| lool | DanaG: lol | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| lool | DanaG: Yeah, it will definitely we without NAND | 00:01 |
| rcn-ee | DanaG, they ubuntu is currently only targeting C4... ;) | 00:02 |
| DanaG | Now, if u-boot had ext4 support, that would be pure win. | 00:02 |
| rcn-ee | if u-boot had any extX support.. ;) (that worked) | 00:02 |
| lool | u-boot needs to be read from somewhere too | 00:02 |
| lool | rcn-ee: ISTR we're using ext2 support in the dove images, not quite sure anymore | 00:03 |
| lool | problem is that we still need to load u-boot from MMC I guess | 00:03 |
| lool | so with vfat | 00:03 |
| lool | because the ROM will load it | 00:03 |
| rcn-ee | i know what you mean, i a couple other boards (avr32, etc) that has no problems with extX partitions running mainline u-boot.. Only the beagle has issues... | 00:03 |
| ogra_cmpc | lool, http://paste.ubuntu.com/414595/ ... i need uboot-envtools in main and integrate it into flash-kernel-installer (for cmdline/root UUID etc), but it apparently works well already | 00:04 |
| Martyn | rcn-ee : Right now the bulk of the work I'm doing is getting the smooth-stone SoC supported, and trying to figure out ways of recycling as much of the ARM tree in an abstracted way to do it | 00:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | lool, thanks so much for poking me towards NAND | 00:05 |
| DanaG | oh... right, you do still need fat32. | 00:05 |
| DanaG | It's a chicken-and-egg problem. | 00:05 |
| rcn-ee | Of course Martyn, cant' wait to see what that board can actually do. ;) | 00:06 |
| DanaG | Can't read u-boot itself from ext4, anyway. | 00:06 |
| Martyn | rcn-ee : One of the big problems, at least for me, is that Grant Likely device tree patches aren't going to make it in until mid 2.6.35, even .36 | 00:06 |
| Martyn | rcn-ee : Coming to Brussels? | 00:06 |
| DanaG | I wonder if you could fit u-boot in an MBR. | 00:06 |
| Martyn | DanaG : No. i've tried | 00:06 |
| DanaG | Bummer. | 00:06 |
| Martyn | DanaG ; The problem is keeping it under 63 sectors (512bytes*63) | 00:06 |
| rcn-ee | Nope, not across the pond anytime soon, but i will be in esc san jose.. | 00:07 |
| lool | ogra_cmpc: eh | 00:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | rcn-ee, thats a shame ! | 00:07 |
| rcn-ee | DanaG, actually someone did intergrate X-loader into u-boot as a side project... can't remember how many months back on the beagleboard group... | 00:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | lool, i got a freeze exception until fri. btw | 00:08 |
| Martyn | rcn-ee : Pity .. I'm bringing a prototype of sorts | 00:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | for that bit at least | 00:08 |
| Martyn | rcn-ee : nVidia is helping :) | 00:08 |
| rcn-ee | what? no way! ;) | 00:09 |
| rcn-ee | i know they are kinda betting on the tegra platform, so it makes some sense... | 00:09 |
| DanaG | now, a Tegra netbook could be cool. | 00:09 |
| Martyn | rcn-ee : Heh .. true. Although I feel kind of guilty being one of the reasons the tegra2 200 platform is hard to get right now | 00:09 |
| DanaG | I may not much like nvidia... but at least I'd probably be able to use compiz on the thing. | 00:10 |
| DanaG | ... as opposed to PowerVR. | 00:10 |
| Martyn | DanaG : I already saw four prototype 'smartbooks' based on the tegra2 .. but the 200 has some problems with Mini PCIe | 00:10 |
| Martyn | (weak ordering is supported, strong ordering is not, which breaks the PCI driver in linux_ | 00:10 |
| Martyn | DanaG : Try the more exciting idea -- the potential for using CUDA | 00:11 |
| rcn-ee | Your just helping to get things supported before everyone starts yelling about the issues... | 00:11 |
| DanaG | hmm, weak ordering? | 00:11 |
| Martyn | DanaG : Yeah. | 00:11 |
| DanaG | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg02948.html | 00:11 |
| rcn-ee | i just want a PCI-E, then stick ati/nouveu based card into it.. ;) the open-rd was interesting, but backordered.. | 00:11 |
| * ogra_cmpc falls dead | 00:12 | |
| Martyn | ogra :Sleep time? | 00:13 |
| Martyn | DanaG : Bingo | 00:13 |
| DanaG | Sucks that the Base and Client have different sets of I/O. | 00:14 |
