[02:23] hey, so Im looking for a good channel for general ubuntu help [02:23] am i in the right spot? any recommendations welcome [02:24] i12: try #ubuntu [02:27] thanks! === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx === smoser_ is now known as smoser === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux === jussi01 is now known as jussi === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === njpatel_ is now known as njpatel [14:54] o/ [14:58] \o [14:59] o/ [14:59] morning [15:00] smoser: ? [15:01] let's get started [15:01] #startmeeting [15:01] Meeting started at 09:01. The chair is ttx. [15:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:01] Welcome everyone to the Ubuntu Server team weekly meeting [15:01] Agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [15:01] I'm the scribe today [15:02] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [15:02] New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [15:02] * Mathiaz to fix a broken script with bug reporting link above. [15:02] * ttx to follow up with ivoks/RoaKSoax on cluster stack state [15:02] * mathiaz to propose removal of dovecot-postfix on MLs [15:02] o/ [15:02] 0/ [15:03] mathiaz is absent, I think both of his actions are still on the TODO list [15:03] About cluster stack, I followed up but did not follow-up on the followup yet [15:04] so we'll have these actions for next week again [15:04] RoAkSoAx: I'll bother you after the meeting if that's alright with you [15:04] ttx, sure [15:04] [TOPIC] Lucid release status [15:04] New Topic: Lucid release status [15:04] yay! [15:04] FinalFreeze will hit us tomorrow [15:05] rather sooner than later, if Beta2Freeze is of any indication [15:05] Once we are frozen all uploads will need ReleaseTeam approval [15:05] so get everything you can in by EOD :) [15:05] RC bugs status: [15:06] bug 556343 (zul) [15:06] Launchpad bug 556343 in bind9 "upgrade error on 8.04 -> 10.04 " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556343 [15:06] mvo said he hasnt looked at it yet [15:06] quick one-liner on each bug status please :) [15:06] bug 532733 (kirkland) [15:06] Launchpad bug 532733 in qemu-kvm "apt/dpkg in qemu-system-arm hangs if a big task is installed" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532733 [15:06] (is there an RC bug list ttx ?) [15:06] ah hm [15:07] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus [15:07] ttx: forwarded upstream; i haven't made much progress on that one, and i'm not able to reproduce it easily (outside of the odd apt-get circumstance) [15:07] zul: I run the test now again and once its finshed I upload the syslog file [15:07] There is a bug in malone search preventing a dynamic list here [15:07] bug 513273 (kirkland) [15:07] Launchpad bug 513273 in vgabios "kvm with -vga std is broken since karmic" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513273 [15:07] I think this one is done ? [15:08] bug 533029 (zul) [15:08] Launchpad bug 533029 in autofs5 "[FFE] autofs5-ldap doesn't work immediately after bootup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533029 [15:08] slangasek said he has looked at it but hasnt commented about it [15:08] ill bug him again today [15:08] We also need some AA attention on bug 562261, FFe approved for this one already [15:08] Launchpad bug 562261 in krb5 "Sync krb5 1.8.1+dfsg-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562261 [15:08] ttx: i uploaded a fix, but it was rejected by slangasek; i've asked the (many) bug commenters to help do some testing on it against bochs [15:09] kirkland: ok, thanks [15:09] On the remaining work items in the specs at http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-server-ubuntu-10.04.html [15:09] the two in eucalyptus merging and packaging should be done today [15:10] the remaining ones are mostly on track, need mathiaz for an update [15:10] Finally, you can find a list of Lucid targets of opportunity at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus [15:11] Mostly a server-oriented view of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs [15:11] Once your higher-prio items are done feel free to pick up bugs in there ;) [15:11] I think we are mostly in good shape [15:12] we need more testing, so don't hesitate to blog/call for that [15:12] Questions ? [15:13] ok, moving on then [15:13] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [15:13] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [15:13] hggdh: hi [15:13] no Q from me, tested with kirkland yesaterday the problem I opened [15:13] ttx: hi [15:14] I am still unable to run KVM locally (my laptop), kernel oops [15:14] Would be good to come to the bottom of those, if only to get some trusted test results [15:14] yes [15:14] I think we are good with the ISO testcases we came up for beta2 [15:14] sounds and smells like routing [15:15] ttx: i would like jjohansen and the kernel