[00:20] <Phrea> bump [read up to my question] :D
[00:56] <_CommandeR_> sorry was not paying attention to this channel
[00:57] <_CommandeR_> in that you mean restricted drivers Phrea?
[00:57] <Phrea> yes
[00:57] <Phrea> can one refresh that list?
[00:58] <_CommandeR_> there should be a button line update or something if im not wrong
[00:58] <Phrea> asking
[00:58] <Phrea> :)
[00:59] <Phrea> it's so weird that the little program doesnt do that automatically
[01:00] <Phrea> it's a question of refreshing the list...
[01:00] <_CommandeR_> hm but there is a button yes?
[01:00] <Phrea> I'm asking her
[01:00] <_CommandeR_> long time since i used it.
[01:00] <Phrea> no answer as of yet
[01:00] <Bodsda> Phrea: Have you enabled the extra repositories?
[01:01] <Phrea> Bodsda: have to ask
[01:01] <Phrea> Bodsda: this should be apart from the repo's...
[01:01] <Phrea> [imho, I know it doesnt work that way]
[01:01] <Phrea> asking her these questions
[01:02] <Bodsda> Phrea: Whenever I reinstall, I have to enable the repo's to get my nvidia drivers
[01:02] <Phrea> even via the hardware driver app?
[01:02] <Bodsda> Yes
[01:02] <Phrea> hmmm, odd....
[01:02] <Phrea> never had to do that before...
[01:03] <Bodsda> not really, it is a restricted driver
[01:03] <Phrea> yes, but they DO show up in my driver window
[01:03] <Phrea> added or not
[01:03] <Bodsda> I personally dont care much for open source when it comes to drivers - it will show up, but wont install
[01:03] <Phrea> it sees what kind of card I use, and it shows what I could use as a driver
[01:04] <Phrea> Bodsda: neither do I :D
[01:04] <Phrea> it just has to work
[01:04] <_CommandeR_> Bodsda, well there is some good stuff in open source drivers.
[01:04] <Phrea> I dont care a lot about 'free free'
[01:04] <Phrea> to me, it's just free
[01:04] <_CommandeR_> From what i know devs that create programs know better how to do it.
[01:05] <Bodsda> yeah, - im off for no, but my recomendation is to enable all repo's, run   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    then open the restricted drivers section and see if you can install
[01:05] <Phrea> Bodsda: ok
[01:05] <Phrea> thanks :)
[01:05]  * Bodsda does care about free free, just not when it comes to my video display
[01:06] <Phrea> Bodsda: same as me :P
[01:06] <Phrea> I bet you dont care about 'free free' codecs either, do you :D
[01:06] <Bodsda> couldnt give a scooby
[01:06] <_CommandeR_> love are you mad
[01:07] <Bodsda> dma = bad though
[01:07] <_CommandeR_> you mean drm ?
[01:07] <Phrea> I bet he does
[01:07] <Bodsda> yeah, sorry, been writing dma a lot recently, its one of my variables in my bot
[01:07] <_CommandeR_> ^^
[01:07] <Phrea> and who can live without codecs, closed, lisenced or whatever :D
[01:07] <Phrea> I couldnt ever
[01:08] <_CommandeR_> i can live without WMA WMV
[01:09] <Bodsda> night
[01:09]  * Phrea is pragmatic
[01:09] <Phrea> it needs to work, period. :D
[01:09] <Phrea> Linux is free to ME
[01:09] <Phrea> that's what I care about
[01:10] <_CommandeR_> well there is still allot of man hours behind it
[01:10] <Phrea> I know
[01:10] <Phrea> It's not that I dont appreciate it
[01:10] <Phrea> I LOVE OS
[01:11] <Phrea> but I love even more that it's free to me
[01:11] <Phrea> and I do fight for freedom if need be
[01:11] <_CommandeR_> hm, well Windows is also free in a way.
[01:11] <Phrea> ya, no
[01:11] <Phrea> it costs me an arm and a leg
[01:12] <_CommandeR_> are few ways to get windows for "free"
[01:12] <Phrea> I know
[01:12] <Phrea> :)
[01:12] <Phrea> but I also care about getting stuff legally nowadays :)
[01:12] <_CommandeR_> hm..
[01:12] <Phrea> and I really do love FOSS
[01:12] <Phrea> it's a no brainer
[01:13] <_CommandeR_> but thing i love about linux is how you can change it for your own liking.
[01:14] <Phrea> oh, very true too !!
[01:14] <Phrea> :)
[01:14] <Phrea> I love that bit :)
[01:14] <Phrea> eventhough I dont hack much myself
[01:14] <Phrea> I still love that I KNOW that I can
[01:14] <Phrea> it's amazing
[01:14] <Phrea> I have one more pc to go [this one]
[01:14] <Phrea> then I'm windows free
[01:14] <Phrea> :)
[01:15] <Phrea> [my default box is running Linux, home server is, this one is left, waiting for Lucid]
[01:15] <_CommandeR_> here you got mine = http://bayimg.com/image/ialekaaco.jpg
[01:15] <Phrea> your what?
