[00:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its not the network that is not allowing me to connect to the printer
[00:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anythere
[01:50] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> can anyone tell me how to get my scanner to work
[02:34] <elhoyos> hi all
[02:34] <Raidsong> hello elhoyos
[02:36] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> hey
[02:37] <elhoyos> guys (and girls), do you know what's the name of a package with a set of unix games that include popular acronyms?
[02:38] <elhoyos> I always forget about it
[02:39] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> i don't
[02:39] <elhoyos> damit
[02:39] <elhoyos> I believe nhandler might know about it, dont you?
[02:40] <nhandler> bsdgames
[02:40] <elhoyos> great
[02:40] <nhandler> :)
[02:40] <Raidsong> the great nhandler knows all
[02:42] <elhoyos> what about this: easiest known way to export and load your XChat prefs (w/ networks and channels).
[02:44] <nhandler> elhoyos: Copy the ~/.xchat folder
[04:05] <gwdean> Hello. This is the absolute first time I've been on IRC. I've been using Ubuntu for 9 mos, so Im a quasi-beginner I guess. Look forward to using IRC-- I've heard a lot about it, but I finally decided that this is something I need to learn...
[04:06] <gwdean> Question 1: Is there a directory that lists open source projects that a newcomer can contibute to?
[04:07] <gwdean> contribute I mean:)
[07:31] <steelsteve> "Bad Request (Request Header Too Long)" I get this error message when I try to use Firefox to log into EBSCO (a library resource website) via one of my profiles
[07:31] <steelsteve> currently, only one profile works with this site
[07:31] <steelsteve> and it does not have any addons installed
[07:32] <steelsteve> this is part of an alleged ongoing profile problem with firefox
[07:32] <Preacher> Playing with karmic
[07:32] <Preacher> Absolutely beautiful
[07:32]  * steelsteve needs help with firefox profiles
[07:33] <steelsteve> lovinglinux has been unable to help me though...
[07:33] <Preacher> Can except rhythm box isn't listed in applications menu
[07:33] <Preacher> how can i add it?
[07:34] <steelsteve> is it even installed?
[07:35] <steelsteve> well that sucks
[07:36] <steelsteve> "Bad Request (Request Header Too Long)" I get this error message when I try to use Firefox to log into EBSCO (a library resource website) via one of my profiles
[07:36] <steelsteve> Currently, only one profile works with this site and it does not have any addons installed
[07:36] <steelsteve> This appears to be a part of an alleged profile problem with firefox
[07:36] <steelsteve> And I have discussed this with LovingLinux and he doesn't know what to do about it (last time I checked)
[10:15] <man0riaX> Heya
[10:33] <PD187> hello
[17:37] <matt3206_> hi
[17:37] <matt3206_> i am having trouble using my webcam with empathy
[17:38]  * matt3206_ shits on everyone's coat in the server
[18:27] <g33kergRL> i'm having problems with step 4 in the install process, is there a guide with screen shots?
[18:27] <g33kergRL> there used to be one with pcis
[18:28] <g33kergRL> When installing ubu804 i have these issues  1. it doesn't offer me dual booting and 2. i've created partitions (an ext3 and a swap) but it says nowhere explicitely "i will install on those ext3 partitions and not wipe your ntfs partion, no way no how"
[18:34] <zeer0> hey, bit of a problem with the 10.04 beta 2. Supposedly it should have a pulse-audio equalizer ready-to-use in the sound&video application folder. I've only got pulse-audio device-chooser/volume-control applications.
[18:35] <zeer0> should i reinstall my pulse-audio files
[18:35] <uRock> g33kergRL, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[18:36] <uRock> zeer0, I don't have that in my menu either
[18:38] <g33kergRL> uRock:  is that for dual booting also?
[18:41] <uRock> Yes, when you get to the partitioner screeen, you want to select the bottom selection to select partitions manually. When you go through and create/selct the aprtitions you want to use for the install such as /, /home and swap, it will only make changes and install to those partitions.
[18:42] <LzrdKing> umm... i downloaded the ubuntu ISO but i don't have a CD-R to burn it on; can i use a DVD-R?
[18:42] <uRock> g33kergRL, It only makes changes to the partitions you select. And it will install grub to the MBR which will allow you to dual boot
[18:43] <uRock> LzrdKing, Yes, using DVD is perfectly fine. I think it actually runs smoother and faster using DVDs to install.
[18:44] <LzrdKing> i had some iso that i tried to put on a dvd and it didn't work
[18:44] <LzrdKing> i forget what it was though
[18:44] <g33kergRL> if there's no checkmark on that particular partition, it won't erase it for sure? like, 99 percent sure?
[18:44] <g33kergRL> uRock:
[18:44] <uRock> Ubuntu works perfectly on it
[18:44] <g33kergRL> i'm trying to do a usb install
[18:44] <uRock> g33kergRL, ?
[18:45] <g33kergRL> if there's no checkmark on that particular partition, it won't erase it for sure? like, 99 percent sure, uRock?
[18:45] <uRock> you are correct
[18:46] <LzrdKing> no, 100% sure
[18:46] <g33kergRL> uRock: i would really appreciate a guide with pics that is NOT about dual booting WITHIN windows, do you know of one?
