| akgraner | apw, getting ready to look at the kernel now - I had a talk tonight 6 hour drive round trip and the meeting lasted 2.5 hours :-( | 04:56 |
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| jjohansen | ouch | 04:57 |
| EruditeHermit | hello, is there a way to build kernels and only have make build modules that have changed/been patched? | 05:59 |
| EruditeHermit | I am currently using these instructions | 06:03 |
| EruditeHermit | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild | 06:03 |
| EruditeHermit | is there a better way? | 06:03 |
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| akgraner | apw, ping | 09:27 |
| apw | akgraner, hi | 09:29 |
| akgraner | so I installed the Kernel and haven't had any heat issues | 09:30 |
| akgraner | is there anything you need me to run to stress the CPU more - I have noticed though I don't hear the fans as much but that could just be me | 09:31 |
| apw | if your tem stays arround 45 then all is good | 09:33 |
| apw | though that patch still breaks mac books, so we still don't have it in the lucid kernel ... grrr | 09:33 |
| akgraner | apw, alrighty - I'll keep my eyes open and watch that - but I haven't gotten above 48 in the last few hours | 09:37 |
| apw | akgraner, perfect thanks ... i'll let you know when i have something more to test, likely after freeze now | 09:38 |
| apw | and we'll have to ram the fix through the freeze if we are allowed | 09:38 |
| akgraner | apw cool - just let me know what if anything you will need from me :-) I help where I can! Thanks again!! | 09:40 |
| mdz | JFo: I have confirmed bug 535315, which seems to have a stack of duplicates | 10:35 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 535315 in linux "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/net/sched/sch_generic.c:261 dev_watchdog+0x262/0x270()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535315 | 10:35 |
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| JFo | mdz, thanks :) | 13:38 |
| JFo | I have seen several similar ones with a lot of duplicates too | 13:39 |
| JFo | one in particular from the last 48 hours is an ath9k issue | 13:39 |
| JFo | it is now on my list for review | 13:41 |
| mdz | JFo: thanks | 14:29 |
| JFo | my pleasure mdz | 14:29 |
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| refic | so.. um.. where are the headers-*_all -packages from latest mainline builds? | 15:00 |
| JFo | refic, I don't know what you mean. I have just looked and they are all there | 15:06 |
| JFo | in fact, I am looking now | 15:06 |
| refic | I must be blind then | 15:08 |
| JFo | ah wait | 15:08 |
| JFo | I am misreading your statement | 15:08 |
| JFo | you are looking for the _all.deb I was thinking header...deb | 15:08 |
| JFo | sorry | 15:08 |
| refic | yeah :) | 15:08 |
| JFo | :) | 15:09 |
| refic | np, good to know I'm not blind after all | 15:09 |
| JFo | no, they are gone | 15:09 |
| JFo | apw, any reason we no longer have _all.deb in the Kernel PPA? | 15:10 |
| JFo | I vaguely recall a conversation about it, but I can't recall now the reason | 15:10 |
| JFo | bug 562742 your bug refic? | 15:12 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 562742 in linux "r8169 ethernet MAC address changes in 2.6.32 kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562742 | 15:12 |
| JFo | grrr, wrong bug number | 15:12 |
| JFo | that is what I get for trying to type it in | 15:13 |
| JFo | oh, err looking at the wrong bug too. | 15:13 |
| JFo | bug 562899 | 15:13 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 562899 in linux "linux-headers-*_all.deb is missing on latest mainline builds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562899 | 15:13 |
| JFo | that one ^ | 15:13 |
| refic | nope, just found it | 15:14 |
| JFo | iirc there was some issue building them or some such. I just can't remember | 15:15 |
| JFo | we will find out refic | 15:15 |
| refic | great, thanks | 15:16 |
| JFo | np | 15:17 |
| gnomefreak | why is it saying that "linux is not a genuine package" when i try to report a bug? | 15:20 |
| gnomefreak | Lucid | 15:21 |
| mdz | gnomefreak: I believe there are cases where that actually means "you aren't running the latest kernel" | 15:23 |
| gnomefreak | ah yes because i cant | 15:23 |
| mdz | I don't think apport can tell the difference between an obsolete package and a non-Ubuntu package | 15:23 |
| gnomefreak | 2.6.32-20-generic is broken | 15:24 |
| mdz | gnomefreak: I believe you can override it by editing the problem report in /var/crash | 15:27 |
| mdz | try deleting the UnreportableReason line | 15:27 |
| gnomefreak | mdz: thanks | 15:27 |
| mdz | JFo: it might be worth looking into the issue gnomefreak mentioned, since it's quite common with the kernel (due to its changing package name) | 15:27 |
| JFo | gnomefreak, when did you update? | 15:27 |
| JFo | mdz, I agree | 15:28 |
| JFo | I think he may be suffering from the issue we worked yesterday | 15:28 |
| gnomefreak | J a little while ago but that is first time in a week | 15:28 |
| JFo | gnomefreak, hmmm | 15:28 |
