[00:03] Oh.. Stanley Cup playouff are starting [00:16] starshiptrooper: might help: http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === jonathan_ is now known as jjesse-netbook [02:08] Hmmm... can anybody confirm having difficulty unlocking a disk at boot with plymouth? [02:08] At first I thought it was my imagination, but it is happening often enough for me to think there's an issue. I can usually unlock a disk on the first try if I boot in rescue mode (and enter my passphrase without it going through a plymouth theme). But if I boot normally, it takes me 6-7 tries. [02:28] ryanakca: I'd ask in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-devel [02:28] I don't think Plymouth would affect it, but I don't really know. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [02:33] ScottK: question on netbook, dont know if this is something different on my netbook or a decision but the top bar (dont know what is called) with the minimize, close, maximize is missing [02:33] jjesse-netbook: By design to maximize vertical space. [02:34] jjesse-netbook: On the right end of the panel, there's a app control that effectively replaces that. [02:35] ok [02:35] took me awhile to figure out that app control :) [02:39] amichair: yeah, just forgot to upload. ;) [02:39] doing that right now [02:39] JontheEchidna: What are you uploading? [02:39] ScottK: kubuntu-notification-helper [02:39] Ah, OK. [02:40] ScottK: tHANKS [02:40] Thanks [02:40] [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas (The man) * echidnaman@gmail.com-20100415014011-fqro6kwh3xtos899 * src/daemon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Correctify iterators for stability and optimization [02:41] amichair: uploaded, thanks [02:42] I do have a patch for kde4libs [02:42] anybody else have anything for kde4libs? [02:42] (mine is to fix: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227117 ) [02:42] KDE bug 227117 in kdecore "Further attempts to authenticate fail if one closes the dialog after a wrong password" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [02:43] JontheEchidna: You might grab Debian's package and pull in their debian/copyright updates. [02:44] good idea [02:47] * ScottK already did that for -runtime and -workspace. [02:47] and if you see anything else in the package we clearly want [02:51] hrmm ok wierd question how do i renable compositing if i dont have an f12? [02:53] jjesse-netbook: system settings [02:54] Desktop -> Desktop Effects [02:58] whew, got the upload in seconds before freeze was announced in #ubuntu-devel :D === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu <3 Channel | Test ISO images! (see kubuntu-devel ML for special details) | Beta 2 Released!, Final freeze in effect | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 Only 9 left to fix! [03:02] hrmm didn === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [03:02] oh man I am exhausted [03:03] yeah? [03:03] I trained for 6 hours today [03:03] in the saddle for 6 hours....talk about sore ass [03:04] JontheEchidna scores the second package in the freeze queue. [03:04] aww, didn't make it :( [03:04] someone is going to have to figure out how to import and package the translations for kubuntu-docs fyi...i can't do it, not even going to try to be honest [03:04] or, just leave it, and not ship translations with lucid, but release them afterwards [03:05] I might have a new computer sometime this year [03:05] * nixternal wonders why he is even online as he is absolutely useless [03:06] waiting for your insurance to get you a new computer? [03:07] not gonna happen [03:08] wait until i have some money to spend on a puter...hopefully sometime this year, would be nice [03:08] good luck [03:08] JontheEchidna: Accepted. [03:09] hrmm wish i knew the process for importing and packaging the translations for kubuntudocs [03:09] can someone help? [03:09] i think i am the only one who has done them since 2005 [03:10] before me, it was mdke doing them [03:10] argh [03:10] can you send mdke an emaiL? [03:10] poke him on irc [03:10] nixternal: Do you have the process available, but just not the computing power, or do you lack the process as well? [03:11] though i doubt mdke will even have time for them [03:11] persia: the process actually needs to be created and played with, though hopefully with dpm rocking lp and translations it should be smoother...and yes, I have 0 computing power [03:12] Oh :( I have spare CPU cycles, but not time. [03:12] in the past our translations from LP were such shit that you had to wing the process [03:12] now they are slightly better shit [03:12] instead of total shit [03:13] yeah, i am probably going to be lacking the time as well....i think i am going to start concentrating on cycling more so