| elky | Hmm, i included the news team on the To: for the announcement email. Is there something else I needed to do to get the competition Fridge'd? | 00:11 |
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| pleia2 | first pleia2 needs to finish work | 00:17 |
| pleia2 | then I'll get it up | 00:17 |
| pleia2 | akgraner is a fridge editor now too, but she was busy today as well | 00:18 |
| elky | nhandler is too afaik, | 00:19 |
| nhandler | Need me? | 00:20 |
| pleia2 | he's mostly around in evenings, he has to proof my post anyway | 00:20 |
| pleia2 | nhandler: I'll need you in a few when I post the new UW competition to fridge | 00:20 |
| nhandler | Ah yes, it was on my todo list for after dinner ;) It is all yours if you want pleia2 | 00:20 |
| elky | also, someone get jono to RT it. Surely it's more RTworthy than RTing someone mentioning his book :P | 00:20 |
| nhandler | elky: Link to a dent? | 00:21 |
| pleia2 | nhandler: I have rough html tossed together, then work ate me | 00:21 |
| * pleia2 will finish soon | 00:21 | |
| nhandler | No rush pleia2. I'll be around probably about 5 more hours (at least) | 00:21 |
| pleia2 | great | 00:21 |
| elky | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2010-April/002759.html is the email announcement | 00:21 |
| pleia2 | yep, already mostly drafted into the announcement :) | 00:22 |
| elky | and if i can learn how identI.ca is spelled, i'll get you that | 00:22 |
| elky | http://identi.ca/notice/28397262 http://twitter.com/elkbuntu/status/12112708587 | 00:23 |
| nhandler | Retweeted and redented | 00:24 |
| elky | i need to run to work now, cyas in 40 | 00:24 |
| maco | elky: *snort* | 00:37 |
| maco | (@ jono RT priorities) | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2016 | 00:40 |
| IdleOne | Evening | 01:02 |
| IdleOne | Edith_: welcome!! | 01:02 |
| hypatia | this is an awesome contest | 01:03 |
| hypatia | :D | 01:03 |
| Edith_ | Hello IdleOne ! I'm trying to translate Base de données. Where do you want I send to you the trial ? | 01:05 |
| IdleOne | you don't have to send it to me. you can just add to the wiki page. | 01:06 |
| IdleOne | I see all the updates. | 01:06 |
| IdleOne | Edith_: this is a team project, so pleia2 has volunteered me :) as team lead for the French translations but we all work together :) | 01:07 |
| IdleOne | What I mean is that if you see an error or something that can be worded better please feel free to edit :) | 01:08 |
| IdleOne | oh | 01:08 |
| IdleOne | Thank you so much for all the excellent work you are doing! | 01:08 |
| Edith_ | It's nothing. I like it | 01:09 |
| elky | That's what contributing is all about; enjoying yourself :) | 01:10 |
| * IdleOne has not been able to do any translation the past week or so, busy with work but I do keep an eye on it | 01:11 | |
| IdleOne | dinner/souper | 01:15 |
| Edith_ | IdleOne, j'ai un problème. Je ne sais comment conserver les hyperliens, après avoir fait la traduction :( | 01:37 |
| IdleOne | quels liens exactement? | 01:37 |
| IdleOne | les liens qui dirigent aux entrevues et autre articles en anglais on ne traduit pas | 01:39 |
| IdleOne | mais on vas les inclures | 01:39 |
| IdleOne | Do we know if there is a Code of Conduct in French we can link to? | 01:40 |
| Edith_ | I don't know. | 01:42 |
| maco | that would be useful to have | 01:46 |
| elky | asking in #ubuntu-fr might be worthwhile | 01:46 |
| IdleOne | indeed | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | also in other languages | 01:54 |
| IdleOne | Who is in charge of the CoC and it's wording? irc council right? | 01:55 |
| pleia2 | community council | 01:55 |
| IdleOne | pleia2: would be nice if someone on that council can maybe find out if there is an official way of getting the CoC translated :) | 01:55 |
| pleia2 | the ubuntu website is currently undergoing the beginnings of a translations project | 01:56 |
| pleia2 | it might be included, I'm not sure | 01:56 |
| elky | It amazes me that it's taken us, what, more than 5 years to get to "beginnings of a translation project" for the website | 01:57 |
| elky | sadmaking :( | 01:57 |
| IdleOne | elky: true but atleast it is started :) | 01:58 |
| elky | yep | 01:58 |
| JanC | translating the whole site is not exactly easy | 01:58 |
