[00:03] <kai^sds> for the record: my bug had already been reported as #548652
[00:53] <ddecator> i tried to add my bugday to the fridge calendar, but it won't let me login o.o
[00:56] <micahg> ddecator: you don't log in, and why should it go on the fridge calendar?
[00:57] <ddecator> micahg: that's what it says to do on the wiki, haha
[00:57] <micahg> ddecator: fridge calendar or fridge post?
[00:58] <ddecator> micahg: at the bottom of the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Organizing
[01:00] <micahg> ddecator: the wiki instructions say how to add a calendar, you have to follow the link
[01:01] <ddecator> micahg: i did, then when trying to login, i can't, it just refreshes the page
[01:01] <micahg> ddecator: login where?
[01:01] <micahg> ddecator: you log into your own google account
[01:02] <ddecator> ok, i think i get what i need to do now..
[03:59] <Damascene> any one know about this?
[03:59] <Damascene> http://uppix.net/8/d/6/2fb857359fee9b0fcaf988d043f09.png
[03:59] <Damascene> text is showing as ???? for Arabic files from windows user
[03:59] <Damascene> Arabic files name
[05:23] <Damascene> every time I start my system it needs to report kernel problem
[05:23] <Damascene> any way when I try to do so it takes ages to upload the report
[08:43] <BUGabundo_remote> the tuggs say Hi
[09:17] <jibel> vish, hey,
[09:19] <jibel> vish, you've set bug 529847 as dup of 52630 but I think they are different.
[09:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 529847 in synaptic (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Reload Package prompt gives up when another Synaptic is running (dup-of: 52630)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529847
[09:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 52630 in synaptic (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Retry option for database lock situations (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52630
[09:34] <vish> oh , he's not here..
[09:36] <BUGabundo_remote> ZOMG SO TRUE http://xkcd.com/727/
[09:36] <BUGabundo_remote> hi vish
[09:36] <BUGabundo_remote> saw my last batch of photos
[09:36] <BUGabundo_remote> ?
[09:37] <vish> BUGabundo_remote: hey,  which ones?
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> from last weekend
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> last days of vacations
[09:40] <alvin> I want to file a bug against the upgrade to Lucid. (Lucid changes lvm fstab entries to UUID) Against what package do I file it?
[09:41] <persia> I've had boot work with UUID LVM entries, although I agree it's less intuitive.  Are you sure it's really a bug?
[09:41] <alvin> Yes, because snapshots have the same UUID as their parent. I ended up with a snapshot of /home mounted on /home
[09:42] <persia> Oh, good point.  I don't happen to snapshot any of my boot-essential drives.
[09:42] <alvin> I needed to remove all snapshots in order to boot properly.
[09:42] <persia> Or edit /etc/fstab
[09:42] <alvin> Well, a snapshot of /root could come in handy sometimes. Previously, fstab entries where changed to UUID, except for LVM. I don't know why that changed.
[09:42] <vish> jibel_: hi.. 529847 starts off and title probably needs an update but the reporter wants a retry button essentially
[09:43] <alvin> So, what package is responsible?
[09:43]  * persia is looking
[09:43] <vish> starts off differently*
[09:43] <persia> I don't think it's just lucid though.  I think that happened to me for a jaunty->karmic upgrade as well.
[09:44] <alvin> On a fresh install of karmic /dev/mapper/... is used. I'm sure about that. Let me check a Jaunty
[09:45] <alvin> Hmm, you are right. Fresh install is /dev/mapper. Upgrade (also to Jaunty) changes to UUID
[09:46] <persia> So it's just a general bug, rather than an upgrade bug.
[09:46] <alvin> Yes, then this must have been the first time I upgraded a system with existing snapshots
[09:46] <persia> Unfortunately grep -n fstab /var/lib/dpkg/info/* didn't show me anything that looked like a postinst that would be doing that.
[09:47] <persia> So I've no idea which package needs fixing.  I'd definitely like to "me too" the bug though: it's annoying to try to figure out what is where by UUID when I'm using LVM anyway.
[09:49] <alvin> There is a bit more. (in Lucid), after I changed the entry for /home to /dev/mapper. First, /home can not be mounted, so you go into a recovery shell and type # mount /home. THen you get: mount: special device /dev/mapper/vg0-home does not exist. Then I did lvremove volumegroup/snapshotofhome. Then mount /home and voila. /home is mounted by mapper.
