| keffie_jayx | guys could anyone help me check why a package fails to build a source pacakge? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/414593/ | 00:01 |
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| RoAkSoAx | keffie_jayx, it seems because you are using a T in CAPS instead of lowercase somewhere. | 00:03 |
| ScottK | keffie_jayx: Probably in debian/changelog | 00:04 |
| keffie_jayx | mmm ok | 00:04 |
| keffie_jayx | debian/control | 00:05 |
| keffie_jayx | source=Turpial | 00:05 |
| keffie_jayx | I think that is it | 00:05 |
| micahg | directhex: we need the gluezilla patch in Ubuntu for sure | 00:07 |
| micahg | directhex: s/gluezilla/GRE | 00:07 |
| keffie_jayx | yep that was ir | 00:07 |
| keffie_jayx | thank RoAkSoAx ScottK | 00:08 |
| directhex | micahg, that's what broke it | 00:08 |
| micahg | directhex: I got it working | 00:08 |
| directhex | i did too, by removing the patch entirely | 00:08 |
| micahg | directhex: yes, but in that case, it uses the first GRE it finds which we don't want it to do | 00:08 |
| directhex | is it really the end of the world if it uses 1.9.1 when you have 1.9.1 installed? | 00:10 |
| micahg | directhex: 1.9.3 is the problem | 00:11 |
| directhex | howso? | 00:11 |
| micahg | directhex: crashes | 00:11 |
| directhex | with 2.4.3-2 ? | 00:11 |
| micahg | directhex: yes | 00:12 |
| micahg | without the GRE patch | 00:12 |
| directhex | sigh | 00:12 |
| directhex | this totally needs rewriting to use webkit instead | 00:12 |
| directhex | this is with 1.9.3 only installed, no 1.9.2? | 00:13 |
| micahg | directhex: no, with both 1.9.3 and 1.9.2 | 00:15 |
| directhex | are there 1.9.3 packages for karmic anywhere? | 00:16 |
| micahg | directhex: mozilla-daily PPA | 00:17 |
| directhex | tbh if it's crashing, you should post on mono-devel list. that's likely your best place for responses. i don't think your timezone and portugese timezone are entirely compatible | 00:21 |
| micahg | directhex: I'm ok with the timezones... | 00:22 |
| micahg | they're 6 hrs ahead of me | 00:23 |
| directhex | it's gone 1am there though, so i doubt andreia is about | 00:23 |
| micahg | directhex: I can try in the morning | 00:23 |
| directhex | indeed | 00:24 |
| directhex | also shana on gimpnet #mono. or @sh4na on twitter | 00:24 |
| micahg | directhex: k, will have to try in the morning | 00:24 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Anyone available to look at a universe package upload (no response to subscribing sponsors so far) ? | 00:27 |
| keffie_jayx | pbuilder fails, could the archive for pulling dependencies be down? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/414600/ | 00:27 |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: It's a 404 not found error: possibly the package version being requested has been superceded. You probably need to a pbuilder update before trying to build the package. | 00:29 |
| keffie_jayx | IntuitiveNipple: I have just updated pbuilder | 00:29 |
| * keffie_jayx updates again | 00:29 | |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: Maybe the mirror you're using hasn't synced yet? check it manually using a browser to see what's there | 00:30 |
| keffie_jayx | thanks | 00:30 |
| keffie_jayx | I am updating again and removing that mirror from /etc/pbuilderrc | 00:30 |
| ajmitch | if it has 2.6.4 in its package listing for lucid, it's quite out of date | 00:31 |
| keffie_jayx | http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.6/ | 00:32 |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: Looking in that mirror, 1ubuntu1 isn't there: | 00:32 |
| keffie_jayx | yep | 00:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: nor is 0ubuntu2 | 00:33 |
| keffie_jayx | what mirror do you recomend? | 00:33 |
| keffie_jayx | plain archive? | 00:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | But there are *later* versions of those packages | 00:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | so that seems to imply that the Releases files fetched/used by the pbuilder are out of date in some way...not sure I understand how. I *assume* the package you're building doesn't build-dep on those exact python versions? | 00:34 |
| keffie_jayx | what do I do If after I change the mirror pbuilder keeps loking in ve.archive.... | 00:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | The mirror settings are in the pbuilder's own /etc/apt/ configuration so as long as that is changed it should be ok | 00:35 |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: You probably need to do a "pbuilder login --save-after-login ..." to change the apt sources.list | 00:36 |
| keffie_jayx | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/414604/ is my debian/control... | 00:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: Yeah, that looks fine, it must be the pbuilder's apt settings | 00:38 |
| keffie_jayx | IntuitiveNipple: I'll look into that | 00:38 |
