwell> cleifer, python might not be possible or very difficult though.
[17:56] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, once a while ago
[17:56] <TommyThaGun> when you install it, do you just have to reboot your comp for it to run?
[17:56] <cleifer> yeah, i may just compile it and symlink it where i need it
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ive had differnt vbersions of python befor.. but it was like 2.5 and 2.6  not 2.6.x  and 2.6.x+1
[17:57] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, I think so, it stores an image file somewhere i can not remember where though, look at that image and you can see the boot proccess
[17:57] <TommyThaGun> sweet
[17:57] <TommyThaGun> brb then
[17:57] <Pici> TommyThaGun: Yes. It sticks the boot charts into /var/log/bootchart/
[17:57] <AceKing> Thanks, Dr_Willis. I seen there was a way to use Virtualbox running XP, but you have to do something to get USB ports to be seen only by Windows
[17:57] <bbordwell> cleifer, yes you will have to uninstall current versions of python before you can install the ones you are downloading
[17:58] <cleifer> yeah, screw it, i'll build it
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  the VBOX from the vbox homepage can use USB stuff. not the one in the repos.
[17:58] <cleifer> thanks for the help bbordwell !
[17:58] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, /var/log/bootchart
[17:58] <AceKing> Dr_Willis, Thanks! I didn't know that
[17:58] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, that is where it will be
[17:58] <lunks> Hi, I just noticed Ubuntu has added support for iPhone/iPod Touch on Rythmbox, is it correct?
[18:00] <thehumanelement> Evince keeps opening up small, not maximised how I left it
[18:00] <thehumanelement> also it forgets to close the sidebar which I don't ever use and never want to see again
[18:00] <mc44> lunks: it depends what you mean by "support"
[18:00] <thehumanelement> it only remembers for particular files
[18:00] <thehumanelement> PDF files
[18:00] <lunks> mc44, copy and write music files
[18:01] <mc44> lunks: copy from yes, write no
[18:01] <lunks> mc44, oh it's just that it allows me to copy, but doesn't show up on my iPod
[18:03] <thehumanelement> anyone?
[18:03] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, I do not see a way to change it
[18:04] <thehumanelement> well it didn't do that in 9.10
[18:04] <thehumanelement> and now every time I start Evince it's small and in the top left corner, not maximised
[18:04] <thehumanelement> pretty ridiculous really
[18:04] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/544639
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> You could make compiz force its size.
[18:06] <thehumanelement> so, it will be fixed at some point?
[18:06] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, that is the idea
[18:06] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, not everything gets fixed though
[18:06] <thehumanelement> cool, also the DVD playback has all gone to shit
[18:07] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, I thought they got it working but i have not tried
[18:07] <thehumanelement> I realised this when I switched to an older, slower computer with 9.04 on it, and it worked really really well with the same disc
[18:07] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, what is the problem you are having with them?
[18:07] <thehumanelement> random freezing, menus not working, stuff like that
[18:07] <thehumanelement> also, tearing
[18:08] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, hmm it is working fine for me
[18:08] <thehumanelement> since 10.04, the graphics driver is better somehow, in that now all the fancy eye-candy crap works on my ThinkPad with an R100 based Radeon in it
[18:08] <thehumanelement> now this window is just jumping from side to side
[18:08] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, have you tried VLC?
[18:08] <thehumanelement> as I type
[18:08] <thehumanelement> yeah, I tried VLC, it wasn't much better
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> been using vlc as my main player for the last 3 releases.  - not really had any issues
[18:09] <TommyThaGun_> 33.75 seconds: http://j.imagehost.org/view/0269/spidersense-lucid-20100414-1 I suppose I'm happy with that.
[18:10] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, maybe it is the disk drive, vlc uses an entirely different system to play DVDs so if you have having problems with it on both it sounds like a hardware problem
[18:10] <thehumanelement> anyway, since DRI or whatever works properly on my graphics card, the DVD playback comes with a weird regular step pattern tearing across the video
[18:10] <thehumanelement> no, VLC sucks in a different way
[18:10] <bbordwell> lol
[18:10] <z0rt|work> haha
[18:10] <thehumanelement> now I can't make this window less wide to stop it jumping around
[18:10] <thehumanelement> ugh, got it
[18:10] <JEEBsv> VLC is bad with H.264 seeking at least
[18:11] <JEEBsv> But DVDs shouldn't have that
[18:11] <thehumanelement> yeah, VLC was having DVD navigation problems but it was slightly different
[18:11] <thehumanelement> okay, now this Empathy window is getting wider
[18:11] <thehumanelement> as I type
[18:11] <thehumanelement> WTF
[18:11] <z0rt|work> sky is falling
[18:11] <z0rt|work> run you fool!
[18:11] <JEEBsv> But yeah, VLC is overall quite wtf >_> They should've just kept on the streaming side, that's something VLC can do at least semi-well
[18:12] <thehumanelement> I like that Movie Player generally works for everything, that's a good start
[18:12] <thehumanelement> Also, 10.04 broke resume from suspend and hibernate
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> cant say that ive ever had any issues with vlc.  I use it all the time
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> I cant stand movieplayer
[18:13] <LinuxGuy2009> totem-xine aint bad
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> You dont hear much about xine these days,
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> I have been playing with moovidia, xbmc, and enna,
[18:13] <JEEBsv> mplayer is currently pretty much the only one that works correctly with most stuff... too bad the mplayer project is full of hurr durr politics
[18:14] <JEEBsv> and yeah, mplayer has no GUI :3
[18:14] <JEEBsv> (it IIRC still has in the svn repo, but as far as I remember no-one ever wanted to keep it up-to-date)
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> I used to use mplayer all the time. basically switched to vlc now.
[18:14] <avis> i've no idea what new apps have come to have been known.  i'm just an old timer who hasn't paid much attention to #ubuntu just because of the sheer new user madness on it.  i feel bad though, because many many years ago, a group of people taught me what i knew.  and those are the basic skills that i've retained to this day.
[18:14] <Lazy> JEEBsv: gnome-mplayer pretty decent gui
[18:14] <thehumanelement> I used to use mplayer, back in the Slackware days, but it's pretty unusable for day-to-day stuff
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> Geexbox (now  comming out with a new name) i recall still uses mplayer.
[18:15] <JEEBsv> Well, yeah -- Ubuntu loves to keep VLC up to date while mplayer is q_q old
[18:15] <JEEBsv> Also, it doesn't help that uau was forced to make his own fork()
[18:15] <z0rt|work> vlc has worked fine for me with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:15] <JEEBsv> (which has the original working ffmpeg-mt and many matroska etc. fixes)
[18:15] <bjsnider> vlc is not up to date
[18:15] <patdk-wk> I wish I could do a playlist in vlc
[18:15] <JEEBsv> well, it's MORE up to date than mplayer I'd say
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Vlc can do playlists.
[18:15] <JEEBsv> At least the last I saw
[18:15] <bjsnider> wrong
[18:16] <JEEBsv> oh?
[18:16] <JEEBsv> Someone actually pays attention to mplayer?
[18:16] <thehumanelement> why would you want a playlist of a video?
[18:16] <avis> Dr_Willis, is geexbox something like elisa, or now moovida that takes full control of your screen ?
[18:16]  * JEEBsv checks the revision of mplayer package
[18:16] <z0rt|work> several videos, like a season of a television show etc
[18:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Doesnt VLC just use all the gstreamer stuff like all the other media players?
[18:16] <bjsnider> the code for both is at least a year old
[18:16] <patdk-wk> thehumanelement, why wouldn't you?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> Geexbox is a mini distrto to turn a pc into a media center.
[18:16] <avis> got ya
[18:16] <bjsnider> so is the ffmpeg code
[18:16] <JEEBsv> bjsnider: yeah, I know of the ffmpeg at least
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> geexbox has grown some and expaneded.. it has the 'enna' project that is like moovidia and xbmc.
[18:17] <thehumanelement> I guess you could drag and drop some ripped episodes in
[18:17] <bjsnider> LinuxGuy2009, vlc and mpayer use external ffmpeg
[18:17] <JEEBsv> Didn't know that both VLC and mplayer were in the same box >_>
[18:17] <thehumanelement> but, management, saving, loading, not really that important
[18:17] <LinuxGuy2009> oh
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> It has some neat features compared to moovidia, and xbmc. but missing some that those have as well
[18:17] <patdk-wk> thehumanelement, could, IF I had a mouse :)
[18:17] <avis> Dr_Willis, would you say its the favored media center choice ?
[18:17] <JEEBsv> Although I guess newer revisions wouldn't build with old ffmpeg
[18:17] <thehumanelement> you don't have a mouse?