[09:50] <alvin> So, if there is a snapshot, the parent directory is not even found by mountall. This is probably another bug, so I'll file separately.
[09:50] <persia> Try booting into the initramfs (break=preinit I think), and see if `vgchange -a y` adds the correct entries to /dev/mapper
[09:50] <alvin> ok, I'll make a snapshot and reboot
[09:50]  * persia has two lucid systems with LVM: one boots fine, the other consistently fails to set up the /dev/mapper entries
[09:51] <alvin> There's also bug 527666 and bug 557909 if you have +4 lvm volumes
[09:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 527666 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Waiting for /some/partition [SM] (affects: 26) (dups: 2)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527666
[09:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 557909 in devmapper (Ubuntu) "lucid hangs on boot because of device ownership (affects: 6) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557909
[09:53] <persia> I don't have an issue with 527666, and I have 12 volumes.
[09:53] <alvin> And are the permissions on /dev/mapper/ good?
[09:55] <persia> I have a mix of root.root and root.disk for reasons I don't entirely understand.
[09:56] <persia> And some things are just confusing.  I have a volume I use as a clean chroot for lucid/amd64 which is root.disk and another which I use as a clean chroot for lucid/i386 (created within a few seconds of the other) which is root.root.
[09:56] <alvin> That's the last bug. In Karmic, the group is always disk. In Lucid, volumes with group disk do not get mounted
[09:56] <persia> My swap is root.disk and gets used (I'm not sure "mount" is the correct term)
[09:57] <persia> Actually, my / is root.disk, and that definitely gets mounted.
[09:57] <alvin> Hmm, the new snapshot has 'disk', while the original /home has root. It does get mounted. But now /opt has disk and blocks the boot
[09:57] <alvin> Oh?
[09:57] <alvin> Tricky...
[09:57] <persia> I don't think it's the permissions.  I think it's something more subtle.
[09:58] <alvin> If it's not the permissions, it's the first bug 527666, but that one should be fixed. I always have a drive that can't get mounted, but it's not always the same.
[09:58] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 527666 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Waiting for /some/partition [SM] (affects: 26) (dups: 2)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527666
[09:58] <alvin> Now it's /opt again
[09:59] <jibel_> vish, but the fixes are different, that's why I would keep 2 different reports.
[09:59] <alvin> ah, after a new reboot, now my snapshot of /home is again mounted on /home
[09:59] <jibel_> vish, and a reload button is not the solution for 529847. We'd better try to reuse the running instance of synaptic.
[09:59] <alvin> So, the bug is reproducible if you reboot enough
[10:00] <persia> alvin: Except, like I said, I have >10 volumes and have never encountered it.  This is on my laptop, which is probably my most frequently rebooted device (certainly more than any of my servers or my handheld)
[10:00] <alvin> Yes, we have to find out what the difference is here.
[10:02] <alvin> This reboot I have 2 volumes that don't get mounted , but this time, the right /home is mounted.
[10:02] <alvin> i'll start out by filing the UUID bug, but I'm still not sure against what package.
[10:03] <vish> jibel_: not the reload button , he mentions "retry option" to reload , this will allow him to close synaptic running already and retry the reload from the sources dialogue..
[10:04] <jibel_> vish, yep "retry"
[10:04] <alvin> Ah, more information. If I remove the snapshot, all filesystems are mounted at boot. persia, would you like to try this? Take a snapshot of one of your filesystems and reboot?
[10:04] <vish> jibel_: but I not sure what you meant though , feel free to undup it if you want to dealt separately  :)
[10:04] <vish> s/to/it
[10:04] <persia> alvin: Erm, let me get to a good point to reboot first, but sure :)
[10:05] <alvin> persia: Thanks. I'll be here all day (quasselcore)
[10:08] <jibel_> vish, that's the point: do not close the close the running synaptic but reuse it instead.
[10:08] <jibel_> vish, thanks for your help on triaging synaptic's reports ;)
[10:11] <vish> :)
[10:11] <vish> jibel_: thats a nice idea , unduping it
[15:12] <alvin> persia: You might want to wait with the reboot. Meanwhile, I did a fresh install of Lucid server (daily)
[15:13] <alvin> Everything is fine, as long as you don't create an lvm snapshot. This time I got the grub rescue shell and needed the cd to delete the snapshot in order to boot again.