| Martyn | and because the assumption is strong ordering (where the tegra2 demands weak ordering) ... we get brokenness all over the place | 00:14 |
| DanaG | I want a superset of both... "client" without the onboard IGP, with PCIe slot. | 00:14 |
| DanaG | hmm, still doesn't quite say what strong / weak ordering is. Is it presence or lack of specific instructions? | 00:14 |
| rcn-ee | Oh ogra, found another device with no battery backed rtc... The Always-innovating touchbook doesn't have a backup battery... There's a mod on their wiki to add one... | 00:17 |
| Martyn | think of it as the difference between TCP and UDP | 00:17 |
| Martyn | TCP ensures that the order of packets is perserved and checked | 00:18 |
| Martyn | UDP .. ordering is -not- guaranteed or checked | 00:18 |
| DanaG | ah, but instead of packets, it's "things you tried to fetch from memory"? (would have to include a sequence marker, of course.) | 00:19 |
| Martyn | something like that | 00:20 |
| Martyn | there are entire chapters in my PCI book dedicated to the subject | 00:20 |
| DanaG | hmm, that reminds me of something I had thought would be interesting: use a PCIe FPGA to do all sorts of stuff. | 00:21 |
| DanaG | Something I wanna' see: http://www.sondigo.com/sirocco/overview -- something like that, but with 2.6 kernel. | 00:21 |
| DanaG | It's a c-media PCI audio chip on a Realtek Lexra MIPS CPU. | 00:22 |
| DanaG | Most ARM SOCs don't have surround sound. | 00:22 |
| Martyn | .. thinks | 00:24 |
| Martyn | NO ARM SoC's have surround sound yet, that I can think of | 00:24 |
| Martyn | I don't even think the Tegra2 is more than 2.1 | 00:24 |
| DanaG | yeah, I realized that after I spoke / typed / pressed enter. | 00:25 |
| DanaG | http://landley.net/notes-2009.html | 00:27 |
| philo | hi | 06:03 |
| philo | i need a simple way to setup a virtual machine with ubuntu-arm running it... can anyone point me to some doc ? | 06:04 |
| === JaMa|Zzzz is now known as JaMa | ||
| ogra | philo, see topic :) | 07:15 |
| aaron_liuj | my board have two output hdmi and lcd ,but it's default out lcd ,how to change it to hdmi display | 07:31 |
| aaron_liuj | need i modify the frame buffer ? | 07:32 |
| amitk | aaron_liuj: what board is it? | 07:33 |
| aaron_liuj | arm | 07:37 |
| aaron_liuj | one type arm board | 07:37 |
| aaron_liuj | 2 output device , but default is lcd ,i want change it to hdmi tv | 07:38 |
| aaron_liuj | how to do that ? | 07:38 |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| amitk | aaron_liuj: I'm afraid we need more info than that. What processor does it use? Is it a custom board, etc.. | 07:47 |
| aaron_liuj | tcc8900 | 07:51 |
| aaron_liuj | but the i have he right worked hdmi driver | 07:52 |
| aaron_liuj | but the i have the right worked hdmi driver | 07:52 |
| aaron_liuj | but i don't know how to change the default output device | 07:52 |
| amitk | aaron_liuj: that is not an SoC that is supported by Ubuntu, so I'm not familiar with its drivers | 07:53 |
| aaron_liuj | i think it's vary samilar with pc have vga and hdmi port | 07:55 |
| aaron_liuj | i think it's very samilar with pc have vga and hdmi port | 07:55 |
| aaron_liuj | i think it's very samilar with pc have vga and dvi, hdmi port | 07:55 |
| amitk | it is probably in the framebuffer driver options somewhere | 07:56 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| DanaG | telechips? | 08:21 |
| DanaG | hmm, my Cowon S9 has some telechips thingy of some sort. | 08:21 |
| amitk | never heard of them before | 08:24 |
| aaron_liuj | yeah from telechips | 08:25 |
| NCommander | aaron_liuj: ususally its a kernel command line option, or if you just care about X, you might be able to get by with just xrandr, but I can't tell you the specifics | 08:27 |
| NCommander | Martyn: dove has surrond sound | 08:28 |
| ogra | hrm, so broken_system_clock in e2fsck.conf doesnt help :( | 08:28 |
| saeed | hi there | 08:33 |
| saeed | ogra: hi | 08:40 |
| ogra | hey saeed | 08:40 |
| saeed | I would like to boot lucid on dove with console on serial | 08:41 |
| saeed | it would be very usefull if we can append args to bootargs of the boot.scr | 08:41 |