[18:47] <uRock> 1 min
[18:47] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing: theoretically, nothing's 100% sure, but i get your drift ... ;)
[18:48] <LzrdKing> g33kergRL: if you don't check it, the installer will not erase it; it may however get erased by other means coincidentally at the same time as and noticed immediately after the installer runs
[18:49] <g33kergRL> dam
[18:49] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing: it's just that the windows partion is seriously effedup
[18:49] <LzrdKing> maybe you should erase it then
[18:50] <g33kergRL> it's not mine to erase, it's complicated
[18:50] <uRock> g33kergRL, I do not see any tutorials with the screenshot you want.
[18:50] <g33kergRL> uRock: that seirously sxx
[18:50] <LzrdKing> "its not yours" isn;t so complicated
[18:51] <uRock> When you get to that part of the install, the only partitions that get changed are the ones you select
[18:52] <LzrdKing> that get changed by the installer*
[18:52] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing:  aha, a man with a sense for detail
[18:53] <uRock> If one of the team members here have a screenshot of the partitioning screen for selecting partitions manually, it would be nice to share. I haven't installed a virtual machine since installing Lucid to be ble to get the screenshot
[18:53] <LzrdKing> so THATS how you get those screenshots!
[18:54] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing: i sooooooo ALSO wondered about that!!
[18:54] <g33kergRL> ;)
[18:54] <uRock> THat is how I normally get them. Some people manage to do them while installing with the livecd and saving them before restarting
[18:56] <g33kergRL> i'm gonna try to login via me laptop
[18:56] <uRock> g33kergRL, if you want to run the LiveCD and let it boot without making changes then do a screenshot when it gets to that screen, you can post it on ubuntuforums.org and let one of us see it, then we can say, whether you will be safe or not.
[18:57] <g33kergRL> uRock: isn't there a way to do it faster via pastebin something
[18:58] <uRock> g33kergRL, you can do a screenshot at any time with the livecd by clicking on Applications> Accessories> Take Screenshot.
[18:58] <LzrdKing> pastebin is text only
[18:58] <g33kergRL> uRock: noway!
[18:58] <uRock> I have never used pastebin, but if you wanna post there and give the link, I can do that too
[18:59] <g33kergRL> okay, i gotta use this keyboard for me laptop since its kb is fried for just a mo
[19:02] <uRock> I'll be here, just be sure to use my name in the post to sound an alert, so I know to look, g33kergRL
[19:03] <g33kergRL> ok
[19:04] <g33kergRL> i know now two things
[19:09] <uRock> I find it disappointing that none of the Installation Docs have a screenshot of the manual partitioning screen. Maybe after this semester is over I can find time to create one.
[19:11] <g33kergRL> how do i resize two windows side by side in this livecd ubuntu? What are you studying?
[19:14] <uRock> You should be able to click on one of the window borders and drag to make bigger/smaller. I am working on a degree in network security.
[19:18] <g33kergRL> so, there's no tiling of windows like in windows? aha, you're all about the ip-this-or-that, right? i used to lowlevel helpdesk at an isp
[19:18] <g33kergRL> how do i mount a recently switched on external drive, attached via usb?
[19:18] <g33kergRL> how do i mount a recently switched on external drive, attached via usb? uRock ...
[19:18] <uRock> More than that, but yeah, I will work with the routing protocols that routers use to talk to each other and such
[19:19] <g33kergRL>  i do realize " ip-this-or-that" is not really doing you justice ... ;)
[19:19] <uRock> It should be listed in the Places menu or click on COmputer in the Places menu and it should be there
[19:19] <uRock> lol
[19:19] <g33kergRL> uRock: the prob is, it isn't there
[19:20] <g33kergRL> can i "kickstart" it
[19:20] <swoody> g33kergRL: it should be detected automatically, if it's not, try unplugging the USB, and plugging it back in
[19:20] <g33kergRL> swoody: already did that, didn't worl
[19:21] <g33kergRL> it's a toshiba 1tb
[19:21] <uRock> She's using 8.04
[19:21] <swoody> g33kergRL: from a terminal, try running: sudo fdisk -l
[19:21] <g33kergRL> on a live-usb at that
[19:21] <g33kergRL> k
[19:21] <swoody> g33kergRL: use pastebin.ubuntu.com to post the output
[19:24] <g33kergRL> uRock: swoody: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/415114/ can u see it?
[19:26] <swoody> g33kergRL: is that it there on the end? The 500GB partition? or is that something else?
[19:27] <swoody> sorry, 500GB disk*
[19:27] <g33kergRL> nope, that is a portable hdd without an extra feed cable, so it;'s like a usbstick
[19:28] <g33kergRL> fuggedaboudid
[19:28] <swoody> gotcha. And /dev/sdb and sdc aren't what you're looking for either?
[19:29] <g33kergRL> those are all usbs
[19:29] <g33kergRL> i just looked at my partitions in Gped  and they are all locked, at least they all have a key symbol next to them
[19:30] <swoody> gotcha. Can you plug in the USB again, and then give us the last few lines (maybe a dozen or so) from: dmesg
[19:32] <g33kergRL> it's already plugged in?
