| ubuntujenkins | hello o/ | 09:07 |
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| thorwil | godbyk: hi! is no ligatures in greek correct? | 10:41 |
| godbyk | thorwil: hey. hmm.. not sure. I can run a test pdf with the latex settings if you want a comparison. | 10:42 |
| thorwil | godbyk: yes, please | 10:42 |
| godbyk | 'kay. ancient or modern greek? :) | 10:43 |
| thorwil | godbyk: el greek ;) | 10:46 |
| thorwil | correct or not, galician, german, spanish and greek SVGs are in the branch now | 10:46 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I've emailed you a pdf. | 10:48 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Where do you think ligatures would/should occur? | 10:48 |
| godbyk | awesome | 10:48 |
| thorwil | godbyk: i simply have no idea how greek should look like | 10:48 |
| godbyk | I'm going to update the title page commands to start using them (so I can get the translators to stop harping at me about them). :) | 10:49 |
| thorwil | this will be true for all the other non latin stuff, too | 10:49 |
| godbyk | gotcha. | 10:49 |
| godbyk | I'm guessing there are still a number of languages I haven't finished setting up. | 10:49 |
| thorwil | godbyk: you'll do the svg -> pdf in batch? | 10:49 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Yeah, I'll just have the Makefile do it automatically as needed. | 10:50 |
| godbyk | assuming inkscape can export that stuff to pdf without screwing it all up! | 10:50 |
| thorwil | godbyk: just make sure it does convert-text-to-path | 10:50 |
| godbyk | looks like inkscape has a -T option to do just that. I'll make sure to use it. | 10:51 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: can you please delete 03-autoeth@da@1270508477.png | 10:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | 03-wireless-authentication@en@1271087864.png | 10:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | 08-display-properties-confirm@es@1270174921.png | 10:54 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: done | 10:55 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks | 10:55 |
| thorwil | godbyk: so the greek is all fine, ty | 11:01 |
| godbyk | cool. | 11:01 |
| godbyk | I like the easy ones. :) | 11:02 |
| godbyk | My main concerns are the languages that use non-Latin scripts and the languages that use a ton of accent characters (like Vietnamese). | 11:02 |
| godbyk | Okay, I'm off to bed. G'night! | 12:02 |
| * ubuntujenkins has approved all the screenshots so far except the rtl ones | 12:59 | |
| Daker | hi ubuntujenkins :D | 13:01 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello Daker, how are you? | 13:01 |
| Daker | fine :) and you ? | 13:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am good, just approved a lot of screenshots | 13:02 |
| Daker | check my reply | 13:03 |
| Daker | to your email | 13:03 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks Daker, that was quickly sovled. | 13:03 |
| Daker | no problem | 13:04 |
| ubuntujenkins | 642 screenshots so far | 13:06 |
| Daker | yeah | 13:07 |
| ubuntujenkins | we need 2500 a long way off | 13:08 |
| ubuntujenkins | Daker: on the website next to the quickshot "download" button, does it say dvd and not cd? | 13:28 |
| Daker | this is humpherybc who wrote the text :) | 13:30 |
| Daker | and it says DVD | 13:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | cool thanks | 13:31 |
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| ubuntujenkins | we can't fit it on a cd as the language packs are too big | 13:31 |
| Daker | so it's a DVD ? | 13:31 |
| ubuntujenkins | yes | 13:32 |
| Daker | kk :D | 13:33 |
| humphreybc | hi everyong | 13:33 |
| humphreybc | godbyk, you still up? | 13:34 |
| Daker | hi | 13:34 |
| * humphreybc makes an educated guess that he isn't | 13:34 | |
| humphreybc | hey daker | 13:34 |
| humphreybc | just read your email about the website freeze, good call | 13:34 |
| Daker | thanx | 13:34 |
| humphreybc | has godbyk talked to you about taking the website stuff out of the main branch yet? | 13:35 |
| Daker | yes | 13:35 |
| humphreybc | cool, so you guys have worked it out? | 13:35 |
| Daker | actualy iam working in lp:ubuntu-manual-website | 13:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | humphreybc: god-byk is asleep | 13:36 |
| humphreybc | Daker, that's great | 13:37 |
| Daker | https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/ubuntu-manual-website/website | 13:37 |
| * humphreybc wonders why pidgin autocomplete gives daker and Daker as options | 13:37 | |
| humphreybc | ubuntujenkins: ah, thought so | 13:37 |
| ubuntujenkins | I have approved 642 screenshots i haven't done any rtl screenshots | 13:37 |
| Daker | brb | 13:38 |
| humphreybc | ubuntujenkins: wow, 642 is a decent amount | 13:38 |
| humphreybc | that's awesome | 13:38 |
| ubuntujenkins | i need to add the common screenshots to the common branch | 13:38 |