[01:16] <_CommandeR_> desktop ^^
[01:16] <Phrea> thought so :)
[01:16] <Phrea> seems cool
[01:16] <_CommandeR_> Lucid Lynx ^
[01:16] <Phrea> but I'm a Gnome user
[01:16] <_CommandeR_> that is gnome lol
[01:16] <Phrea> it is?
[01:16] <Phrea> wow, cool
[01:16] <Phrea> hacked it to bits, didnt you :D
[01:16] <Phrea> I'm more of a user than anyting else
[01:17] <Phrea> I think my screenie is posted on the forums somewhere
[01:17] <Phrea> let me find it
[01:17] <Phrea> http://i.imgur.com/Ppx7n.jpg
[01:17] <_CommandeR_> not really, added Docky2 to use it instead of the lower panel and gnome-do to launch apps by typing them and on the right you got firefox and on left terminal and top left nautilus
[01:17] <Phrea> I've left that poo colored theme behind
[01:18] <Phrea> it's a bit different now, but oh well
[01:18] <_CommandeR_> hehe
[01:18] <Phrea> it's mine none the less
[01:18] <Phrea> :)
[01:18] <Phrea> as you can see, I dont 'hack' a lot
[01:18] <_CommandeR_> i still have the top panel for "when i need it" but it on auto hide
[01:18] <Phrea> ah :)
[01:18] <_CommandeR_> seems more slik this way :P
[01:18] <Phrea> I dont understand docky at all
[01:18] <Phrea> it takes up SO much room
[01:19] <_CommandeR_> mutch no...
[01:19] <_CommandeR_> change icon size then
[01:19] <Phrea> still
[01:19] <_CommandeR_> then change to inteli hide and it hides when you have something fullscreen and only shows when you move your mouse over it.
[01:19] <Phrea> I dont see how it's usable over the standard gnome panels
[01:19] <Phrea> I'm not one for eye candy
[01:20] <Phrea> as you can see :D
[01:20] <Phrea> I just dont care
[01:21] <_CommandeR_> hm
[01:21] <Phrea> I'll prob not even change the theme of Lucid
[01:21] <Phrea> it seems cool enough.
[01:21] <_CommandeR_> i dont like the pink
[01:21] <Phrea> change of wallpaper is all I need prob
[01:21] <Phrea> it's purple :D
[01:22] <_CommandeR_> same thing diferent hex code
[01:22] <Phrea> wich comes out as a different thing :P
[01:22] <Phrea> you dont catch me that easily, sir
[01:22] <Phrea> :D
[01:22] <_CommandeR_> but I am proud of this = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSg2rRj4HQ&feature=related
[01:22] <_CommandeR_> this is my lucid boot screen :P
[01:22] <Phrea> I'm ignorant, but not THAT ignorant
[01:22] <Phrea> :P
[01:23] <Phrea> I dont do bootscreens
[01:23] <Phrea> ...but ok, it does look effing cool
[01:23] <Phrea> I might steal it
[01:23] <Phrea> :P
[01:23] <Phrea> is it your own?
[01:24] <Phrea> bw ibuclaw
[01:24] <Phrea> *wb
[01:24] <Phrea> it's late
[01:24] <_CommandeR_> i did not make it I use it:P
[01:24] <Phrea> oh
[01:24] <Phrea> :\
[01:24] <Phrea> I love original stuff
[01:24] <_CommandeR_> xsplash is gone.
[01:24] <_CommandeR_> plymouth replaces it.
[01:25] <Phrea> aha... [as if I know what you are talking about]
[01:25] <_CommandeR_> here is another oldschool bootscreen :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwPVySwkaxw&feature=related
[01:26] <Phrea> I cant fap that fast !!
[01:26] <Phrea> :D
[01:26] <Phrea> that is the coolest thing I've ever seen ! :D
[01:26] <_CommandeR_> ^^
[01:27] <Phrea> the voice lights should've been animated too
[01:28] <Phrea> I adored KITT
[01:28] <Phrea> couldnt care less about the rest of the show
[01:28] <_CommandeR_> dont think there is really a problem improving it.
[01:28] <Phrea> I just cared about KITT
[01:28] <Phrea> :D
[01:29] <_CommandeR_> Plymouth does really have big improvements over usplash
[01:29] <Phrea> nah, it's prob done easily
[01:30] <Phrea> must be posted with layers in tact, I'd do it that way too
[01:32] <_CommandeR_> mm
[01:35] <Phrea> I can animate it in seconds, if posted in layers
[01:40] <_CommandeR_> hm
[02:28] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was wondering. does vmware work on ubuntu?
[02:30] <ShadowKnight> i know its available to download on linux 64bit on its website but not sure if that will work or to take the client on the software center
[02:30] <haz3lnut> ShadowKnight: used to. I couldn't compile on karmic and finally resorted to virtualbox
[02:31] <ShadowKnight> virtualbox? where and how can i get that?
[02:31] <haz3lnut> virtualbox.com
[02:31] <ShadowKnight> and how does it work?
[02:31] <haz3lnut> pretty much just like vmware
[02:32] <haz3lnut> even reads vmdk disks
[02:32] <haz3lnut> added benefit, the USB ports work
[02:33] <haz3lnut> sorry, virtualbox.org
[02:33] <ShadowKnight> oh wow okay ill look into it right now. thank you haz3lnut
[02:33] <haz3lnut> it's a Sun (now Oracle) program.