[19:32] <swoody> well yeah, unplug it, and plug it back in, so it's the last action your computer makes :)
[19:34] <g33kergRL> i just looked at my partitions in Gped  and they are all locked, at least they all have a key symbol next to them, is that good, or should i swap the  ext3 and swapfile partitions, swoody
[19:35] <g33kergRL> and that other disk, fuggedaboudid please
[19:35] <swoody> g33kergRL: that should mean they are all mounted. Does your computer show them as mounted on your desktop, or in the Places menu?
[19:37] <swoody> and for the swap, from a terminal run: free -m to make sure you're not using any of the swap space, and then you can do: sudo swapoff -a to unmount the swap
[19:39] <g33kergRL> on both the desktop and the places menu, but it doesn't show the swap and ext3 as a separate thing, they're lumped together as 70GiB media
[19:39] <g33kergRL> which worrries me
[19:39] <swoody> I would try unmounting them all. What does 'free -m' show you on the "swap" line?
[19:40] <g33kergRL> where? if you want me to do a terminal command, plse gimme the exact command, or is that it?
[19:40] <swoody> yes, sorry :) Terminal command: free -m
[19:41] <swoody> there will be a line that has the title 'swap' on the left side of the output
[19:41] <swoody> and also, swap won't be shown on your desktop/Places menu, it will only show the ext3 partition as a mounted drive
[19:42] <g33kergRL> wait, but i don't wanna swapoff the swapfile partition now, or do i? i am now looking at my pc hardware, from a liveCD, maybe i wasn't clear about that?
[19:42] <swoody> well for clarification, what are you trying to do here? :)
[19:43] <swoody> I do understand that you're on a liveCD. The majority of the time, the live disc will utilize the swap space that you have on your HDD, and will be using it.
[19:44] <swoody> so with the 'free -m' command, if it shows that it has swap space available, that means it's using your internal HDD's swap partition
[19:44] <g33kergRL> sorry. I wanted to ask you, if it would be better to unkey the ext3 partition and the swap partition that i've partitioned using Gped, so that my installation of ub804 will go more smoothly. My goal is a dual booted system
[19:45] <g33kergRL> So, the free -m command will NOT unmount/swapoff the swap partition?
[19:45] <swoody> g33kergRL: no, that just shows stats about your memory and swap
[19:45] <LzrdKing> no, you need to use swapoff -a to unmount all swap
[19:46] <g33kergRL> aga
[19:46] <swoody> g33kergRL: if you're planning on installing, or modifying your partitions, you will need to unmount them first. So right-click on any mounted drives that are shown on your desktop/Places menu which you plan on using for the new install, and unmount them
[19:47] <swoody> g33kergRL: then, once everything is unmounted, and you run: sudo swapoff -a
[19:48] <g33kergRL> what really bugs me, is that in while installing ubu804, it never says explicitely, do u wanna install on this here nice ext3 partition?" but it just has stuff about editing  a partition, which i thought i don't need to do anymore, since i've created partitions already?
[19:48] <swoody> then in Gparted, in the menu at the top, go to Gparted>Refresh Devices, and it should show them all as unmounted now :)
[19:48] <swoody> g33kergRL: if you've made partitions already, select 'select partitions manually' during the install
[19:49] <swoody> then you can pick where and what to use
[19:49] <g33kergRL> does it matter to swap them off in gped or in the desktop?
[19:49] <g33kergRL> sorry to be so confusing
[19:49] <swoody> g33kergRL: no, you can unmount them either way :)
[19:49] <swoody> g33kergRL: using gparted will work, too
[19:50] <LzrdKing> will ubuntu's installer be able to nondestructively repartition my windows drive?
[19:50] <swoody> LzrdKing: it *should* as long as you have enough free space on your Windows partition to do it, but *please* make backups of anything you don't want to lose just in case :)
[19:51] <LzrdKing> swoody: there is nothing there, except what i backed up from my wubi install
[19:52] <swoody> LzrdKing: then yeah, it should work fine, but just know that with any kind of partition modification, there's always a chance of losing some data :)
[19:52] <LzrdKing> 7yeah
[19:53] <LzrdKing> i spent like 4 hours defragging the thing last night, it kept leaving stuff at the end; i used every trick i knew, including downloading a trial of diskeeper 2010
[19:53] <swoody> LzrdKing: have you tried disabling the pagefile, rebooting, then defragging again?
[19:54] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing: did you manage to get a password serial for dk2010?
[19:54] <LzrdKing> i finally got it to where there is just some system file in the middle, which should leave enough space for windows to be happy and give me enough space for ubuntu to be happy
[19:54] <swoody> if you remove the pagefile, and then resize the partition, it will allow it to be moved, and will usually be much smaller
[19:54] <LzrdKing> it's not the page file, i removed that, and hiberfil.sysand the usn journal
[19:54] <swoody> ah, ok.