than open source contributions [03:13] Given your available CPU cycles, I think that makes sense :) [03:13] hrmm [03:13] yeah i guess it does [03:13] that it does, perfect timing I guess [03:14] how much EPO do I have to take to become powerful like Lance? [03:14] more then you can afford? [03:14] haha, so true [03:15] plus with piss tests all of the time, I wouldn't even think about it [03:18] Speed: 9.88 (mi/hr) (avg) 37.01 (mi/hr) (max) [03:18] hills rock! [03:18] though slow as hill avg, and 37.01 max, sitting up, not even pedaling [03:19] If I pedaled, I would have been doing about 60mph, maybe a bit more [03:31] Hey nixternal [03:32] 60mph.. where you going down a mountain? [03:32] -h [03:33] just a hill, and a hill htat is actually close to my house that I didn't even know about [03:33] time trials on sunday, I was doing 43MPH on flats just pedaling [03:34] I can't keep that though, but I can get up to 40MPH quickly, but as soon as I do, I am damn near dead [03:34] well. you hit the wall [03:35] bicycling is about oxygen [03:35] Lance is so good because he has such a big lung volumn [03:35] nixternal: Does EPO enlarge your lungs? [03:36] and heart volumn too actually [03:37] EPO enhances the oxygen carrying capacity of your blood. [03:38] So it has parallel effects. [03:38] increaces your VO2Max [03:38] that's because lance is a doper [03:39] 43mph is quite high... even the peloton is not doing that [03:39] depends....the peloton can hit up to 60mph on a rapid burst of accelleration [03:42] JontheEchidna: You still win. KNH was the last pre-freeze upload. [03:43] \o/ [03:44] My closest one was 10th to last. [03:46] Dapper has had ~53K uploads in it's lifetime. Lucid is already over 115K. [03:47] measure twice, cut once [03:47] to bad nobody thinks about that when packaging [03:55] Where is that number from? [03:57] persia: Number of results listed on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text= [03:57] (and the similar page for Dapper) [04:10] ScottK: i wonder would the -changes email archive say the same thing, seems like the same info [04:10] just pre-parsed [04:11] Probably. I just happened to be on the LP page and noticed. [04:11] hehe yea [04:11] i wonder if seveas still runs the rss versions of the -changes email list [04:12] might be someting to intergrate ( or re-write ) for ubuntuwire , hum , maybe a weekend project [04:12] I think so. [04:12] imbrandon: Universe is still open for fixing. Please go fix me some FTBFS. [04:12] those were nice when i used them, better than the ML imho [04:13] Yep [04:13] sure thing ScottK , and i can actualy upload those changes LOL [04:13] Yep [04:14] actualy i'm finishing a late dinner then i planed on some bug squishing, if you have any specific pet peeves lemme know i'll get to them in the next hour(s) , no RL work till next monday so i got lots of time next few days [04:16] imbrandon: Pleanty of choices in /topic of #ubuntu-motu [04:16] ohh also i ment to ask you the other night, a kind word or three on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrandonHoltsclaw in the endorsement section, not sure if i'll need them for a renew but dosent hurt [04:17] :) ok lemme scarf down the food, brb [04:19] main is solid frozen correct ? [04:19] ( food down btw , not that any care ) [04:20] Reasonably solid. [04:20] k [04:20] If there's critical bug fixes, put them in queue and they'll be reviewed. [04:20] right [04:20] There's still time between RC and Final for Main stuff to get in. [04:21] yea i dident have anything in mind, just makin sure i was clear [04:22] imbrandon: You should probably update your wiki page and talk about your return before I add an endorsement [04:23] yea i actualy have that in draft, need to finalize it, will do and ping ya again [04:23] * ScottK nods [04:25] i picked up a sweet dual quad core intel ( 8 cores total ) and 16gb ram mac pro today VERY cheap [04:25] thats gonna make a NICE build / dev machine when i get it setup [04:26] cheap == less than $200 USD [04:26] no harddrives or video card, but those are reasonable [04:27] pfft, my netbook will run circles around it [04:27] heya nix [04:28] nix, yea it came from a firedamage sale, banged up case but other than that , wow, sweet machine === clay_doh is now known as claydoh [04:32] www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='7188-69' [04:32] that's where my money is going currently [04:33] You use money in Chicago? I thought you just exchanged favors with gangsters. [04:34] lol [04:35] * ScottK casually notes that billing for 18 hours instead of 81 is not a good plan. [04:36] ganstahs don't cycle though, otherwise that would be a different story...and they don't know which train this stuff comes in on, so they can't jack a train [04:43] pkgstriptranslations: The following PO/POT files are empty [04:43] err [04:43] mt [04:45] starshiptrooper is our translations expert and he loves it when I say that. [04:50] lol [04:50] yea these are just ftb because of empty po{,t} files [04:50] low hanging fruit [04:50] but easy to miss beacuse it will build in a normal pbuilder [04:51] s/normal/default [04:53] the next question is do i make a patch, just rm the .po files or use a debian/*.pre* file [04:53] lol [04:56] ( thats retorical btw incase someone misintriprets that ) [05:12] Good night all. [05:13] valorie: crimsun was giving a talk called "Making Ubuntu Audio Not Suck" at CALUG, and i was attending it when you pinged [05:13] gnight ScottK [06:02] ScottK: OOo on ARM is building, we should hopefuly have it fixed [06:22] NCommander: we'll see it in couple days [06:22] Tm_T: if it fails to build, we'll have to unseed OOo from kubuntu-netbook on ARM [06:25] heh [06:26] not good, I guess [06:48] hey maco [06:48] I went off to hang out with my daddy for awhile [09:19] hey all, could someone tell me which is the source package for the application to change languages in Kubuntu? I've filed bug 563259 against language-selector, but I'm not sure it is the right package [09:19] Launchpad bug 563259 in language-selector "Language selector shows duplicate language names in Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563259 [09:51] JontheEchidna: Thanks. [09:56] JontheEchidna: Although, I don't see the merge mentioned in lp (neither in branch nor trunk) - ? [10:06] amichair: are you still working on ubiquity? [10:07] ofirk: I don't have much free time this week, but trying to fix things here and there [10:08] amichair: last week I translated the whole ubiquity slideshow. I wanted to finalize the translation for the installer itself but I can't find its entry in Rosseta [10:08] amichair: do you know where the translation files are? [10:09] ofirk, the installer is ubiquity-debconf and debian-installer, but today is NonLanguagePackDeadline, so I think you won't have more time to translate them [10:10] ofirk: I'm actually not familiar with the translations procedures [10:11] ofirk, if you go to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu and you click on your language, on the next page you'll see the translations I was mentioning [10:11] dpm: what a bummer. thanks anyway amichair! [10:11] dpm: if I translate it now, will it be included in the final release? [10:11] dpm: all translations frozen till release? till RC release? [10:13] amichair, not all translations. We've got two deadlines: NonLanguagePackDeadline (today) and LanguagePackDeadline (on the 22nd). The one today affects those things that go into the LiveCD (e.g. the installer) or documentation, in short, things that cannot go into the language packs. For all the rest, there is time until the 22nd [10:14] dpm: are exceptions possible? for example, if the entire slideshow is not translated at all and ofirk has a translation... pretty important to include, no? is there breakage danger in updating translations? [10:16] amichair: the slideshow was translated last week. in launchpad. so I guess it *will* be included. [10:16] amichair: it also seems that the entire installer is translated, so I guess all the translation work is done for ubiquity [10:19] amichair, there is no risk in breaking translations with exceptions (well, there is always the possibility to do something really wrong :), but if the exception is granted is up to the developers. Basically, everyone is busy getting the release ready, and the deadlines were well known since the start of the cycle [10:20] but as ofirk says, it seems you should be fine with the installer translations and the slideshow :) [10:21] dpm: ah, so it's just a work overhead issue at this point [10:21] yes :) [10:21] ofirk, amichair, in the future, I'd recommend you to subscribe to ubuntu-translators if you are doing translations and want to be kept up-to-date [10:22] ofirk: I think I misunderstood then, I thought u had just finished translations and wanted to upload them or something - if it's all in already, that's great :-) [10:22] dpm: thanks for clarifying :-) [10:22] no worries :) [10:22] dpm: yes, thanks :) [10:25] dpm: What, me worry? :-) [10:26] amichair: what exactly you do on ubiquity? RTL support? [10:27] ofirk: nope, started off with lower hanging fruit - progress bars, alignment, usability/display issues (on the code side, not translations), then into more critical milestone bugs (things slow/stuck etc.) [10:28] ofirk: I did notice the front/back arrow buttons are reversed in RTL, but that's of lower priority [10:28] ofirk: or rather, not reversed as they should be :-) [10:29] amichair: yes :) [10:30] amichair: actually there are other