team to take a serious look at hggdh's kvm issue [15:15] I am starting to work on the EC2 tests, jump-starting from smoser's work [15:15] ttx: i think that's likely a portent of things to fcome [15:15] hggdh: if you can't find where it comes from with kirkland, I'll try to get access and have a look, just in case something jumps out [15:15] hggdh: try the latest Beta2 kernel [15:15] hggdh, awesome. please ping me if you need any help reading that embarrassing collection of slop [15:15] and please, don't judge. [15:15] jjohansen: I am running Lucid up-to-date. You mean you want me to downgrade? [15:16] ttx: hggdh's testing issue is one of networking/routing [15:16] hggdh: no, I want you to try the kernel that hasn't been released yet :) [15:16] ttx: i think mathiaz's knowledge of the lab's networking will solve that bug, thus i re-assigned it to him for now [15:16] kirkland: yes, I asked for more data o nthe bug, but it might be simpler for me to connect and look ;) [15:16] I can provide you a dpkg or you can wait a couple days [15:16] ttx: mathias gets to Austin late tonight; we'll look at it together tomorrow [15:16] jjohansen: if it is the -21, I just installed it, and will reboot after the meeting [15:17] hggdh: -21.31 [15:17] * ttx thanks the QA team for their help in debunking bug 546743 on the HW enablement labs (fader, thanks :) [15:17] Launchpad bug 546743 in linux "Blank screen at first boot with ATI ES1000 and 10.04 server" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546743 [15:17] anything else for QA ? [15:17] jjohansen: matches [15:18] yeah [15:18] smoser: who am I to judge anybody? I will not :-) [15:19] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [15:19] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [15:19] hggdh: thanks [15:19] jjohansen: hi ! [15:19] hi [15:19] jjohansen: how is it going, before I hit you with my issues ? [15:20] heh, well not bad considering [15:20] ok, so the biggest issue on server affecting release right now is... bug 546743 [15:20] Launchpad bug 546743 in linux "Blank screen at first boot with ATI ES1000 and 10.04 server" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546743 [15:21] Most IBM/Lenovo servers ship with that ES1000 [15:21] and I suspect many others [15:21] right, that is basically SRU atm [15:21] if that's SRU, I'd make a plea for nomodeset by default [15:22] cjwatson: around ? [15:22] makes us look very bad to not having a login prompt after an install on a lot of servers [15:22] ttx: well basically every thing kernel is SRU, or at least have to make it past the release team [15:23] well, I'll let them choose between the two evils [15:23] the kernel froze monday [15:23] ttx: yes, I saw - I'm OK with that I think [15:23] jjohansen: if it gets a finalfreeze exception, is it something we know how to fix ? [15:24] cjwatson: the exception or nomodeset ? [15:24] nomodeset [15:24] if that's the approach recommended and approved by the kernel team [15:25] team: would you mind losing the higher screen resolution on console VTs ? [15:25] ttx: i very much would [15:25] ttx: hrmm nomodeset can be done, I will raise with kernel team [15:26] kirkland: explain [15:26] ttx: the new 128x35 lines (or whatever) is brilliant [15:26] ttx: if that's what you're talking about [15:26] I'd argue that our target audience doesn't care about consoles [15:26] ttx: are you talking about losing that, to downgrade back to 80x25 ? [15:26] * Daviey adds a blueprint to flesh out "target audience" [15:27] Daviey: tss :) [15:27] ttx: what's the method for a user wanting higher res to bump it back up? [15:27] kirkland: remove nomodeset from kernel cmdline [15:27] jjohansen: or would it just affect the ES1000 case ? [15:27] ttx: if that's a one-liner, that an admin can run once postinstall, or preseed it, I suppose that would suffice [15:28] all impression I have seen of our target audience, first and foremost is fully functional console. 80x25 is acceptable. [15:28] ttx: it depends how it is done [15:28] smoser: ditto [15:28] jjohansen: I'll let you brainstorm what the options are [15:29] easiest would be either system wide or just set that ati card to nomodeset [15:29] jjohansen: then we'll discuss that with release team [15:29] jjohansen: does it sound good ? [15:30] ttx: yes, I'll poke some more and see if there are other options at the moment, and get back to you in a bit but I think that is it [15:31] the fix for Bug #530361 was snuck in [15:31] Launchpad bug 530361 in linux "Support for DELL H200/H700/H800 SAS cards is missing in the CD/DVD installer for Lucid (mpt2sas)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530361 [15:31] yes, that's good, thanks ! [15:31] ttx: smoser: okay, i suppose a functional 80x25 would be acceptable; i strongly suggest that we have well published documentation on how to get it back [15:31] that happened as we had problems with some