[19:55] <LzrdKing> and used diskeeper, smartdefrag and pagedefrag
[19:55] <LzrdKing> not all at once though
[19:56] <swoody> LzrdKing: this may help free up some space until after you're done patitioning: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5630184.html
[19:57] <LzrdKing> its not the free space thats the issue, its that there is blank space and then a small file in th emiddle of it all
[19:57] <LzrdKing> swoody: i already deleted hiberfil.sys
[19:57] <swoody> LzrdKing: oh, ok. You already removed those, gotcha :)
[19:58] <LzrdKing> yeah, and i killed wubi too
[19:58] <LzrdKing> seems to be running ok with no swap, interestingly enough
[19:58] <swoody> g33kergRL: so did that all work out for you? :)
[19:59] <swoody> LzrdKing: yeah, as long as you have enough RAM, or don't use any real memory-intensive apps, you can run fine without swap - although it's not 'recommended' ;)
[20:00] <LzrdKing> just boxee, thats all i'll be running
[20:01] <LzrdKing> does ubuntu-server install X?
[20:01] <swoody> nope, I don't think so, not by default
[20:01] <LzrdKing> so when my install is done i have to install it, or can i specify to add that during the install?
[20:02] <swoody> well, if you're doing a new install, I would absolutley include a swap space, though
[20:02] <swoody> LzrdKing: hmm... tbh, I'm not positive, I have done that kind of install with Debian, but not Ubuntu before :/
[20:02] <LzrdKing> yeah, even though wubi was also happy without swap
[20:03] <swoody> if it doesn't give you the option, it's easy to 'apt-get install...' after installation
[20:04] <LzrdKing> very tru
[20:04] <LzrdKing> e
[20:04] <LzrdKing> but what's the package called? x? X? X11?
[20:04] <LzrdKing> X11-crypticservername-server?
[20:04] <swoody> LzrdKing: are you doing an actual server install, or are you using the CD to do a minimal Desktop install and build it yourself?
[20:05] <swoody> lol, I think what you're looking for should just be 'xorg'
[20:06] <LzrdKing> well if dependencies work as well as they should i can just install the boxcee .deb and it'll get the right X for me
[20:06] <LzrdKing> boxee*
[20:06] <LzrdKing> i have the server ISO
[20:07] <LzrdKing> can i mount it on another linux machine and install from there so i don't need to burn it?
[20:07] <swoody> yeah, that should work out fine :) (re: dpkg -i boxee.deb)
[20:07] <swoody> LzrdKing: yes, you should be able to do a network install, or even mount it on your HDD and run it from there...
[20:08] <LzrdKing> but i'd still need to boot to something other than windows
[20:08] <swoody> LzrdKing: for more options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[20:09] <g33kergRL> i am trying to login via laptop also, so ..
[20:11] <swoody> g33kergRL: you're having issues logging into your laptop?
[20:14] <LzrdKing> network install looks like more work than just burning a disk
[20:15] <swoody> LzrdKing: yeah, sometimes it's much easier to burn a disk, but for those cases where you absoloutely can't boot from a disc, there's other options :)
[20:16] <LzrdKing> funny how grub4*dos* still works in windows
[20:16] <swoody> LzrdKing: one of the easiest methods I've found - and it saves on not having to burn a CD - is using a USB stick with either unetbootin or Ubuntu's USB creator app
[20:20] <g33kergRL> swoody: really serious issues. with the first bootcd i didn't have inet, with the 2nd no FF and chatzilla, and with the third i had a small screen
[20:22] <LzrdKing> if i use unetbootin and make a live usb drive, will it be able to boot windows off the harddrive?
[20:22] <g33kergRL> how do i icrease the windows virtual memory?
[20:24] <swoody> g33kergRL: http://www.hotcomm.com/FAQ/FAQ_virtualmemory.asp
[20:24] <g33kergRL> thnks
[20:25] <LzrdKing> what are this disadvantages of booting off USB?
[20:26] <swoody> LzrdKing: compared to a LiveCD?... none that I can think of. Unless like some installers (Debian in particular) where it tries to mount the CD in the cd-rom, and won't detect it if it's on your USB.
[20:26] <swoody> but it's basically just a livecd on a usb drive, so it will be very similar
[20:27] <LzrdKing> swoody: compared to a harddrive install
[20:27] <swoody> also, I *think* unetbootn will give you the option of booting *to* your harddisk, but I'm not sure if it will boot an .iso *from* your HDD
[20:28] <LzrdKing> wait, would the usb drive bee read-only?
[20:28] <LzrdKing> be*
[20:28] <swoody> LzrdKing: yes, I think so, unless you use Ubuntu's USB Creator, you can set it save changes to the spare space on the USB
[20:29] <swoody> nifty for having drivers, etc. already on the liveUSB for future use
[20:30] <LzrdKing> ok, i thikn i'll install to my harddrive then
[20:30] <swoody> sounds good :)
[20:31] <LzrdKing> i have installed ubuntu a few times but i don't recall the option to repartition my harddrive; is that step integrated in the install?
[20:33] <g33kergRL> swoody: im booting of a usb now, how do i save settings?
[20:33] <swoody> LzrdKing: well you can setup partitions from the installer, but for modifying/moving exisiting partitions, I prefer to use Gparted before going through the install
[20:33] <LzrdKing> so i boot with gparted first?
[20:34] <swoody> LzrdKing: ah, you're using the server .iso, hmmm...
[20:35] <swoody> I would try going through the install then, it may give you the option to move/resize partitions during install
[20:35] <LzrdKing> i can download desktop if i need to
[20:36] <swoody> LzrdKing: which version of Windows are you running?