| JFo | are you able to boot at all gnomefreak? | 15:28 |
| gnomefreak | JFo: i get plymouth but gdm never loads | 15:29 |
| JFo | gnomefreak, ok, thanks | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | dumped into TTY | 15:29 |
| JFo | hmm | 15:29 |
| mdz | JFo: the problem is: user tries to boot x.y.z-2, it fails, so they boot back to x.y.z-1, and then can't report the bug | 15:32 |
| mdz | (and they get a confusing error) | 15:32 |
| gnomefreak | mdz: i dont have a crawsh report for this issue | 15:32 |
| mdz | gnomefreak: ah, of course | 15:38 |
| mdz | gnomefreak: in that case, maybe you could report the bug using a browser, and then run apport-collect to add the details | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | mdz: i will do it in a minute, thanks | 15:39 |
| JFo | mdz, I have added the kernel reporting issue to my notes for our next meeting | 15:41 |
| ogra | hmm, whats the kernel-img.conf option i need to make the kernel postinst create links in / ? | 15:41 |
| JFo | I'll bring it up before then, but we will discuss specifically at the meeting | 15:41 |
| mdz | JFo: thanks. if you can work out what the correct behavior should be, it should be possible to fix it in apport | 15:42 |
| JFo | gnomefreak, just let me know the bug number once you have it | 15:42 |
| JFo | mdz, I agree. I'll rely on ogasawara's experience with apport. i'm still new to the tool | 15:43 |
| gnomefreak | JFo: will do. you want a bug for apport reporting and the gdm not loading? | 15:44 |
| JFo | gnomefreak, actually yes, if you don't mind | 15:45 |
| gnomefreak | JFo: not at all | 15:45 |
| JFo | thanks | 15:45 |
| apw | Bug #546743 | 15:48 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 546743 in linux "Blank screen at first boot with ATI ES1000 and 10.04 server" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546743 | 15:48 |
| ogra | sigh, is there any way to tell the kernel package to not create a backup link for the old kernel ? | 15:49 |
| mdz | ogra: man kernel-img.conf | 15:50 |
| ogra | mdz, which package is that in ? i dont seem to have it | 15:50 |
| ogra | (was indeed the first i tried before asking :) ) | 15:50 |
| mjg59 | ES1000 with KMS is generally miserable | 15:50 |
| mdz | ogra: kernel-package | 15:50 |
| ogra | ah | 15:50 |
| mjg59 | It's a horrible part with all kinds of random quirks in the DDX | 15:51 |
| * ogra somehow needs to convince the kernel to be installable in vfat /boot | 15:51 | |
| JFo | brb, rebooting | 15:52 |
| ogra | hrm, no option that helps me to avoid the linking of backup kernels :/ | 15:54 |
| apw | ogra, what stops it being so installable | 15:54 |
| ogra | dpkg: error processing /linux-image-2.6.33-500-omap_2.6.33-500.5_armel.deb (--install): | 15:54 |
| ogra | unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.33-500-omap' before installing new version: Operation not permitted | 15:54 |
| ogra | apw, if it would mv instead of linking that would solve it | 15:55 |
| mdz | apw: vfat doesn't support symlinks | 15:55 |
| mdz | or hardlinks for that matter | 15:55 |
| mdz | ogra: I thought you were talking about something else | 15:55 |
| apw | seems unusual to want to do that | 15:55 |
| ogra | mdz, no, i'm trying to get omap working | 15:55 |
| mdz | ogra: that's not the maintainer script; that's dpkg itself | 15:55 |
| ogra | oh | 15:56 |
| apw | most systems which need to use FAT too contain their bootable kernels | 15:56 |
| apw | install them into a normal /boot and then cp them into the fat at 'flash' time | 15:56 |
| mdz | yes, I think a vfat /boot is perhaps not the best solution | 15:56 |
| apw | ogra, yeah thats dpkg ... i doubt that is ever going to work | 15:57 |
| ogra | hmm | 15:57 |
| apw | on efi systems i used to work on they mounted the efi /boot thingy onto /boot/efi and did magic to get them into there at 'grub-install' type time | 15:57 |
| mdz | dpkg needs to do that in order to safely replace the file | 15:57 |
| ogra | well, sadly kernel-img.conf preinst_hook seems deprecated | 15:58 |
| ogra | else that could call something that mv's | 15:59 |
| mdz | I don't think it will help you anyway | 15:59 |
| ogra | effectively the vmlinuz file is never used anyway | 15:59 |
| ogra | mdz, if i manually mv it i can dpkg -i linux-image-... | 15:59 |
| mdz | ogra: then why do you need a vfat partition? | 15:59 |
| ogra | the only prob is that its a link | 15:59 |
| mdz | ogra: yes, but if you mv it, you are reintroducing the race condition that dpkg is trying to avoid | 16:00 |
| ogra | mdz, because u-boot on beagle doesnt support any other FS | 16:00 |
| ogra | it needs to read uImage from a vfat partition ... | 16:00 |
| mdz | ogra: surely it's using the vmlinuz file though? | 16:00 |
| ogra | and that also needs to essentially be the first one on the SD | 16:00 |
| ogra | currently its using nothing ... i havent written the flash-kernel code for that yet | 16:01 |
| mdz | ogra: it sounds to me like you just want to mount your vfat partition somewhere other than /boot | 16:01 |
| ogra | but by default it treis to run boot.scr which in turn loads uImage | 16:01 |