[18:17] <patdk-wk> I want a playlist, so when I click on the playlist file, it plays the whole seq of videos in order
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> avis:  depends on what you like. I rarely use the mediacenter stuff. but it was nice  - it even let you get to online comicbooks :)
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> I think that was enna.. i tried so many i forget what had what features
[18:18] <JEEBsv> holy shi- bjsnider you sure were right -- 20090426
[18:18] <patdk-wk> thehumanelement, no mouse, no keyboard, no harddrive :)
[18:18] <JEEBsv> that's _quite_ bad considering that ffmpeg's H.264 decoding f.ex. got nicely faster in december-january or so
[18:18] <avis> that one 4 letter group of comics guys are the ones i favor the most starts with an x or o  i can't remember, they're great tho
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Ive made and saved playists in vlc.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> or i drag/drop or rigt click and say opwn with.. vlc.. and it plays all the vids in the dir
[18:19] <thehumanelement> brb
[18:19] <patdk-wk> Dr_Willis, I'm all commandline
[18:19] <thehumanelement> going to try the suspend/resume thingy
[18:19] <bjsnider> JEEBsv, lts is a conservative release
[18:19] <JEEBsv> Even so... o_O
[18:19] <bjsnider> i have updated packages in a ppa
[18:19] <JEEBsv> Oh
[18:19] <avis> i'm using my fathers box for itunes and someday i'll get back to buying my itunes i'm just too busy these days
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Night all..
[18:20] <JEEBsv> Have you any interest in uau's mplayer? Which has ffmpeg-mt and matroska fixes?
[18:20] <avis> when i checked out the ubuntu store, its selection was limited
[18:20] <avis> it was some time ago
[18:20] <LinuxGuy2009> avis: You pay for lossy music formats?
[18:20] <bjsnider> JEEBsv, uau?
[18:20] <avis> LinuxGuy2009, i convert them to mp3
[18:20] <JEEBsv> one of the mplayer devs who got kicked out at some point for not reverting a broken change ASAP and trying to fix his shit instead
[18:20] <JEEBsv> or something like that
[18:20] <JEEBsv> lolpolitics
[18:20] <z0rt|work> i love my zune it's so deliciously non-apple
[18:20] <z0rt|work> lolitics
[18:21] <avis> LinuxGuy2009, i may transfer them to my ubuntu box in which banshee will convert them before loading to my clip+
[18:21] <LinuxGuy2009> oh but so delicously M$? hehe that better?
[18:21] <JEEBsv> too bad most of his stuff actually works, and his branch actually is the only one that supports multiple segments and ordered chapters on linux
[18:21] <z0rt|work> hey it's DRM-free!
[18:21] <bjsnider> in matroska files?
[18:21] <avis> i didn't hope to start an argument but i have found the consistancy of rips at itunes to sound good compared to amazonmp3.com though sometimes i'll pick the best sounding one.  i also use emusic on ubuntu
[18:22] <JEEBsv> bjsnider: yeah
[18:22] <JEEBsv> http://repo.or.cz/w/mplayer-build.git
[18:22] <bjsnider> he's the git guy
[18:22] <LinuxGuy2009> I stick to buying real CDs. I refuse to pay for lossy formats.
[18:22] <JEEBsv> yah
[18:22] <bjsnider> no, i didn't use his repo
[18:22] <patdk-wk> real cd's are lossy :( only 16bits
[18:22] <JEEBsv> oh well
[18:22] <avis> LinuxGuy2009, i don't have the room, and my preference is usually a song vs an entire album
[18:22] <bjsnider> if his changes have merit, i'm sure they'll be merged
[18:22] <patdk-wk> and only 44.1khz :(
[18:22] <m3wolf__> vinyl is the way to go, yay analog
[18:23] <JEEBsv> They have merit, but the mplayer dev community is a bit :/
[18:23] <JEEBsv> And well, not many people actually use matroska fully yet
[18:23]  * patdk-wk hates matroska
[18:23] <LinuxGuy2009> patdk-wk: You must have super hearing, most mortals cant hear freq. past 20Khz.
[18:23] <JEEBsv> Why? It's open source and all
[18:23] <JEEBsv> not like nut is anywhere yet
[18:24] <JEEBsv> And ogg is uhh
[18:24] <patdk-wk> LinuxGuy2009, heh? and two samples to make a 20khz tone is not good
[18:24] <JEEBsv> ogg is ogg
[18:24] <z0rt|work> LinuxGuy2009: have you checked out flac
[18:24] <patdk-wk> horrible square wave :(
[18:24] <avis> i had given my best friend all my vinyl next thing i know he asks me if i'd like them back, i said, on second though i guess i would.  i never heard from him again :)  i find that funny
[18:24] <vish> anyone noticed memory leaks when running flash?
[18:24] <vish> flash video..
[18:24] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah FLAC rules. Thats what I rip my CDs to for PC listening.
[18:24] <JEEBsv> And then the mp4 container has stupid limitations on what you can put there >_>
[18:25] <nemo> LinuxGuy2009: 20 isn't unusual for a kid
[18:25] <bjsnider> LinuxGuy2009, use rubyripper
[18:25] <patdk-wk> 96khz at 24bits is ok
[18:25] <patdk-wk> my friend is doing a crapload of stuff in 32bit though
[18:25] <LinuxGuy2009> Average human ears go from 20hz to 20Khz. Not much higher.
[18:25] <avis> i use the highest encoding vbr for mp3's because i've only got 750gb hard drive here, and flacs tend to be very large.  i only have 750gb
[18:25] <LinuxGuy2009> more than 44.1 is pretty useless
[18:26] <avis> my clip+ will play them though
[18:26] <JEEBsv> So basically currently MKV is 'good enough' for video containment, whatever you're doing. >_>
[18:27] <nemo> LinuxGuy2009: people can also pick up conflicting harmonics, might be hearing that?
[18:28] <LinuxGuy2009> Until you do double blind listening test, you can speculate all day long.
[18:28] <nemo> heh
[18:28] <nemo> don't forget 2 sets of equipment :-p
[18:28] <LinuxGuy2009> I like AAC over MP3 as well.
[18:29] <LinuxGuy2009> but FLAC whenever possible
[18:29] <avis> banshee will convert them on the fly, should your media player not support say, AAC
[18:29] <nemo> LinuxGuy2009: you've seen those tests where audio snobs were unable to distinguish between 128VBR mp3 and flac? :)
[18:30] <LinuxGuy2009> nemo: Yeah the results for the double blinds are usually shocking to people who think they have super hearing.
[18:30] <avis> nemo, thats very similar to blind taste tests of wine drinkers.  your average $14 bottle of wine is no better than the one that cost $100 or more
[18:30] <nemo> LinuxGuy2009: of course flac is just practical
[18:31] <nemo> you never know when you'll need, say, mp3 for your car
[18:31] <nemo> or aac for your iphone
[18:31] <nemo> or whatever
[18:31] <LinuxGuy2009> Thats why I even have a FLAC master library. For later conversion to lossy without ripping all my CDs all over again.
[18:32] <avis> you all have mad storage :)  i really just buy song by song most albums i know i want i have
[18:32] <CT1> Hello all.  Is there a way to (preferably using audacity) record "what I hear"? be that a youtube video, game music in wine or just system sounds?  Please point me in the right direction of a how-to or aid me step-by-step.
[18:32] <nemo> avis: anyone paying $100 for a bottle of wine is either a sucker, at a strip club or rich and doing it to impress
[18:33] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: YouTube videos are stored as FLV in /tmp folder.
[18:33] <avis> nemo, my mom does it every year and gives it to our judge
[18:33] <nemo> avis: ah. forgot bribes
[18:33] <nemo> silly me
[18:33] <avis> nemo, we're not looking for bribes.  thats just my mom doing what she wants
[18:34] <nemo> avis: many places judges can't accept gifts over XX, usually 20
[18:34] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: Nice to know, but I want to record the sound my speakers play, keeping youtube videos is another matter.
[18:34] <avis> trust me you bribe a judge he'll come down much harder on you if you tried to win them over with a christmas gift
[18:34] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Well you asked.
[18:34] <z0rt|work> have you ever had 100 dollar wine? it's brilliant
[18:34] <nemo> avis: you can just change the audio sink to be a file in many sound systems
[18:35] <nemo> otherwise, if you want it to come out of the speaker first, you could use a mic
[18:35] <avis> my mother is a elderly woman.  she is not a criminal
[18:35] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: No ieda about software land but buy a 1/8splitter. Run one end to speakers, the other end to line in.
[18:35] <nemo> er. that was to CT1 I guess.
[18:35] <nemo> oh. right. I had one of those...
[18:35] <look> avis: i just want you to know that you lost the game
[18:35] <look> The game
[18:36] <nemo> lil' short line to connect line in and out
[18:36] <LinuxGuy2009> right
[18:36] <nemo> usually I just strip it out of the file or dump the stream
[18:36] <nemo> just easier
[18:36] <nemo> better quality too
[18:36] <avis> sorry for being off topic i was speaking in response from flac to another format, is that the game you refer to look ?
[18:37] <LinuxGuy2009> dump the stream? meaning?