[20:36] <LzrdKing> xp
[20:36] <swoody> ah, no partition resizing then :/
[20:37] <swoody> yeah, I would give the server CD installer a go first. During the partitioning step, select to do it manually, and then see if you can shrink your XP partition. If not *then* I would look into downloading the Ubuntu desktop .iso and use gparted
[20:39] <g33kergRL> wow this blows
[20:40] <swoody> g33kergRL: what's that?
[20:40] <geek3rgrrrl> this alos me
[20:40] <g33kergRL> but from a laptop
[20:40] <LzrdKing> xp pro*
[20:40] <g33kergRL> but it has a rubber key board which blows
[20:41] <g33kergRL> swoody: okay, so i will unmount the ext3 partition and swapoff the swap part, yeah?>
[20:43] <swoody> g33kergRL: yup :)
[20:45] <g33kergRL> swoody: it has a install icon on the desktop, if i hit that, will it kill this entire ubuntu-livecd session?
[20:48] <swoody> g33kergRL: no, that'll open up the installation process, it's not harmful to your session at all:)
[20:49] <g33kergRL> ??/
[20:49] <g33kergRL> very odd
[20:49] <g33kergRL> it will live install?
[20:50] <g33kergRL> okay, here goes!
[20:50] <swoody> g33kergRL: well it'll start the installation process, you have to go through a lot of menus and options before it actually installs. But yeah, it won't interfere with your liveCD session
[20:52] <g33kergRL> ur right, im in the proces now 4 of 7, but it's confusing, im gonna look for way to upload screen shots
[20:56] <swoody> g33kergRL: which step is confusing ya?
[21:01] <g33kergRL> swoody: http://www.flickr.com/photos/38396060@N06/4524210132/ can u see this?
[21:02] <swoody> g33kergRL: yup :)
[21:03] <g33kergRL> hold on
[21:04] <swoody> g33kergRL: just fyi, I would add a second or two to the delay for the screenshots. It looks like your window is fading out slowly, and it's still somewhat visable in the image :)
[21:06] <g33kergRL> not sure what that means. can u c this http://www.flickr.com/photos/38396060@N06/4524220908/
[21:07] <swoody> g33kergRL: ok, so you want to install to the ext3 partition you made, right?
[21:08] <g33kergRL> yes
[21:08] <swoody> g33kergRL: ok, you had it right the first time, in the 'manual' option
[21:09] <swoody> select the ext3 partition, click on 'edit partition'
[21:09] <swoody> then select the mount point as "/" and the file system as "ext3"
[21:09] <g33kergRL> yes and then journal as ext3?
[21:09] <g33kergRL> check mark format too? i think not?
[21:10] <swoody> g33kergRL: you can, it won't add any time to the process, but since it's a new partition, it shouldn't matter either way really
[21:11] <g33kergRL> i've noticed that i cannot do a mount point for the swap partion?
[21:11] <g33kergRL> is that normal?
[21:11] <swoody> g33kergRL: yeah, it's not a file system, it's a swap space, so it doesn't have a mount point
[21:12] <swoody> so that's perfectly normal :)
[21:12] <swoody> just make sure to select it as a linux swap space, and you're good
[21:12] <g33kergRL> odd
[21:13] <swoody> think of it more like RAM. You don't mount your memory :)
[21:14] <g33kergRL> i'd expected SOME sorta indexing thingee, but no matter. more importantly, I can NOT checkmark that one like the ext3 thing. is that normal?
[21:14] <g33kergRL> ram, schram ;)
[21:16] <g33kergRL> swoody:  more importantly, I can NOT checkmark that one like the ext3 thing. is that normal?
[21:16] <swoody> g33kergRL: to format it? or add a mount point?
[21:16] <swoody> yeah, that's normal, and np :)
[21:16] <LzrdKing> swoody: accoridng to "http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora" the ubuntu installer can resize the partitions for me, but it's old
[21:18] <swoody> LzrdKing: that's true, but IIRC the server install doesn't have the entire live desktop on the disc, so you won't be able to use gparted unless it's part of the installation process
[21:21] <LzrdKing> page 3 of that articlewentions a unetbootin package called partition magic but unetbootin seems to work a lot differently now than it did then :)
[21:22] <g33kergRL> swoody: check it out: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/415180/
[21:23] <swoody> g33kergRL: this is correct for your keyboard?: "USA - With EuroSign on 5
[21:23] <g33kergRL> yep
[21:23] <swoody> g33kergRL: yep, then everything looks good :)
[21:26] <g33kergRL> swoody: check it out: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4523633131_08194919d3_m.jpg should i change something in that?
[21:26] <swoody> LzrdKing: well, I'm not sure if partition magic is included with unetbootin, if it is that's awesome, but I know it's available as an .iso that you can use with unetbootin (just like using the ubuntu .iso)
[21:27] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing: are trying to install ubu on loads of pc's at the same time?