| JanC | especially not keeping translations up-to-date | 01:58 |
| elky | JanC, sure, and it's harder when you don't even start. | 01:58 |
| JanC | elky: parts of the site are already translated on locoteam sites | 01:59 |
| JanC | what I understood is that ubuntu.com won't be translated, but would gain a feature to link to such translations | 02:00 |
| IdleOne | there is an unofficial translation at http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/codedeconduite | 02:00 |
| JanC | I think there is an unofficial translation in Dutch too | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | looks like that unofficial translation hasn't been updated for the latest CoC revision | 02:01 |
| IdleOne | reading over it now to see if it is close enough for us to use as a temporary fix but with a link to the official English version included | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | (not a huge deal since the nature of it is the same, but might be worth pointing out to them) | 02:01 |
| IdleOne | pleia2: that is why I thought we might be able to use with a link to official updated version | 02:02 |
| pleia2 | honestly I'm not all that familiar with translations in Ubuntu | 02:02 |
| JanC | pleia2: happy you ;) | 02:04 |
| IdleOne | ok, for now we can leave it linked to the official CoC. | 02:04 |
| elky | You know what we could really use right now? Competition translations :) | 02:04 |
| IdleOne | elky: msg me the links I'll add to the todo page | 02:05 |
| elky | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/WorldPlayDay ... http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/WorldPlayDay/Announcement ... http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/WorldPlayDay/HowToEnter ... http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/WorldPlayDay/Announcement/ModelReleaseWaiver | 02:07 |
| IdleOne | errr she left | 02:11 |
| IdleOne | I was about to ask her to look at the edits I did to http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Fr/Basededonnée so she can see the format to links in wiki :/ | 02:12 |
| IdleOne | elky: will add those links to the todo page | 02:12 |
| IdleOne | When is this contest over? | 02:33 |
| valorie | Enter before 2359UTC 14th May 2010 | 02:41 |
| IdleOne | doesn't leave much time to translate and the Release form is going to be tricky due to it's legal ramifications | 02:43 |
| IdleOne | Will do our best :) | 02:43 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it took ages to get anything released for this competition due to legal stuff | 02:43 |
| pleia2 | we were trying to get it out weeks ago :( | 02:44 |
| IdleOne | pleia2 I know, wasn't trying to blame anybody just saying :/ | 02:44 |
| pleia2 | thanks for trying | 02:44 |
| IdleOne | pleia2: CoC 1.0.1 is the updated version? | 02:59 |
| pleia2 | IdleOne: yep | 02:59 |
| IdleOne | ok | 02:59 |
| IdleOne | ok posted on the -fr forum for help with translation. Hoping to get a bunch more people involved :) | 03:33 |
| JanC | probably best make clear they have to sign the English form though | 04:11 |
| elky | Why? So long as we have someone who can validate the match, it shouldn't matter. And signing a form you don't understand verbatim is really quite wrong. | 04:14 |
| pleia2 | yeah, there should be translations in lp to sign | 04:14 |
| JanC | well, true, but we have no way to tell if a translation is correct? | 04:15 |
| pleia2 | we work with trusted members of the ubuntu community | 04:15 |
| elky | JanC, that's why you have /authorised/ translations | 04:15 |
| elky | JanC, signing something in a language you do not understand is something that IMHO should /immediately/ invalidate it. | 04:16 |
| elky | And I consider legalese to be a language in this respect. | 04:16 |
| JanC | elky: true, but OTOH, it has to be legally sound, even if it's in plain English, French, etc. ☺ | 04:17 |
| IdleOne | JanC: the French version links to the English. I agree with elky and pleia2 that we need official translations. | 04:18 |
| IdleOne | only the CC can approve those unless I am mistaken | 04:18 |
| elky | or appoint someone to do so, yes | 04:19 |
| JanC | I was talking about the release form ;) | 04:19 |
| pleia2 | a process will have to be established, none exists | 04:19 |
| elky | JanC, even more important then | 04:19 |