| keffie_jayx | IntuitiveNipple: after I login I have no editors :S | 00:40 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I install nano for that reason :) | 00:41 |
| IntuitiveNipple | there's vi but I never got the hang of its commands and interface | 00:41 |
| keffie_jayx | ahh | 00:42 |
| keffie_jayx | I can do vi | 00:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Package upload request (universe) apt-cacher bug #561902 | 00:42 |
| keffie_jayx | IntuitiveNipple: no vi there | 00:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 561902 in apt-cacher "Sorry, not allowed to fetch that type of file" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561902 | 00:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | install it using apt-get from the command line | 00:42 |
| keffie_jayx | Err http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main nano 2.1.11-3 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] | 00:44 |
| keffie_jayx | sed can do the trick | 00:44 |
| IntuitiveNipple | blimey you're not having much luck there! | 00:46 |
| keffie_jayx | got it | 00:47 |
| IntuitiveNipple | you can force apt-get to get the version you *know* is on the mirror using the version-suffix: e.g. apt-get install ${package}=2.1.11-4ubuntu1 | 00:47 |
| keffie_jayx | IntuitiveNipple: thanks ... pbuilder is now pulling deps fine now | 00:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | keffie_jayx: What did you do? change the archive mirror it was using? | 00:55 |
| keffie_jayx | yep | 00:55 |
| keffie_jayx | changed it with sed | 00:55 |
| keffie_jayx | it worked fine | 00:55 |
| IntuitiveNipple | might be worth reporting to the archive/mirror admins in case that issue on ve is important | 00:55 |
| keffie_jayx | it complained a bit about pbuilder-dependdumy? | 00:55 |
| keffie_jayx | but I guess it was not that important | 00:56 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It always does, as in, unmet dependencies | 00:56 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Like: "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy" | 00:57 |
| keffie_jayx | mmm | 00:57 |
| keffie_jayx | my packages has binary filles in it and I hadn't noticed | 00:57 |
| keffie_jayx | the script generates .eggs | 00:57 |
| keffie_jayx | gotta go home for now | 00:57 |
| keffie_jayx | see you in a bit | 00:58 |
| RoAkSoAx | k/quit | 00:59 |
| keffie_jayx | guys, just wanna thank everyone | 02:56 |
| keffie_jayx | I have just packaged my first aplication from scratch | 02:57 |
| keffie_jayx | it is a twitter client made in venezuela, and it is my first package in my ppa | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | excellent :) | 02:57 |
| keffie_jayx | the app is not in debian yet | 02:58 |
| keffie_jayx | what would be the procedure to getting it in Ubuntu for the nextrelease | 02:58 |
| ScottK | TheMuso (or any Ubuntu Studio dev) apparently the Audacious package structure has changed and you'll need to update your seeds: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/audacious-plugins-extra | 02:58 |
| ScottK | !revu | keffie_jayx | 02:59 |
| ubottu | keffie_jayx: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 02:59 |
| ScottK | That's where you start, but don't expect much attention to be paid until after release. | 02:59 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: Thanks for the heads up. | 02:59 |
| keffie_jayx | ScottK: I thought so | 02:59 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: BTW as of lucid's release, I am resigning from the ubuntustudio dev team. | 02:59 |
| TheMuso | Just FYI. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: Feel free to beat bdrung about the head and shoulders when you see him. | 03:00 |
| keffie_jayx | ScottK: thanks for all the help | 03:00 |
| === persia changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect | Lucid Beta 2 Released | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | ||
| TheMuso | heh I am not that nasty. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | persia: We still want Universe fixes though. Let's make that clear in /topic. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: Who else should I be pinging about Studio? | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | persia: want to add that rcbugs url to the topic while you're at it? | 03:01 |
| ScottK | Yes. Please. | 03:01 |
| * persia has to hand-type URLs because of a client issue: if someone else wants to change the topic: please just do it :) | 03:01 | |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | ||
| persia | ScottK: Thank you. | 03:02 |
| * ScottK leaves RC bugs URL to ajmitch. | 03:02 | |
| * ajmitch mutters | 03:03 | |
| === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | ||
| ajmitch | typical | 03:03 |
| === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bu | ||
| ajmitch | doesn't quite fit :) | 03:03 |
| === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | ||