[21:28] <swoody> g33kergRL: no, I would leave it on /dev/sda, or (hd0). This will install grub onto your HDD bootloader, so it will show Grub at bootup, and give you the option of which OS to boot into. It will be much easier than trying to modify Windows' bootloader to add Ubuntu :)
[21:28] <g33kergRL> swoody: ok here goes nothng
[21:29] <swoody> :)
[21:29] <g33kergRL> its asking me to unmount my c drive
[21:30] <swoody> yeah, go ahead and unmount it - right-click on the icon on your desktop, select unmount
[21:31] <g33kergRL> it says it is locked, should i now unlock it via gped?
[21:31] <LzrdKing> g33kergRL: no, i'm just installing on one for now
[21:34] <g33kergRL> it says it is locked, should i now unlock it via gped?, swoody
[21:34] <swoody> g33kergRL: is it giving you a permissions error? or what did it say exactly?
[21:34] <g33kergRL> hmm not sure, i forgot
[21:35] <g33kergRL> becos now it's installing stuff
[21:35] <swoody> oh, is it installing fine now?
[21:35] <g33kergRL> it's copying files and all that
[21:35] <g33kergRL> i guess
[21:35] <g33kergRL> if i suddenly dissappear w'll know
[21:35] <swoody> lol
[21:36] <g33kergRL> this morning, all of a sudden, my pc went down, black screen,
[21:36] <g33kergRL> and i smelled some burnt rubberr!
[21:36] <swoody> ouch :/
[21:36] <LzrdKing> always pleasant
[21:37] <g33kergRL> i checked and cheked
[21:37] <LzrdKing> sounds like the powersupply
[21:37] <g33kergRL> can u imagine that!?!?
[21:37] <LzrdKing> was it the powersupply?
[21:37] <g33kergRL> i NEVER had a power cable just crap out like that
[21:37] <g33kergRL> well it must have been since i replaced it and the juice came back
[21:38] <LzrdKing> it was the cable?
[21:38] <LzrdKing> ir the supply itself?
[21:38] <g33kergRL> no the cable
[21:38] <g33kergRL> i didn't replace the supply box
[21:38] <LzrdKing> good you had a spare
[21:39] <LzrdKing> did your dog bite on the cable?
[21:40] <LzrdKing> mine would have
[21:40] <g33kergRL> ha ha, i heard a good one the other day, in class a bloke didn't do his homework, and the teacher asked: what happened, did the dog eat your homework andthat boy said, I've never thought of my dick as homework and i resent you calling me girl a dog
[21:41] <LzrdKing> wow, that took balls to say in class
[21:41] <g33kergRL> he's like that
[21:41] <g33kergRL> he dont care nothing
[21:41] <LzrdKing> you from UK?
[21:41] <g33kergRL> no
[21:41] <LzrdKing> autralia?
[21:42] <g33kergRL> yes, autralia
[21:42] <LzrdKing> australia
[21:42] <LzrdKing> you making fun of my typing?
[21:42] <g33kergRL> no, no, autralia
[21:42] <g33kergRL> what?
[21:42] <g33kergRL> ;)
[21:42]  * g33kergRL advises LzrdKing to shoot his typist
[21:43] <LzrdKing> yeah; he can spell, just not type
[21:43] <g33kergRL> it's bad, i know
[21:43] <g33kergRL> hard to get good help these days
[21:44] <g33kergRL> okay im gonna restart it, in 1 sec ill be on the laptop
[21:45] <laptop-geek3rgrl> okthat was odd
[21:46] <LzrdKing> what was?
[21:47] <laptop-geek3rgrl> the screen went purpele
[21:47] <laptop-geek3rgrl> and then the usb got stuck
[21:47] <laptop-geek3rgrl> wow its kinda worken
[21:48] <laptop-geek3rgrl> this feels really werd
[21:49] <LzrdKing> thats what she said
[21:51] <pedro3005> -.-'
[21:52] <laptop-geek3rgrl> she who?
[21:52] <pedro3005> laptop-geek3rgrl, don't mind it, just a lame joke
[21:53] <laptop-geek3rgrl> okay so there's a diff between ubu-live and ubu installed, this one does see my usb hdd
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> lol LzrdKing , you should have that thing fixed
[21:58] <swoody> laptop-geek3rgrl: that's good to hear :)
[21:58] <swoody> laptop-geek3rgrl: so installation went well then?
[22:02] <laptop-geek3rgrl> yes
[22:02] <swoody> very good to hear :)
[22:02] <swoody> I had to go afk unexpectedly, sry
[22:02] <laptop-geek3rgrl> im on my way ak
[22:09] <g33kergRL> okay
[22:10] <g33kergRL> i'm back
[22:10] <g33kergRL> swoody: ur still here
[22:11] <LzrdKing> bodhi_zazen: what thing?
[22:13] <swoody> g33kergRL: yes, on and off :)
[22:13] <g33kergRL> ok a definite improvement over the live-usb version is that i seem to be able now to play youtubes
[22:14] <LzrdKing> hooray for tax refund check tomorrow!
[22:14] <g33kergRL> aaaargh
[22:14] <g33kergRL> too soon
[22:15] <g33kergRL> god dam
[22:15] <swoody> g33kergRL: have you installed the flash plugin?
[22:15] <g33kergRL> yes,
[22:15] <swoody> did you also remove swfdec?
[22:16] <g33kergRL> no, how do i do that?