[15:13] <persia> alvin: How long should I wait?  I'm down to about 4 things to clear before I can reboot, but once I get away from the reboot goal, the list grows again :)
[15:14] <alvin> while I found another bug. You know the ubuntu-server team has taken the sensible decision to make boot messages visible? Well, errors (and plymouth's suggestions) are not visible.
[15:14] <persia> You should be able to boot in rescue mode (hold down the shift key while booting), and remove the snapshot from the initramfs
[15:14] <persia> That's a bug in the plymouth theme: which theme are you using?
[15:14] <alvin> persia: No, holding shift didn't work. I got: "Grub loading, and then immediately fd0 not found, disk not found, grub rescue>
[15:15] <alvin> no team. it's ubuntu-server (see bug 548954)
[15:15] <persia> Oh, you have a snapshot of /boot?
[15:15] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 548954 in upstart (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 7 other projects) "Ubuntu servers should display information during boot by default (affects: 22) (dups: 2) (heat: 144)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/548954
[15:15] <alvin> No, a snapshot of some empty lvm volume I created
[15:15] <persia> Ubuntu server had better have a plymouth theme installed, even if just the text theme, or boot gets annoying.
[15:16] <persia> My servers has it, but it's an upgrade, so I'm unsure how that changes things.
[15:16] <alvin> That wouldn't be nice to people with some intel cards. A lot of servers have those and they show blank screens with a framebuffer or so I'm told.
[15:17] <alvin> Unless you are willing to take the risk and make a snapshot, I would use a spare machine. You can, however, use the cd to enter the root shell and remove the snapshot without touching the rest of your system.
[15:24] <persia> You don't need to use framebuffer.  THere's a text theme that just does text.
[15:24] <persia> I'd expect it to work on a console.
[15:25] <gnomefreak> anyone having issues with 2.6.32-20-generic+nvidia+latest gdm? i see plymouth but it never makes it to GDM restarting gdm does not work
[15:26] <micahg> gnomefreak: there were some problems with the first -20
[15:26] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks
[15:26] <micahg> gnomefreak: is it 20.29 or 20.30?
[15:26] <persia> Those were with ACPI, and mostly affected thinkpads though.
[15:26] <gnomefreak> not sure im not on it
[15:30] <ZykoticK9> vish, regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/561667 Chromium is included in the default Lucid install, and adding a single sentence to a package description which improves usability seem to me (perhaps incorrectly) like a "paper cut"
[15:31] <vish> ZykoticK9: you mean in the software store?
[15:31] <maco> it is?
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> vish, sorry not "default Lucid install" but "default Lucid repository"
[15:31] <vish> err... center
[15:31] <maco> ah ok
[15:32] <alvin> persia: I can confirm that Lucid, installed from cd lists /dev/mapper in fstab for lvm volumes, as it should be. So, it's only on upgrade that this goes wrong
[15:32] <maco> i was like "huhh?? no irefox?"
[15:32] <maco> *fire
[15:32] <ZykoticK9> sorry maco - wrong wording
[15:32] <vish> ZykoticK9: ah well , that would be just a bug in the dev release of software center, we usually dont do papercut for those too
[15:32] <persia> alvin: That matches my experience.  Did you already file this bug, or are you waiting for a package hint?
[15:33] <alvin> Waiting for the package hint actually. I have no idea what's responsible for adapting existing stuff during upgrade
[15:33] <ZykoticK9> vish, i certainly bow you your expertise in these matters (but this seems like such an easy thing to solve)
[15:33] <persia> vish: Extending papercuts also to dev releases ought result in more polished stuff on release, no?
[15:34] <persia> alvin: There's a meeting on now, but may as well ask in #ubuntu-server come the turn of the hour.
[15:34] <alvin> persia: A meeting of the server team?
[15:34] <vish> ZykoticK9: persia: then every little bug became a papercut , that was why we didnt want to include dev release bugs
[15:35] <persia> vish: Fair: still good to highlight little easy-to-fix stuff.  Lots of stuff isn't easy to fix, and can wait.
[15:35] <persia> alvin: Yep.