[02:59] <paultag> Howdy beginners
[03:00] <phillw> hi paultag, you know about git ?
[03:00] <paultag> yeah phillw :)
[03:01] <phillw> kewl, if i had this
[03:01] <phillw> phillw@piglet:~$ git clone git://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/menu-cache
[03:01] <phillw> how do i update it ?
[03:02] <phillw> i.e get the latest version
[03:02] <paultag> phillw, git pull
[03:02] <paultag> phillw, :)
[03:02] <phillw> -clone + pull ??
[03:03] <paultag> phillw, cd menu-cache
[03:03] <paultag> git pull
[03:03] <phillw> I'll learn this stuff one day, just don't count on it being soon :-D
[03:03] <paultag> phillw, it's different then svn in one really really important way -- every checkout is a full repository. You commit to the local "glob" and when you want, you can push or sync with another repo ( such as sourceforge's )
[03:04] <paultag> phillw, so when you "update" you are updating against the repository ( locally ). You want to sync remote to local, so you "PULL" their changes locally
[03:06] <paultag> phillw, have you got it to update?
[03:06] <phillw> drat and darnation, that worked, but the same for libfm: git://pcmanfm.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pcmanfm/libfm
[03:06] <phillw> ass="q
[03:06] <phillw> did not, yeah, it said i was uptodate
[03:06] <paultag> what was the output phillw ?
[03:07] <phillw> hillw@piglet:~$ cd menu-cache
[03:07] <phillw> phillw@piglet:~/menu-cache$ git pull
[03:07] <phillw> Already up-to-date.
[03:07] <paultag> phillw, then your local branch is already at the latest copy
[03:07] <paultag> ( that it knows about )
[03:07] <phillw> phillw@piglet:~$ cd lbfm
[03:07] <phillw> bash: cd: lbfm: No such file or directory
[03:08] <paultag> Hold on phillw
[03:09] <phillw> it would help if i gave you the instructions ..
[03:09] <phillw> wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide#The_latest_source_code_in_development_from_git
[03:10] <paultag> phillw, what's  git branch -a
[03:10] <paultag>   remotes/origin/HEAD -> origin/master
[03:10] <paultag> is that there?
[03:10] <phillw> I already have built it once, and have all the bits, I need to update what I had to the new ones, and then i can follow the instructions
[03:10] <paultag> kk hold on phillw
[03:12] <paultag> phillw, info on libfm
[03:12] <paultag> commit 60a482af6ab7902e247494515e3f09f23e7e2da0
[03:12] <paultag> Merge: 88be756 bf0d174
[03:12] <paultag> Author: Martin Bagge / brother (or Pootle...) <brother@bsnet.se>
[03:12] <paultag> Date:   Tue Apr 13 23:52:35 2010 +0200
[03:12] <phillw> I need to add the --debug bit for the dev, as it is mis-behaving and feel like a reet twerp asking him to go through it all over again with me ;-(
[03:12] <paultag> Info on menu
[03:12] <paultag> commit 9f7ccf425f8db411098374305ac1bafb462fd571
[03:12] <paultag> Author: Hong Jen Yee (PCMan) <pcman.tw@gmail.com>
[03:12] <paultag> Date:   Sat Feb 27 16:45:37 2010 +0800
[03:13] <paultag> phillw, on pcman
[03:13] <paultag> commit faba3593dd59c4d85fe328270cfdc89465ed84a0
[03:13] <paultag> Author: Martin Bagge / brother (or Pootle...) <brother@bsnet.se>
[03:13] <paultag> Date:   Tue Apr 13 23:51:35 2010 +0200
[03:13] <paultag> phillw, go into each repo and run "git show" ( q to exit )
[03:13] <paultag> phillw, see if that data lines up. If it does, you are up to date
[03:14] <phillw> paultag: which means exactly zero to me, took him 2 days for me to be able to compile it the 1st time :-(
[03:14] <paultag> phillw, go into each repo and run "git show" ( q to exit )
[03:14] <phillw> cd libfm  ?
[03:14] <paultag> phillw, the top three lines should match my three lines for each one I posted
[03:15] <paultag> phillw, yis
[03:16] <paultag> phillw, what makes you think you are out of date?
[03:16] <phillw> libfm says
[03:16] <phillw> Date:   Sun Mar 21 17:55:21 2010 +0100
[03:16] <paultag> yeah you are _slightly_ out of date
[03:16] <phillw> so, git pull ?
[03:16] <paultag> phillw, rm -rf libfm; git clone git://pcmanfm.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pcmanfm/libfm
[03:18] <phillw> paultag: is there no way of updating them, or do we have to always do an rm -rf ?