[22:17] <swoody> g33kergRL: use Synaptic, System>Admin>Synaptic Package Manager
[22:17] <g33kergRL> LzrdKing: i wanted to tell you, that a disadvantage of the usb installer over a cd installer is that the usb installer might get infected with a virus
[22:17] <swoody> search for 'swfdec' and also 'gnash'. Remove anything installed with those in their name
[22:17] <swoody> g33kergRL: ^
[22:19] <swoody> they're open-source versions of adobe's flash player, and they might conflict with the flash-plugin when trying to view websites
[22:20] <g33kergRL> none of those seem to be installed now, there's no option to uninstall when i righclick them
[22:20] <g33kergRL> only to install
[22:21] <swoody> well that's good I suppose :)
[22:22] <swoody> and you're having issues with Firefox?
[22:22] <swoody> sry, youtube*
[22:23] <g33kergRL> yes
[22:23] <g33kergRL> it keeps telling me to upgrade
[22:23] <swoody> hmm...
[22:24] <swoody> how did you install flash? Through Ubuntu?
[22:24] <swoody> or did you go to their website and get the .deb?
[22:26] <g33kergRL> i guess both
[22:26] <g33kergRL> nah i went to their site
[22:26] <g33kergRL> via youtube
[22:26] <g33kergRL> this "Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10"
[22:27] <g33kergRL> maybe it doesn't work with FF 3.0
[22:27] <g33kergRL> ?
[22:28] <swoody> well, it should. If it's being recognized that it's there...
[22:28] <g33kergRL> it's 10.45
[22:28] <swoody> let's try installing it through Ubuntu's repositorys though..
[22:29] <g33kergRL> i'm wide open for that
[22:29] <swoody> go to Synaptic again, search for 'Flash' and uninstall the flash plugin there
[22:29] <swoody> then search for 'flashplugin-nonfree' and install that package
[22:34] <g33kergRL> ok
[22:35] <swoody> g33kergRL: then restart Firefox, and test it out :)
[22:38] <g33kergRL> no it didn't work
[22:39] <swoody> hmm...
[22:39] <g33kergRL> really odd
[22:40] <g33kergRL> since i now checked the specs and i have good specs
[22:40] <g33kergRL> right browser, etc
[22:41] <g33kergRL> swoody: what does this mean "Only Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) is supported (OSS/ESD will not play audio; audio will silently fail). Only GTK2-based browser versions are supported."
[22:42] <swoody> g33kergRL: ALSA is a system for your sound, and that it's the only version supported. Since you are using FF, you should be good :)
[22:43] <swoody> g33kergRL: open a terminal, and run:      sudo apt-get remove --purge swfdec-mozilla swfdec-gnome mozilla-plugin-gnash gnash
[22:43] <g33kergRL> swoody: what good will that do? they're not even installed?
[22:44] <swoody> g33kergRL: well just to double-check they're all gone. In case something may not have displayed correctly in Synaptic
[22:44] <swoody> with it asking you to upgrade, I'd just really double-check that they've all been removed successfully :)
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Reading package lists... Done
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Building dependency tree
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Reading state information... Done
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Package swfdec-mozilla is not installed, so not removed
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Package swfdec-gnome is not installed, so not removed
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Package mozilla-plugin-gnash is not installed, so not removed
[22:45] <g33kergRL> Package gnash is not installed, so not removed
[22:45] <g33kergRL> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 350 not upgraded.
[22:45] <g33kergRL> so ... yeah, sorry to spam
[22:46] <g33kergRL> but i get you
[22:46] <swoody> g33kergRL: it's ok, but please use pastebin in the future :)
[22:46] <g33kergRL> ;)
[22:46] <swoody> hmm... you haven't run updates yet?
[22:46] <g33kergRL> no!
[22:46] <g33kergRL> should i ?
[22:46] <swoody> try that, and maybe it'll help :)
[22:46] <swoody> of course! :)
[22:47] <g33kergRL> 358 updates?
[22:47] <swoody> nice :)
[22:47] <g33kergRL> orly? ;)
[22:48] <swoody> it's been a while since 8.04 was released (you're using 8.04, right?) So there's going to be a lot the first time around :)
[22:48] <swoody> nearly two years of updating ;)
[22:48] <g33kergRL> hmmm still 3 mins to download 300 mb
[22:49] <g33kergRL> hmmm still 3 mins to download 328.1 mb
[22:49] <swoody> wow, that's a quick connection :)
[22:49] <swoody> that would take me probably ~40mins, lol
[22:49] <g33kergRL> it kinda is
[22:49] <g33kergRL> you on a phone?
[22:49] <swoody> DSL. You have cable?
[22:49] <g33kergRL> 56k6?
[22:50] <g33kergRL> no but i have A-dsl
[22:50] <g33kergRL> its the A that makes *A*LL the diff ;)
[22:50] <swoody> ah, ok. My real DL speeds are about ~160KB/s max
[22:50] <g33kergRL> download or upload?
[22:50] <swoody> down, up is like 40KB/s max :/
[22:50] <g33kergRL> or whatever ...
[22:51] <g33kergRL> with pop[ular torrents, i can get 1.2 MB down. I get 100kb up
[22:51] <swoody> very nice :)
[22:52] <g33kergRL> it's like 30 euros p/m
[22:52] <g33kergRL> so its not really cheap
[22:52] <g33kergRL> u on a uni connection?