| IdleOne | So I will edit the current French translation to reflect CoC1.0.1 and propose soon as I can. Probably Thursday or Friday. | 04:20 |
| pleia2 | thanks IdleOne :) | 04:20 |
| JanC | elky: it' something that goes both ways, I agree that nobody should sign a model release form they don't undertsand, but how can you use the photographs if you don't understand what they signed? ☺ | 04:20 |
| elky | JanC, because we delegate to someone we do trust to testify to us | 04:21 |
| IdleOne | then CC can decide on process quicker since they will already have a propsed version to approve :) | 04:21 |
| IdleOne | proposed* | 04:21 |
| elky | like IdleOne for french, etc | 04:21 |
| elky | JanC, the burden is on /us/, not the signatory | 04:22 |
| * IdleOne puts the pen in the French peoples hand and MAKES them sign | 04:26 | |
| IdleOne | *bad french accent spoken in English* Yuu will sign zee paper or I will break zee face | 04:27 |
| IdleOne | lol | 04:27 |
| IdleOne | I could of mistyped that a lot funnier | 04:28 |
| IdleOne | oh well | 04:28 |
| IdleOne | monolinguals, go figure | 04:29 |
| pleia2 | pfft, monolinguals | 04:29 |
| pleia2 | oh wait | 04:29 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 04:29 |
| IdleOne | pleia2: you speak typoese also | 04:29 |
| pleia2 | yeah! | 04:29 |
| JanC | learning a second language isn't mandatory in the US? ☺ | 04:32 |
| IdleOne | learning a first language is mandatory | 04:33 |
| IdleOne | isn't* | 04:33 |
| JanC | IdleOne: you sure? | 04:33 |
| IdleOne | US doesn't have a official language | 04:33 |
| IdleOne | So learning it can't be mandatory | 04:34 |
| * IdleOne uses own logic to convince himself he is right | 04:34 | |
| JanC | even then, they should make learning multiple languages mandatory IMHO | 04:34 |
| JanC | in Belgium it's mandatory from 10yo on (or 8yo in Brussels & some other bilingual regions IIRC) | 04:35 |
| JanC | so my French isn't very good because I don't practice is, but I still know when somebody makes an error in French (and I guess speaking it would improve quickly if I lived some place where French would be useful) | 04:38 |
| akgraner | Just walked back in the door - gave a talk tonight - but it was a 6 hour drive round trip | 04:53 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: how'd the talk go? | 04:53 |
| akgraner | great - a women that teaches at ECPI gave one talk - history of open source | 04:54 |
| pleia2 | cool | 04:54 |
| akgraner | she was cool - but I was sad that the 1st 5 mins was all about how she was qualified to give the talk | 04:54 |
| akgraner | I was sad she felt she had to justify why she was qualified I should say | 04:55 |
| pleia2 | I have gone back and forth on that point, ended with everyone agreeing that giving qualifications is good | 04:55 |
| akgraner | Yeah I liked it - but you could tell that she felt she had too | 04:56 |
| akgraner | so she is going to check out the UW site | 04:57 |
| akgraner | I showed her some of it - and she said her students would really like it | 04:57 |
| akgraner | :-) | 04:57 |
| akgraner | so that was cool | 04:57 |
| pleia2 | yay :) | 04:57 |
| akgraner | and I told her all about the learning project | 04:58 |
| pleia2 | I am hoping we can make more progress on learning in the next cycle | 04:58 |
| akgraner | and all the "ubuntu" weeks stuff - she was really interested in all that - most of the folks really wanted to know more about quickly, opportunistic developer and developer weeks | 04:59 |
| akgraner | how the server devels differ from desktop devels | 04:59 |
| pleia2 | cool | 04:59 |
| akgraner | and the cool part - I knew what to tell them | 04:59 |
| pleia2 | yay you! :) | 04:59 |
| akgraner | oh and Lernid blew their mind | 05:00 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it really is way better than just irc for new users | 05:00 |
| akgraner | people were like where can I find more info on that | 05:00 |
| pleia2 | classbot now posts the link to the slides at the beginning of the session too, so people on irc can follow along easier | 05:00 |
| akgraner | by the end of the talk even the non-ubuntu users were looking at Ubuntu Community stuff and how they could get involved | 05:00 |
| pleia2 | :D | 05:01 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I have to learn how to use all that before open week | 05:01 |