[03:18] <paultag> phillw, git pull should work
[03:18] <paultag> phillw, but if your remote is fscked up, it could have issues
[03:18] <paultag> phillw, you should check with git branches -a and verify remote/HEAD is set to local
[03:18] <phillw> can i try git pull 1st :-)
[03:19] <paultag> phillw, :)
[03:20] <phillw> Date:   Tue Apr 13 23:52:35 2010 +0200
[03:20] <phillw> :-D
[03:20] <paultag> phillw, :)
[03:20] <paultag> phillw, congrats :)
[03:22] <phillw> paultag: as i say on the forum, do not a couple thousand coffee beans catch you out, I'm very much a n00b, espcially to this level of testing releases
[03:22] <paultag> phillw, :)
[03:22] <paultag> phillw, I trust you are smart enough to take all this in :)
[03:23] <phillw> I have it logged, I will make notes later
[03:23] <ShadowKnight> Hey, i downloaded the virtual box, i was wondering, how much ram should i put for it? my comp has 4gigs of ram
[03:23] <paultag> phillw, I'm here to help
[03:23] <paultag> phillw, please message me if you need more help
[03:23] <paultag> ShadowKnight, it's up to you :)
[03:23] <paultag> ShadowKnight, what are you running inside the vbox ?
[03:24] <ShadowKnight> i want to run windows (idk which one to run either yet lol) because of some things i needed with it. and i was just planning to see which other systems would be good to try out to just test them out
[03:26] <phillw> paultag: I hope I summarised it here --> ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9108616&postcount=218
[03:26] <ShadowKnight> the max it lets me put is around 3144mb of ram
[03:26] <paultag> cool! Thanks phillw :)
[03:31] <phillw> paultag: the people who help me are those on #ubuntu-beginners, ##devil, ##ufbt, #lubuntu, #ubuntu+1 and then a load off the forums, the only reason I have those beans is that I always try to help back, as I know many do.
[03:31] <paultag> phillw, Yup :)
[03:33] <ShadowKnight> paultag, do you have any recommendation on how much ram or how i should set up this virtualbox?
[03:34] <paultag> ShadowKnight, what are you running inside the vbox ?
[03:34] <paultag> Oh shit
[03:34] <paultag> sorry ShadowKnight, you responded to me
[03:34] <ShadowKnight> its okay dont worry lol
[03:34] <paultag> ShadowKnight, what version of windows?
[03:34] <ShadowKnight> i was thinking windows 7 but if you recommend a lower one ill try that one. i know i am in between 7 or xp
[03:35] <paultag> ShadowKnight, give it a healthy 2 GB
[03:35] <paultag> ShadowKnight, go a bit over if you want, but 2GB is a sweet spot, I think
[03:36] <ShadowKnight> okay then ill try that out right now, what are the limitations of virtualbox?
[03:38] <ShadowKnight> paultag, do i create a new hard disk or use an existing one? o_O
[03:38] <paultag> ShadowKnight, the OSE is missing some functionality of the "full" version
[03:38] <paultag> ShadowKnight, new hard drive
[03:38] <paultag> ShadowKnight, but it should have everything you need, and it's "more" F/OSS then VMWare
[03:39] <ShadowKnight> paultag, what do you mean the "full" version? and  more in what sense?
[03:40] <ShadowKnight> paultag, sorry for bothering you again but dynamically or fixed size?
[03:40] <paultag> ShadowKnight, please bug me, I'm here to help :)
[03:40] <paultag> ShadowKnight, it's up to you
[03:40] <paultag> ShadowKnight, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualBox
[03:40] <paultag> "The application was initially offered under a proprietary software license. One version of the product was available at no cost for personal or evaluation use, subject to the VirtualBox Personal Use and Evaluation License (PUEL).[4] In January 2007, VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) was released as free software, subject to the requirements of the GNU General Public License (GPL), version 2.[5]"
[03:41] <paultag> More:
[03:41] <paultag> Licensing
[03:41] <paultag> There are two versions of the VirtualBox software.
[03:41] <paultag> The full VirtualBox package comes under a proprietary Personal Use and Evaluation License (PUEL), which allows using the software free of charge for personal and educational use and evaluation of the product.[14] Licenses for commercial deployment of the full VirtualBox package can be purchased from Oracle, although commercial use by individuals within a company is covered by the free PUEL.[15]
[03:41] <paultag> A second version called the VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) is free software released under the GNU General Public License (GPL), from which the following closed-source features are missing:[16]
[03:41] <paultag> The built-in Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server
[03:41] <paultag> USB support (see below) and the combination of running the RDP server with support of remote USB devices
[03:41] <ShadowKnight> lol thanks paultag, well i dont think that ill be missing those features very much lol
[03:41] <paultag> ShadowKnight, :)
[03:42] <ShadowKnight> paultag, if you uninstall the package would it take away the harddisk storage it is using?
[03:42] <paultag> ShadowKnight, no
[03:43] <paultag> ShadowKnight, What it does is it creates a disk image in ~/.VirtualBox or something
[03:43] <paultag> ShadowKnight, and you can manually remove the files ( that act as hard drives )
[03:44] <ShadowKnight> oh okay then thanks for clearing that up paultag
[03:44] <paultag> ShadowKnight, sure thing :)
[03:47] <ShadowKnight> paultag, what does this mean?
[03:47] <ShadowKnight> VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot. Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.
[03:48] <paultag> what CPU do you have ShadowKnight?
[03:48] <paultag> Wait, hold on
[03:48] <paultag> ShadowKnight, can you pastebin /proc/cpuinfo ?
[03:48] <paultag> !pastebin
[03:48] <Votebot> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <paultag> ShadowKnight, `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[03:49] <ShadowKnight> yea sure, ummm how do i do that paultag? is that a terminal command?