[18:37] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: It's also handy to know, and no doubt I'd ask at a later date about that, But as for recording... I think the window equivalent is "stereo mix" is it possible in ubuntu?
[18:38] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: We would have said that if it were as simple.
[18:38] <lunks> Great, tried using gtkpod and all it did was erase all my album arts. :~
[18:38] <LinuxGuy2009> lunksz: erase everythingon you ipod and allow gtkpod to create the database.
[18:39] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: Guess it's not simple then :(  Could you point me to some line of googling that may help (if it's even possible in ubuntu)
[18:39] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: I use it all the time and works great.
[18:39] <OldSam> hi, I recently installed 10.04-beta2 server edition (with software-raid1) and now I faced a strange problem during boot (it worked before) : ...services like bind, cupsd and dhcpd aren't started anymore, though they're still listed as S..servicename under /etc/rc2.d/ - anyway, networking, pppd and sshd are still running...  I did not found an explanation for this so far, any ideas?
[18:39] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Sure google all you want. Keep in mind most of us have wanted this for a long time.
[18:39] <arand_> CT1: It's rather simple: http://theaikenfamily.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=31
[18:40] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, if it creates the database, will everything i.e. album art goes right?
[18:40] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: Yeah if your files are tagged when you drop em back in yeah. They show fine.
[18:40] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: So it's not a matter of "it's not simple, but doable" rather "Re-write the kernel and you'll be fine?"
[18:40] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks:EasyTage-AAC is nice for tagging BTW.
[18:41]  * arand_ rembers a nicer guide for it, but can't find it now
[18:41] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Its not easy from what I have found.
[18:41] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, all my files are correctly tagged, but I don't think I'll reupload 2k files considering how gtkpod is slow. :/
[18:41] <CT1> arand_: I'll look that through.  Thanks
[18:41] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Trip to radio shack for a 1/8" stero splitter and little 1/8 wire from splitter to line inis what I would do.
[18:42] <arand_> LinuxGuy2009: It is actually very easy ^
[18:42] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: Gtkpod isnt any slower than anything else ive used.
[18:42] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: Thankd for the advice, I'm still not put off though.  I'll try the software approach for now. (very poor)
[18:42] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Good luck.
[18:42] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, it's definitely slower than iTunes.
[18:43] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: dont use it then.
[18:44] <lunks> I'll not be using it, I'm just stating 'beware, album arts may be gone if you use gtkpod'
[18:44] <avis> i'm wondering how good the battery life in my clip+ is holding up i'm using my phones charge now that seems to have the same input hoping for better results
[18:44] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: not true. gtkpod does not remove tags.
[18:45] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, please, explain to me why just hitting 'save' on it made my album arts gone.
[18:45] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: Thanks.  I'll update you with PM if I accomplish the task
[18:46] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: If you want to use gtkpod the erase everything on it. Allow gtkpod to create thedatabase. If you dont want to then dont.
[18:46] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Thanks id like that!
[18:47] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, you're saying 'if you get an already populated iPod on gtkpod, it may mess your tags up.'
[18:47] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: I use gtkpod all the time. Tags work fine. I already said that.
[18:47] <z0rt|work> can you sync an iPad with lucid?
[18:48] <arand_> LinuxGuy2009: Did you look at the link? pavucontrol can do the stereo mix recording in software as simple as pie...
[18:48] <LinuxGuy2009> arand_: Ill take a look now.Thanks.
[18:49] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, it's not that it works for you makes it work for everyone, is it?
[18:50] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: Please dont waste your time. Linux isnt for you obviously.
[18:50] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, I'm not sure I follow.
[18:50] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: Yeah I noticed
[18:51] <joaopinto> LinuxGuy2009, please be respectful
[18:51] <arand_> lunks: Probably, no one knows why it does it, do report a bug about.
[18:51] <claptrap> So, searching for certain words on any search engine in any browser crashes that browser: The words so far are "weather", "clock" and one other one that I don't remember just now.
[18:51] <joaopinto> lunks, you probably hit some bug , assuming it was not an user action ;)
[18:51] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: It works!!! Spotify under wine is now recording in audacity. arand was right!
[18:51] <lunks> LinuxGuy2009, stop trolling around
[18:52] <LinuxGuy2009> lunks: I already gave you advice to make it work. If you dont like it dont use it.
[18:52] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: care for PM instructions as to what I drunkenly did?
[18:52] <lunks> joaopinto, will sure do this.
[18:52] <LinuxGuy2009> CT1: Did you just follow that link and followed the directions?
[18:53] <CT1> LinuxGuy2009: Pretty much.  I had some packages installed beforehand from other guides, but never managed to get it working
[18:54] <avis> someone tell neidorlee that if i don't help him that when i die something will happen i have asked him to seek mental health assistance
[18:54] <avis> like an op please
[18:54] <neidorlee> i didnt force you to help me
[18:55] <neidorlee> you PM'd me
[18:55] <avis> i never attempted to help you
[18:55] <jpds> avis, neidorlee: Please, not here.
[18:55] <avis> yes sir
[18:55] <Darkaura> okay I downloaded the latest lucid amd64x iso, and my processor is a amd64 processor. anyway I get everything installed and before it freezes, I see a login prompt. Then it goes to the ubuntu splash screen and freezes, any thoughts?
[18:55] <avis> jpds, and thank you
[18:58] <arand_> Darkaura: May be a plymouth/kms issue, try booting with kernel option nomodeset
[18:58] <Darkaura> okay I don't even get a grub, or do you mean the livecd
[18:59] <LinuxGuy2009> Is flash for 64bit still in beta or whatever? Or is there a finished 64bit version now?
[18:59] <jpds> LinuxGuy2009: Beta.
[18:59] <LinuxGuy2009> Im still running 32bit on my quad core. Just waiting for 64bit flash.
[19:00] <agronholm> why wait
[19:00]  * agronholm runs 64 bit flash
[19:00] <LinuxGuy2009> does the beta flash work ok?
[19:00]  * blendmaster1024 has a 32bit proc :(
[19:00] <agronholm> unless you want to input international characters, sure
[19:01] <agronholm> not sure it works on the 32 bit version either
[19:01] <LinuxGuy2009> input internation characters? you lost me.
[19:02] <Darkaura> that was weird it just booted up
[19:02] <arand_> LinuxGuy2009: Far better than the 32 wrapper on 64, seems to be the general concesus
[19:03] <LinuxGuy2009> I have 2GB of system ram. Would 64bit benefit me very much at all?
[19:03] <patdk-wk> if you want to use harddrives >2tb :)
[19:04] <joaopinto> depends on what you use, in regular desktop usage you will not feel any difference
[19:04] <avis> it would have to be a little over 3 i believe LinuxGuy2009 but you can get 3.2 whatever gb limit to be seen by using a pae kernel
[19:04] <arand_> LinuxGuy2009: Depends, as a rule of thumb, no, maybe if you're doing heavy encoding work...
[19:04] <avis> though i have heard speed is most optimal in the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[19:04] <avis> in comparison to the pae choice for 32 bit users
[19:05] <atrus> patdk-wk: er, that doesn't make any sense at all.
[19:05] <atrus> or
[19:05] <LinuxGuy2009> Well as far as encoding, what about speed for handbrake DVD rips to x264?
[19:05] <patdk-wk> atrus, why?
[19:05] <atrus> oh, tb... hmm. i don't actually know :) i read that as gb.
[19:06] <atrus> patdk-wk: i've never heard of 64-bit mode having anything to do with disk size though. any reference for such a thing?
[19:06] <patdk-wk> heh?
[19:07] <patdk-wk> you never did?
[19:07] <patdk-wk> and your in here?
[19:07] <atrus> patdk-wk: pardon?
[19:07] <Urda> Question: Anybody upgrade from 9.10 to a 10.04 Beta 2 in a Dual Boot Environment where Windows was installed first?
[19:08] <z0rt|work> Urda: which windows
[19:09] <Darkaura> arand_ thanks for the help I don't know what I did but after I rebooted a second time it started to work
[19:09] <Urda> z0rt|work: Windows 7 Pro x64
[19:10] <Urda> z0rt|work: I'm assuming my GRUB2 settings will remain during an upgrade?
[19:10] <z0rt|work> Urda: they should, i had to do some wacky stuff with bcdedit to get mine to work. however, i had the installer resize my windows partition and put ubuntu on the remainder, so YMMV
[19:10] <arand_> Darkaura: Good : ) , didn't actually notice your response before, ya need to highlight people ; )
[19:11] <Urda> z0rt|work: YMMV? I had used Ubuntu to resize Windows to install 9.10
[19:12] <quiritius> i've fix the cli resolution with thru grub config (1440x900 now) but as often as not the cli is shifted below the screen border: only 2 line are visible.