[15:35] <gnomefreak> micahg: linux-image-2. 2.6.32-20.30
[15:36] <alvin> persia: So, I should ask afterwards? (just informing about the protocol here)
[15:36] <ZykoticK9> vish, it certainly wasn't myself who added it to papercuts and i was unaware that papercuts don't apply to Dev releases - so sorry for bothering you with this :)  Thanks everyone in bug-squad
[15:36] <micahg> gnomefreak: hmmm, weird, anyways, I didn't reboot with -20 and am waiting for --21 to push through archvie
[15:36] <persia> alvin: I usually find team members have more time after a meeting ends then when I ask for stuff when they are in a meeting :)
[15:36] <alvin> Good point
[15:37] <vish> ZykoticK9: no worries
[15:37] <vish> ZykoticK9: persia: i agree it is easy to fix , hence i mentioned "nice catch" :)
[15:37] <persia> vish: Indeed :)
[16:02] <Damascene> Hi,
[16:02] <Damascene> some one said "on aime bien avoir une selition" on a bug
[16:02] <Damascene> what does that mean?
[16:03] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/562130
[16:03] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 562130 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Selecting an RTL language should install and RTL capable terminal emulator (affects: 21) (heat: 98)" [Low,Triaged]
[16:04] <jibel_> Damascene, even in french it doesn't mean anything.
[16:04] <Damascene> :D
[16:04] <Damascene> so it's spam?
[16:06] <jibel_> no, I don't think so. rather someone lost in life.
[16:23] <micahg> plars: please note in bug next time there's no private info so as not to scare the rest of us :)
[16:24] <plars> micahg: np, I probably should have noted it but I figured it was obvious since I did it *right* after opening it and I was also the submitter :)
[16:24] <micahg> plars: I saw that, but wasn't sure
[16:25] <micahg> plars: anyways, retracer is done :)
[16:25] <plars> micahg: oh it worked this time? yay!
[16:25] <plars> :)
[16:26] <plars> let's see if it actually got anything useful though
[16:26] <micahg> plars: what version of TB?
[16:26] <plars> 3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[16:27] <plars> nope :(
[16:27] <plars> figures
[16:27] <micahg> plars: it's already being addresses upstream: mozilla 532198
[16:27] <ubot4`> Mozilla bug 532198 in XPCOM "Fix NS_InvokeByIndex() to use BLX for method invocations when compiling for Thumb" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532198
[16:27] <plars> micahg: cool
[16:28] <micahg> plars: we actually have a fix in Firefox already I think
[16:29] <plars> I figured it was likely to be another thumb2 porting issue
[16:29] <micahg> yep, let me see iff we can throw it on Thunderbird
[16:30] <micahg> plars: I'll try to get it added in today
[16:31] <plars> micahg: you rock, thanks!
[16:31] <micahg> plars: np
[16:38] <alvin> persia: reported as bug 563117
[16:38] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 563117 in mountall (Ubuntu) "Release upgrade converts /dev/mapper entries in /etc/fstab to UUID (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563117
[16:38] <persia> Hah.  mountall.
[16:38]  * persia "mee too"s
[16:49] <micahg> yofel: shouldn't apport have a saner message if the package is just old?
[16:50] <Damascene> any one having problem with wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[16:51] <yofel> well, might be, but the way it does the genuine package test right now it can't differentiate between "not in the archive anymore" and "was  never in the archive"
[16:52] <yofel> as apt-cache policy linux-image... will not return a valid archive link
[16:53] <micahg> yofel: can we just change the message to say no genuine or has been superseded in archive?
[16:53] <micahg> yofel: and maybe also say please try to reproduce (if possible) with latest package version in archive?
[16:54] <yofel> hm, that might be a good idea, but you should rather talk to pitti about this
[16:55] <Damascene> yofel, hi, you are the ubuntu-bug maintainer?
[16:56] <yofel> Damascene: no, if anything I know a bit more about it than others and I'm responsible for ubuntu-bugs bash completion
[16:57] <yofel> the only maintainer I know is Martin Pitt (pitti in #ubuntu-devel)
[16:57] <Damascene> oh, I thought you can change the text as mich-g asked
[17:00] <micahg> yofel: I'll talk to him later
[17:18] <Damascene> is the --(stroke)-- broken on ubuntu wiki?
[17:18] <Damascene> I don't get that effect at all
[17:18] <Damascene> I even didn't find how to sign
[18:49] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/562130
[18:49] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 562130 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Selecting an RTL language should install and RTL capable terminal emulator (affects: 24) (heat: 106)" [Low,Triaged]
[18:49] <Damascene> what should I do now?
[19:07] <Sabre_Edge> Hi I am having this bug with playonlinux Bug #534780, what can i do to resolve this issue (using ubuntu 10.04 beta 2)?