| ajmitch | sorry for spam | 03:04 |
| persia | Just means we have to dop something. | 03:04 |
| persia | Let's drop the rebuild failures in favour of RCbugs for now. | 03:04 |
| persia | rebuilds are important, but we've done the binary removals, so the FTBFS lists should be populated correctly at this point. | 03:05 |
| persia | (assuming LP did the sensible thing) | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | drop the UDD FTBFS link? | 03:05 |
| persia | Actually, try dropping debcheck first. | 03:06 |
| persia | debcheck is important and all, but not as important as either rebuild failures or rcbugs. | 03:06 |
| === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | ||
| ajmitch | it only matters if people actually read the topic :) | 03:07 |
| persia | Cool, it fits. | 03:07 |
| persia | Yeah, well. | 03:07 |
| ScottK | persia: LP does not create a build record after a binary removal, so the FTBFS won't have all you need. You need the rebuild failures. | 03:14 |
| * ScottK notes "The Unapproved queue is empty." and invites people to change that. | 03:14 | |
| persia | ScottK: Should I process 500 changelog-only uploads to remedy that, or is there a better way? | 03:15 |
| * persia grumbles. This CD managed to install on this hardware successfully (except for bugs) the last 7 times, and now it fails :( | 03:16 | |
| TheMuso | lol | 03:17 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: Re studio, for lucid, its pretty much me atm, but for Maverick and beyond, I don't know. The team are still sorting themselves out I think. | 03:17 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: OK. Thanks. | 03:17 |
| ScottK | persia: There is a better way. | 03:17 |
| persia | ScottK: What's the better way, and who is doing it? | 03:18 |
| persia | Or is the better way to review each, and upload things that fix the FTBFS? | 03:18 |
| ScottK | The better way is to look at /topic, investigate the links, and do something useful. | 03:18 |
| ScottK | persia: Excellent. | 03:18 |
| * ajmitch looks for this mythical empty queue | 03:19 | |
| persia | Oh well. I was hoping for consolidated reporting. | 03:19 |
| persia | ajmitch: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: if you were bored, the karmic unapproved queue isn't empty :) | 03:21 |
| ScottK | The output of apt-cache unmet |grep -v Recommends|grep -v Suggests|less is also somewhat instructive, although it does require some interpretation. | 03:24 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: Boost accepted. I'm not messing with Landscape. | 03:31 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: I don't care about landscape :) | 03:33 |
| * ScottK neither | 03:34 | |
| ajmitch | 'apt-cache -i unmet' will probably do what you wanted there, too | 03:34 |
| ScottK | Sure enough. Thanks. | 03:35 |
| zul | whats wrong with landscape? | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | I didn't touch it, so I don't know what changes it has in karmic-proposed | 03:48 |
| zul | ah ok...i thought something was actually wrong with it | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | nah, it just has an update to be accepted by an archive admin | 03:52 |
| zul | heh..yeah i know I put it there ;) | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | oh did you now? :) | 03:53 |
| zul | well uploaded it | 03:53 |
| zul | anyways | 03:53 |
| zul | im falling asleep | 03:53 |
| * ajmitch has been doing that all day | 03:53 | |
| ScottK | zul: It has special rules about what's OK. | 03:58 |
| micahg | TheMuso: would you like to sponsor a vlc patch for me? | 05:07 |
| * ajmitch wonders what we should do with spe - it depends on pychecker, which was removed | 05:09 | |
| micahg | ajmitch: bring a new/working version of pychecker back? | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | at this late stage? it's possible, but it was removed due to python2.6 compatibility | 05:11 |
| micahg | ajmitch: did debian not get a working version since then? | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | which may or may not have been correct | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | it has a version which appears to work, but has some open bugs with regards to py 2.6 features | 05:12 |
| micahg | ajmitch: well, idk about now, but I filed a sync for something that was removed due to FTBFS, but it was fixed | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | so I'm not sure if it's worth dragging back in yet or not | 05:12 |
| micahg | ajmitch: ah | 05:12 |
| micahg | ajmitch: is spe needeed? | 05:13 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: pychecker is needed, IIRC, for spe installability, so getting it back would be good. | 05:13 |
| ScottK | (if it works) | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: yes, this is what I'm talking about, someone mentioned spe being uninstallable in the loco channel | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | it at least has issues with relative imports | 05:14 |
