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BUGabundofta: you know the bug I filed for ctrl+b not opening bookmark tab?00:08
BUGabundoits now ctrl+shift+b00:08
BUGabundoI'm telling you, I'm dropping ch00:09
BUGabundoits wortheless00:09
BUGabundothey change even more stuff then canonical, and don't care of what we say00:09
[reed]ch == chrome?00:17
BUGabundo[reed]: yes00:28
BUGabundo[reed]: this is my most nagging bug right now http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=40865#c1800:29
BUGabundoand the bookmark one the is second00:29
BUGabundonight00:35
DanaGweird... back button doesn't work in Minefield for me.01:01
ddecatorworking for me =)01:03
DanaGweird... must be one of my extensions.01:07
DanaGah, it's Tab Mix Plus that was doing it.01:08
DanaGUpdating the extension seems to have fixed it.01:08
ddecatorthe joys of using minefield, haha01:09
DanaGhttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=172717501:12
DanaGSearch box: even if I disable the indexer, from time to time  Thunderbird's search box returns to the default "Search everywhere" mode  which is annoying. I don't know if they fixed it in 3.01.01:12
DanaGFor me, it's not just "from time to time"... it's "every damn time I start thunderbird".01:12
DanaGweird... csr.com is also freezing my browser.02:04
DanaG/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3a4pre/mozilla-runtime: error while loading shared libraries: libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:07
DanaGhttp://pastebin.com/SFcUkV4R02:07
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/51388702:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 513887 in firefox "Flash, Java, etc. does not work with out of process plugins and causes Firefox to become unresponsive" [High,Triaged]02:27
DanaGmmmmyeah02:34
DanaG/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3a4pre/mozilla-runtime: error while loading shared libraries: libmozalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:45
DanaGit can't find ANY thing that's in the same xulrunner dir.02:46
LLStarkshey asac, why do self-compiled and tarball'd firefox builds have such terrible subpixel and hinting?02:58
LLStarksumd seems to be the only build environment getting things right02:59
LLStarksbetter question, who is at fault? ubuntu or mozilla.02:59
* micahg is trying to remember if anything was forgotten tonight06:53
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BUGabundo_remotethe tuggs say Hi08:43
asacLLStarks: noone is at fault11:17
asacthe guy building it11:17
asac;)11:17
asacfta: ok enable lucid dailies again for now12:06
BUGabundo_remoteis it?12:09
* BUGabundo_remote checks12:09
asacBUGabundo_remote: is what? the dailies are disabled because doko started a late rebuild ;)12:18
asacand wants more builders12:18
asacbut that isnt really moving forward imo12:18
chrisccoulsonbdrung - any joy with stumbleupon licensing?12:26
bdrungchrisccoulson: no12:26
bdrungstill no answer12:26
chrisccoulsonbdrung - ok, thanks. if we can't resolve it for final freeze, then we should probably consider dropping it :(12:27
asacchrisccoulson: whats the dropping status?12:31
asacchrisccoulson: can we go and drop whatever isnt ported yet?12:31
asaciirc gluezilla needs a sync12:31
chrisccoulsonasac - the big one is sugar12:31
asaci dont see that moving forward:12:31
chrisccoulsonunless someone can find the time to package pyxpcom between now and tomorrow12:31
asaca) python-xpcom is unlikely to happen12:31
asacb) i dont know if anyone would wnat to add pyxpcom to the package that needs it12:32
asaci think sugar should die ;)12:32
* asac happy that i wont get the whips ;)12:32
chrisccoulsonasac - i agree, but i was afraid to take the unpopular decision ;)12:32
asacproblem is that mozilla decides things for us  ... they are the ones that dont want stable APIs/ABIs12:33
asacand everyone using them is doomed12:33
asacso the compromise is: a) make developers hapy now12:33
asacor b) ensure that users dont get regressions in the mniddle of lucid when pyxpcom doesnt work anymore or something12:33
asacor c) ensure that users still get security updates12:33
asacmy heart is bleeding on this since a long time12:34
asacits a tough decision.12:34
chrisccoulsonit is ;)12:36
chrisccoulsonso, i think that the only way forward at the moment then is to drop sugar12:37
asacchrisccoulson: right. can we get a list of what we dropped?12:38
asacbesides extensions that is12:38
asacone goal was to reduce the rdepends load on xulrunner12:38
asaci want to check if we need to take other unpopular decisions12:38
asacproblem is that if we dont drop anything else its even harder to communicate ;)12:38
chrisccoulsonasac - i'll try and find out what we dropped. i tried to do that yesterday and then realised it's quite difficult to do, as sometimes i just ping pitti about it12:39
chrisccoulsonis there anywhere i can check a record of packages that get removed?12:39
asacchrisccoulson: good question :( ...12:39
asacchrisccoulson: maybe the OP pitti runs produces a log?12:39
chrisccoulsoni'll try and find out12:40
asacgood12:40
asaci think we might also want to drop more stuff ... especially that stuff that is working with setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the scripts12:40