| ubuntujenkins | also need to do the new login one. now they appear to have stopped changing it | 13:39 |
| humphreybc | hahaha | 13:39 |
| humphreybc | luke, you're doing a rocking job | 13:40 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks :-) | 13:45 |
| humphreybc | benjamin@ubuntu-manual.org | 14:00 |
| humphreybc | awh lame | 14:00 |
| * Daker will passe a final exam in less that 60min | 14:07 | |
| humphreybc | pass a final exam? | 14:07 |
| humphreybc | you must be confident :P | 14:07 |
| humphreybc | on that note, i got 100% in my python lab test today and left in 20 minutes :D | 14:07 |
| Daker | o.O | 14:07 |
| Daker | bye | 14:08 |
| Daker | :D | 14:08 |
| ubuntujenkins | we have been canonicaled again, the have changed another icon. | 14:10 |
| popey | which one? | 14:14 |
| ubuntujenkins | its not that important just the Indicator Applet one | 14:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | not to bothered about it | 14:15 |
| * humphreybc is liking the definition of "to be canonicaled = breaking a freeze" | 14:17 | |
| ubuntujenkins | lol urban dictionary entry | 14:18 |
| humphreybc | what icon is it exactly Luke? | 14:19 |
| ubuntujenkins | the Indicator Applet one in the panel, they have also made the wireless icon narrower | 14:22 |
| humphreybc | the indicator applet doesn't have an icon | 14:22 |
| humphreybc | it's just an area for lots of other icons | 14:22 |
| humphreybc | do you mean the messaging menu? | 14:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | yes, the envelope one | 14:23 |
| humphreybc | ah | 14:23 |
| humphreybc | the messaging menu is the correct term for it i think | 14:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | I guess so. | 14:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | be back in bit | 14:24 |
| * humphreybc is finalizing the credits | 15:03 | |
| vish | humphreybc: ubuntujenkins: actually nothing can be broken unless approved by the docs team ;) | 15:06 |
| humphreybc | (nice of them to think of us too) | 15:06 |
| * vish adds a "would" ^in front ;) | 15:07 | |
| vish | rather "would be" | 15:07 |
| Daker | back | 19:25 |
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| ubuntujenkins | evening all | 19:57 |
| Daker | good night | 19:57 |
| ubuntujenkins | night Daker | 19:57 |
| Daker | Oh sorry | 19:57 |
| Daker | wrong window :D | 19:58 |
| ubuntujenkins | :D | 19:58 |
| Daker | do you where can i find a python snippet code handling 3G connection ? | 20:06 |
| Daker | ubuntujenkins, do you know ? | 20:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | Daker: I don't know, may be ask in #ubuntu-app-devel . what are you trying to achive? you always get my interest :D | 20:11 |
| Daker | oki | 20:12 |
| Daker | thanks | 20:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: ping | 20:33 |
| shrini | team: hope that you remember kanchilug | 20:41 |
| shrini | :-) | 20:41 |
| shrini | the translation into tamil is going well | 20:42 |
| shrini | after the freeze of the text, | 20:42 |
| shrini | we found it is easy to move on | 20:42 |
| shrini | writing ad typing is going on | 20:42 |
| shrini | review team is editing the needed text | 20:43 |
| Daker | That's cool | 20:43 |
| shrini | thanks all for your support and this wonderful effort | 20:43 |
| shrini | Daker: thanks | 20:43 |
| ubuntujenkins | shrini: thats good to here, i did 22 of the screenshots for you the other day when testing quickshot. | 20:45 |
| shrini | ubuntujenkins: wow | 20:46 |
| shrini | thats great | 20:46 |
| shrini | ubuntujenkins: where are the screeshots? | 20:46 |
| shrini | can we have a view? | 20:46 |
| ubuntujenkins | the langauge looks strange to me lots of swirls. I will find the link | 20:46 |
| shrini | ubuntujenkins: hahahaha | 20:47 |
| ubuntujenkins | the approved ones so far can be retrived by doing bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual-screenshots/ta | 20:47 |
| shrini | great | 20:47 |
| shrini | getting them | 20:48 |
| ubuntujenkins | I think they are all ok | 20:49 |
| shrini | ubuntujenkins: wow | 20:52 |
| shrini | great shots man | 20:52 |
| shrini | really great | 20:52 |
| shrini | i can imagine, how you felt to see the letters of tamil | 20:52 |
| shrini | hahaha | 20:52 |
| shrini | but, shots are awesome | 20:52 |
| shrini | but, we lack in translating those entire text | 20:52 |
| shrini | but still | 20:53 |
| shrini | the effort is awesome | 20:53 |
| ubuntujenkins | good, glad you like them there are 25 still to do. I am getting very good at navigating ubuntu by icons and locations of stuff | 20:53 |
| ubuntujenkins | Red_HamsterX: ping | 21:36 |
| godbyk | I'm back/awake/alive now. | 21:57 |
| godbyk | Reading the backlogs.. | 21:58 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: pong | 22:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello let me pastebin some stuff | 22:01 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 22:01 |