| ScottK | I heard someone say it worked with 2.6, but never had a chance to look into it. | 05:14 |
| ScottK | That'd be a problem in 2.5 too, right? | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | would you be able to approve letting it back in from sid if that's the case? | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | not sure | 05:14 |
| ScottK | I'll take care of Newing it, yes. | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | I'll see how it builds & runs on lucid | 05:15 |
| ScottK | For now I'm going to go collapse for a few hours. | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | OK | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | it passes a test suite when builkdding on lucid, so there's hope | 05:17 |
| ScottK | Great. Good night. | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | night | 05:18 |
| micahg | night Scottk | 05:19 |
| imbrandon | ugh got a strange problem | 05:39 |
| imbrandon | and arch : all package that has to be built on ppc though | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | ... | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | anyway to force that on soyuz ? | 05:40 |
| wgrant | No. | 05:48 |
| wgrant | It is, however, ridiculously easy to implement once a control field has been decided upon. | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | something like Build-Architecture? | 05:50 |
| wgrant | Something like that, yes. | 05:51 |
| imbrandon | hum ok, i guess no openbios-{ppc,sparc} for lucid then | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | those sort of packages have often been a problem | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | yea, i rember them messing with my head a year or two ago | 05:54 |
| ajmitch | I suppose it ought to be mostly safe by now to upgrade my laptop to lucid | 05:57 |
| micahg | ajmitch: I'd wait for the 2.6.32-21 kernel to hit the repos first | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | there have been a few issues with -20? :) | 06:00 |
| imbrandon | i've been on it a few weeks on my laptop, seems fine so far, no major breakage | 06:00 |
| imbrandon | Linux jordan 2.6.32-21-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 13 20:34:00 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 06:01 |
| imbrandon | looks like -21 is in | 06:01 |
| imbrandon | :) | 06:01 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I saw the source upload | 06:01 |
| ajmitch | didn't know how backlogged buildds are | 06:01 |
| imbrandon | yea i downloaded it a few minutes ago from archive , not sure about the contry codes | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | country* | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | I have archive.u.c in sources.list | 06:02 |
| * micahg is wondering why an upgrade hans't been offered | 06:02 | |
| imbrandon | micahg: apt-get update :) | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | i386 vs amd64? | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | maybe, i'm on x86_64 but run 32bit | 06:03 |
| micahg | imbrandon: ah, that's probably it | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch: so i'm thinkin about sellin my wow acct | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | lkol | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | lol* | 06:04 |
| ajmitch | k | 06:04 |
| ajmitch | I'm not buying | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | hahah i know | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | i just keep seeing them on Craigslist for $1000 for about half of what i have | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | i'm like hum, an easy $1k usd | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | just because they're listed for that doesn't mean they'd sell for that much | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | true | 06:06 |
| imbrandon | imho someone would be an idiot to pay for one, but thats ok, an idiot is easily parted with his $ | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | yep | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | now if you were to try & sell your LP account we'd have to beat you :) | 06:08 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 06:08 |
| imbrandon | you know that had never crossed my mind, thats kinda nuts | 06:08 |
| imbrandon | wonder what a dd gpg+ssh key would go for ? hahahahahahah blasphmy | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | if any developer were to do that, they'd be blacklisted rather fast, I hope | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | exactly | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | and since the wot is fairly personal, i would be hard to get back | 06:10 |
| imbrandon | the reputation that is | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | they may even end up with a personal visit from some nice people... | 06:10 |