other critical issues and broke freeze for those issues [15:31] kirkland: ideally that would just affect the faulty card [15:32] ttx: ah, okay [15:32] kirkland: but if there is any risk of losing console, I perfer to have 80x25 everywhere than 128x35 only for 80% of servers [15:32] and nothing on the remaining 20% [15:32] ttx: agreed [15:32] jjohansen: cool :) [15:33] anything else for kernel ? [15:33] hopefully the latest kernel will fix hggdh's kvm [15:33] thanks for everything jjohansen you are the best [15:34] * hggdh hops so [15:34] * jjohansen wonders what evil thing zul is going to ask for now :) [15:34] hah.. [15:34] let's find out [15:34] [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (zul) [15:34] New Topic: Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (zul) [15:34] hi [15:34] so there is nothing nominated for dapper, hardy, intrepid [15:35] for jaunty and karmic there is one nominated [15:35] the one for jaunty is wishlist -> no [15:35] 156636 [15:35] agreed [15:35] and its the same for karmic [15:35] same for karmic [15:35] the fixed buglist is still broken [15:36] heh, looks like this will be a short review [15:36] anything in that list [15:36] thats broken ;) [15:36] yes :) [15:37] nothing in that list from me [15:37] ttx: ? [15:37] you can look at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/lucid-fixes-report.html for server bugs recently fixed [15:37] I have no suggestion though [15:38] it's all eucalyptus, or not relevant IMO. [15:38] so next is proposed list [15:38] there is 3 of them which need to be reviewed [15:39] http://tinyurl.com/y4xza95 [15:39] LINK received: http://tinyurl.com/y4xza95 [15:39] ubuntu-server recently fixed bugs ^ [15:39] so when someone has some downtime can they review them [15:40] zul: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+activereviews ? [15:40] yep [15:40] zul: ack [15:40] anything else? [15:40] zul: do you plan to discuss SRU handling at UDS ? [15:41] ttx: yeah i mentioned it to ttx [15:41] or hallway-discuss it ? [15:41] not ttx jos [15:41] ok [15:41] looks like our process could still use some improvement [15:41] and since this is LTS time again... [15:41] +1 [15:41] i think its part of the qa workflow that needs to be updated again [15:42] zul: ok, anything else ? [15:42] and considering the .1 release is going to be happening within the maverick timeframe [15:42] nope [15:42] * ttx pastes actions to pass to next week for reference [15:42] [ACTION] Mathiaz to fix the "server fixed bugs" broken script [15:42] ACTION received: Mathiaz to fix the "server fixed bugs" broken script [15:43] [ACTION] ttx to follow up with ivoks/RoaKSoax on cluster stack state [15:43] ACTION received: ttx to follow up with ivoks/RoaKSoax on cluster stack state [15:43] [ACTION] mathiaz to propose removal of dovecot-postfix on MLs [15:43] ACTION received: mathiaz to propose removal of dovecot-postfix on MLs [15:43] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [15:43] New Topic: Open Discussion [15:43] yes... [15:43] anything / anyone ? [15:43] Any news on blueprints? [15:43] any bug you'd like to bring to general attention ? [15:44] Daviey: we haven't reviewed our scratchlist yet... it's even missing input from some team members [15:44] i been working on getting mysql-5.0 out of universe and it should be ready to be removed from universe today [15:44] ttx: ok thanks [15:44] zul: But why? Will it go to main? [15:44] Daviey: I think in all cases we'll have a public wikipage by the end of week, reviewed or not [15:45] bilalakhtar: because mysql-5.1 is in main [15:45] ttx: superb, [15:45] zul: ok [15:45] zul: good [15:46] does everyone sleep well ? [15:46] meh [15:46] no [15:46] ok, I'm not the only one then [15:47] apparently my leg twitches when i sleep [15:47] this is all hearsay [15:47] my wife sleep walks and screams in her sleep [15:47] and talks in her sleep [15:47] and something else about lucid [15:49] anyways :) [15:51] ok [15:51] we should have a session on how to make the meeting more lively :) [15:51] [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [15:51] New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time [15:51] Next week, same time, same place [15:51] #endmeeting [15:51] great \o/ [15:51] Meeting finished at 09:51. [15:52] and now let's write up, yay [15:52] heh [15:59] hi [15:59] hello [16:00] hey! [16:00] can I paste my lighting report and be 5min out? mini conflicts with the schedule? [16:00] surely [16:00] did: lots of update-manager/upgrade fixing work, software-center work (UI responsiveness) [16:00] todo: bugfixing in update-manager/upgrades, software-center [16:00] * mvo will be back as quick as possible [16:01] lool, barry, cjwatson, doko__, slangasek, james_w: ping [16:01] hi [16:01] hi === doko__ is now known as doko [16:01] hi [16:01] hi [16:01] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is