| ubuntujenkins | have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/415193/ can you replace nl to ar in the first lot. and delete the last three? | 22:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | if the replace is a problem don't worry just remove them i have approved them into bzr | 22:02 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 22:07 |
| godbyk | give me a moment | 22:07 |
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| godbyk | This calls for one of my infamous one-liner scripts. :) | 22:08 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: done. | 22:11 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks godbyk | 22:11 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: I copied the names of the files to be renamed into a file called ren.txt. | 22:11 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: then ran this: for i in $(cat ren.txt); do mv $i $(echo "$i" | sed -e 's/@nl@/@ar@/'); done | 22:11 |
| * godbyk likes bash scripts | 22:11 | |
| ubuntujenkins | you are good at those scripts | 22:12 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: only because I've learned they feed into my laziness. ;-) | 22:14 |
| c7p | hey guys, what happened to the translations .... ? | 22:14 |
| ubuntujenkins | c7p: what do you mean? | 22:15 |
| c7p | well when i gof out from lp before 7 hours, my language's translation was 46% completed, now it's 20% | 22:16 |
| c7p | and from what i see the same happens to other languages too | 22:17 |
| c7p | except for some, eg Galician, English | 22:18 |
| c7p | Spanish | 22:18 |
| ubuntujenkins | that doesn't sound good, are you looking at the same translations, not muddling the different series up? | 22:19 |
| c7p | yap | 22:19 |
| c7p | you can check it out yourself https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1/+pots/ubuntu-manual | 22:19 |
| c7p | the greek language had 930 strings (maybe + or - 10) untranslated, now they are 1331 | 22:20 |
| c7p | and the german had around 500 untranslated but it has 1046 | 22:21 |
| ubuntujenkins | ouch, this isn't good not sure how or what has caused it. | 22:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | *i am | 22:22 |
| c7p | from what i see the some translated strings are marked as "need review" although they were marked as "translated" before | 22:25 |
| c7p | i mean no translations are lost | 22:25 |
| c7p | but we have to lose one or two days selecting the "need review" strings | 22:26 |
| c7p | can sth be done to avoid it ? | 22:27 |
| godbyk | I'm not sure. I just finished reading all my email and didn't see anything about the translations being modified by us. | 22:28 |
| godbyk | The pot file hasn't been touched in some time. | 22:29 |
| c7p | i know there is nothing at the mailinglist | 22:29 |
| godbyk | (Though I will be updating it soon after I finish fixing a couple bugs in the text.) | 22:29 |
| c7p | will the "need review" strings be lost ? | 22:31 |
| godbyk | I have no idea how any of it works. | 22:32 |
| godbyk | The changes we've made will be minimal and we'll try to make sure the translations aren't affected too much. | 22:32 |
| godbyk | We're going to be looking at other options for translating the manual in the future. If you have any suggestions or comments, feel free to let us know! | 22:33 |
| godbyk | Is seems that Launchpad/Rosetta doesn't work terribly well for our project. | 22:33 |
| c7p | the minimal changes will be on strings, right ? | 22:36 |
| godbyk | Yes | 22:40 |
| godbyk | We have to change a couple strings. | 22:40 |
| c7p | could you wait some minutes before you update the database ? | 22:41 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: how would i change the last bit of your one liner for i in $(cat /tmp/baseshots/$language/langfilelist); do mv $i $(echo "$i" | sed -e 's/@nl@/@ar@/'); done to remove everything after the @ in a file name but keep the .png at the end? | 22:44 |
| c7p | please wait for me before you make any changes, it wont take much time. If these strings will be lost the work of almost a week would be waste of time | 22:45 |
| godbyk | c7p: no worries. I haven't made the string changes I need to make yet. And after that, I have to wait for dutchie to update the actual pot file. | 22:46 |
| c7p | ok thx | 22:46 |
| godbyk | c7p: Is there a way I can back up all the existing translations (whether waiting for approval or not) before updating the pot file? (so we have a backup in case things go south) | 22:47 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: if dutchie isn't around i have the command somewhere to update it all. not sure where though | 22:47 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: so you want to remove the final @ and the string of digits following it? | 22:47 |
| godbyk | doh! | 22:48 |
| godbyk | Ctrl+W = close window in xchat. | 22:48 |
