[00:08] <BUGabundo> fta: you know the bug I filed for ctrl+b not opening bookmark tab?
[00:08] <BUGabundo> its now ctrl+shift+b
[00:09] <BUGabundo> I'm telling you, I'm dropping ch
[00:09] <BUGabundo> its wortheless
[00:09] <BUGabundo> they change even more stuff then canonical, and don't care of what we say
[00:17] <[reed]> ch == chrome?
[00:28] <BUGabundo> [reed]: yes
[00:29] <BUGabundo> [reed]: this is my most nagging bug right now http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=40865#c18
[00:29] <BUGabundo> and the bookmark one the is second
[00:35] <BUGabundo> night
[01:01] <DanaG> weird... back button doesn't work in Minefield for me.
[01:03] <ddecator> working for me =)
[01:07] <DanaG> weird... must be one of my extensions.
[01:08] <DanaG> ah, it's Tab Mix Plus that was doing it.
[01:08] <DanaG> Updating the extension seems to have fixed it.
[01:09] <ddecator> the joys of using minefield, haha
[01:12] <DanaG> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1727175
[01:12] <DanaG> Search box: even if I disable the indexer, from time to time  Thunderbird's search box returns to the default "Search everywhere" mode  which is annoying. I don't know if they fixed it in 3.01.
[01:12] <DanaG> For me, it's not just "from time to time"... it's "every damn time I start thunderbird".
[02:04] <DanaG> weird... csr.com is also freezing my browser.
[02:07] <DanaG> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3a4pre/mozilla-runtime: error while loading shared libraries: libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:07] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/SFcUkV4R
[02:27] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/513887
[02:34] <DanaG> mmmmyeah
[02:45] <DanaG> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3a4pre/mozilla-runtime: error while loading shared libraries: libmozalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:46] <DanaG> it can't find ANY thing that's in the same xulrunner dir.
[02:58] <LLStarks> hey asac, why do self-compiled and tarball'd firefox builds have such terrible subpixel and hinting?
[02:59] <LLStarks> umd seems to be the only build environment getting things right
[02:59] <LLStarks> better question, who is at fault? ubuntu or mozilla.
[06:53]  * micahg is trying to remember if anything was forgotten tonight
[08:43] <BUGabundo_remote> the tuggs say Hi
[11:17] <asac> LLStarks: noone is at fault
[11:17] <asac> the guy building it
[11:17] <asac> ;)
[12:06] <asac> fta: ok enable lucid dailies again for now
[12:09] <BUGabundo_remote> is it?
[12:09]  * BUGabundo_remote checks
[12:18] <asac> BUGabundo_remote: is what? the dailies are disabled because doko started a late rebuild ;)
[12:18] <asac> and wants more builders
[12:18] <asac> but that isnt really moving forward imo
[12:26] <chrisccoulson> bdrung - any joy with stumbleupon licensing?
[12:26] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: no
[12:26] <bdrung> still no answer
[12:27] <chrisccoulson> bdrung - ok, thanks. if we can't resolve it for final freeze, then we should probably consider dropping it :(
[12:31] <asac> chrisccoulson: whats the dropping status?
[12:31] <asac> chrisccoulson: can we go and drop whatever isnt ported yet?
[12:31] <asac> iirc gluezilla needs a sync
[12:31] <chrisccoulson> asac - the big one is sugar
[12:31] <asac> i dont see that moving forward:
[12:31] <chrisccoulson> unless someone can find the time to package pyxpcom between now and tomorrow
[12:31] <asac> a) python-xpcom is unlikely to happen
[12:32] <asac> b) i dont know if anyone would wnat to add pyxpcom to the package that needs it
[12:32] <asac> i think sugar should die ;)
[12:32]  * asac happy that i wont get the whips ;)
[12:32] <chrisccoulson> asac - i agree, but i was afraid to take the unpopular decision ;)
[12:33] <asac> problem is that mozilla decides things for us  ... they are the ones that dont want stable APIs/ABIs
[12:33] <asac> and everyone using them is doomed
[12:33] <asac> so the compromise is: a) make developers hapy now
[12:33] <asac> or b) ensure that users dont get regressions in the mniddle of lucid when pyxpcom doesnt work anymore or something
[12:33] <asac> or c) ensure that users still get security updates
[12:34] <asac> my heart is bleeding on this since a long time
[12:34] <asac> its a tough decision.
[12:36] <chrisccoulson> it is ;)
[12:37] <chrisccoulson> so, i think that the only way forward at the moment then is to drop sugar
[12:38] <asac> chrisccoulson: right. can we get a list of what we dropped?