| imbrandon | :) | 06:10 |
| imbrandon | honestly now that you mention it, i wonder if its ever been attempted or if there is a contengcy plan ( other than that of any other time there has been untrusted access to the dd systems ) | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | i hope not but still ... | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | you know i wish there was once place/page to manage all the lists.ubuntu.com subscriptions , instead of goting to each mailmans interface | 06:15 |
| micahg | imbrandon: you can bulk change your address | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | ? | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | do tell | 06:16 |
| micahg | imbrandon: you can change your address for all lists in one shot | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | no no i got that part, but where | 06:16 |
| * micahg is looking | 06:16 | |
| wgrant | I think you can do it once you're logged in to any of the lists. | 06:17 |
| wgrant | I did it a couple of years ago, but don't remember the details. It wasn't that unobvious. | 06:17 |
| micahg | maybe that's it | 06:17 |
| imbrandon | see thats 3/4 of my problem, i've signed up to half the lists with diffrent email addresses etc ( but they all forward to my same inbox ) so its hard to manage them all | 06:17 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:18 |
| * micahg did that too and migrated everything to ubuntu.com address once I acquired one | 06:18 | |
| imbrandon | some are @ubuntu.com some are @kubuntu.org some are my gmail , lol | 06:18 |
| imbrandon | and heck its been 4 years since i signed up on some of the lists | 06:19 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:19 |
| micahg | ajmitch: can you ack a sync? | 06:19 |
| imbrandon | awesom, i found the area to do it ( on the ML pages ) thanks | 06:23 |
| siretart | micahg: I'm at a conference in paris this week, so if you need a sponsor, I won't be avaiable before the weekend when I'm back home | 06:26 |
| micahg | siretart: I'm trying to find someone to do it | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | what do you need micahg ? | 06:27 |
| micahg | imbrandon: I need vlc sponsored and phpmyadmin sync acked | 06:27 |
| imbrandon | i can take a look at vlc for ya, where do you have it ? | 06:28 |
| micahg | imbrandon: bug 558981 | 06:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 558981 in vlc "vlc fails to build against xulrunner-1.9.2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558981 | 06:28 |
| micahg | hi hyperair | 06:28 |
| imbrandon | micahg: ok, added to my queue, i'll lookit over / upload before i sleep tonight | 06:28 |
| micahg | imbrandon: great, thanks | 06:28 |
| * micahg would like to get a few days of testing before release | 06:29 | |
| micahg | imbrandon: would you be able to push a packagekit rebuild for me or is it too late? | 06:35 |
| ajmitch | micahg: I may be able to look at phpmyadmin in a bit, just in the middle of upgrading my laptop now | 06:36 |
| micahg | ajmitch: k | 06:36 |
| cody-somerville | Its too late | 06:40 |
| cody-somerville | unless it meets final freeze exception criteria | 06:41 |
| micahg | cody-somerville: k, seems like it only has a build-dep on xul191 and not a runtime dep | 06:41 |
| micahg | seems like the only thing left that actually needs xul191 in archive to run is gjs | 06:44 |
| * micahg will fix this weekend | 06:44 | |
| imbrandon | micahg: changes look good, test build is also fine, get me an FFe on IRC or on the bug report from a release team member and i'll upload it | 06:48 |
| micahg | imbrandon: should an FFe ack already in the bug... | 06:49 |
| * imbrandon will look closer | 06:49 | |
| micahg | imbrandon: wait, it's an FTBFS fix...I guess I do need an FFe...this gets confusing | 06:50 |
| imbrandon | :) | 06:50 |
| imbrandon | just ping any of the awake release team members on irc or get them to ack it, i'll take care of the rest if wanted | 06:51 |
| micahg | imbrandon: I just asked pitti | 06:51 |
| imbrandon | k | 06:51 |
| imbrandon | brb more mt dew time | 06:51 |
| * micahg requested several already this week and thought all were had | 06:51 | |
| micahg | imbrandon: pitti said it's bug fix only, so go for it | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | micahg: k will so | 07:13 |
| imbrandon | do* | 07:13 |
| micahg | imbrandon: thanks | 07:17 |
| hyperair | micahg: hello. | 07:21 |
| RAOF | micahg: You've got a fix for that gjs madness? | 07:23 |
| imbrandon | micahg: uploaded, should have email shortly | 07:25 |
| micahg | RAOF: this weekend, sorry for the delay | 07:29 |
| micahg | imbrandon: thanks | 07:29 |
| micahg | RAOF: gjs is the last thing that depends on xul191 in lucid, but it depends on an older version ATM, so it doesn't matter | 07:29 |
| RAOF | micahg: No need to be sorry! I was just wondering how you'd fixed it :) | 07:29 |