[19:12] <z0rt|work> Urda: i started with 9.10 as well
[19:13] <avis> would someone be kind enough to send me the url the the ubuntu grub 2 wiki real quick just to see if the problems with ubuntu's serves have been resolved
[19:13] <Urda> z0rt|work: What does YMMV mean? Also would I have to worry alot about going from Beta 2 to the release later this month :)
[19:13] <avis> its a trigger
[19:13] <Urda> !avis grub2
[19:13] <avis> thank you
[19:13] <z0rt|work> Urda: it means your mileage may vary :)
[19:13] <Urda> !grub2 avis
[19:13] <avis> !grub2
[19:13] <markl_> hmm is there a place to discuss Tomboy issues?
[19:13] <Urda> z0rt|work: oh awesome :)
[19:13] <markl_> i realize that is the simplest app of all time so that should be unnecessary
[19:13] <Darkaura> arand_: okay sorry about that and I'm got my wireless working, god I remember when I had to compile the drivers for the Broadcom wireless, anyway, and now I'm updating
[19:13] <Urda> z0rt|work: so about that Beta to release... no big deal right?
[19:13] <markl_> but i'm wondering if there is any sort of networked tomboy app
[19:14] <markl_> so i can share notes on my iphone
[19:14] <z0rt|work> Urda: the only issue i really had to deal with was the fact that windows is still installed on my pc
[19:14] <markl_> or is there another ubuntu app that can do that kind of thing?
[19:15] <ninjai> I have a laptop and my keyboard backlight keys dont work.  xev returns output when they are pressed, and I am able to change the brightness manually from some file in the /proc directory.  How can I fix this
[19:15] <Urda> z0rt|work: lol, unfortunately I need it for my Engineering courses and USA Track and Field programs :\
[19:15] <patdk-wk> atrus, I'm thinking the 2.4 kernel, max size 2tb, since I had long ago switched to 64bit
[19:15] <claptrap> markl_: Honestly, I never even saw anything decent like that for Windows. The closest you can get, AFAIK, is using a web-based service like Evernote.
[19:15] <markl_> claptrap: i don't care about windows, just ubuntu 10.04 and iphone
[19:15] <Urda> markl_: Evernote has an iPhone app for sure
[19:16] <patdk-wk> with 2.6kernel and 32bit, your limited to 16tb
[19:16] <claptrap> markl_: Well, what I meant was, I don't think the application exists in the way you want in, EVEN in Windows, much less Linux. :p
[19:16] <markl_> oh ok, gotcha
[19:16] <z0rt|work> markl_: you could use google calendar i guess
[19:16] <markl_> is evernote a php app that i can deploy, or a service?
[19:17] <markl_> maybe i'm weird but i'd rather keep my personal info on my server
[19:17] <z0rt|work> i don't blame you, haha
[19:17] <claptrap> markl_: Evernote is a service. And yea, I agree. :p
[19:17] <avis> what is evernote ?  may i ask ?
[19:18] <claptrap> avis: It's an online sticky notes kinda webapp.
[19:18] <avis> ooh ok
[19:18] <claptrap> avis: Well, notes, anyway.
[19:18] <markl_> i have mob ties so i can't have my notes on google
[19:18] <markl_> unless i want cement shoes
[19:18] <z0rt|work> sleepin with the fishies
[19:19] <claptrap> markl_: Google will just use it to suggest where you might buy those shoes. ;D
[19:19] <gunksta> Is there any way to get a daily lucid image for the i386. I want the alt install, not the normal install. I don't see it at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[19:19] <avis> daily live build, google for that gunksta
[19:20] <gunksta> avis - thanks, but i don't want the live cd and that's all I'm able to find. I do know how to use Google
[19:20] <avis> they would not leave i386 out
[19:20] <patdk-wk> avis, he said ALTERNATE, not he couldn't find i386
[19:20] <gunksta> avis:all I can find are the live cd's - 386 and amd64, but I want the alt install
[19:20] <avis> got it.
[19:21] <avis> i hear you.  i'm sorry i've always used the live cd
[19:21] <patdk-wk> avis, I know I have like 6 computers, the live cd won't boot on, alternate works fine :)
[19:21] <gunksta> avis: i do too usually but this particular laptop is . . . well, it's a little difficult
[19:21] <claptrap> Laptops hate Linux. )=
[19:21] <z0rt|work> netbooks love it! :)
[19:22] <gunksta> i could just use the beta2, but I was trying to avoid a ton of updates
[19:22] <gunksta> wants a netbook
[19:22] <avis> oh wow yes there does seem to be a good place for those i used to use them and then after installation use envyng-gtk -core package to get support for my video card
[19:22] <claptrap> So, searching for certain words on any search engine in any browser crashes that browser: The words so far are "weather", "clock" and one other one that I don't remember just now.
[19:22] <claptrap> Really pissing me off, lol.
[19:22] <avis> gunksta, i'm sorry you can't find what your looking for
[19:22] <z0rt|work> the duck flies at midnight
[19:23] <gunksta> avis - no worries. I can always just use a beta and update it
[19:23] <avis> sounds like a plan
[19:23] <Urda> gunksta: this ins't what you want is it ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[19:24] <Urda> actually that might be it
[19:24] <Urda> :)
[19:24] <gunksta> Urda: yes, that's exactly what i want.
[19:24] <Urda> gunksta: awesome. Glad I could help :)
[19:26] <gunksta> downloading
[19:26] <patdk-wk> is that why ubuntu servers got so slow?
[19:26] <avis> have a nice day :)
[19:26] <memedood> I'm using this new ZOHO Office thing and in Word it has problems with the bold button
[19:26] <arand_> patdk-wk: The closer to release, the worse.
[19:27] <memedood> I can't turn off bold for next letters
[19:27] <joshyfluff> Is this the place for 10.04 discussion?
[19:27] <patdk-wk> arand_, ya, I was running my own mirror for a year or so
[19:27] <TommyThaGun_> jes JoshuaL
[19:27] <patdk-wk> that made things fast
[19:27] <TommyThaGun_> jes joshyfluff
[19:27] <patdk-wk> killed it off a few months ago though
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo +1
[19:27] <JoshuaL> :)
[19:27] <joshyfluff> Ok then... I'm having tablet problems...
[19:28] <patdk-wk> joshyfluff, order a new tablet?
[19:28] <TommyThaGun_> is it an ipad?
[19:28] <patdk-wk> don't spill soda on this one :)
[19:28] <joshyfluff> Its a wacom bamboo pen
[19:28] <joshyfluff> And it isn't hardware issues
[19:28] <arand_> They really should advertise torrent and zsync better on the homepage
[19:28] <TommyThaGun_> I don't know anything about tablets, just try me
[19:29] <joshyfluff> The tutorial I am following tells me to copy a nonexistent FDI file, and replace it. Is there no other way that I can get my tablet working? Because it currently has zero usability
[19:30] <gunksta> i wonder if the ubuntu servers will see a bigger crush now that the pirate bay is gone, and it looks like a few of the others may follow soon. They aren't necessary, but they do help people find the torrents
[19:30] <patdk-wk> yep, I downloaded many of my ubuntu iso's from bittorrent using isohunt
[19:31] <patdk-wk> now that is useless too
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: as long as its md5 matches what is on the official md5sum page it doesn't matter where its from
[19:32] <joshyfluff> No help then?
[19:32] <z0rt|work> gunksta: thepiratebay is still going strong mate
[19:32] <joshyfluff> Never mind.
[19:32] <patdk-wk> ActionParsnip, how many clicks I do to find it does matter though :)
[19:33] <gunksta> z0rt|work: I thought they got shut down . . . sheepishly goes to look
[19:33] <patdk-wk> joshyfluff just overloaded us with info to help him :(
[19:33]  * arand_ remembers the "leaked" ubuntu isos that always gets pushed to the torrent-sharing sites close to release >_<
[19:33] <z0rt|work> gunksta: isohunt got accosted though
[19:33] <patdk-wk> arand_, I would never download something from there that is that close to release, maybe a few months old :)
[19:34] <gunksta> z0rt|work: yep -- piratebay is most definitely still there. memory must be fading with age.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: just remember to md5 sum all isos you download. You did md5 sum right?
[19:34] <patdk-wk> heh, I had md5 so bad, need sha256 atleast :)
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: whatever as long as its verified its ok
[19:36] <Sa[i]nT> Is there a Meerkat chatroom yet?
[19:36] <JoshuaL> in lucid ubuntu would connect to wifi before i logged in
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: also burn as slow as you can and run the cd verifier when you first boot to the cd.
[19:36] <JoshuaL> now i always have to wait before i can actually surf the internet :(
[19:36] <patdk-wk> ActionParsnip, I never burn
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: if its still bad, try boot options
[19:37] <patdk-wk> vmware mount, or put it onto flash
[19:37] <jmichaelx> Sa[i]nT: i do not believe so. it will be found in #ubuntu+1 , after lucid release
[19:37] <patdk-wk> oh, mounting the live or desktop iso's?