| ogra | saeed, that will breake the splash screen on all desktop installs, do you want that ? | 08:44 |
| ogra | plymouth sadly breaks once a console= option is on the cmdline and wont display any splash anymore | 08:45 |
| saeed | ogra: what is splash sceen? | 08:46 |
| saeed | ok, I googled it | 08:47 |
| saeed | anyway, the console option will be added only for debug | 08:47 |
| ogra | heh, its the progressbar screen you see on boot of ubuntu desktop systems | 08:47 |
| saeed | also, we may add other options | 08:48 |
| ogra | it's a bit late to change these options, we need to talk to the release team given that final freeze was yesterday | 08:49 |
| ogra | how confident are you that they are 100% not causing any problems (the additional options i mean) | 08:49 |
| saeed | I see, please consider it for next release | 08:49 |
| ogra | we'll do, we can get a freeze exception but it must be a 100% bulletproof change | 08:50 |
| ogra | if the images get unbootable due to some cmdline option you request thats a disaster | 08:50 |
| saeed | ogra: I'm not looking to add permanent options to the cmdline | 08:51 |
| saeed | only temporary options for debugging specific issue | 08:51 |
| ogra | you can easily change boot.scr yourself | 08:52 |
| ogra | if its only for you for debugging | 08:52 |
| ogra | just grab it, remove the binary header, save it as boot.script and edit bootargs to your liking | 08:53 |
| ogra | then run: mkimage -A arm -T script -C none -n "Ubuntu boot script" -d <path to your boot.script file> /boot/boot.scr | 08:54 |
| ogra | its trivial | 08:54 |
| saeed | ok | 08:54 |
| === nosse1_away is now known as nosse1 | ||
| nosse1 | Morning everyone | 09:04 |
| aaron_liuj | good night all | 09:09 |
| lool | ogra: I think saeed was just asking for a local workaround | 09:15 |
| ogra | lool, yeah, i didnt get that | 09:16 |
| lool | saeed: What we kind of miss is some UI to offer multiple kernels and versions with options | 09:16 |
| lool | saeed: Could probably be done with the soft bootloader PoC, or some other bootloader like petitboot and such | 09:16 |
| lool | saeed: But locally you could regenerate boot.scr or break into u-boot I guess? | 09:17 |
| saeed | lool: I used to create my own bootcmd based on the boot.scr one, I also tried to modify the boot.scr as ogea suggested. both methods work | 09:18 |
| saeed | however, if the next release is comming with softbootloaded, then that will be great | 09:19 |
| saeed | btw, what is the status of the softloader? | 09:20 |
| saeed | Ncommander worked on that, right? | 09:20 |
| amitk | lool: atleast openmoko uses a u-boot that supports menu entries IIRC | 09:21 |
| lool | saeed: No it's not coming with softbootloader | 09:21 |
| lool | saeed: I think ogra and NCommander had a working proof of concept, but I'm not sure what prevented its wider use; for a long time kexec was badly broken | 09:21 |
| lool | saeed: Perhaps the kexec breakage prevented its use? Not sure | 09:22 |
| lool | saeed: project name is now https://launchpad.net/mukluk | 09:22 |
| saeed | look: issues with kexec were fixed | 09:22 |
| amitk | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry | 09:23 |
| lool | So I cant comment in place of NCommander and ogra | 09:23 |
| ogra | lool, kexec broke suspend/resume on most arches we added it ... | 09:23 |
| ogra | i think it was withdrawn from most of our kernels again until thats better understood by the kernel guys | 09:24 |
| ogra | amitk, since you are affected by bug 563618, would you mind to confirm it ? | 09:25 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 563618 in util-linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "there is no way to tell fsck to ignore broken clocks on embedded systems (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563618 | 09:25 |
| ogra | else Keybuk will close it immediately again and tell me its fixed :) | 09:26 |
| amitk | ogra: done | 09:27 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 09:27 |
| * ogra waits for dpms to kick in so he can reproduce the DSS2 bug finally | 09:31 | |
| nosse1 | ogra, does the new ti-omap -5 cover the changes you made to the kernel yesterday? | 09:35 |