ev. [16:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:02] [LINK] Meeting Agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0414 [16:02] LINK received: Meeting Agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0414 [16:02] [TOPIC] Lightning Round [16:02] New Topic: Lightning Round [16:02] order: tremolux, lool, ev, barry, cjwatson, doko, slangasek, james_w [16:02] k [16:02] Lots of software-center bug fixing and testing. [16:02] Channel updating bugs mentioned last week are fixed. [16:02] Holiday next week! [16:02] (done) [16:03] I don't think lool is going to make it, so... [16:04] some installer fixes, meetings with sabdfl and the design team to discuss the latest drafts of the installer design, hopefully fixed an apt bug, and lots of work on ubiquity unit testing [16:04] (done) [16:04] pep 3147; bug 519541 (abiword hang); spent a little time working on cjwatson's script, but i think we'll need update lazr.restfulclient to 0.9.13 in lucid. (done) [16:04] Launchpad bug 519541 in abiword "Abiword 2.8.1 freezes with document lost when help is clicked or F1 is pressed" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519541 [16:04] done: buried in customer bugs first half of this week; fixed a few more partitioner and boot loader bugs, almost entirely happy with those for lucid now [16:04] todo: sync up d-i component translations for lucid; concentrate completely on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone=21439, inc. remaining Kubuntu installation issues [16:04] -- [16:04] done: [16:04] * openjdk-6: testing, preparation of the icedtea6-1.8 release, debug plugin failures, make it [16:04] robust with our wrongly configured firefox, reduce test failures in the jtreg testsuite. [16:04] * robustify ca-certificates-java updates with unsupported certificates [16:04] * sun-java6 updates for older releases [16:04] * gdc-4.3 updates to fix regressions [16:05] * started archive rebuild [16:05] * toolchain preparation for maverick, updated gcc-plugindir patch, now in trunk, new gcc-snapshot/gcc-4.5 packages [16:05] * ant1.8, bash, libtunepimp uploads [16:05] * java bug triage [16:05] todo: [16:05] * eglibc update [16:05] * file bug reports for test rebuild failures [16:05] * get some sleep [16:05] -- [16:06] * mvo is back [16:06] * james_w guesses slangasek isn't up yet [16:06] indeed, james_w, you're up [16:06] launchpad, bzr-builddeb and sponsoring, with some lucid bug fixing etc. thrown in. More of the same to come. (done) [16:06] [TOPIC] Outstanding actions from last meeting [16:06] New Topic: Outstanding actions from last meeting [16:06] oh, I forgot one thing, I'm working on a dpkg update with backports for some important bugs, though it's taking some coordination with upstream [16:07] I didn't see any in the report, but speak up if you have some [16:08] ev: i had an old action item for cjwatson, which i spent a little time on. blocked on an old version of lazr.restfulclient in lucid (which i'll work w/the lp team to get updated) [16:08] barry: cool, thanks [16:08] okay, moving on [16:08] [TOPIC] Outstanding feature freeze exceptions [16:08] New Topic: Outstanding feature freeze exceptions [16:09] I imagine none [16:09] ev: i was trying to get c-j 2.0 into lucid, but that's not going to happen [16:09] :( [16:09] c-j? [16:09] computer janitor. i couldn't convince pitti ;) [16:09] barry: are you going to shove it in -proposed? [16:10] or a PPA [16:10] it's in my ppa now. i want to undo the translation changes i made for the ffe and then upload a new version. i do want to propose it for m [16:10] I think for m, Just Do It [16:11] (oh yeah, we can say maverick now) [16:11] but it could reasonably go in 10.04.1, no? [16:11] cjwatson: cool. i don't think i know the exact process for that, but i'll figure it out :) [16:11] ev: well, i'd love that, but i don't know if that would satisfy the concerns pitti had [16:12] fair enough [16:12] i made a plea for others to test it on ubuntu-devel but got zero responses :( [16:12] barry: ubuntuforums is usually good for that kind of thing [16:13] ev: oh cool. i'll give that a try then. i think with some others testing it, it could have gone in 10.04 final [16:13] but oh well [16:13] [TOPIC] Milestoned bugs [16:13] New Topic: Milestoned bugs [16:13] [LINK] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone:list=21447 [16:13] LINK received: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone:list=21447 [16:14] is that entirely the wrong URL? [16:14] isn't that the beta-2 milestone? [16:14] yeah, whoops [16:14] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs ? [16:14] =21439 [16:14] ah [16:15] the URL was in my lightning round update, actually [16:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone=21439 [16:15] thanks [16:15] usb-creator> I'll sort that before release, doesn't depend on the archive [16:16] I may unmilestone the partman-auto recipe tweak