| godbyk | When I wanted Ctrl+W to mean 'delete the previous word' | 22:48 |
| ubuntujenkins | the first @ and everything following it. I am hoping Red_HamsterX will impliment something in the server for me | 22:48 |
| ubuntujenkins | leaving the .png at the end | 22:48 |
| c7p | we can download the .po files of all languages before the update and then if a string change then it would be a mmatter of finding it on the .po file and make the proper changes on lp new string | 22:49 |
| godbyk | oh, okay. so kill the language code and the timestamp (or whatever that is)? | 22:49 |
| godbyk | yeah, that's easy enough. | 22:49 |
| godbyk | just run: for i in *.png; do mv $i $(echo "$i" | sed -e 's/@.*\./\./'); done | 22:49 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks, also when you edit the strings can you please fix my STUPID mistake in Bug 560689 . I feel so bad about that one :/ | 22:50 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 560689 in ubuntu-manual "Text about burning an image has some errors" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560689 | 22:50 |
| godbyk | c7p: will the po file contain the unapproved strings, too? | 22:50 |
| c7p | i don't think so | 22:50 |
| c7p | we can consult the guys on #launchpad , right? | 22:51 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: I'll take a look at it. | 22:51 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks such a silly mistake. | 22:51 |
| godbyk | c7p: Have you seen any problems in the past couple weeks with translations disappearing? | 22:52 |
| godbyk | I think the problem before was that Launchpad discards fuzzy translations. | 22:52 |
| godbyk | But since the string freeze, that should be much less of a problem (since we're not rewriting everything all the time). | 22:52 |
| c7p | the problem is that is a word on a string changes even a space the string translation is removed | 22:52 |
| c7p | if* | 22:53 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: you rule :-) my script now moves them to the right directory and renames them. | 22:53 |
| godbyk | c7p: yeah, that's what I thought. I asked the launchpad guys about it and they said that they used to have fuzzy translations turned on, but it was worse because it lead to a ton of bad translations. | 22:54 |
| godbyk | I'm going to explore how we can improve the translation process for our manual as soon as we've got this first one finished. | 22:55 |
| c7p | sure, we can't avoid this process for this manual but the next manual to come should have a better translation management system | 22:56 |
| godbyk | c7p: Definitely. I want to have a conversation with our translators to see what worked well, what problems we encountered, and gather suggestions for solutions. | 22:58 |
| godbyk | c7p: We may end up having to ditch Launchpad for translations, even. I don't really know yet. | 22:59 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: I was going to send an e-mail out ref translators thoughts sometime. i haven't compiled launchpad to run on my pc untill i have my uni internet back | 22:59 |
| ubuntujenkins | like you said we need to find out what they think | 23:00 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: yeah. I think we can improve the process. I just don't know if it's something we can do when generating the pot file or if it's something we have to do with the launchpad/rosetta interface itself. | 23:01 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: if the launchpad API allows us to modify the translations, we may be able to get away with having our own translation frontend that ties into launchpad. | 23:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | I think its the launchpad interface, the launchpad api isn't that good as far as i know. i wasn't looking at the translations stuff though | 23:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | nope i was looking at the launchpadlib | 23:03 |
| ubuntujenkins | Red_HamsterX: I am off to bed, but is it possible/are you able to/do you have the time to implement this in the current server. I would like to specify a date and time after which to create a zip of files. I have approved all of the screenshots so far and it would be easiyer if i didn't have to work out which ones I don't have to add again and to what langauges. I have a script that renames all of the file | 23:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | s and sorts them into langauge directories. There is a lot of manual checking involved as not all of the window buttons are the same depending on if compiz or metaciy is used. Also I am adding google as the dfault search instead of yahoo. Thanks | 23:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | night all | 23:15 |
| c7p | night | 23:15 |
| c7p | everything ok now ... | 23:16 |
| c7p | thank you, goodnight all | 23:22 |
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