[12:38] <asac> besides extensions that is
[12:38] <asac> one goal was to reduce the rdepends load on xulrunner
[12:38] <asac> i want to check if we need to take other unpopular decisions
[12:38] <asac> problem is that if we dont drop anything else its even harder to communicate ;)
[12:39] <chrisccoulson> asac - i'll try and find out what we dropped. i tried to do that yesterday and then realised it's quite difficult to do, as sometimes i just ping pitti about it
[12:39] <chrisccoulson> is there anywhere i can check a record of packages that get removed?
[12:39] <asac> chrisccoulson: good question :( ...
[12:39] <asac> chrisccoulson: maybe the OP pitti runs produces a log?
[12:40] <chrisccoulson> i'll try and find out
[12:40] <asac> good
[12:40] <asac> i think we might also want to drop more stuff ... especially that stuff that is working with setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the scripts
[12:40] <asac> e.g. not properly ported to xpcom glue
[12:52] <asac> enigmail uploaded
[12:52] <asac> (with source format 1.0)
[13:11] <al-maisan> hello asac, just tested enigmail (from your ppa) and the sent messages were copied to the "Sent" folder w/o any problems.
[13:11] <al-maisan> asac: sorry about the noise
[13:14] <asac> al-maisan: thanks for following up
[13:14] <asac> np
[13:14] <al-maisan> asac: thank you for packaging it :)
[13:15] <asac> its even in lucid now ;)
[13:16] <al-maisan> great!
[13:19]  * al-maisan installs it on his other laptop
[15:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I noticed a few bugs that were still open for Lucid, you got a minute?
[15:36]  * gnomefreak thinks firefox is still broken
[15:36] <micahg> gnomefreak: you'd be correct :)
[15:36] <micahg> at least in the dailies
[15:36] <gnomefreak> yep
[15:36] <micahg> archive version should be good at this point
[15:37]  * micahg goes off to compile 3.6.4~build1
[15:37] <gnomefreak> eh i still have 3.7
[15:42] <gnomefreak> well 3.7 is even  more broken goes to useing chromium i guess
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> hi micahg
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> what sort of bugs?
[15:44] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[15:44] <micahg> regression-potential
[15:44] <micahg> bug 533739
[15:44] <micahg> and bug 543064
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i've not really had time to look at those yet
[15:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, wanted to make sure they were on your radar as you said you were doing uploads today
[15:57] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i've not forgotten about them, i've just not really had time to look at them yet
[15:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, that's fine...like I said, just wanted to make sure they're on your radar
[16:08] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, i'm going to do a firefox upload in a minute. is there anything you want to get in there?
[16:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the only thing that I think is left is that Ubuntu search engine bug
[16:11] <chrisccoulson> which bug is that?
[16:14] <micahg> chrisccoulson: bug 533739
[16:18] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson, micahg: were you guys aware that in lucid UNE the firefox icon is the default gnome one (ie, the 'gears') rather than upstream?
[16:18] <jdstrand> at least it is and has been for me for some time
[16:18] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, no, i wasn't aware of that
[16:18] <micahg> jdstrand: I wasn't aware either
[16:19] <jdstrand> ok, let me purge and install anew, and I'll file a bug
[16:19] <asac> 17:18 < asac> anyone has a hotmail account ;)
[16:19] <asac> 17:18 < asac> whats the url to go to to get to the inbox?
[16:19] <jdstrand> hotmail? no way man
[16:19] <jdstrand> :P
[16:19] <asac> heh
[16:19] <asac> damn. i hoped security was subscribed to that
[16:20] <jdstrand> hehe
[16:20] <chrisccoulson> micahg - oh, ok. i'm not too concerned about that one. do you think it's worth having?
[16:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I used to use it, but there's the LP plugin, so it's not as critical IMHO, I was really wondering if it was by accident or on purpose that it was dropped
[16:21] <gnomefreak> i had a hotmail account but i dont recall login info :(
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure if it was dropped by accident or not
[16:22] <gnomefreak> hotmail+thunderbird was never good together
[16:27] <fta> asac, done (bot)
[16:29] <asac> fta: nice ;)
[16:29] <asac> we tweaked the scheduling so rebuilds can get a better share for now
[16:29] <micahg> asac: can we add the thumb2 patch from FF to TB?
[16:29] <asac> micahg: yes, we should do that
[16:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you do the TB upload yet?
[16:30]  * asac on a call
[16:31] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i've not done it just yet
[16:31] <micahg> chrisccoulson: can you wait until I get the armel patch in?
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, no problem
[16:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, thunderbird should be ready now
[16:51] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - ok, i will look at that when my laptop becomes usable again
[17:07] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson, micahg: re UNE> local issue. no bug
[18:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should we have a firefox-kde metapackage?
[18:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: asac: any objection for me to do Seamonkey 2 tonight?