bug - I'm not sure whether that's a good idea to change at this point [16:16] nested progress bars I'd like to fix, but if I can't, not the end of the world [16:16] a new software-center with fixes will go in tonight [16:16] ubiquity> the kde frontend makes me sad, but we have most of the problems there sorted [16:17] the BIOS hang due to the partitioner has a workaround which can be documented [16:17] plus the apt fix that ev helpfully did \o/ [16:17] yay [16:17] the ATA passthrough stuff in hdparm has a known workaround, will apply it soon after another skim through the upstream discussion to see if it's been resolved properly yet [16:18] omap installation are Not Our Problem, that's mobile team [16:18] *installations [16:18] anyone want to fix dmraid? [16:18] oh, that has a branch, guess I'll look at that [16:18] plymouth I'm assuming Keybuk/slangasek will handle [16:19] I don't know what the rest of your bug mail is like, but it's eerily quiet here. Or at least significantly quieter than Beta 1. [16:19] bug 470550 I guess we should have another look at but it doesn't seem appropriate to change for lucid at this point [16:19] Launchpad bug 470550 in coreutils "uname -p and uname -i reporting `unknown'" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/470550 [16:19] I guess that's a good thing [16:19] it's quieter than beta-1, though not flatlining by any means [16:20] bug 557220 has I think been fixed in debian-cd, will check and close [16:20] Launchpad bug 557220 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu "kubuntu splash using old logo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557220 [16:20] yes it has assuming I got the colours right [16:20] I'm concerned about the remaining kernel tasks, don't know what the timeline is looking like for those [16:22] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/549738 is worrying [16:22] Launchpad bug 549738 in ubiquity "[Lucid Beta2] Booting with new ubiquity live session audio doesn't work" [High,Triaged] [16:23] right, anything else on the bug front? [16:23] bug 556555 [16:23] Launchpad bug 556555 in ubiquity "oem-config loops indefinitely in Kubuntu OEM installations" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556555 [16:23] that's worrying me, I don't know how to start debugging it [16:23] and it disappeared when I did [16:23] find out how I can reproduce it, and I'll debug it [16:23] I think when I tried I couldn't [16:24] plain OEM install does it for me, on virtualbox or real [16:24] I'll give it a try after the meeting [16:25] I'm a bit worried about the threading deadlocks in computer-janitor [16:25] the fix is to move to the dbus branch, but that got rejected because it was too late (unfortunately) [16:25] for me it reliable deadlocks but I haven't found a fix (and other stuff that is also important) [16:26] mvo: i didn't get much response on my query to remove c-j-gtk from default install [16:26] I guess that is good [16:26] I mean, not much opposition [16:26] mvo: my only concern is that the gtk version could still be useful to people. e.g. for me it never deadlocked (but i haven't used v1 in a while) [16:27] mvo: i guess i am on the fence about it [16:27] hm, ok [16:27] if I'm the only one seeing it its probably a way too big hammer [16:28] mvo: i think i will just triage bugs as they come in and point them to my ppa [16:28] * mvo nods [16:28] thanks [16:29] anything else? [16:30] [TOPIC] Good News [16:30] New Topic: Good News [16:30] looks like pep 3147 will make it into py3k trunk by friday. symlink farms days are numbered [16:31] ... the ABI patch pending ... [16:31] \o/ [16:31] doko: well, yes, i will be working on that next :) [16:31] the upgrade tester has finally! moved to the datacenter and is in full automatic mode [16:32] there is also a initial version of the pkg-install-tester running (but that is probably a bit buggy still) [16:32] mvo: cool! are the results available online or via email? [16:32] http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/ [16:32] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/ [16:32] We finally have a basic test harness for ubiquity (to land in trunk after lucid), with a much more involved set of tests to land as soon as I can figure out EC2 desktop CD testing or I unbreak `fakechroot fakeroot debootstrap`. [16:33] the pkg install tester is http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/auto-install-tester/ [16:34] [TOPIC] Chair for next meeting [16:34] New Topic: Chair for next meeting [16:34] creating additional profiles is simple, if someone has good ideas [16:35] mvo: are you looking at the failure details to see if they are fixable? [16:36] barry: yes, lts-ubuntu is pending, d-h-l-ubuntu is a OOo upgrade bug (I attached a fix there) [16:36] barry: I need to make the "Bugs" column filed automatically for known failures [16:36] that is still missing [16:36]