[03:49] <paultag> ShadowKnight, yis :)
[03:50] <ShadowKnight> paultag, okay done lol what do i paste for you here?
[03:50] <paultag> ShadowKnight, paste the whole thing in a pastebing
[03:50] <paultag> pastebin*
[03:50] <paultag> !pastebin | ShadowKnight
[03:50] <Votebot> ShadowKnight: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:51] <ShadowKnight> http://paste.ubuntu.com/414055/
[03:51] <paultag> ShadowKnight, flawless, thank you :)
[03:52] <paultag> OK you can support it. ShadowKnight If you could reboot into your BIOS and check that you are allowing virtualization Check for something like VT-x, or Hypervisor
[03:54] <ShadowKnight> so i enable virtualization under bios? okay thanks ill go try that right now.
[03:54] <paultag> ShadowKnight, let us know :)
[04:14] <ShadowKnight> hey
[04:14] <ShadowKnight> paultag, it still give me the same message even after enabling intels virtualization technology
[04:14] <paultag> ShadowKnight, odd
[04:15] <paultag> ShadowKnight, and you are sure you enabled it?
[04:15] <ShadowKnight> yep i tried it twice and it says enabled
[04:15] <paultag> ShadowKnight, can you paste the error message again?
[04:15] <ShadowKnight> yea sure np
[04:15] <ShadowKnight> VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.
[04:15] <ShadowKnight> Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.
[04:16] <paultag> ShadowKnight, what's the output of `uname -m` ?
[04:16] <ShadowKnight> x86_64
[04:17] <paultag> Hummmmm
[04:17] <paultag> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17544
[04:17] <paultag> ShadowKnight, ^
[04:18] <paultag> ShadowKnight, looks like your situation, I think
[04:18] <ShadowKnight> okay then ill look into this right now paultag, thanks
[04:18] <paultag> ShadowKnight, keep us updated :)
[04:30] <ShadowKnight> paultag, it says that my processor does offer hardware support for virtualization but that it needs to be run with administrative rights in order to determine whether intel's vmx virtual machine extensions are being locked on, locked off, or neither. it says that the bios may be deliberately disabling support and that i should do it with administrative privileges under a 32bit version of nt xp or vista
[04:30] <paultag> ShadowKnight, :/
[04:31] <ShadowKnight> any guesses? i also saw that i should try to update my bios
[04:31] <ShadowKnight> i got this all from a program called securable
[04:31] <paultag> ShadowKnight, let me meditate on this real quick
[04:31] <ShadowKnight> okay thanks paultag
[04:39] <ShadowKnight> hey paultag, ill be right back imma try something in windows really quick
[04:39] <paultag> OK ShadowKnight
[04:56] <ShadowKnight> hey paultag, it says it doesnt support some hypertreading thing is that a problem?
[04:56] <paultag> I don't think so
[04:57] <ShadowKnight> okay, i checked some utility for my processor and it is able to be used on it so idk.
[04:57] <ShadowKnight> should i update my bios? its in A10 and theres an update for A14
[04:58] <paultag> Give it a try ShadowKnight
[04:59] <ShadowKnight> okay thanks paultag, ill be back again later then lol
[04:59] <paultag> kk
[05:11] <ShadowKnight> hey paultag, it doesnt display the error message anymore but now it says
[05:11] <ShadowKnight> FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted. in a terminal screen.
[05:11] <paultag> Woo!!!!!
[05:12] <paultag> ShadowKnight, that's awesome, congrats, it works :)
[05:12] <paultag> ShadowKnight, just open up the manager and set a CD to put in the CDROM drive
[05:12] <paultag> ShadowKnight, you can use an ISO for that, then install to the HD :)
[05:14] <ShadowKnight1> hey paultag, thanks ill go try that right now :)
[05:14] <paultag> ShadowKnight1, congrats, you bested me :)
[05:15] <paultag> you beat me too it, outstanding show :)
[05:15] <ShadowKnight1> paultag, thank you. i had your help i owe you a lot :)
[05:15] <paultag> ShadowKnight1, Nah, great work
[05:19] <ShadowKnight1> paultag, im so sorry lol but idk how to make a new HD for it, i have been looking and and the only thing i find is to make a new .vdi
[05:19] <paultag> ShadowKnight1, that's what you want
[05:19] <paultag> ShadowKnight1, just open up the manager and create a new drive, and set the new machine to that HD
[05:20] <ShadowKnight1> that one to be the primary master?
[05:21] <paultag> aye
[05:22] <ShadowKnight1> okay, so the original one i made is the primary slave then?
[08:53] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[08:54] <st4aluck> ~$ /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose This CPU has nx in the flags, so the BIOS is not disabling it.
[09:20] <st4aluck> Pls help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[10:22] <man0riaX> Morning
[15:48] <LzrdKing> i'm here to help, if i can
[15:48] <rajagenupula> i am a new one how can i learn ubuntu effectively?