[19:38] <patdk-wk> na, it's some issue, like half the dell hardware I have just won't boot them, grub won't even start I believe
[19:38] <patdk-wk> just shove the alternate cd in, and it's fine
[19:38] <z0rt|work> be gentle!
[19:38] <patdk-wk> it's not a burning or md5 issue, as it checks out fine, and even works perfectly on a different computer
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: then use boot options or vm config to make the system simpler for the duration of the install
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: or disable it in bios
[19:39] <patdk-wk> boot options don't work, if the boot menu doesn't come up :)
[19:39] <patdk-wk> disable what in bios?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Patdk-wk: if its to do a non-vm install then stuff like bluetooth,networking,sound anything you can to make life easier
[19:40] <patdk-wk> no bluetooth, only intel e1000 network, no sound
[19:41] <patdk-wk> it's dell servers, not much of that in them
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Still kill the lan, it may be silly enough to help
[19:41] <patdk-wk> heh, plugging in a usb cdrom drive also fixs the issue
[19:41] <patdk-wk> so I doubt it
[19:41] <patdk-wk> but it's a pain
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> If you fixed it then no need :)
[19:43] <Zelozelos> every once and a while when i start up and it gets to the purple screen it says "checking disk" and it gets to 72% and then freezes or something, whats goin on here?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Zelozelos: run a full fsck in a livecd environment. You may also want to get the ultimate boot cd which has many manufacturers disk check tools to make sure it is physically ok
[19:45] <Zelozelos> ok i will thanks
[19:46] <Zelozelos> where do i find the fsck thing?
[19:48] <z0rt|work> Zelozelos: it's an integral part of linux
[19:49] <Zelozelos> ok but how do i get it to check my hd from live cd?
[19:51] <Zelozelos> will the screen savers from this site work on this os?  http://www.digimindsoft.com/ubuntu-screensaver.html
[19:52] <Pici> Zelozelos: Generally no.
[19:52] <z0rt|work> Zelozelos: boot the livecd, open a terminal, do sudo fdisk -l, then if your disk is /dev/sda do fdisk /dev/sda
[19:52] <Zelozelos> ahh ok z0rt|work  i will do so :)
[19:52] <Zelozelos> any suggestion on whre i can get more screensavers?
[19:53] <gunksta> Zelozelos: from the command-line apt-cache search screensaver or look in synaptic.
[19:55] <z0rt|work> Zelozelos: make sure your disk isn't mounted before you fdisk it
[19:55] <Zelozelos> alrighty will do so ;)
[19:58] <JoshuaL> empathy only shows jabber as protocol for a new chat account
[19:58] <JoshuaL> how can i make use of the msn protocol?
[19:59] <Darkaura> now that I finally got lucid working it's awsome
[20:00] <z0rt|work> absolutely
[20:00] <avis> simply beautiful.  new graphics card.  works like a charm :)
[20:01] <dupondje> to bad empathy doesn't support msn transfers :(
[20:04] <z0rt|work> i'm installing jolicloud on my lucid netbook so i can dualboot and check it out, i hope it doesn't explode!
[20:06] <jrr> I'm not adapting to Empathy IM easily
[20:07] <jrr> can it be made to pop up new IMs into existing tabbed conversation windows?
[20:07] <JoshuaL> empathy only shows jabber as protocol for a new chat account, and i want to use the msn protocol. is there a fix for this?
[20:07] <atrus> JoshuaL: you probably need telepathy-butterfly installed.
[20:08] <Darkaura> well if you don't like empathy you can uninstall empathy and install amsn
[20:08] <JoshuaL> atrus, i checked that already
[20:08] <JoshuaL> atrus, sudo aptitude install telepathy-butterfly gives: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[20:08] <JoshuaL> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:09] <gunksta> JoshuaL: something doesn't sound right - on my empathy, I can definitely set up a MSN account, among many others. Are you sure that MSN isn't an option after you hit the ADD button in the accounts dialog?
[20:09] <JoshuaL> gunksta, totally sure, only jabber
[20:10] <balas> sudo apt-cache search msn empathy
[20:11] <JoshuaL> balas, http://pastebin.com/FZKve96t
[20:11] <gunksta> JoshuaL: you could try reinstalling empathy empathy-common telepathy-gnome and then delete the local config to see if that helps.
[20:11] <balas> whats that ?
[20:11] <JoshuaL> balas, a link to pastebin with the output of that command :)
[20:12] <balas> i believe gunksta is more knowledgeable
[20:12] <gunksta> JoshuaL: yuck - looks like empathy stores everything in gconf.   ~/.gconf/apps/empathy/accounts
[20:12] <gunksta> balas: i just make it up as i go
[20:13] <balas> :)  i hate being other peoples google
[20:13] <gunksta> gives me something to do when I'm bored at work
[20:13] <balas> i'm guilty of that too, but sometimes the answer is simple :)
[20:13] <z0rt|work> jrr: pidgin does that
[20:14] <JoshuaL> gunksta, doing that now
[20:14] <gunksta> There's definitely something weird about JoshuaL's system. I don't know if empathy's MSN support is any good, but it is definitely an option on my machine
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo +1
[20:15] <JoshuaL> reinstalling doesnt help either gunksta
[20:15] <gunksta> JoshuaL: did you wipe out the gconf settings?
[20:16] <NinoScript> About the guest session: Is it possible to configure anything there?
[20:17] <JoshuaL> gunksta, i did
[20:18] <gunksta> JoshuaL: well, it beats me. It should offer MSN as an option.
[20:18] <gunksta> JoshuaL: you could try #ubuntu where there are more people
[20:19] <dr3mro> does nautilus crash when trying to access network shares in lucid or it's just me ?? and do lucid uses much RAM Mine uses up to 800 MB and idle 450 MB ??? of My 3G Karmic didn't exceed 400 never ?????? and fspot greys alot ??? are these bugs or it's just me ????
[20:19] <gunksta> JoshuaL: I think someone else mentioned this, but do you have telepathy-butterfly installed?
[20:19] <JoshuaL> gunksta, yes and i just reinstalled it without luck
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: check the output of: free -m ,you will find most of it is disk cache, this is normal and will be freed up if real apps need the space
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: disk cache makes you slow hdd access go smoother and faster
[20:22] <JoshuaL> i give up for now
[20:23] <jrr> z0rt|work: yeah, I know pidge does.. was evaluating empathy.  I wound up going back to Pidgin.
[20:23] <jrr> for exactly that reason
[20:23] <JoshuaL> ill stick with pidgin
[20:23] <JoshuaL> thanks for the help everyone :)
[20:23] <dr3mro> Xchat + firefox & lots of plugins =100M +empathy +gwibber+terminal update + terminal free -m  = 452 MB ??? thats too much I think and rest of cache makes my usage 1.5 GB and by the way is there a tweak to make ubuntu caches more i mean i never get the use of my 3G only 450 ~ 800 for apps and 800~400 for disk cache ?
[20:23] <jrr> I just hopped by #empathy on irc.gimp.org, where they told my they haven't implemented the feature for fear of stealing focus with buggy WMs
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: your disk cache and ram use will be transparently managed by the kernel. You could change you vm.swappiness to 1 to make the system try to keep apps in ram which can make life smooter
[20:26] <NinoScript> I want to configure how my guest session will behave and look like (change the wallpaper, switch desktop environment, swap keys with xmodmap, &c.)
[20:27] <NinoScript> or make a passwordless account… or an account with a veeeery small password (1 character or so)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Ninoscript: you could make another user, configure everything then copy the config files to the guest accounts then chown them to the guest account
[20:28] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, mine never swapped except with fspot when i imported my iberary and it literaly used 2G swap and 1.5 G ram to import and it hang 3 times and i had to start again and it never can upload large number of photo to facebook ?? may be its a beta problem but i wish it get fixed by the final release .. fspot did had a problem in karmic with the new wave them .. i mean if canonical don.t tweak fspot why dont just use gthumb instead i uses it and its
[20:28] <dr3mro>  really flaky but any way fspot have morefeatures
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: I don't use facebookand didn't know it could upload to fbook
[20:29] <Machtin> how can i switch to another window, like alt+tab when i got a window open, which obviously doesn't support that? openarena, for example
[20:29] <Machtin> +?
[20:30] <JoshuaL> not?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: use gthumb if you prefer it, just because an app is default doesn't make it better than any other
[20:35] <Bizzeh> hi, cant seem to get ubuntu 10.04 to connect to a windows 7 share, could anyone give me any help?
[20:36] <z0rt|work> hey what's the key to pull up the grub2 menu at boot?
[20:36] <dupondje> z0rt|work: I tought ESC
[20:36] <josip> hello, anyone tried the server no backfill patch on lynx?