| micahg | RAOF: I still have my idea, I just need time to look into it, unfortunately, I was thrown a curveball with vlc and we just got that uploaded tonight | 07:30 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:51 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach | 08:08 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | gnight all | 08:33 |
| micahg | gnight imbrandon, thanks again | 08:34 |
| splashote | hey, I'd like to propose guayadeque for inclusion in the Ubuntu repos. https://sourceforge.net/projects/guayadeque/ it's not my project but anonbeats. it's a quite advanced lightweight AudioPlayer with a very fast development and a very active group of users behind it | 08:44 |
| splashote1 | if there is anybody willing to help us in order to include guayadeque, we'll discuss this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1398128 | 09:00 |
| ajmitch | wow, plymouth looks ugly on fglrx :) | 09:27 |
| micahg | ajmitch: I thought that release doesn't need to ack bug fix only universe packages until RC week | 09:48 |
| micahg | ajmitch: ah, it seems that it was updated :) | 09:49 |
| * micahg thinks he said the same thing by beta 2 | 09:49 | |
| ajmitch | micahg: I thought I'd subscribe them before I got told off too much | 10:01 |
| micahg | ajmitch: no, you're correct, I forgot that the policy changed this cycle | 10:02 |
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| directhex | is making a source package compile on amd64 as well as i386 something that needs a FFe? | 10:22 |
| micahg | directhex: I don't think so, but I think at this point, you need a -release ack for upload | 10:25 |
| directhex | even for universe? | 10:25 |
| directhex | hm, spose so | 10:25 |
| micahg | directhex: I should restate, I'm assuming that it was capable and something broke and it's not new like all to separate arch? | 10:25 |
| micahg | directhex: I think it's new this cycle even for universe | 10:26 |
| * micahg keeps forgetting | 10:26 | |
| directhex | micahg, it was previously Arch:i386, due to a very small bug | 10:26 |
| micahg | directhex: idk, you should probably just ask in -release and you can get whatever ack you need at this point :) | 10:27 |
| micahg | or maybe someone else will pop in here :) | 10:27 |
| Laney | You don't need any additional approval for unseeded packages | 10:54 |
| micahg | Laney: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#Exceptions%20for%20Universe/Multiverse seems to imply something else | 10:55 |
| Laney | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-April/000705.html | 10:56 |
| micahg | Laney: I thought I saw it somewhere :) | 10:56 |
| * micahg goes to subscribe ubuntu-archive to my sync | 10:57 | |
| micahg | Laney: should I sync be confirmed after MOTU ack or still NEW? | 10:59 |
| micahg | *a sync | 10:59 |
| Laney | I don't understand | 10:59 |
| Laney | "or still NEW"? | 10:59 |
| micahg | Laney: the status on a sync bug should be confirmed or new after MOTU ack? | 10:59 |
| Laney | oh, confirmed if you have sponsors ack | 11:00 |
| micahg | Laney: yep, he just thought release ack was needed | 11:00 |
| Laney | maybe it needs an ffe | 11:00 |
| micahg | Laney: bug fix release | 11:00 |
| micahg | Laney: you want to verify? | 11:01 |
| Laney | no, it's alright | 11:01 |
| james_w | ScottK: bug 563697 if you would be so kind | 11:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 563697 in bacula-doc "FFe: sync bacula-doc 5.0.1-1 from unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563697 | 11:33 |
| ScottK | Looking | 11:38 |
| ScottK | james_w: Approved. | 11:42 |
| james_w | thanks | 11:43 |
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| ScottK | bdrung: Your vlc upload has an undocumented change in debian/rules. I'm going to reject it. If that was desired, please document both the change and the rationale. | 12:14 |
| YokoZar | Can someone with archive please sync hedgewars? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hedgewars/+bug/555082 | 12:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 555082 in hedgewars "new version 0.9.13 released ... ppp (pretty please package)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 12:18 |
| bdrung | ScottK: it's for installing the apport hook | 12:20 |
| ScottK | bdrung: As long as you tested it, reupload with a more thorough changelog then. | 12:21 |
| bjfs | If I include python-fpconst on lucid (pbuilder) for build depends, the build fails with "Depends: python-fpconst which is a virtual package", though it looks normal... any idea how to hack this? | 12:42 |
| james_w | lfaraone: know what we should do with http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/sugar-0.86 ? | 13:04 |
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| james_w | hyperair: any idea about http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/banshee-extension-telepathy ? | 13:16 |