[22:53] <swoody> nope, home. My house is kind of odd, and it's the fastest I can get here without going to satellite :/
[22:53] <g33kergRL> dude, sux2bu
[22:53] <swoody> and that's just crazy expensive
[22:53] <swoody> no kiddding :(
[22:53] <g33kergRL> what u pay now?
[22:53] <swoody> $30USD a month
[22:53] <g33kergRL> oooh sooo cheap
[22:54] <swoody> yeah, but I'd go with a faster setup for a bit more $ if I could
[22:56] <g33kergRL> is your house like isolated?
[22:56] <g33kergRL> u live on a farm?
[22:59] <swoody> haha, almost. Small town, long road, long driveway. Just a tiny bit too far for cable :/
[22:59] <swoody> and this is the fastest DSL they offer here
[23:08] <laptop-geek3rgrl> hey
[23:08] <laptop-geek3rgrl> brb
[23:08] <laptop-geek3rgrl> itmade me restart
[23:14] <g33kergRL> swoody: u still here? it worked, i can now see and hear youtube
[23:14] <g33kergRL> now im gonna worry about avi and vdub
[23:18] <swoody> g33kergRL: excellent :)
[23:19] <swoody> g33kergRL: if you're going to setup all your video/audio codecs, this might be of use to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[23:23] <g33kergRL> swoody: okay thanks
[23:23] <g33kergRL> thanks for all your patience
[23:23] <swoody> g33kergRL: it's np :)
[23:24] <g33kergRL> so, maybe you should move to a blue state .... ;)
[23:24] <g33kergRL> to get a better connection
[23:24] <swoody> lol, I am in a blue state ;)
[23:24] <swoody> just a bit outside of town, lol
[23:24] <paultag> :)
[23:24] <paultag> +1 there g33kergRL
[23:25] <g33kergRL> blue states are quite red once you leave the cities
[23:25] <g33kergRL> paultag: wot?
[23:25] <swoody> very true. I'm only 40 mins from Chicago, but it's a different world here ;)
[23:25] <paultag> I agree with you there g33kergRL. Red states are the suck
[23:26] <g33kergRL> if only red staters realized how much blue states subsidized them ...
[23:27] <g33kergRL> if we treated red states like they wanted us to treat black people they'd have no roads, electricity or running water
[23:27] <g33kergRL> not to mention luxuries like fire dept
[23:35] <g33kergRL> paultag: if we treated red states like they wanted us to treat black people they'd have no roads, electricity or running water, not to mention luxuries like fire dept
[23:35] <g33kergRL> paultag: or y dont' u like redstates?
[23:38] <paultag> g33kergRL, because I'm a communist
[23:38] <g33kergRL> really? how odd, there's not many around
[23:39] <paultag> g33kergRL, Do you use GNU/Linux?
[23:39] <g33kergRL> i would be a communist if i wasn't a greenie first
[23:39] <g33kergRL> ubu808
[23:39] <paultag> g33kergRL, Well, you support the same kind of Communist that I am :)
[23:39] <g33kergRL> ;)
[23:39] <paultag> BRB, taking the new netbook out for a spin
[23:40] <g33kergRL> check out that youtube
[23:40] <g33kergRL> paultag: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jng4TnKqy6A
[23:47] <swoody> g33kergRL: that seems rather simplified, but I am a supporter of the idea :)
[23:47] <g33kergRL> the rebuttal vid is pure lies, though
[23:47] <swoody> but if you'd like to keep chatting about this, join ##politics :)
[23:48] <running_rabbit07> g33kergRL, I watched the first 40 seconds of it, I agree with
[23:48] <g33kergRL> ;)
[23:48] <swoody> no, really :)
[23:48] <swoody> it's a good channel for political discussion :)
[23:48] <running_rabbit07> swoody, I agree
[23:49] <g33kergRL> hmm, i think those channels r kinda useless, except to vent
[23:49] <running_rabbit07> too much flaming there
[23:49] <g33kergRL> yes
[23:49] <running_rabbit07> no real conversations
[23:49] <g33kergRL> i'm too old for that sorta crap
[23:50] <swoody> lol
[23:51] <g33kergRL> swoody: is it true that aaron schock is gay?
[23:52] <swoody> g33kergRL: no idea tbh, and it's a bit offtopic for a support channel :)
[23:52] <g33kergRL> swoody: idk ne body from chicago
[23:53] <g33kergRL> as long as there's no support questions. ....
[23:53] <swoody> g33kergRL: you could ask in #ubuntu-chicago if you'd like :)
[23:54] <swoody> maybe someone there would know?
[23:54] <g33kergRL> its too trivial, i admit
[23:54] <swoody> :)
[23:54] <g33kergRL> how do i do that whole Wine thing
[23:55] <g33kergRL> i wanna run some windows apps in ubuntu
[23:56] <swoody> g33kergRL: you can find it in synaptic, or from a terminal: sudo apt-get install wine
[23:56] <swoody> g33kergRL: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[23:58] <g33kergRL> how do i check again if something is installed via terminal?
[23:58] <g33kergRL> u gave me that command