| nosse1 | comparing to the -4 config, there doesn't seem to be anything changed related to console | 09:36 |
| amitk | nosse1: that isn't built yet... long backlog of arm packages just before freeze | 09:37 |
| amitk | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap/2.6.33-500.6/+build/1692899 | 09:37 |
| nosse1 | amtik, thanks. I can extract the config from those sources | 09:38 |
| amitk | nosse1: use tab for my nick :) | 09:38 |
| nosse1 | amitk, sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I've tried using the tab, but maybe this isn't a function in chatzilla | 09:40 |
| amitk | nosse1: none taken, just trying to point you to a (timesaving) feature. :) | 09:40 |
| nosse1 | trust me, I have been looking... ;) | 09:41 |
| saeed | ogra: I'm trying to debug the hibernate issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/509006 | 09:44 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 509006 in linux-mvl-dove (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "[dove] hibernation failed to resume (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Confirmed] | 09:44 |
| saeed | I suspect that the issue is that the initramdisk mounts the root partition before doing the resume | 09:45 |
| lool | saeed: You can break into the initrd by passing extra args | 09:48 |
| lool | saeed: break=top break=bottom etc. | 09:48 |
| lool | saeed: if you unpack an Ubuntu initrd and grep for maybe_break, you should see all the possible break points | 09:48 |
| saeed | lool: thank, I'll try it | 09:49 |
| ogra | or look under /usr/share/initramfs-tools | 09:49 |
| ogra | (easier than explicitly unpacking) | 09:49 |
| ogra | lool, http://paste.ubuntu.com/414821/ | 09:51 |
| ogra | lool, i have one prob left ... if you look below "Erasing Initramfs NAND space" you will notice that i use $kmtdsize (4MB) to erase the initramfs space | 09:52 |
| ogra | lool, the default size of that space is just to big to erase it all ... without erasing we cant write (generates IO errors) what would you recommend to use for a erase size ? i was pondering to hardcode a value somewhere | 09:53 |
| lool | ogra: You mean it's too slow to erase it all? | 09:54 |
| lool | ogra: how large is it? | 09:54 |
| ogra | yeah, its 2Gig | 09:54 |
| lool | For Kernel? | 09:54 |
| ogra | its the filesystem space for the rootfs originally | 09:54 |
| ogra | no, kernel is 4MB | 09:54 |
| lool | Who creates the Kernel partition? | 09:54 |
| ogra | the kernel | 09:54 |
| ogra | for a later release we need to sort that stuff in kernel | 09:55 |
| ogra | but for 10.04 i doubt we can | 09:55 |
| lool | Ok, there's a space for a rootfs and you use it for the initramfs | 09:55 |
| ogra | right | 09:55 |
| ogra | and its to big to erase it all | 09:55 |
| lool | ogra: Can't you change the partitions to be sensible? | 09:55 |
| ogra | takes 10-15min | 09:55 |
| ogra | no, they are set in kernel | 09:55 |
| lool | ogra: pointer? | 09:56 |
| ogra | in the omap mtd driver actually | 09:56 |
| ogra | lool, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c;h=962d377970e9bb198d410abf1ac1b418d0658341;hb=HEAD | 09:56 |
| lool | thanks | 09:56 |
| nosse1 | amitk: Are there any other changes to the kernel except for config changes? | 09:57 |
| lool | ogra: Could you possibly use the kernel part for both, or is it two small? | 09:57 |
| ogra | for both ? | 09:57 |
| ogra | whats both ? | 09:57 |
| ogra | oh | 09:57 |
| ogra | 4MB is definately to small | 09:57 |
| lool | Yeah | 09:58 |
| lool | ogra: So I have some ideas, but first could you explain where these IO errors come fronm? | 09:58 |
| lool | I thought you could write whatever you like to mtdblock parts, the kernel will do the NAND flashing to 0xff for you if needed | 09:59 |
| ogra | lool, no idea, i get them if i write to unerased space | 09:59 |
| amitk | nosse1: no other changes, they'll happen after release as SRUs | 09:59 |
| lool | ogra: I suspect it's a bug in the offset / size you're writing | 09:59 |
| ogra | as soon as i zero it everything works flawless | 09:59 |
| ogra | i got the offset sizes from the beagle docs | 09:59 |
| ogra | they seem to be identical across all beagles | 10:00 |