[19:07] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 534780 in playonlinux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "app seems to crash after selection of an entry-confirmation (affects: 4) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534780
[19:12] <Sabre_Edge> anyone ?
[19:51] <JoshuaL> my system doesnt want to sleep, it goes black and the system wont respond, how can i report this bug?
[20:48] <mars> Hi everyone.  I have a bug where the Gnome Screen Unlock dialog shows for a second, then the whole monitor goes black.  I need to switch terminals to get the display to restore itself.  What package should I file the bug against?
[20:48] <yofel> does anyone know if software center hardcodes button text colors on the info pages? http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/software-center.png That black box should have a black button that says "Remove", but you can't read it
[20:49] <yofel> oddly enough the buttons in the menus aren't affected, only the description pages http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/software-center1.png
[20:50] <atrus> mars: what do you have to do to restore the display?
[20:50] <mars> atrus, Ctrl-F1, Ctrl-F7
[20:51] <atrus> mars: and after that it was okay?
[20:51] <mars> yes
[20:51] <atrus> my first guess would be to file against your video card driver
[20:51] <mars> atrus, sorry, Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F7
[20:51] <mars> atrus, ugh, nvidia here :(
[20:52] <mars> atrus, ok, thank you for the help
[21:43] <BUGabundo> evening 'p
[21:51] <sandberg> I'm trying to debug bug #423252, but gdb chokes when the nss-ldap module is invoked. Anyone got any sugestions about alternative debuggers?
[21:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 423252 in sudo (Kairos Linux) (and 10 other projects) "NSS using LDAP on Karmic breaks 'su' and 'sudo' (affects: 25) (heat: 198)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423252
[21:53] <sandberg> I'd really like to get a stack trace of my test application when something calls __nptl_setxid...
[22:02] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: evening
[22:03] <BUGabundo> hey ben
[22:45] <hggdh> seb128: is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApportRetrace good for you?
[22:48] <hggdh> argh, wiki.ubuntu.com is misbehaving today...
[22:50] <seb128> hggdh, "The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."...
[22:50] <seb128> hggdh, will comment when I get it ;-)
[22:50] <yofel> actually I got one 500 and 2 503 errors in the last hour
[22:50] <hggdh> seb128: yes, I am trying to save the last update, and failing
[22:50] <hggdh> yofel: at least I only get this one
[22:57] <W3ird_N3rd> Hope I'm in the right channel. I think the netboot ISO is broken again. one or two days ago it couldn't finish because seemlingly no mirror had kernel modules, today no IP can be obtained using DHCP
[22:57] <W3ird_N3rd> I am using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[22:57] <W3ird_N3rd> the mini.iso
[22:59] <W3ird_N3rd> or should I ask in ubuntu-devel?
[23:18] <jibel_> Am I right if I affect bug 557023 to casper ?
[23:18] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 557023 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory (affects: 11) (dups: 10) (heat: 120)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557023
[23:19] <plars> micahg: thanks for getting that thunderbird fix in before freeze :) Now I just need to test again
[23:19] <micahg> plars: that would be great :)
[23:20]  * micahg really needs to clean up bugs next month
[23:20] <micahg> plars: won't build for another 10 hrs
[23:24] <hggdh> seb128: new page name: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingWithApportRetrace
[23:27] <BUGabundo> Bug 563425
[23:27] <BUGabundo> bug #563425
[23:27] <ubot4`> BUGabundo: Bug 563425 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/563425 is private
[23:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 563425 in linux (Ubuntu) "9.10 64bits shows only 3gb ram (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563425
[23:28] <BUGabundo> apw: can you take a quick peak at it? trying to help an user out
[23:28] <bdmurray> micahg: can you elaborate on bug 560563?
[23:28] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 560563 in ubuntu-qa-website "package status updates stopped on 2010-04-09 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560563
[23:29] <micahg> bdmurray: fixed already, the counts on the left side were not being updated
[23:30] <bdmurray> micahg: okay great!
[23:57] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: lots of bios related messages - has he tried to update it?
[23:57] <BUGabundo> he says toshiba has no newer bios
[23:58] <kklimonda> heh
[23:59] <BUGabundo> can you past the link back?
[23:59] <BUGabundo> I have no log, since my disk was in RO
[23:59] <BUGabundo> had to reboot to liveusb and fsck
[23:59] <BUGabundo> :(