issues. I don't know if they are artwork related... [10:31] amichair: anyway, is there anyone who works on RTL issues? [10:31] ofirk: so u can open bugs on them if they don't exist, and/or discuss with shtylman. btw, I recently discovered the dedicated #ubuntu-installer channel for it! [10:32] amichair: wow. ubuntu has a lot of channels O_O [10:32] yeah, I keep discovering more of them :-) [10:33] amichair: are you an Hebrew speaker? [10:34] ofirk: yep [10:35] amichair: its nice to see there are more members from Israel [10:41] starshiptrooper: last quassel doesn't start, it crashes every time you try to start [10:41] lex79: quassel or the core? [10:42] quassel [10:42] lex79: client or mono? [10:42] lex79: qt4 or kde4? [10:42] omg [10:42] starshiptrooper: I've installed quassel and quassel-data [10:43] lex79: also, yesterday we noticed that the xscreensaver upload did not strip the desktop file, whereas everything in /etc by defautl a conffile and hence not removed on its own [10:44] I saw your changes ;) [10:44] which I now, that I see the wiki page, remember to have stumbled across quite some time ago [10:44] * starshiptrooper shall not forget that again [10:45] starshiptrooper: so the question is when we drop a file in /etc the preinst script is required, right? [10:45] s/question/issue [10:45] lex79: http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling [10:45] kk [10:47] ofirk: yeah, most I think are us/uk/de/au/(fi?), but il also has some contributors :-) [10:48] amichair: are you a member in ubuntu-il.com? [10:48] ofirk: I'm not a member of anything officially... I just fix things that need fixing ;-) [10:52] ofirk: plus I haven't seen that much kubuntu in those parts, mostly ubuntu or offtopic :-( [10:53] amichair: yes, you are right [10:53] amichair: I am a member there, actually a not active member ;) [10:55] Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233159 [10:55] KDE bug 233159 in general "rekonq addressbar (url bar) has encoding problems (e g non-latin letters)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [10:55] Riddell: there is a working patch for this one, which I can confirm.... [10:56] Riddell: still possible for a late upload ? [10:57] Tonio__: should be possible yes [10:58] Riddell: ok [10:59] Riddell: are langpacks built alread? [10:59] Riddell: can I fix bug 563591 real quick? ^^ [10:59] Launchpad bug 563591 in kdebase-workspace "systemsettings disapeared from kmenu after yesterday update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563591 [11:00] I don't actually see an e-mail from slangasek about being frozen, maybe we aren't yet [11:00] dpm will know about langpacks [11:00] dpm: ping ping [11:01] Riddell: Ill just upload and see if something explodes :) [11:01] starshiptrooper, hi hi! [11:01] dpm: are final langpacks already built? [11:02] dpm: or a more particular question: can you drop a mail to ubuntu-devel AND/OR kubuuntu-devel once the packs are done? [11:02] starshiptrooper, the final language packs will be built on the 22nd, at LanguagePackDeadline (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule) [11:02] dpm: ok, cool [11:02] starshiptrooper, sure, I can send an e-mail to both [11:02] * starshiptrooper would like to avoid last minute fixes this time round :/ [11:02] dpm: perfect thanks :) [11:03] np :) [11:03] Riddell, would you know the answer to my question earlier? -> hey all, could someone tell me which is the source package for the application to change languages in Kubuntu? I've filed bug 563259 against language-selector, but I'm not sure it is the right package [11:03] Launchpad bug 563259 in language-selector "Language selector shows duplicate language names in Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563259 [11:04] dpm: kdebase-runtime [11:04] that is upstream's interface which changes the language for the current user [11:05] starshiptrooper, a, thanks, I'll open a task for that, then. I would have thought that there'd be a more specific package for that [11:05] Riddell: kdevelop is not in lucid archive, we have only kdevplatform beta, what we have to do? [11:06] lex79: kdevelop doesn't have a stable version, it's not ment to be in the archive [11:06] kdevplatform needs to be removed [11:06] dpm: please assign to me while you are at it :) [11:07] they should both be in beta PPA [11:07] starshiptrooper, alrighty [11:07] Riddell: but at least we should have kdevelop kde3 in the archive, no? [11:07] Riddell: I won't be able to fix... changes fromstable version are too big and the patch doesn't fit [11:08] lex79: too much bit rot there. I've discussed it with upstream ages ago and their preferred way is to have it in PPAs [11:09] oh ok [11:10] [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100415101052-5wrhb2v2kwhdgtz7 * (6 files in 5 dirs) releasing version 1:10.04ubuntu22 [11:13] quassel 0.6~rc1+git100331-0ubuntu1 produces uninstallable binaries: * quassel (amd64) [11:13] huh? [11:14] * starshiptrooper doesnt have amd64 to test [11:14] lex79: quassel doesnt crash here, maybe you should turn off apport and get a backtrace [11:15] ok [11:16] ooh, whats the issue with quassel? [11:16] 0.6.0 doesn't start, it crashes [11:16] * jussi prod at ScottK, wondering if he is awake yet. [11:16] Sput: you about? [11:17] the only change was that we made the -data package carry a link from the KDE 4 data to Qt 4 data dir [11:17] and fix a lintian warning in init [11:18] * starshiptrooper doesnt see how either of those would cause the problem and suspects a bug upstream [11:18] but you never know [11:18] * starshiptrooper hates bugs [11:18] I try now [11:22] starshiptrooper: http://pastebin.ca/1861597 [11:23] ops maybe I don't have dbg installed [11:23] drkonqi tells you that I think ^^ [11:29] JontheEchidna: I would imagine adding a lot of window exceptions for that dont-blend-with-gtk-shiz will have a performance downside [11:30] at least on startup kwin needs to walk through each rule and check if it matches [11:31] * starshiptrooper now has a cataln interface :D [11:32] starshiptrooper: I installed manually dbg package since I have this error: http://imagebin.ca/view/v5Ciz6M.html [11:33] btw the backtrace is here: http://pastebin.ca/1861615 [11:33] * starshiptrooper is wondering if that dialog was not supposed to ahve a details button [11:33] oh well [11:33] lex79: what backtracey do you get [11:34] dpm: can you please run locate entry.desktop ... I fail to reproduce that bug of yours [11:34] this http://pastebin.ca/1861615 === starshiptrooper changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu <3 Channel | Test ISO images! (see kubuntu-devel ML for special details) | Beta 2 Released!, Waiting for Final freeze | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 Only 9 left to fix! [11:35] lex79: that is with quassel-dbg? [11:35] yes :( [11:35] did you reload the bt after installing it? [11:35] yes [11:36] I start quassel with dbg package installed [11:36] me: ping [11:36] me: crash [11:36] me: now! [11:36] starshiptrooper: idiot! [11:36] lol [11:36] starshiptrooper, unfortunately I was not the one experiencing it, I just filed it for Pau, the guy replying in the comments, and I'm on my Ubuntu system now. I think the best thing might be to ask him in the bug report to provide that info. In the meantime, I can try to reproduce it on a virtual machine. [11:37] ah [11:38] dpm: to me that looks like he got kde-l10n from debian installed, since that specific button gets filled from entry.desktop in the local search paths, so the only way how this can appear is IMHO when you get a mixture of our's and upstream's [11:38] which either means that kde-l10n-FOO is from one of our backport ppas (incredibly unlikely) or that the kde-l10n-FOO does not come from us at all [11:41] starshiptrooper, he's been testing the Catalan Valencian translations. He must have installed kde-l10n-ca and kde-l10n-ca-valencia. I noticed that somehow kde-l10n-ca-valencia is in universe. Could that be the problem? Would it be possible to promote kde-l10n-ca-valencia to main? (it is as well maintained as the -ca version) [11:41] lex79: I really cant reproduce you crash .. are you on i386? [11:41] amd64 [11:42] dpm: are the other kde-l10n packages in main? [11:42] * Guest34932 looks [11:42] oh [11:42] wrong window ^^ [11:42] starshiptrooper: kill me [11:42] Guest34932: certainly [11:42] ^^ [11:42] Guest34932, starshiptrooper, yes :) [11:43] lex79: Riddell posted a statement that quassel on amd64 is uninstallable or something? [11:43] Riddell: can you please promote kde-l10n-ca-valencia to main? [11:43] dpm: I doubt that is the issue though [11:43] ok [11:43] I can upgrade quassel from rc1 to 0.6.0 and I can install it. There is no problem here for installation [11:44] If it's on amd64, I suspect it's not built yet. [11:44] amd64 was way behind i386 building last I looked [11:44] lex79: are you on 0.6.0? [11:44] no, now I'm on rc1, 0.6.0 crashes [11:44] I mean [11:45] can you upgrade quassel to 0.6.0 [11:45] yes [11:45] or only -data [11:45] are you a 100% positive on this? :P [11:45] nope, amd64 is built https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/0.6.0-0ubuntu1/+build/1691443 [11:46] kk\ [11:46] -data is all arch and is built [11:46] lex79: please strace -f quassel [11:46] kk [11:47] 0.6.0 works fine here on i386, FYI. [11:47] here too [11:47] AHA [11:47] ! [11:47] dpm: reproduced [11:48] starshiptrooper, ahhh, "nice" [11:48] what is nice about a but? :P [11:48] s/but/bug [11:49] * starshiptrooper thinks KDE