[15:49] <rajagenupula> :)
[15:49] <rajagenupula> hello anyone plz
[15:50] <rajagenupula> give me the start point
[15:50] <LzrdKing> i'm sure there a books you can read
[15:50] <rajagenupula> ok
[15:51] <LzrdKing> or you can just install and play with it
[15:51] <rajagenupula> i here lucid released
[15:51] <LzrdKing> 2 weeks, april 29
[15:51] <rajagenupula> is a good one
[15:51] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: Download ubuntu manual beta from ubuntu-manual.org if you want to learn ubuntu 10.04 (which is not yet released)
[15:51] <rajagenupula> ?
[15:52] <rajagenupula> ok
[15:52] <rajagenupula> thank you
[15:52] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: if you want to learn 9.10 then try out ubuntupocketguide.com
[15:52] <rajagenupula> i have learned some concepts in this like how to install and update
[15:53] <rajagenupula> i am still fail while installing from tar
[15:55] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: install the package build-essential using synaptics
[15:55] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: then just unpack the tar
[15:55] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: cd into it from the command line
[15:55] <rajagenupula> i have install that from sudo apt-get install build-essentila
[15:55] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: and type the following command exactly:- ./configure && make && sudo make install
[15:55] <melm> how can i stor my downloaded programmes in usb to install them on other pc
[15:55] <melm> ?
[15:56] <bilalakhtar> melm: programs downloaded using what?
[15:56] <bilalakhtar> melm: I think for this purpose you should install aptoncd
[15:56] <bilalakhtar> melm: it will help you a lot
[15:56] <bilalakhtar> melm: install aptoncd from synaptic
[15:56] <rajagenupula> malm saying that after downloading from sudo he wants to save the dump
[15:57] <bilalakhtar> melm: yes for that he needs aptoncd i got it
[15:57] <melm> ok
[15:57] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: so you installed build-essential?
[15:58] <duanedesign> rajagenupula: the ubuntu dos are helpfull as well for learning your way around current releases. https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[15:58] <rajagenupula> yes i have
[15:58] <rajagenupula> ok
[15:59] <rajagenupula> that ./configure and ,make all done from the client or the user
[15:59] <rajagenupula> i mean root or user
[16:01] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: do ./configure and make as your own user
[16:01] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: then when you do sudo make install root is used
[16:01] <bilalakhtar> rajagenupula: then when you do 'sudo make install' root is used
[16:02] <rajagenupula> bilalakhtar don't mind may i take ur messanger id and if have any problem then i will send u
[16:02] <rajagenupula> ok
[16:02] <bilalakhtar> bilalakhtar: ok take by yahoo id bilalakhtar96@yahoo.com
[16:02] <bilalakhtar> and password ****************************** lol
[16:03] <rajagenupula> hahaha
[19:27] <leoquant> /disconnect/quit
[19:28] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was trying to install virtual box yesterday  but i still cant get it to get a bootable medium, is there anything i can do about that? i have tried a lot of different things and nothing works so far
[19:45] <ShadowKnight> does anybody know why?
[19:45] <Raidsong> is the computer on?
[19:47] <ShadowKnight> yea i have it on i am using virtualbox for windows 7 but it says fatal: bootable medium something something
[19:47] <Raidsong> is your windows 7 a legit copy?
[19:48] <ShadowKnight> yea but does that have anything to do with virtualbox on linux? o_O
[19:48] <Raidsong> if your copy of the OS is no good it wont work
[19:49] <Raidsong> did you check the md5sum on the file?
[19:49] <ShadowKnight> no i wouldnt know how to check that actually.
[19:49] <ShadowKnight> so virtualbox is linked to your os? what about if you just have linux by itself installed? how would that work?
[19:51] <Raidsong> vbox runs the os in a virtual computer the base os has little effect on this
[19:51] <ShadowKnight> oh okay then so how would the windows 7 legit thing work in this case when im trying to run virtualbox in linux to emulate windows 7?
[19:52] <Raidsong> well if your copy of windows 7 doesnt work, it wont work
[19:54] <Raidsong> is it a .iso?
[19:54] <ShadowKnight> so is there anything i can do about that?
[19:54] <ShadowKnight> yea it should be, imma try to redo everything right now i think cause this is really weird to me.
[19:54] <Raidsong> you should double check to see if the image is good
[19:56] <ShadowKnight> okay ill be back in a bit thanks raidsong
[19:57] <krish-1> no videos is running on youtube plz help
[19:58] <pedro3005> krish-1, have you installed flash?
[19:58] <krish-1> u mean adobeflash
[19:59] <pedro3005> krish-1, have you installed any flash, adobe or not?
[19:59] <krish-1> no i dint
[20:00] <pedro3005> krish-1, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:00] <krish-1> 9.04
[20:00] <pedro3005> krish-1, ok, click Applications -> Add/Remove
[20:01] <pedro3005> Found it?
[20:01] <krish-1> done den
[20:01] <pedro3005> krish-1, search for 'ubuntu restricted extras'
[20:02] <pedro3005> got it?
[20:02] <krish-1> ya
[20:02] <pedro3005> krish-1, install it
[20:03] <krish-1> ya i installed
[20:03] <pedro3005> krish-1, has it finished already?
[20:04] <krish-1> 1 min
[20:04] <krish-1> finished
[20:04] <pedro3005> krish-1, alright, try restarting firefox now
[20:06] <krish-1> started
[20:06] <pedro3005> krish-1, try opening youtube
[20:07] <krish-1> opened  but no video is running
[20:09] <pedro3005> krish-1, hm.. are you sure it installed correctly?