| lool | ogra: I would say you should have at least 16 MiB for the initrd data | 10:01 |
| ogra | ok | 10:01 |
| lool | for safety, you could go to something higher | 10:01 |
| lool | like 64 | 10:01 |
| ogra | where would you put it ? | 10:01 |
| lool | in the rootfs part | 10:01 |
| ogra | in the script (i dont use flash-kernel.conf yet and would happily not) | 10:01 |
| ogra | ok | 10:01 |
| lool | ogra: how do you load the initrd ATM? | 10:02 |
| ogra | nand load | 10:02 |
| lool | certainly *some* components needs to be made aware of the actual size we care about | 10:02 |
| lool | ogra: do you have control of that script? | 10:02 |
| nosse1 | amitk: How do you generate the .config? Cat everyting together from debian.ti-omap/config ? | 10:02 |
| ogra | see the top part of my paste | 10:02 |
| ogra | line 10-26 | 10:02 |
| ogra | it uses uboot-envtools to set the u-boot env | 10:03 |
| lool | ogra: yeah, so you're essentially already listing the initnrd size | 10:05 |
| ogra | right | 10:05 |
| ogra | i have to change it in both places | 10:05 |
| ogra | or would you suggest to parse bootcmd in flash-kernel ? | 10:05 |
| lool | ogra: I guess that's ok; if would be nice if you followed the usual u-boot variables | 10:05 |
| lool | beagleboard comes with a nice set of u-boot envs vars | 10:05 |
| ogra | mine doesnt anymore :P | 10:06 |
| ogra | after i played with the flash :) | 10:06 |
| lool | ogra: Well if you were to use proper vars, it would be nice to parse in flash-kernel | 10:06 |
| lool | e.g. (I'm not sure what exists already) initrd_nand_addr, initrd_nand_size etc. | 10:06 |
| lool | ogra: you can reset the values to their defaults | 10:06 |
| lool | resetenv or something | 10:06 |
| ogra | ah, right | 10:07 |
| lool | ogra: I suspect they don't use the rootfs as an initrd though | 10:07 |
| lool | sorry initramfs | 10:08 |
| lool | ogra: Perhaps it would be more elegant to just write what you need to write and use it as an initrd instead of initramfs? | 10:08 |
| ogra | right | 10:08 |
| ogra | there are no vars at all for initramfs usage | 10:08 |
| ogra | nor for initrd | 10:08 |
| lool | ogra: Hmm really | 10:08 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:09 |
| ogra | initrd isnt a concept on beagle | 10:09 |
| lool | jffs2args=setenv bootargs console=${console} ${optargs} root=/dev/mtdblock4 rw rootfstype=jffs2 | 10:09 |
| ogra | even finding proper docs with google is painful | 10:09 |
| ogra | right, thats for a rootfs | 10:09 |
| lool | Oh it's certainly supported for sd | 10:09 |
| nosse1 | I see you changed the HZ. Why is that? | 10:09 |
| === XorA|gone is now known as XorA | ||
| ogra | nosse1, ?? | 10:10 |
| lool | ogra: So I'd introduce a nandinitrdboot or similar which would set root=UUID=something and load some configurable megabytes of the rootfs as an initrd; I'd read that value from flash-kernel to zero it | 10:10 |
| ogra | ok | 10:11 |
| lool | You can re-use rdaddr | 10:11 |
| ogra | amitk, bug 563650 with kisses for you :) | 10:12 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 563650 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "DSS2 oops when shutting down while DPMS is active (affects: 1)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563650 | 10:12 |
| lool | I wonder whether it would be possible to point the kernel at the nand for the initramfs and unpack it in RAM | 10:12 |
| ogra | lool, what scares me a bit is to rely to much on uboot-envtools | 10:12 |
| ogra | lool, thats for 10.10 :) | 10:13 |
| * ogra will already be happy if he ends up with a bootable *something* on lucid beagle ... given bug 563618 and Keybuks attitude towards the prob thats not looking good atm | 10:15 | |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 563618 in util-linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "there is no way to tell fsck to ignore broken clocks on embedded systems (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563618 | 10:15 |
| amitk | nosse1: right, cat together all of it | 10:17 |
| amitk | ogra: thanks | 10:17 |
| NCommander | saeed: softbootloader was blocked on lack of kexec() | 10:32 |