asace.g. not properly ported to xpcom glue12:40
asacenigmail uploaded12:52
asac(with source format 1.0)12:52
al-maisanhello asac, just tested enigmail (from your ppa) and the sent messages were copied to the "Sent" folder w/o any problems.13:11
al-maisanasac: sorry about the noise13:11
asacal-maisan: thanks for following up13:14
asacnp13:14
al-maisanasac: thank you for packaging it :)13:14
asacits even in lucid now ;)13:15
al-maisangreat!13:16
* al-maisan installs it on his other laptop13:19
micahgchrisccoulson: I noticed a few bugs that were still open for Lucid, you got a minute?15:34
* gnomefreak thinks firefox is still broken15:36
micahggnomefreak: you'd be correct :)15:36
micahgat least in the dailies15:36
gnomefreakyep15:36
micahgarchive version should be good at this point15:36
* micahg goes off to compile 3.6.4~build115:37
gnomefreakeh i still have 3.715:37
gnomefreakwell 3.7 is even  more broken goes to useing chromium i guess15:42
chrisccoulsonhi micahg15:43
chrisccoulsonwhat sort of bugs?15:43
micahghi chrisccoulson15:44
micahgregression-potential15:44
micahgbug 53373915:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 533739 in firefox "ubuntu package search searchengine missing from firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53373915:44
micahgand bug 54306415:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 543064 in thunderbird "ensure that x-www-browser is used if no http handler is found through gnome integration" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54306415:44
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i've not really had time to look at those yet15:45
micahgchrisccoulson: k, wanted to make sure they were on your radar as you said you were doing uploads today15:47
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i've not forgotten about them, i've just not really had time to look at them yet15:57
micahgchrisccoulson: k, that's fine...like I said, just wanted to make sure they're on your radar15:57
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ok, i'm going to do a firefox upload in a minute. is there anything you want to get in there?16:08
micahgchrisccoulson: the only thing that I think is left is that Ubuntu search engine bug16:09
chrisccoulsonwhich bug is that?16:11
micahgchrisccoulson: bug 53373916:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 533739 in firefox "ubuntu package search searchengine missing from firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53373916:14
jdstrandchrisccoulson, micahg: were you guys aware that in lucid UNE the firefox icon is the default gnome one (ie, the 'gears') rather than upstream?16:18
jdstrandat least it is and has been for me for some time16:18
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, no, i wasn't aware of that16:18
micahgjdstrand: I wasn't aware either16:18
jdstrandok, let me purge and install anew, and I'll file a bug16:19
asac17:18 < asac> anyone has a hotmail account ;)16:19
asac17:18 < asac> whats the url to go to to get to the inbox?16:19
jdstrandhotmail? no way man16:19
jdstrand:P16:19
asacheh16:19
asacdamn. i hoped security was subscribed to that16:19
jdstrandhehe16:20
chrisccoulsonmicahg - oh, ok. i'm not too concerned about that one. do you think it's worth having?16:20
micahgchrisccoulson: I used to use it, but there's the LP plugin, so it's not as critical IMHO, I was really wondering if it was by accident or on purpose that it was dropped16:21
gnomefreaki had a hotmail account but i dont recall login info :(16:21
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure if it was dropped by accident or not16:22
gnomefreakhotmail+thunderbird was never good together16:22
ftaasac, done (bot)16:27
asacfta: nice ;)16:29
asacwe tweaked the scheduling so rebuilds can get a better share for now16:29
micahgasac: can we add the thumb2 patch from FF to TB?16:29
asacmicahg: yes, we should do that16:29
micahgchrisccoulson: did you do the TB upload yet?16:30
* asac on a call16:30
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i've not done it just yet16:31
micahgchrisccoulson: can you wait until I get the armel patch in?16:31
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, no problem16:32
micahgchrisccoulson: ok, thunderbird should be ready now16:47
chrisccoulson_micahg - ok, i will look at that when my laptop becomes usable again16:51
jdstrandchrisccoulson, micahg: re UNE> local issue. no bug17:07
micahgchrisccoulson: should we have a firefox-kde metapackage?18:53
micahgchrisccoulson: asac: any objection for me to do Seamonkey 2 tonight?18:57
chrisccoulson_micahg - that's essentially what kmozillahelper already is18:58
micahgchrisccoulson: well, the problem is people who install firefox from the archive and not kubuntu-firefox-installer doesn't know about kmozillahelper18:59
chrisccoulson_well, sort of18:59
micahgbug 55915418:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 559154 in firefox "KDE users installing Firefox from archive don't know about kmozillahelper" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55915418:59
chrisccoulson_micahg - we could probably do that, but that can wait until next cycle now. the issue is though that users will still install the firefox package rather than firefox-kde, and will still complain about not having kmozillahelper by default when they install firefox ;)19:04