needs a kcm naming policy [11:51] hmmm [11:51] yeah, exactly the problem I expected [11:51] just that so it would see at least [11:51] starshiptrooper: strace -f quassel > strace is right ? [11:52] lex79: strace -f -o output.txt quassel [11:52] * ScottK decides to leave the fate of Kubuntu in starshiptrooper's capable hands and naps. [11:52] http://pastebin.ca/1861635 [11:53] Riddell: bug 563259 ... duplicated entries in kde's langauge dropdown becuase kde-l10n AND the langpacks ship the entry.desktop file - as solution I'd propose to drop the desktop file from the kde-l10n-* packages [11:53] Launchpad bug 563259 in language-selector "Language selector shows duplicate language names in Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563259 [11:55] well output.txt is 10 MB [11:58] lex79: lzma -9 output.txt [11:58] then ship it off to me [11:59] starshiptrooper: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/output.txt.lzma [12:00] starshiptrooper: I'd agree on that solution, do you know if this is a new problem or has always been there? [12:01] Riddell: new since before we did not install kde-l10n-* via langauge-selector [12:01] starshiptrooper: kde-l10n-ca-valencia in main [12:01] Riddell: additionally there is another problem with translations it seems... the entry.desktop from langpack lacks translations [12:02] quassel seems to install fine on amd64, must have been a temporary problem at the time the CDs were made [12:02] which is in fact how this duplication occurs to begin with, because if they both had the same translations they would cascade [12:02] which is unfortuantely no the case righ tnow [12:03] quassel does however crash on running :) [12:03] :( [12:03] agateau: have you seen the kmail unread font issue? people are saying it's too small [12:04] Riddell: no [12:04] Riddell: bug number? [12:04] oh oh oh [12:04] Riddell: lex79 gets a crash too, on i386 it works perfectly fine though [12:04] Riddell: my connection is going to be unstable for the next minutes [12:05] Riddell: also, I must correct myself, the langpack entry.desktop files contain translations, while the kde-l10n packages do not (thanks ot pkgbinarymangler I suppose), so the way to go is indeed strip the entry.desktop from kde-l10n [12:05] \o/ [12:05] * starshiptrooper will fix in a bit [12:05] agateau: there is no open bug in LP, see this: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoppz1586-jpg.jpg [12:06] lex79, Riddell: does quassel work with a new account? [12:07] lex79, Riddell: if that gets answered with no - does quassel work if you remove /usr/share/apps/quassel? [12:07] lex79, Riddell: if that gets answered with no as well -> upstream bug [12:08] or maybe someone broke something in that recent Qt upload ;) [12:08] I have to try [12:08] brb [12:09] quassel does seem to work with a new account yes [12:09] Riddell: are the entry.desktop files from the langpacks in anyway related to kde-l10n-* ... i.e. is there regression potential? [12:10] starshiptrooper: yes they come into langpack-o-matic using the script update-kde-tars [12:11] which grabs them from kde-l10n-xx [12:11] Riddell: but from the source? [12:12] yes [12:12] ok [12:12] * starshiptrooper would strip the entry.desktop via rules in kde-l10n at build time as to avoid problems [12:12] it says "Disconnected from core" with a new account [12:13] http://pastebin.ca/1861657 [12:13] I tried to remove /usr/share/apps/quassel but I've the same issue [12:14] psql? [12:14] wtf? [12:14] lex79: is libqt4-sqlite or what it's called installed? [12:15] starshiptrooper: libqt4-sql-sqllite is installed [12:16] psql <3 [12:17] lex79: ask in #quassel [12:17] I do not think that is a kubuntu issue [12:21] agateau: I don't think there's a bug number for the kmail icon issue but the text is said to be too small [12:21] agateau: http://imagebin.ca/view/437HGcC.html [12:29] Riddell: going to have a look at it this afternoon [12:30] wat is tc1 en 2 trouwens? as in, science park? [12:30] uhh [12:30] wrong chan [12:52] starshiptrooper, Riddell, another question on the ca@valencia translations. I've filed bug 563755 against the language pack, but I'm not sure I should add a task for the kde packaging side (kde-l10n-ca or some other one?). I still don't understand whether this is a problem in importing the translations or in exporting them (lang-pack-o-matic) [12:52] Launchpad bug 563755 in language-pack-kde-ca-base "Missing ca@valencia translations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563755 [12:52] dpm: it could be because it was in universe until just now [12:53] dpm: I'll upload it now since it's been moved to main [12:53] Riddell: nah [12:53] Riddell: I have a bug fix in chain [12:53] gotta upload in a bit anyway :) [12:53] starshiptrooper: ok [12:54]