| NCommander | saeed: kernel support landed too late for lucid unfortunately | 10:32 |
| lool | ogra: i'm glad I told you 64 MiB because the usual ubuntu config is actually 4 MiB | 10:33 |
| lool | *64 | 10:33 |
| ogra | i would have gone with 16 :) | 10:33 |
| ogra | i dont think i have ever seen a bigger initramfs in my life | 10:33 |
| lool | ogra: given that the size in the kernel config is 64 MiB, that would seem a prudent value to use | 10:34 |
| lool | ogra: are you checking the file size before writing it? | 10:34 |
| ogra | not explicitly, no but thats just a copy paste job | 10:35 |
| lool | ogra: Make sure there's some check in place? | 10:35 |
| lool | quoting is a bit inconsistent in your diff too | 10:35 |
| ogra | check_size "Kernel" $(($kfilesize + 8 + 64)) $kmtdsize | 10:36 |
| ogra | like that ? | 10:36 |
| lool | apw: Would you be open to bumping the default ramdisk size in the dove config to 65536 instad of 4096? :_) | 10:36 |
| ogra | (stolen from QNAP) | 10:36 |
| lool | ogra: something like that, I'm afraid I lack the specifics | 10:36 |
| lool | ogra: note that you're actually writing an u-boot image which is slightly bigger than the initrd | 10:37 |
| apw | lool, i think that is becoming the default on the other arm branches | 10:37 |
| ogra | lool, indeed | 10:37 |
| apw | i presume you mean for SRU | 10:37 |
| lool | apw: Yes, it's the case in pretty much all other branches, not sure why not on dove | 10:37 |
| lool | apw: I guess it's for $next-upload, SRU or late upload; happy either way | 10:38 |
| lool | apw: I would like if it's in git and I can forget about this discrepancy :-) | 10:38 |
| apw | lool, as dove is in the can is there a bug as we'll need one to SRU the change | 10:39 |
| lool | apw: no open bug, can file one now | 10:45 |
| apw | lool thanks | 10:45 |
| apw | assign it to me | 10:45 |
| lool | apw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-mvl-dove/+bug/563679 | 10:49 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 563679 in linux-mvl-dove (Ubuntu) "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE should be 65536 as in other kernels (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] | 10:49 |
| apw | lool ta | 10:49 |
| saeed | NCommander: what is the current status of mukluk | 10:53 |
| NCommander | saeed: on hold. Will look at implementing for 10.10 | 10:54 |
| saeed | NCommander: does the current version partialy work? | 10:54 |
| ogra | NCommander, what was the prob again with missing uboot-mkimage on certain dove installs ? | 11:09 |
| ogra | NCommander, were these d-i based or live ones ? | 11:10 |
| NCommander | ogra: live images, sometimes blew up due to network not being present | 11:10 |
| NCommander | saeed: yes, but the script ot make the config file automatically is buggy | 11:11 |
| ogra | NCommander, weird, i'm just looking at the redommends | 11:11 |
| ogra | *recommends | 11:11 |
| ogra | in ubiquity | 11:11 |
| ogra | and uboot-mkimage is definately in the list so it should be inside the livefs | 11:11 |
| ogra | oh | 11:13 |
| ogra | it was added on Fri Mar 26 | 11:13 |
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| nosse1 | is there a link to the armel build queue somewhere? | 11:39 |
| ogra | https://edge.launchpad.net/builders | 11:40 |
| ogra | lool, erasing 64M is still taking more than 2min, i'll go with 16 | 11:44 |
| ogra | asac, so looking at uboot-envtools ... | 12:47 |
| asac | ogra: thanks. and sorry i didnt fix it yet for you ;) | 12:47 |
| ogra | asac, using make clean breaks because the quilt patches that clean up Makefile are not applied | 12:47 |
| ogra | donty worry, i'm nearly done with all the omap stuff ... just needs that package | 12:48 |
| ogra | asac, so, i cant easily fix up the build system without adding my completely own Makefile debian/patches has Makefile patches that need to be applied to exec anything at all but rules calls unpatch in clean | 12:51 |
| ogra | i guess thats the reason for the rm commands in rules | 12:51 |
| ogra | asac, laso it doesnt remove source files it seems but it removes the link | 12:52 |