chrisccoulson_much like gnome users install thunderbird without installing thunderbird-gnome-support19:04
micahgchrisccoulson: k19:04
micahgchrisccoulson: what about seamonkey?19:04
chrisccoulson_micahg - if you have time, then feel free ;)19:04
* micahg wants to file the FFe if we're going to do it19:04
chrisccoulson_we're cutting it a bit fine though...19:05
micahgchrisccoulson: well, I don't really have time, but I don't see anyone else having time either19:05
micahgchrisccoulson: otherwise we have to drop it19:05
chrisccoulson_yeah, that's why i mentioned dropping it a couple of days ago, but couldn't remember if that had already been discussed or not19:06
micahgchrisccoulson_: it was as a last result19:06
micahgchrisccoulson_: if I get the FFe, we have another week to get it in19:06
chrisccoulson_well, final freeze is tomorrow19:07
micahgchrisccoulson_: yes, but I don't think it's seeded anywhere19:07
chrisccoulson_that's true, but once we're a few days in to final freeze it will be hard to get anything in, as we need to keep the builders free19:07
micahgchrisccoulson_: right, but it would give me the weekend if I can't do it tonight19:08
micahgand if I can get it 95% working, we can push and do an SRU after release for the rest19:09
chrisccoulson_ok, i don't mind too much then if you want to work on that19:09
micahgchrisccoulson_: ok19:09
micahgchrisccoulson_: I think I'm doing alright on the hardy porting anyways19:09
chrisccoulson_micahg - ok, that's good then19:11
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jdstrandchrisccoulson: thanks for the lucid fix for bug #55988121:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 559881 in nss "libnss3-1d 3.12.6-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 breaks ssl/fips support in firefox" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55988121:42
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - no worries. i will apply the same fix for jaunty xulrunner next21:42
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micahgchrisccoulson: can we switch back to system NSS/NSPR for firefox 3.6 or is that set already?21:44
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i don't think we should change that now21:44
chrisccoulson(and this is more aligned with upstream builds anyway)21:45
chrisccoulsondoko has a workaround for the icedtea plugin issue21:45
micahgchrisccoulson: k, so I guess that I can close my bug about it21:46
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, you can do for now. but, we can revisit that again in maverick if it causes any other issues21:46
BUGabundoevening 'p21:47
chrisccoulsonhi BUGabundo21:47
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i'm just doing a test build of thunderbird, and then i will get that uploaded21:56
micahgchrisccoulson: great, thanks22:07
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micahgasac: do you want to add AOL mail to desktop-webmail?23:07
micahgchrisccoulson: who should I set as approver for a blueprint for mozilla team stuff?23:21
micahgchrisccoulson: I forgot to do a TB-locales update...23:22
micahgchrisccoulson_: ^^^23:24
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i'm not sure about the blueprints. i'll try and find out23:25
micahgchrisccoulson: if I prepare a TB-locales update, can we still get it in?23:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, we should just be able to get that in still23:26
micahgchrisccoulson: should be ready in a few minutes23:38
chrisccoulsonmicahg - thanks23:39
micahgbdrung: you broke my thunderbird-locales with the mozilla-devscripts updates :P23:42
bdrungmicahg: what did i break exactly?23:43
micahgbdrung: xul-ext path23:43
micahgbdrung: I'm fixing it...23:43
bdrungmicahg: you can set override the path23:43
micahgbdrung: should I?23:44
bdrunglet me check. apt-get source?23:44
micahgbdrung: is there any risk to throwing the xpis in the new dir?23:44
bdrungmicahg: not that i am aware of (we link to this dir)23:45
micahgbdrung: k, I don't want to break anything on this upload :)23:46
bdrungmicahg: wtf? native package?23:47
micahgbdrung: yeah, debian doesn't have this AFAIK23:47
bdrungbut native?23:47
micahgbdrung: there's no official upstream tarball23:47
bdrung3.0-0ubuntu2 -> not native23:47
bdrungdebuild complains and lintian will complain too23:48
* micahg didn't touch the old numbering scheme23:48
bdrungmicahg: fix it! create a .orig file!23:50
micahgbdrung: asac said no23:51
micahgbdrung: that's what I originally did23:51
bdrungmicahg: to fix the package you should use the -i directory, --install-dir=directory parameter for install-xpi23:51
bdrungmicahg: why?23:51
micahgbdrung: is that /path/to/extension-folder or /path/to/folder-above?23:52
micahgbdrung: also, will old mozilla-devscripts ignore the -i option?23:52
bdrung /path/to/extension-folder23:52
bdrungmicahg: the old one has this option too (let me check)23:53
bdrungmicahg: the parameter exists since version 0.1923:57
micahgbdrung: k, thanks23:58
bdrungasac: around?23:58
bdrungmicahg: i think thunderbird-locale should stay were they are and not put into xul-ext23:59
micahgbdrung: k, I made the change23:59

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