[18:58] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - that's essentially what kmozillahelper already is
[18:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, the problem is people who install firefox from the archive and not kubuntu-firefox-installer doesn't know about kmozillahelper
[18:59] <chrisccoulson_> well, sort of
[18:59] <micahg> bug 559154
[19:04] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - we could probably do that, but that can wait until next cycle now. the issue is though that users will still install the firefox package rather than firefox-kde, and will still complain about not having kmozillahelper by default when they install firefox ;)
[19:04] <chrisccoulson_> much like gnome users install thunderbird without installing thunderbird-gnome-support
[19:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[19:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: what about seamonkey?
[19:04] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - if you have time, then feel free ;)
[19:04]  * micahg wants to file the FFe if we're going to do it
[19:05] <chrisccoulson_> we're cutting it a bit fine though...
[19:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, I don't really have time, but I don't see anyone else having time either
[19:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: otherwise we have to drop it
[19:06] <chrisccoulson_> yeah, that's why i mentioned dropping it a couple of days ago, but couldn't remember if that had already been discussed or not
[19:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: it was as a last result
[19:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: if I get the FFe, we have another week to get it in
[19:07] <chrisccoulson_> well, final freeze is tomorrow
[19:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: yes, but I don't think it's seeded anywhere
[19:07] <chrisccoulson_> that's true, but once we're a few days in to final freeze it will be hard to get anything in, as we need to keep the builders free
[19:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: right, but it would give me the weekend if I can't do it tonight
[19:09] <micahg> and if I can get it 95% working, we can push and do an SRU after release for the rest
[19:09] <chrisccoulson_> ok, i don't mind too much then if you want to work on that
[19:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: ok
[19:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: I think I'm doing alright on the hardy porting anyways
[19:11] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - ok, that's good then
[21:42] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: thanks for the lucid fix for bug #559881
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - no worries. i will apply the same fix for jaunty xulrunner next
[21:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: can we switch back to system NSS/NSPR for firefox 3.6 or is that set already?
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i don't think we should change that now
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> (and this is more aligned with upstream builds anyway)
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> doko has a workaround for the icedtea plugin issue
[21:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, so I guess that I can close my bug about it
[21:46] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, you can do for now. but, we can revisit that again in maverick if it causes any other issues
[21:47] <BUGabundo> evening 'p
[21:47] <chrisccoulson> hi BUGabundo
[21:56] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm just doing a test build of thunderbird, and then i will get that uploaded
[22:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: great, thanks
[23:07] <micahg> asac: do you want to add AOL mail to desktop-webmail?
[23:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: who should I set as approver for a blueprint for mozilla team stuff?
[23:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I forgot to do a TB-locales update...
[23:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: ^^^
[23:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm not sure about the blueprints. i'll try and find out
[23:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if I prepare a TB-locales update, can we still get it in?
[23:26] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, we should just be able to get that in still
[23:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should be ready in a few minutes
[23:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg - thanks
[23:42] <micahg> bdrung: you broke my thunderbird-locales with the mozilla-devscripts updates :P
[23:43] <bdrung> micahg: what did i break exactly?
[23:43] <micahg> bdrung: xul-ext path
[23:43] <micahg> bdrung: I'm fixing it...
[23:43] <bdrung> micahg: you can set override the path
[23:44] <micahg> bdrung: should I?
[23:44] <bdrung> let me check. apt-get source?
[23:44] <micahg> bdrung: is there any risk to throwing the xpis in the new dir?
[23:45] <bdrung> micahg: not that i am aware of (we link to this dir)
[23:46] <micahg> bdrung: k, I don't want to break anything on this upload :)
[23:47] <bdrung> micahg: wtf? native package?
[23:47] <micahg> bdrung: yeah, debian doesn't have this AFAIK
[23:47] <bdrung> but native?
[23:47] <micahg> bdrung: there's no official upstream tarball
[23:47] <bdrung> 3.0-0ubuntu2 -> not native
[23:48] <bdrung> debuild complains and lintian will complain too
[23:48]  * micahg didn't touch the old numbering scheme
[23:50] <bdrung> micahg: fix it! create a .orig file!
[23:51] <micahg> bdrung: asac said no
[23:51] <micahg> bdrung: that's what I originally did
[23:51] <bdrung> micahg: to fix the package you should use the -i directory, --install-dir=directory parameter for install-xpi
[23:51] <bdrung> micahg: why?
[23:52] <micahg> bdrung: is that /path/to/extension-folder or /path/to/folder-above?
[23:52] <micahg> bdrung: also, will old mozilla-devscripts ignore the -i option?
[23:52] <bdrung>  /path/to/extension-folder
[23:53] <bdrung> micahg: the old one has this option too (let me check)
[23:57] <bdrung> micahg: the parameter exists since version 0.19
[23:58] <micahg> bdrung: k, thanks
[23:58] <bdrung> asac: around?
[23:59] <bdrung> micahg: i think thunderbird-locale should stay were they are and not put into xul-ext
[23:59] <micahg> bdrung: k, I made the change