[20:36] <dupondje> or tab
[20:36] <dupondje> :)
[20:36] <NinoScript> "[…] copy the config files to the guest accounts then chown them to the guest account" so… how do I do that? :P
[20:36] <josip> s/server/xserver/
[20:37] <josip> NinoScript: man cp and man chown
[20:37] <josip> assuming that you want to learn something
[20:39] <NinoScript> mmm, let me rephrase that… where do I copy the config files to? the guest account doesn't really exist until you log in (or that is what I thought)
[20:39] <dr3mro> please help me fix nautilus crash when trying to click on windows networks icons in network and gives me segmention fault
[20:41] <josip> dr3mro: I doubt that anyone here is very familiar with natuilus' internals
[20:41] <josip> is there a similiar bug report filled in?
[20:41] <dr3mro> josip, is it working in you machine or a bug so i try to find a fix or wait for update
[20:43] <StevenR> Hi. I'm running the lucid b2 ... is it correct that update manager should be wanting to update 350ish packages today (I did the upgrade a couple of days ago)... has something big changed?
[20:43] <dr3mro> does nautilus browse networks in your lucid install or its just me
[20:44] <balas> will there be a large update between today and tomorrow ?
[20:45] <balas> something gets frozen on the 15th
[20:47] <Darkaura> okay I have a problem my the computer with lucid on it can see the computers with windows on them no problem, when go to view the shared folders it asks me for a user name and password I enter the user name and password but it won't connect the screen with username and password comes back up am I doing anything wrong?
[20:50] <z0rt|work> i think installing jolicloud broke my lucid install
[20:54] <darkaura> would I have to install samba to view my windows shares?
[20:58] <z0rt|work> yup
[20:59] <darkaura> but how come I can see my windows computer on the ubuntu machine
[21:01] <z0rt|work> because ubuntu has native samba support
[21:02] <darkaura> but I still have to install it to view the shared folders
[21:02] <z0rt|work> i think i'm reading something wrong here
[21:02] <z0rt|work> hahaha
[21:07] <darkaura> how come when I go to  personal file sharing preferences, and under Share files over the Network it shows This feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed? what packages do I need
[21:10] <fifth> I'm trying to find the best solution for firefox with embedded wav/avi/etc files ... got xine going for now but not ideal ... mozilla-mplayer is deprecated, official solution is gecko-mediaplayer, but that uses  the Gnome version of MPlayer ... was looking for a KDE4/Qt solution?
[21:11] <JEEBsv> Is there a "real" solution? Other than just telling people to use the player itself to load the file/stream >_>
[21:11] <JEEBsv> AFAIK none of those addons really are endorsed by Mozilla, and, in the worst case, abandoned
[21:12] <fifth> yeah but there are working solutions for GNome, even if unsupported, was just hoping for an embedded video with controls
[21:13] <JEEBsv> Oh, I'm surprised -- gecko-mediaplayer actually is still updated
[21:14] <JEEBsv> But does it use the unkept mplayer GUI from the svn or something else?
[21:14] <darkaura> I have samba smb/cifs file, print, and login server for unix installed, is there anything else I need?
[21:15] <W3ird_N3rd> I am either very very stupid or I have found quite a bug. I'm trying to install lucid beta2 using a netboot CD, but all it says is that no kernel modules can be found in the archive, no matter which mirror I pick
[21:15] <W3ird_N3rd> ..which is quite annoying because it prevents me from installing lucid
[21:21] <W3ird_N3rd> any of you ever installed lucid using a netboot disc?
[21:22] <JEEBsv> o/
[21:22] <JEEBsv> owait
[21:22] <JEEBsv> I'm getting tired
[21:22] <JEEBsv> misread that as netbook >_>
[21:22] <JEEBsv> carry on
[21:23] <W3ird_N3rd> well, I tried, but did not succeed.
[21:23] <W3ird_N3rd> So I wondered if anyone tried and succeeded.
[21:24] <Lachesis> Hello all. I'm using Xubuntu 10.04 (up to date in Synaptic) and am having problems with gnome-keyring-daemon. It works fine in seahorse and for my wifi, but it isn't setting SSH_AUTH_SOCK no matter what I do.
[21:24] <User_007> Hello. Where can i talk about shipit? i requested a CD and now i get "Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, and we're trying to ensure that we have enough CDs for those who really need one. We've noticed that you've already received CDs of several previous Ubuntu releases. "
[21:25] <W3ird_N3rd> User_007, this channel is for Ubuntu 10.04 lucid (beta) testing
[21:25] <User_007> shipit is already lucid lynx
[21:25] <W3ird_N3rd> good
[21:25] <W3ird_N3rd> but do you really need CD's?
[21:25] <Lachesis> it is definitely starting the SSH component, because /tmp/keyring-xxxxyy/ssh exists and when I manually set the right SSH_AUTH_SOCK, it works. Also, GNOME_KEYRING_PID and _CONTROL are getting set
[21:25] <W3ird_N3rd> you know you can download the ISO and burn one yourself.
[21:26] <User_007> W3ird_N3rd, yes. but i have not enought internet limit or bandwith
[21:27] <User_007> i have about 100kbps (10KB/s) and limitted by 100MB internet
[21:27] <W3ird_N3rd> that's not much.. south africa or something?
[21:27] <karlhunt> Blimey you can have some of my 10mb if you like :-p
[21:27] <User_007> is there a way to get alowed to shipit more cds?
[21:28] <Lachesis> Anybody have any ideas about gnome-keyring-daemon errors?
[21:28] <W3ird_N3rd> but euhm, I could also understand shipit doesn't indefinetely ship free CD's around. Considering all the updates (in terms of bandwidth) it might not be a bad idea to stick to LTS versions
[21:28] <User_007> like "becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs"
[21:28] <W3ird_N3rd> other than that, there are also shops selling Ubuntu CD's, in case shipit doesn't ship to you anymore.
[21:29] <User_007> i requested two CDs
[21:29] <W3ird_N3rd> not that I have any experience with shipit, I don't even have a data limit
[21:29] <User_007> one from 9.04 and one from 9.10
[21:30] <gunksta> User_007: I know it's not exactly what you were looking for, but you can purchase Ubuntu DVDs from Amazon - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase - You get more add-on apps that way.
[21:31] <User_007> gunksta, i don't have enough money to buys CDs
[21:31] <User_007> either to an decent internet plan
[21:31] <W3ird_N3rd> User_007, it's a good question (becoming a member or anything to become more eligible for more CD's), I would suggest asking that in #ubuntu. If that's not possible I still suggest buying them from some shop, they won't be that expensive.
[21:31] <W3ird_N3rd> User_007, just wondering in that case.. where do you live?
[21:31] <gunksta> User_007: I was afraid you might say that.
[21:33] <User_007> ty all
[21:33] <W3ird_N3rd> euhm ok his country is a secret apparently
[21:34] <Lachesis> yeah
[21:34] <Lachesis> strange
[21:34] <W3ird_N3rd> if he would indeed live in south africa I would have likely been willing to ship some DVD's to him
[21:34] <gunksta> yeah, i was thinking I would log in and give shipit his address and order them as myself.
[21:34] <Lachesis> i can't think of any reason for him to fake not having good internet.
[21:35] <gunksta> But, we can't really send him something if we don't have anything more specific, than 3rd rock from the sun
[21:35] <Lachesis> just blanket the earth with Ubuntu CDs
[21:35] <Lachesis> that ought to reach him
[21:36] <gunksta> Good idea. Anyone have Shuttleworth's cell number?
[21:36] <karlhunt> Updates must be a nightmare for him
[21:36] <EdgEy> you might have a problem with distributing 10.10, when you blocked all the sunlight with .04
[21:37] <gunksta> But if you've got practically no Internet connection, security updates aren't particularly important
[21:37] <Lachesis> no updates? that would be like going back to the Windows 98 days.
[21:37] <karlhunt> Did anyone see the Futurama where there was a giant ball of garbage and aol disks threatenting to crash into the earth?
[21:39] <karlhunt> ubuntocyplypse
[21:39] <Bookman> karlhunt, and this offers support how?
[21:40] <Lachesis> User007 just joined #ubuntu to ask people
[21:40] <Lachesis> they asked where he lived
[21:40] <Lachesis> and he /quit
[21:41] <gunksta> And a touch of humor ensued.
[21:42] <Bookman> #ubuntu-offtopic offers lots of conversation.
[21:43] <darkaura> I'm having a problem for some reason I'm unable to view my shared folders on my windows 7 machines
[21:43] <Lachesis> I'm having trouble with the SSH component of gnome-keyring-daemon under Xubuntu. GNOME_KEYRING_PID is set to the right pid, and /tmp/keyring-xxxyyy/ssh exists, but SSH_AUTH_SOCK is unset. If I set it, everything works dandy, but for some reason XFCE won't do that for me...
[21:44] <pcg> How do I undo "sudo im-switch -s default-xim"? "sudo im-switch -s default" didn't help and now I can't write øæå in for example gedit or accents, umlauts etc. anywhere. "Greek Polytonic" shows the same problem.