[20:09] <pedro3005> does it report any error?
[20:28] <ShadowKnight> hey Raidsong, is there a way to do it without the iso? because it says something about creating a new hard disk and what not so i was wondering about that
[20:29] <Raidsong> i have no idea, ive never used vbox
[20:29] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay then thanks
[20:30] <pedro3005> ShadowKnight, do you have a burned CD?
[20:35] <ibuclaw> ShadowKnight, an iso of w7...
[20:36] <Raidsong> ibuclaw, its legit though
[20:37] <ibuclaw> legit != legally acquired.
[20:38] <Raidsong> it was legally acquired
[20:38] <Raidsong> he assured me so
[20:38] <ibuclaw> now last time I checked (being an MCP) - Microsoft only supply trial versions via the mcp site
[20:39] <Raidsong> ibuclaw, what are you trying to say?
[20:41] <pedro3005> denying someone help just because they supposedly acquired it illegally (with emphasis on supposedly) does not demote piracy
[20:42] <swoody> and I wouldn't jump to conclusions. My school offers W7 Pro for free, and you can download it as an .iso and burn it yourself :)
[20:43] <Raidsong> see
[20:43] <Raidsong> its not what you know its what you can prove
[20:45] <ibuclaw> Raidsong, what I'm saying is - this is the only legal version of the W7 iso you can get. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc442495.aspx
[20:45] <ibuclaw> true on school volume licenses though...
[20:46] <Raidsong> perhaps hes friends with somebody who works for microsoft
[20:47] <ibuclaw> am not sure on isos though (although - am not a MCT ... but knowing one - he downloaded gigabytes of images onto his server)
[20:47] <pedro3005> ibuclaw, innocent until proven guilty!
[20:48] <ibuclaw> bleh
[20:49] <Raidsong> yea lets say he got it from a school
[20:49] <ibuclaw> in any case he's probably being a dumbass and not loading the iso as a cdrom
[20:50] <ibuclaw> "fatal: no bootable medium found" being round abouts the message emitted when the vbox BIOS can't find anyhting to boot from
[20:51] <pedro3005> ibuclaw, no need for disrespect
[20:53] <Raidsong> ...shadowknight left a long time ago
[21:24] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I need help installing my printer/scanner
[21:26] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, what's the model?
[21:27] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> brother MFC-255CW
[21:28] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, have you checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1256630 ?
[21:40] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> will this work for wireless
[21:41] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, probably
[21:42] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> is there a easier way to install it
[21:43] <ibuclaw> ZeRoDeAtH50435, Only installation via the command line interface (terminal) is supported.
[21:44] <ibuclaw> You can have a look at their website - http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html
[21:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> had can I install i386 architecture
[21:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how
[21:48] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, it's explained in that tutorial, just ignore things about 64 bits
[21:48] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I am running 64bit
[21:49] <pedro3005> oh
[21:49] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, so don't ignore things about 64 bits
[21:49] <pedro3005> :P
[21:50] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> well there is something I want to try and I do not know the command that lets you install i386 architecture
[21:51] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, oh, I think what you want is
[21:51] <pedro3005> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture pkg.deb
[21:52] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> doesnt work
[21:52] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, well, what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:53] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I have the drivers that I need but there are for i386 and I cant install them
[21:54] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, they are .deb's?
[21:54] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yes
[21:55] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, and you did substitute pkg.deb with their proper names?
[21:55] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[21:55] <pedro3005> well
[21:55] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, do you know how?
[21:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> change the pkg.deb to the name of the file
[21:56] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, did that work?
[21:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> trying it now
[21:57] <digevol> hey all.  when someone gets a chance, I am trying to get an Intel Corp 82801DB Pro/100 VE Ethernet Controller (rev 81) setup and online on ubuntu 9.10
[21:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no it did not work
[21:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> my not have put it in right
[21:59] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, are you sure you are in the correct directory?
[21:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah that might be why
[21:59] <pedro3005> digevol, so it's a wired connection?
[22:01] <digevol> yes it is
[22:02] <pedro3005> digevol, what's the output of ifconfig?
[22:03] <digevol> im on a mac sitting next to the linux box, any lines you prefer me to write out?
[22:04] <pedro3005> digevol, are there a lot of lines?
[22:04] <digevol> RX packets: 7783 errorrs: 0 dropped: 0 overruns 0 frame: 0
[22:04] <digevol> eth0 and lo
[22:04] <digevol> under each sectin theres a bit of info
[22:05] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah Im not getting any where
[22:05] <pedro3005> digevol, does eth0 has an IP address somewhere?
[22:05] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, where are the drivers located?
[22:05] <digevol> im not seeing a standard external or internal ip.. i see what looks to be MAC addresses, but no 192's or other ips
[22:06] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> downloads file
[22:06] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, the absolute path
[22:06] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ?
[22:06] <digevol> im showing an Ethernet HWaddr and inet6 addr
[22:06] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> it in my home file
[22:07] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, can you see the files with 'ls'?
[22:07] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> what do you mean
[22:07] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, run ls on a terminal
[22:08] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yes
[22:08] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, you see the files?