| apw | ogra, so why can't we mount that on /boot/efi; cp uImage* /boot/efi; umount /boot/efi as part of the flash part | 16:01 |
| ogra | mdz, and copy uImage there ? | 16:01 |
| mdz | as apw says | 16:01 |
| ogra | well, we surely can | 16:01 |
| apw | s/efi/something sane/ | 16:01 |
| ogra | uboot | 16:01 |
| mdz | or even leave it mounted, and just copy as needed | 16:01 |
| ogra | now i'm scared ... that requires a partman module ... | 16:02 |
| ogra | not what i was hoping for last minute before freeze :) | 16:02 |
| ogra | but yes, that sounds very sane | 16:02 |
| gnomefreak | JFo: bug 563094 and bug 563102 | 16:12 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 563094 in linux "unable to report a "linux" bug using ubuntu-bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563094 | 16:12 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 563102 in linux "Unable to get any GUI other than Plymouth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563102 | 16:12 |
| JFo | thanks gnomefreak | 16:15 |
| gnomefreak | JFo: np | 16:15 |
| apw | bug #542208 | 16:18 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 542208 in linux "Please blacklist i830 from Kernel mode-setting" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542208 | 16:18 |
| amitk | apw: around? | 17:18 |
| apw | amitk, | 17:27 |
| amitk | apw: fsl-imx51 has control-scripts directory inside debian.fsl-imx51 with all the prerm/postrm, etc. Should it? mvl and ti don't. | 17:30 |
| apw | amitk, yes, cause its 'old-school' 2.6.31 way of doing things | 17:31 |
| apw | mvl and ti are both new-school and share one | 17:31 |
| apw | amitk, thats on my radar for 'soon' as i want to pull back the new debian abstraction to karmic and thus to the .31 branches | 17:31 |
| amitk | aah, keep forgetting | 17:31 |
| apw | yeah its a nightmare and one reason i want to roll it back ... so it _is_ the same and not confusing | 17:32 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: still getting the oops on -21.31 | 18:11 |
| jjohansen | hggdh: :( | 18:11 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: want me to run a mailine? | 18:12 |
| jjohansen | hggdh: sure | 18:12 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: which one? Any prefs? | 18:12 |
| jjohansen | hggdh: not at the moment | 18:12 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: will go to the latest 2.26.33, then. 2.26.34 would not even boot on my machine | 18:13 |
| jjohansen | hggdh: actually it would be good to try 32 and 33 | 18:13 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: OK. latest .32 and latest .33 | 18:14 |
| jjohansen | yes please | 18:14 |
| hggdh | will do | 18:14 |
| JFo | bug 563156 | 18:22 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 563156 in linux "laptop runs hot, shorter battery life, fan always on - lucid beta2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563156 | 18:22 |
| johanbr | the mainline headers build still looks broken | 18:27 |
| johanbr | linux-headers-2.6.34-020634rc4-generic depends on linux-headers-2.6.34-020634rc4 | 18:27 |
| johanbr | and the latter doesn't exist | 18:27 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: 2.6.32-11-lucid does not install the headers, missing a package | 18:29 |
| jjohansen | hggdh: hrrmm, okay I'm not sure what is up there will have to poke what of 2.6.33 | 18:30 |
| apw | yeah some headers are missing from the mainline builds at the mo, not had a chance to look why | 18:35 |
| apw | its on my list, but its freeze today ... so ... not today | 18:36 |
| tumbleweed | firmware request: this should be easy enough to fix, the firmware is in gregkh's git repo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/508746 | 19:12 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 508746 in linux "rtl819xE:request firmware fail!" [Low,Confirmed] | 19:12 |
| apw | tumbleweed, its 3 hours to freeze its unlikely anything will change before then | 19:21 |
| tumbleweed | apw: yeah, somebody just gave me a laptop to look at that, which was suffering from that bug 5 hours ago :0 | 19:30 |
| ubot3 | tumbleweed: Error: Could not parse data returned by Malone: list index out of range | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 19:30 |
| apw | heh | 19:30 |
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| === BalSak is now known as kern00b | ||
| kern00b | hi guys. I'm not really a very big kernel expert, so I would rather ask the pro's. I have a box that's presently in production, and I/we had to manually roll in the NIC driver/module. If/when I dist-upgrade the kernel, would I have to manually re-roll the driver into the new kernel, or will it get ported in the upgrade? | 22:54 |
| jjohansen | kern00b: if the new kernel doesn't include the driver you will need to re-roll it | 23:01 |
| jjohansen | the new kernel may have the driver you need though | 23:01 |
| jjohansen | basically each kernel gets its own set of modules | 23:01 |
| kern00b | jjohansen: thanks | 23:02 |
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