[21:44] <Lachesis> I even have code in my .profile that, if sourced, will resolve the problem (for the current terminal, obviously)
[21:44] <zenker> i was here earlier and stated  this "sometimes when i start up ubuntu it does a checking disk thing and it freezes at 73% and i was told to start a live cd session and fdisk, by fdisk /dev/sda5 (sda 5 is my ubuntu partition) but it says "unable to open /dev/sda5" what am i doing wrong?
[21:45] <Lachesis> zenker: fsck probably, not fdisk
[21:46] <Lachesis> so run fsck /dev/sda5
[21:46] <darkaura> does anyone have any ideas on how to do that
[21:46] <Lachesis> darkaura, it works fine over here
[21:46] <zenker> it says permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda5 you mush have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[21:46] <Lachesis> you probably have an error in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:47] <Lachesis> zenker, are you using fsck or fdisk?
[21:47] <mauri> i need help for my scanner canon lide 100
[21:47] <zenker> fsck
[21:47] <BUGabundo> evening 'p
[21:47] <Lachesis> zenker: sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[21:47] <W3ird_N3rd> sudo fsck -f /dev/sda5
[21:47] <Lachesis> ^^ what he said
[21:47] <zenker> ahh ok there it goes thank you
[21:48] <zenker> what is the -f switch? i want it to fix/resolve any errors or do what its gotta do
[21:49] <W3ird_N3rd> Force checking even if filesystem is marked clean
[21:49] <W3ird_N3rd> in case it's marked clean the check is skipped.
[21:49] <BUGabundo> great... now I'm left with an artifact on my screen... from a mouse over tooltip. how can I remove this ?
[21:49] <Lachesis> anybody know what's up with my gnome-keyring-daemon problem?
[21:49] <BUGabundo> me, on debian
[21:49] <BUGabundo> no prob so far in ubuntu
[21:50] <darkaura> what would cause me not being able not to see the shared folders it has been a while since I've looked through a samba config file
[21:50] <Lachesis> darkaura, not sure
[21:50] <Lachesis> can you see them from another ubuntu machine?
[21:50] <Lachesis> how about from that machine?
[21:50] <Lachesis> BUGabundo, for some reason it refuses to set SSH_AUTH_SOCK. It even puts the proper line in .Xsession.errors
[21:51] <zenker> so i guess after it ran its all good now? would it have reported any issues  i saw the pass 1-5 and  /dev/sda5: 163923/1966080 files (0.2% non-contiguous), 2086461/7851760 blocks  lines
[21:51] <W3ird_N3rd> I thought windows ignored shared folders at random. At least that's what it's always done to me.
[21:51] <BUGabundo> Lachesis: not what I'm seeing in debian
[21:51] <darkaura> lachesis this is the only ubuntu machine
[21:51] <W3ird_N3rd> sometimes you get them, sometimes you don't, sometimes only a few.
[21:52] <Lachesis> darkaura, can you see ANY shared folders?
[21:53] <Lachesis> darkaura, try smbclient -L localhost
[21:53] <darkaura> Lachesis not from the Ubuntu machine, but I do see the computers themselves
[21:53] <zenker> is .2% non-contiguous meaning that theres .2%fragmented files ...do i need to defrag?
[21:53] <Lachesis> zenker, nah
[21:53] <Lachesis> .2% is nothing
[21:54] <zenker> allrighty thanks guys
[21:54] <Lachesis> np
[21:55] <darkaura> Lachesis it says client plaintext auth
[21:56] <duffydack> !swap
[21:57] <rye> anybody got image of alpha1 iso for i386/amd64 ?
[21:57] <yofel> rye: why would you need alpha1?
[21:57] <rye> or anybody knows of a secret place where this can be taken from
[21:58] <rye> yofel, bug #560377 - virtual mouse of lucid in vm is sloow
[21:58] <Lachesis> darkaura, not sure, sorry.
[22:01] <W3ird_N3rd> rye, you said alpha 1 right?
[22:03] <W3ird_N3rd> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5251747/Ubuntu_10.4_%28Alpha_1_version%29 guess you have to wait for seeders, but why would you want it..
[22:04] <W3ird_N3rd> but doesn't anybody know why the netboot disc doesn't work at all?
[22:04] <W3ird_N3rd> it says there are no kernel modules in the archive
[22:04] <W3ird_N3rd> which is really bad
[22:07] <darkaura> now I can view my ubuntu machine from my windows machine now to get it to work the other way
[22:07] <W3ird_N3rd> oh my, this is the second time this channel goes silent when I ask that.. is it something I said?
[22:08] <W3ird_N3rd> darkaura, places>connect to server
[22:09] <darkaura> W3ird_N3rd I see my computer through nautilis but I can't get access to the shared folder
[22:10] <W3ird_N3rd> I vaguely remember something like enabled guest account on Windows, but you're really in the wrong channel for that.
[22:11] <W3ird_N3rd> I haven't used Windows for years and wouldn't exactly know from the top of my head how you enable the guest account
[22:11] <W3ird_N3rd> through connect to server you can enter a user name, that might help
[22:12] <z0rt|work> for guest accounts you have to set one up through an account with administrator rights
[22:26] <qwebirc31570> hello?
[22:26] <qwebirc31570> anyone here?
[22:27] <lullabud> nope.
[22:27] <lullabud> :P
[22:29] <BUGabundo> nope
[22:29] <BUGabundo> lets us enjoy the silence of post beta2
[22:29] <lullabud> hah, seriously
[22:30] <z0rt|work> ehehehe
[22:32] <tabasko> I did found interesting thin about lucid
[22:32] <tabasko> *thing
[22:33] <tabasko> I lately changed my non-os partition's filesystem from ntfs to fat
[22:33] <tabasko> I did that from OSX, which I have dualboot with ubuntu
[22:33] <W3ird_N3rd> interesting swap
[22:33] <W3ird_N3rd> usually the other way around
[22:34] <tabasko> Before that I did edit /etc/fstab line, and when I did try boot ubuntu with old ntfs line there, thada, it doenst boot!
[22:34] <thebrasse> Hello! Does anyone here know how to downgrade to python-reportlab 2.3 in lucid if I have already installed python-reportlab 2.4?
[22:34] <tabasko> I di must boot from live cd and fix the fstab line, isnt this odd?
[22:34] <W3ird_N3rd> thebrasse, yes
[22:35] <W3ird_N3rd> you are familiar with the commandline?
[22:35] <thebrasse> yes...
[22:35] <W3ird_N3rd> first you need to remove python-reportlab 2.4 (you can also do that with synaptic if you want)
[22:35] <yofel> tabasko: actually that is to be somewhat expected, mountall handles bad fstab lines really bad by just stopping to boot right now, I think many of us had similiar issues
[22:35] <lullabud> tabasko: if you changed your partition type and didn't update fstab, that's not weird at all.  NTFS and FAT are incredibly different.
[22:36] <W3ird_N3rd> now you "cd /var/cache/apt/archives"
[22:37] <W3ird_N3rd> thebrasse, and you can sudo dpkg -i yourdesired.deb
[22:37] <tabasko> yofel, yes. errors about mountall did come when I hit esc on boot
[22:37] <ardchoille> If I install 10.04beta 2 now and keep it up to date, will it end up being the exact same thing as if I installed the final release scheduled for the 29th of this month?
[22:37] <tabasko> but, is this always been this way? I remember fussing around with filesystems with old ubuntus, and they did still start
[22:38] <yofel> tabasko: actually I think that's to protect against corrupt systems if a necessary mount is just skipped, doesn't plymouth give you a prompt to skip mounting it?
[22:38] <tabasko> yofel, no
[22:38] <W3ird_N3rd> is that working thebrasse?
[22:38] <yofel> hm
[22:38] <tabasko> it did shoot me with errors and odd numbers
[22:38] <yofel> !beta | ardchoille
[22:39] <thebrasse> W3ird_N3rd: It would if I had the debs... :-)
[22:39] <ardchoille> yofel: Thank you :)
[22:39] <thebrasse> W3ird_N3rd: I only have the reportlab 2.4 debs there. Where can I download 2.3?
[22:39] <yofel> tabasko: did you see odd errors in the boot splash or in the terminal? did you see anything in the splash
[22:41] <tabasko> yofel, plymouth did show that cute bootlogo all the time, until I did hit Esc then I did see the errors scrolling on the screen
[22:41] <yofel> hm, mountall *should* post an error message in the splash too then
[22:41] <tabasko> that would be nice yes
[22:42] <tabasko> because its pretty easy "broke" ubuntu if somebody only changes filesystem
[22:42] <tabasko> haha, but maybe everybody isnt gonna do that all the time
[22:43] <W3ird_N3rd> thebrasse, you can try http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/python-reportlab but I can't guarantee it'll work
[22:43] <Zelda> Hello everyone.