| akgraner | :-) | 05:01 |
| pleia2 | hehe, maybe we'll give a classbot class | 05:01 |
| pleia2 | it's not too hard though | 05:01 |
| pleia2 | and there are some test channels set up if you want to practice sometime | 05:02 |
| akgraner | pleia2, yep I would love too - I'll block some time tomorrow | 05:04 |
| akgraner | John and I are going over stuff most of the day tomorrow | 05:04 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: tomorrow isn't good for me (I'll be hangning out with pgraner for a few days!) so grab either nhandler or cjohnston | 05:05 |
| akgraner | hehe - so he *is* there :-) | 05:05 |
| pleia2 | I'm sure either of them would be happy to get you set up for some testing :) | 05:05 |
| pleia2 | well, I haven't seen him yet ;) | 05:06 |
| akgraner | I snag one of them - gotta talk to cjohnston anyways | 05:06 |
| pleia2 | cool | 05:06 |
| pleia2 | he can set up a test session with you as the instructor and feed you soem QUESTION:s | 05:06 |
| akgraner | ahh ok cool | 05:06 |
| nhandler | I'll be around tomorrow evening if desired | 05:07 |
| akgraner | collaboration summit starts tomorrow right? | 05:07 |
| akgraner | nhandler, awesome! | 05:07 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: yep | 05:07 |
| pleia2 | and Myrtti will be there too \o/ | 05:08 |
| akgraner | nhandler, there is a guy - john someone - I meet him tonight at the LUG meeting I spoke at - I gave him your name as the script guru - he loves writing scripts so you came to mind... | 05:08 |
| nhandler | :) | 05:08 |
| pleia2 | nhandler is an /everything/ guru | 05:09 |
| akgraner | pleia2, cool - hope you all have a great time | 05:09 |
| nhandler | akgraner: You might also like http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/myslides/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/ClassBot (for classbot) | 05:09 |
| nhandler | Right now, I'm going to be the Sleeping Guy. Night | 05:09 |
| * akgraner bookmarks those links | 05:09 | |
| pleia2 | night nhandler | 05:09 |
| akgraner | thanks and goodnight | 05:09 |
| IdleOne | Ok I have created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Proposed/frCodeOfConduct and sent email to the community council | 06:07 |
| IdleOne | on an UGH note: I posted on the -fr forum asking for help with translation and I have received my first " Why do Women need an Ubuntu Women Project" response :/ | 06:08 |
| pleia2 | welcome to our world :) | 06:09 |
| elky | Sounds about right. | 06:09 |
| IdleOne | :) EFFIN happy to be here | 06:09 |
| elky | We'll check back on you in a month for any changes to that statement. | 06:09 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 06:09 |
| IdleOne | well least I know where to go to get support and encouragement | 06:10 |
| elky | hehe | 06:10 |
| IdleOne | :P | 06:10 |
| * IdleOne is learning and applying the look on the bright side of things philosophy | 06:10 | |
| IdleOne | So where do we keep the cookies in this world? | 06:11 |
| * pleia2 opens the cookie jar and gets a cookie for IdleOne | 06:12 | |
| IdleOne | nom nommy nom nom | 06:12 |
| pleia2 | :) | 06:12 |
| IdleOne | Good night! | 06:21 |
| maco | IdleOne: if you join #kubuntu-devel i might be able to convince kubotu to give you cookies :P | 06:31 |
| elky | !cookies | 06:39 |
| ubot2 | Cookies are delicious delicacies. | 06:39 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:23 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: pong | 07:38 |
| AlanBell | ping czajkowski | 08:22 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: pong | 09:14 |
| AlanBell | hi | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | the spreadsheet needs updating, but I know you don't have much time | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | I was thinking of just going through the process here, so you and everyone can follow along | 09:16 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: I've penciled in Sunday to work on UW stuff | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | and laugh at my weak spreadsheeting skills | 09:16 |
| czajkowski | tomorrow talking at a GGD meet up, friday work on ossbarcamp, saturday IS OSSbarcamp so Sunday is looking good | 09:16 |