| ogra | asac, the missing config is caused because its actually a snipped from uboot, it would be configured during uboot build but the package here tries to be generic and thus ships only example configs | 12:57 |
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| ocs | hi, which is the cheapest arm-board where ubuntu can run ? | 15:16 |
| rsalveti | ocs: beagleboard? | 15:17 |
| rsalveti | ocs: you can get it for $150 | 15:17 |
| ocs | rsalveti: are you sure there are not cheaper ones? | 15:18 |
| rsalveti | ocs: if you want to run lucid, then I guess it's the cheaper one | 15:18 |
| ocs | rsalveti: lucid <--- ? | 15:19 |
| rsalveti | otherwise if you are happy with older releases, you can get an armv5 or armv6 board | 15:19 |
| rsalveti | ocs: ubuntu lucid, the next release | 15:19 |
| ocs | rsalveti: thanks | 15:21 |
| rsalveti | ocs: sheevaplug is cheaper ($99), but it's armv5 | 15:23 |
| rsalveti | ocs: you can run ubuntu 9.04 or debian | 15:23 |
| rsalveti | or oe based distros, like angstrom | 15:23 |
| ocs | rsalveti: but sheevaplug doesn't have a video connector | 15:25 |
| ocs | right? | 15:25 |
| rsalveti | ocs: yep, you're right | 15:26 |
| ogra | rcn-ee, your /etc/e2fsck.conf works with mountall ? | 15:36 |
| ogra | (note that mountall doesnt use e2fsck but fsck from util-linux which doesnt respect the config file) | 15:36 |
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| ogra | GrueMaster, did you test the d-i fix for the netinst images already ? | 17:08 |
| ogra | (for dove) | 17:08 |
| GrueMaster | Yes. Netboot install now works. | 17:09 |
| ogra | with the default initrd without having to fiddle with mkimage etc ? | 17:09 |
| GrueMaster | I even wrote a little netboot.scr script for it that gets pulled via bootp. | 17:09 |
| ogra | sweet | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | I used the latest images from http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid/main/installer-armel/20081029ubuntu98/images/dove/netboot/dove/ with out any modification. | 17:10 |
| ogra | perfect, thanks | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | I'm still trying to figure out how to use the bootp protocol to send uboot commands. | 17:11 |
| GrueMaster | But I don't think uboot supports it. | 17:11 |
| ogra | probably not uboot, but kernel/initramfs should be able to read dhcp strings you send | 17:13 |
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| Martyn | Is there a list of packages that are -not- attempted to be built on ARM? | 21:12 |
| armin76 | libx86 :D | 21:13 |
| armin76 | s390-tools :D | 21:13 |
| asac | Martyn: we have a architecture specific blacklist file yes. but dont ask me where ;) | 21:22 |
| asac | ogra: ^^ where is pas? | 21:23 |
| persia | asac: P-a-s isn't the entirety of it, really. There's also package arch: fields. | 21:38 |
| asac | persia: sure | 21:38 |
| asac | but thats not in list form ;) | 21:38 |
| persia | No, my point is that such a list doesn't exist. | 21:39 |
| persia | And I know we attempt builds of silly stuff (e.g. libx86, wine1.2). | 21:39 |
| persia | Anyway, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/packages-arch-specific/ubuntu | 21:40 |
| Martyn | thanks :) | 21:52 |
| Martyn | persia : That will do as a starting point | 21:52 |
| persia | Martyn: patches accepted for that, if you think there's something listed as not-for-ARM that should be for ARM. I had to unburden a number of packages when working on the lpia port. | 21:53 |
| Martyn | right now, I'll take stability over coverage | 21:55 |
| Martyn | smooth-stone is looking over all the packages, and building a blueprint for UDS-M | 21:55 |
| Martyn | we're currently looking for a way to use eucalyptus either with LXC, or completely non-virtualized | 21:56 |
| persia | That shouldn't be hard at all. | 21:58 |
| persia | Just replace eucalyptus-nc with another component. | 21:58 |
| persia | I strongly recommend chatting with kirkland or smoser in #ubuntu-server about it: they are likely to be able to share good strategies. | 21:59 |
| persia | And I know at least one of them shares your timezone, which may make that easy :) | 21:59 |
| persia | Actually, they're both there now :) | 22:00 |
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