[22:43] <Zelda> I just purchased a MyTouch 3g, is there a managing program for this?
[22:44] <Zelda> it recognizes it and charges it... but it wont open it.
[22:44] <jcastro> Zelda: it mounts as a usb stick
[22:44] <jcastro> you need to pull down the bar thing on the phone and mount it
[22:44] <Zelda> yeah but its not mounting.
[22:44] <Zelda> hm hang on..
[22:45] <thebrasse> W3ird_N3rd: Thanks! I'll try and see what happens.
[22:45] <Zelda> hahah there we go!
[22:45] <Zelda> thanks!
[22:46] <Zelda> Wow! this is SWEET!
[22:46] <yofel> tabasko: ok, didn't find any bug on LP about that, can you file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug mountall' that you don't get an error message in plymouth when it fails to mount the drive?
[22:48] <W3ird_N3rd> is there a seperate channel for the netboot disc?
[22:49] <W3ird_N3rd> because boy this is annoying. First it says no mirror has kernel modules. That sucks. So I burned a new netboot ISO (daily it seems), and this one doesn't obtain an IP through DHCP!
[22:49] <W3ird_N3rd> that's a step backwards.
[22:49] <jpds> W3ird_N3rd: No mirror?
[22:49] <W3ird_N3rd> jpds, tried the netherlands, UK and US mirrors
[22:50] <W3ird_N3rd> it kept saying none had kernel modules
[22:50] <W3ird_N3rd> that was the netboot ISO from 1 or 2 days ago
[22:50] <jpds> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[22:50] <jpds> Lies.
[22:50] <W3ird_N3rd> and the one from 13 april can't obtain an IP using DHCP
[22:51] <W3ird_N3rd> jpds, it's most likely a netboot specific problem
[22:51] <W3ird_N3rd> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[22:54] <tabasko> yofel, yes. I will do that
[22:55] <MTecknology> so.. I just finished wiping / off of my system temporarily and now I can't install lvm2 which is pretty much required for to finish fixing my system...
[22:56] <MTecknology> Any ideas what's broken?  http://dpaste.com/183963/
[22:56] <MTecknology> I'm on a 10.04 live cd - I have no other cd's
[22:56] <venger> there's a known issue where windows disables (or puts in sleep mode?) realtek NICs thus the NIC won't link up until windows is booted again.  This breaks networking in linux.  Anyone dealt with this and devised your own fix?  I've tried things like turning on the boot rom and disabling things in the driver.  tia for any help.
[22:57] <MTecknology> venger: ouch..
[22:57] <lullabud> venger: i know that in the past, realtek windows drivers have had an option to disable that feature.
[22:57] <lullabud> venger: i've always hated that "feature"... unplug power, card goes to sleep.  because, you know, nobody uses ethernet on battery....
[22:58] <venger> i thought it would be something like diabling "Allow windows to manage power"
[22:58] <venger> and i enabled Shutdown WOL
[22:58] <lullabud> venger: check control panel in windows, there's a driver in there with a checkbox.  otherwise it's worth looking in BIOS too.
[22:58] <lullabud> venger: what model computer?
[22:59] <len_> I just upgraded to 10.04 (Kubuntu) and can't get the nvidia drivers to work.  They load ok, and there are no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  I can log in but everything looks crappy, and then the screen goes black the if I launch a program.
[22:59] <venger> lullabud, custom built Asus p7p55d evo + i7 860
[23:01] <len_> I'm so sick of the video driver bs every release.  The worst problem with linux.
[23:03] <W3ird_N3rd> len_, did you install the closed drivers or are you using nouveau?
[23:03] <len_> Seems like a lot of people are having problems getting the nvidia 195 drivers to install and/or load.  I had no problem with that.  They just don't work right.  Anyone else having that problem?
[23:03] <len_> The closed drivers.
[23:03] <len_> They are the only ones with usable 3d
[23:04] <len_> I am using nv right now, and they are working ok with no 3d
[23:05] <venger> len_,  well from what i've seen nouveau would need to be blacklisted to use the blob or roll your own kernel without it
[23:05] <W3ird_N3rd> len_, that's impossible I believe
[23:05] <W3ird_N3rd> the nv drivers were removed in 10.04 weren't they?
[23:05] <len_> I'm using them, so I guess not.
[23:06] <len_> It doesn't matter if nouveau is blacklisted or not in my case
[23:06] <len_> nouveau modules doesn't get loaded anyway.
[23:06] <underdev> anyone else having a problem connecting to ubuntu one?
[23:06] <venger> len_, what about some fb module ala vga16fb or something?
[23:07] <len_> I'll check, but I don't think that mod is loading.
[23:07] <W3ird_N3rd> https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa has only karmic drivers..hmmm
[23:09] <len_> hmm, vga16fb is loaded now, but not sure if it was when I was on nvidia drivers
[23:10] <len_> I thought that was causing problems getting nvidia to laod in the first place though.
[23:10] <len_> It's all thumbs up in my Xorg.0.log file.  nvidia 195 drivers load fine
[23:10] <len_> The just don't work right
[23:10] <W3ird_N3rd> I would suspect that would be an nvidia problem
[23:11] <venger> len_, meaning?
[23:11] <Volkodav> what's the name of gnome language switcher applet ?
[23:12] <len_> Starts out looking crappy (oversaturated, and parts of text washed out), then goes to all black screen when I launch any program.
[23:13] <len_> Can still see/move white pointer around though
[23:14] <yofel> len_: what graphics card? kubuntu with 195 works just fine on my Quadro NVS 140M and GeForce 250GTS
[23:15] <len_> 9800
[23:15] <len_> Do you have desktop effects turned on?
[23:16] <len_> I was wondering if compositing was broken
[23:16] <len_> BUT
[23:17] <len_> KDM logon screen looks bad too and shouldn't be effected by that
[23:18] <len_> It looks bad like lcd screens do when they are set to a non-native res--even though it is not.
[23:18] <len_> looks perfectly crisp when I switch back to nv
[23:19] <AK> Guys mine Audio input level (internal microphone) is not recognized on dual boot install. Please advise ...
[23:19] <AK> Hardware: DELL Vostro 2510 ALC268
[23:20] <AK> Is it true that Ubuntu doesn't work on Dual Boot...?
[23:21] <len_> youfel, 195 worked for me (except for some other unrelated issues which caused me to stick to 190) in karmic, just not lucid
[23:24] <DanaG> len_: sounds like the nv driver may be dithering, and the nvidia binary not?
[23:24] <DanaG> Most laptop LCDs are not true 24-bit color... they're usually 18-bit.
[23:25] <DASPRiD> DanaG, and i always thought mine had 32-bit ;P
[23:25] <DanaG> naw, 32 is what Windows calls 24-with-alpha.
[23:25] <len_> It's a Desktop, and black text looks terrible, so colors is not the issue
[23:25] <DanaG> 8 bits each R, G, B, A.
[23:26] <DASPRiD> DanaG, that's the joke i was refering to ;)
[23:27] <len_> Could be some nvidia-settings that are being applied that need to be cleard I though.
[23:27] <DanaG> What I'd want some day: DreamColor LCD (30-bit color, woot!)
[23:27] <DASPRiD> DanaG, i bet you can't tell the difference between 24-bit and 30-bit colors when i show you them ;P
[23:27] <len_> If I try to open nvidia-setting though it crashes to black screen just like any other app
[23:28] <DASPRiD> DanaG, anyway, 32-bit color display are possible in theory, think about transparent glass displays ;)
[23:28] <len_> I think those are stored in user profiles though
[23:29] <len_> and kdm is before logon and that looks bad too
[23:29] <BUGabundo> WTH
[23:29] <BUGabundo> disk mounted in read only :(
[23:29] <BUGabundo> rebooting and fscking :(
[23:30] <DanaG> I don't think I'd want my display to be transparent.
[23:30] <DanaG> Too much mess behind it.
[23:32] <Volkodav> where did shared folders go ?
[23:32] <len_> What problems is having vga16fb loaded at same time as nvidia module supposed to cause?  Or is the problem just that they won't both load at the same time?
[23:32] <Volkodav> to set up shares ?
[23:45] <jimerickson> when will gnome-shell be available in lucid?
[23:48] <BUGabundo> back
[23:48] <BUGabundo> I'm scared to even look at my disc
[23:50] <yofel> jimerickson: 2.28.1~git20091125-1 is available in lucid
[23:50] <len_> OK, I went back and tested nvidia with and without vga16fb loaded, and it made no difference either way.
[23:52] <jimerickson> yofel: but it won't install for me because of libgjs0
[23:55] <yofel> jimerickson: then make sure there already is a bug filed about that on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell and file one with 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell' if that's not the case. There's already a sync bug for 2.29 though
[23:55] <jimerickson> yofel: ok will do thanks alot
[23:57] <m0ar> *-16-generic will ONLY match things that END with -16-generic, right?