| czajkowski | :) | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: is Sunday OK or do you want an update today? | 09:17 |
| AlanBell | saturday is the Science Museum visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ScienceMuseumVisit | 09:18 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: is it urgent it needs doing? | 09:19 |
| czajkowski | I guess I could work on it tonight in between runs to airport? | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | akgraner is doing something with the data | 09:20 |
| akgraner | Alan Sunday is fine I can use what is there for now :-) or is it up to date through March? | 09:20 |
| akgraner | Just need to know where the cutoff is - not in those sheets at the moment of I would look :-/ | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | cutoff is somewhere in March, probably at the start of the month | 09:22 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, that will work - don't spend too much time - it's not that critical and I can always go back and up date once you tell me its ready :-) | 09:23 |
| AlanBell | ok, lets go through it on Sunday then czajkowski | 09:23 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: adding to google cal now what time suits | 09:24 |
| akgraner | Thank you!! | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | gosh, I am not that organised! | 09:24 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: my bad. | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | um some time on Sunday, after I wake up, before I pass out | 09:24 |
| czajkowski | if tis in google cal I get a reminder and I also look at it when planning other bits and bobs | 09:25 |
| czajkowski | ok | 09:25 |
| AlanBell | actually sunday might not be so great | 11:06 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: ok | 11:06 |
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| althara | Any other ubuntu women people going to LinuxFest Northwest? | 20:15 |
| althara | http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org | 20:15 |
| althara | Also do we have a flier for Ubuntu Women that I can print up and have at the Washington LoCo table? | 20:16 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: yes it's on the wiki | 20:17 |
| akgraner | althara, we have some stuff on the resources page | 20:17 |
| czajkowski | under resournces | 20:17 |
| czajkowski | *resources | 20:17 |
| czajkowski | :) | 20:17 |
| akgraner | one sec I'll grab you the link | 20:17 |
| akgraner | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Resources | 20:17 |
| althara | Yay | 20:19 |
| althara | Thanks | 20:19 |
| althara | Just order a bunch of busines cards using the designs elky put up. Woohoo! | 20:35 |
| althara | ordered, even my brain is slow today | 20:36 |
| akgraner | they are really great and people think they are really cool | 20:37 |
| akgraner | svaksha, ping | 22:18 |
| akgraner | do you have like 5 mins need to get some stats from you on the mailing list if you have a sec I can let you know what I am looking for :-) | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: fwiw jamfish over in -women is also a list admin | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | also - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2010-April/000953.html | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | "Canonical is slowing moving away from Drupal. ...There is a Drupal to Wordpress migration" | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | this matters to us because it looks like canonical is going to start supporting wordpress | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | which I believe is the better option for this team blog-wise | 23:23 |
| valorie | yay althara!!!!!!!!!! | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | if this is the case, we should probably hold off on our blog (which wasn't officially a cycle goal anyway, just the static website was) and wait until they can offer us wordpress | 23:24 |
| * valorie is gonna try to be at the fest | 23:24 | |
| valorie | it's a long drive though | 23:24 |
| akgraner | pleia2, thanks! | 23:26 |
| * AlanBell huggles wordpress | 23:55 | |
| AlanBell | http://votegeek.org.uk is a wordpress site and it was easy peasy | 23:55 |
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