| hyperair | james_w: oh yeah, sorry i forgot to tell you. please remove it. | 13:17 |
| james_w | hyperair: remove what? | 13:17 |
| hyperair | james_w: -telepathy. | 13:17 |
| hyperair | i commented out the package | 13:17 |
| hyperair | it's documented in the changelog | 13:17 |
| james_w | eh? | 13:17 |
| hyperair | telepathy-gabble >= 0.9 doesn't exist in lucid | 13:17 |
| hyperair | it's not installable. | 13:17 |
| james_w | you just uploaded? | 13:17 |
| james_w | oh | 13:17 |
| james_w | the problem is that banshee-community-extensions still depends on it | 13:18 |
| hyperair | james_w: heh? i thought i commented that out as well. | 13:19 |
| james_w | pls to be fixing | 13:19 |
| hyperair | james_w: it is commented out. | 13:19 |
| hyperair | james_w: are you sure you're looking at the correct version? | 13:19 |
| hyperair | james_w: -1ubuntu3 | 13:19 |
| james_w | no idea | 13:20 |
| james_w | I'm just going on the output of NBS | 13:20 |
| hyperair | it's commented out | 13:20 |
| james_w | your answer can be "It's waiting in the build queue", or "it was only built two hours ago" | 13:20 |
| hyperair | er | 13:20 |
| hyperair | more like it hasn't been built at all? | 13:20 |
| hyperair | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44184394/banshee-community-extensions_1.6.0-1ubuntu2_1.6.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz | 13:21 |
| hyperair | fine, it's waiting in the build queue. | 13:21 |
| james_w | ok | 13:21 |
| james_w | must have been skew with the old standalone package or something | 13:21 |
| james_w | I'll remove the binary and it will all work itself out when that builds | 13:21 |
| hyperair | okay | 13:22 |
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| kreuter | hi #ubuntu-motu. how do I help fix a bug in a package whose maintainer is "Ubuntu MOTU Developers"? | 14:47 |
| nenolod | make a debdiff containing the fix and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug | 14:48 |
| ScottK | nenolod and kreuter: ubuntu-sponsors, not ubuntu-universe-sponsors anymore. | 14:52 |
| nenolod | oops. | 14:55 |
| nenolod | well i haven't needed to fix a ubuntu package in some time. :p | 14:55 |
| ScottK | james_w: Thanks for taking on the NBS stuff. | 14:57 |
| james_w | there's still quite some to do unfortunately | 14:58 |
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| james_w | I'm starting a packaging training session on using bzr for Ubuntu development now in #ubuntu-classroom | 16:03 |
| james_w | anyone is welcome to come ask questions | 16:03 |
| james_w | even those who think they know everything ;-) | 16:03 |
| lfaraone | james_w: not sure :( | 16:22 |
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| micahg | ttx: I'm not sure how they choose what to sync, I had something else requested to sync that wasn't this morning even though it was approved | 17:04 |
| ttx | micahg: we'll see, I can upload the limited fix in case the sync gets rejected for any reason | 17:20 |
| * ttx disappears | 17:20 | |
| bdmurray | How or who do I talk to about getting bughelper removed from the archive? | 17:48 |
| geser | bdmurray: the archive admins via a bug | 17:48 |
| rbaut0 | exists a how-to about how packaging app that are build with maven ? | 18:27 |
| geser | rbaut0: if you don't find any, you might check how other package are done (look for package build-depending on maven) | 18:30 |
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| ScottK | bdrung: Thanks to your audacious upload there are now a number of packages build-depending on the old, no longer built ones. Please ensure they get transitioned. See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ for details. | 18:41 |
| bdrung | ScottK: there are four B-D on audacious-plugins-dev. This must be changed to audacious-dev, but all four package fail to build, because some functions are missing (renamed/removed?) | 19:00 |
| ScottK | bdrung: OK. Please take care of fixing it. | 19:00 |
| ScottK | hyperair: Similarly your dropping of banshee-extension-telepathy has left banshee-community-extensions uninstallable. | 19:02 |
| hyperair | ScottK: it hasn't built yet. | 19:02 |
| ScottK | hyperair: OK. Great. | 19:02 |
| hyperair | ScottK: it's been stuck in the queue for nearly 20 hours now, i think. | 19:02 |
| ScottK | hyperair: The buildds are really backed up. | 19:03 |
| hyperair | ScottK: weird, some hours ago i checked the buildds, and there were at least 8 i386 buildds idling | 19:03 |
| ScottK | hyperair: Those were PPA buildds. Not interchangable | 19:04 |
| hyperair | ScottK: aah i see. | 19:04 |
| hyperair | hmm 24hours, not <20h | 19:04 |
| ScottK | As the main freeze gets harder, things in Universe will catch up. | 19:06 |
| ScottK | bdrung: Feel free to ping sistpoty for help when he's around since he approved the FFe. | 19:14 |
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| bdrung | ScottK: do we need a FFe for bug fixes? | 19:26 |