[22:09] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yes
[22:09] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, what are their names?
[22:10] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> mfc255cwlpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb & mfc255cwcupswrapper-1.1.2-2.i386.deb
[22:11] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, run:
[22:11] <pedro3005> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture mfc255cwlpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb
[22:13] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> http://pastebin.com/hHkph4ZS
[22:16] <digevol> pedro3005, you look to be a smart yet busy guy, does anyone else know where I might be able to find some further information, any other channels i should look into?
[22:17] <pedro3005> digevol, oh, don't mistake me for smart :p you can try your luck on #ubuntu or the forums (ubuntuforums.org).. or someone here who knows more than me (anyone)
[22:18] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, what's the output of 'ls /var/spool' ?
[22:20] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anacron  cron  cups  mail  openoffice  plymouth
[22:22] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, run?
[22:22] <pedro3005> run:
[22:22] <pedro3005> sudo apt-get -y install lib32stdc++6
[22:23] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its running
[22:24] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok its done
[22:25] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, now:
[22:25] <pedro3005> sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/MFC-665CW
[22:26] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok
[22:26] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, then
[22:27] <pedro3005> sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/model
[22:27] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, run this one:
[22:28] <pedro3005> sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/MFC-255CW
[22:28] <pedro3005> and then:
[22:28] <pedro3005> sudo rm /usr/share/cups/MFC-665CW -r
[22:28] <pedro3005> ^ carefully though, don't wanna mistype anything
[22:29] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah, done
[22:30] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, try
[22:30] <pedro3005> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture mfc255cwlpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb
[22:30] <pedro3005> again
[22:31] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> same as before
[22:33] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, try this:
[22:33] <pedro3005> sudo apt-get install lpr
[22:33] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> that worked
[22:34] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok its done
[22:34] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, did it finish?
[22:34] <pedro3005> ok
[22:34] <pedro3005> now, try again?
[22:34] <pedro3005> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture mfc255cwlpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb
[22:34] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> worked and done
[22:35] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, now try:
[22:35] <pedro3005> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture mfc255cwcupswrapper-1.1.2-2.i386.deb
[22:36] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its working
[22:37] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its done
[22:38] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, try printing now..
[22:39] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> nope nothing
[22:42] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> still has not printed anything
[22:43] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, does it detect the printer?
[22:43] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yes
[22:44] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, can you see it in System > Administration > Printing ?
[22:44] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yes
[22:45] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, right click and then click properties (on the printer)
[22:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok
[22:46] <pedro3005> nothing if you click Print Test Page?
[22:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[22:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> i know what it is
[22:46] <pedro3005> hm?
[22:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> the device URL: usb:/dev/usb/lp0 its wireless
[22:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> that has to be changed for the network i think
[22:47] <pedro3005> indeed
[22:48] <ZeRoDeAtH50435>  how would I go about doing that
[22:49] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, do you know the printer's IP?
[22:50] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[22:50] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ssid right
[22:50] <pedro3005> huh?
[22:51] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> MAC address
[22:53] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, try accessing your router's configuration page and finding out all the network's ips
[22:53] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok got ip address
[22:54] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, what is it?
[22:55] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 010.000.000.004
[22:55] <pedro3005> uhh
[22:55] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> thats what it is on the printer itself
[22:56] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, well, just to be sure, run this on a terminal:
[22:56] <pedro3005> ping 010.000.000.004
[22:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its doing something
[22:57] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, tell me what it's saying
[22:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> PING 010.000.000.004 (8.0.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
[22:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> is all right now
[22:57] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, then what next?
[22:57] <pedro3005> does it say anything else?
[22:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> not yet still waiting
[22:58] <pedro3005> yep
[22:58] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, your printer isn't connecting to the network
[22:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ?
[22:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> to my computer
[22:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> it works fine on the other computer running windows
[23:00] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, oh ok, that helps
[23:00] <pedro3005> so there's a technique
[23:00] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, on the windows machine, go to the control panel
[23:00] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah I know its connected
[23:00] <pedro3005> open Printers and Faxes
[23:00] <pedro3005> right click on the printer, select properties
[23:00] <pedro3005> click the "Ports" tab
[23:01] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok its slow had to run some updates
[23:01] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, can you see the printer's IP there?
[23:02] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[23:02] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, what do you see there?
[23:04] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> LPT1-3, COM1-4, FILE, USB DOT BR SEN NUa
[23:04] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, yeah, try widening the LPT1-3 column
[23:04] <pedro3005> whatever that means
[23:08] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> problem
[23:09] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, what?
[23:10] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> what I tried to test print it didnt
[23:10] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, on windows?
[23:16] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah
[23:16] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its says that its offline
[23:17] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, see, it isn't connecting to the network
[23:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah it isnt
[23:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> but its connect
[23:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ed
[23:17] <pedro3005> but it isn't
[23:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah
[23:18] <pedro3005> ZeRoDeAtH50435, try restarting it etc
[23:18] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> did
[23:18] <pedro3005> success?
[23:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ?
[23:20] <pedro3005> did it work?
[23:27] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[23:30] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> sorry about that
[23:38] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> still off line
[23:45] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I think I know what the problem is