| ScottK | bdrung: No. | 19:27 |
| bdrung | ScottK: so for what was this notice? | 19:27 |
| ScottK | Please don't do stuff like rewrite the entire build system if you can avoid it. | 19:27 |
| ScottK | bdrung: Getting the audacious rdpends fixed. | 19:27 |
| bdrung | ScottK: oh, i missreaded your comment: i read "since he approves FFe" instead of "since he approved the FFe" | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Ah. Right. | 19:29 |
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| bdrung | ScottK: bug #564087, #564088, #564091, #564092 | 19:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564087 in g15daemon-audacious "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564087 | 19:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564088 in imms "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564088 | 19:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564091 in upse "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564091 | 19:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564092 in xmp "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564092 | 19:38 |
| bdrung | where is sistpoty? | 19:38 |
| ScottK | Not sure. | 19:41 |
| ScottK | bdrung: I'd first check and see if any of those packages have new upstream versions that do build with 2.3. | 19:42 |
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| lfaraone | persia: in other news, it looks like asking nicely managed to convince the Debian maintainers to adopt the epoch for squeak-vm. Yay for cross-distro coordination! | 20:16 |
| persia | "asking nicely" is the most powerful tool in free software :) | 20:17 |
| persia | Extra points for asking nicely with a patch | 20:17 |
| lfaraone | persia: heh, there wasn't much to patch :) | 20:18 |
| * ScottK prefers asking nicely with a big stick, but doesn't always have that optin. | 20:20 | |
| ajmitch | ScottK: using a big stick in debian can be counterproductive | 20:20 |
| lfaraone | For SRUs, we should use version numbers like ubuntu0.1, right? (what if I'm considereing SRUing to multiple serieses?) | 20:27 |
| lfaraone | persia: uh, is bug 301190 corrently worded? (my second SRU) | 20:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 301190 in etoys "etoys does not launch" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301190 | 20:35 |
| persia | I'm not the best person to ask about SRUs, but it appear to have rationale, test case, and a patch. | 20:36 |
| * persia accepts some nominations, expecting lfarone will follow-up appropriately | 20:37 | |
| james_w | lfaraone: what was sugar-0.86 and why was it removed? | 20:41 |
| mhall119 | question: should this package branch have all the qimo-games* files in it? | 20:53 |
| mhall119 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/qimo-games/lucid/files | 20:53 |
| james_w | mhall119: no, they must have been in the source package when it was uploaded | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | do I file a bug and then propose a merge to remove them? | 20:55 |
| ScottK | mhall119: Yes | 20:56 |
| ScottK | Or attach a debdiff to the bug. | 20:56 |
| mhall119 | I already have the branch checked out | 20:58 |
| mhall119 | do I update the changelog when I do this, or will the person merging update it? | 20:59 |
| james_w | mhall119: update the changelog, but the uploader can do it for you if you want | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | what's the usual way of doing it? | 21:04 |
| * mhall119 is trying to learn the "correct" way | 21:04 | |
| james_w | adding the changelog entry is usual | 21:04 |
| mhall119 | ok | 21:04 |
| mhall119 | thanks | 21:04 |
| mhall119 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qimo-games/+bug/564152 | 21:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564152 in qimo-games "Package branch has extra archive files that shouldn't be there" [Undecided,New] | 21:11 |
| mhall119 | does that look right? | 21:11 |
| james_w | mhall119: looks ok to me | 21:18 |
| mhall119 | yay, I may finally be starting to get the hang of this | 21:20 |
| lfaraone | james_w: older version of sugar. It was removed since .88 is out, I guess, and we need only one version. | 23:02 |
| lfaraone | james_w: sadly due to some pyxpcom issues we can't ship a working sugar-browse, which is critical. | 23:03 |
| lfaraone | james_w: by the way, I can propose for a package to be merged into RELEASE-proposed like I do with "lucid" during the development cycle, right? | 23:04 |
| micahg | lfaraone: I can try to sort out the upstream pyxpcom goals after UDS | 23:05 |
| lfaraone | micahg: mk, thanks. that's a bit above me unfortunately :( | 23:05 |
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| james_w | lfaraone: but we can't keep them around depending on the removed package either | 23:58 |
| james_w | lfaraone: and you can propose for -proposed for karmic and earlier | 23:58 |
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