[00:01] guys could anyone help me check why a package fails to build a source pacakge? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/414593/ [00:03] keffie_jayx, it seems because you are using a T in CAPS instead of lowercase somewhere. [00:04] keffie_jayx: Probably in debian/changelog [00:04] mmm ok [00:05] debian/control [00:05] source=Turpial [00:05] I think that is it [00:07] directhex: we need the gluezilla patch in Ubuntu for sure [00:07] directhex: s/gluezilla/GRE [00:07] yep that was ir [00:08] thank RoAkSoAx ScottK [00:08] micahg, that's what broke it [00:08] directhex: I got it working [00:08] i did too, by removing the patch entirely [00:08] directhex: yes, but in that case, it uses the first GRE it finds which we don't want it to do [00:10] is it really the end of the world if it uses 1.9.1 when you have 1.9.1 installed? [00:11] directhex: 1.9.3 is the problem [00:11] howso? [00:11] directhex: crashes [00:11] with 2.4.3-2 ? [00:12] directhex: yes [00:12] without the GRE patch [00:12] sigh [00:12] this totally needs rewriting to use webkit instead [00:13] this is with 1.9.3 only installed, no 1.9.2? [00:15] directhex: no, with both 1.9.3 and 1.9.2 [00:16] are there 1.9.3 packages for karmic anywhere? [00:17] directhex: mozilla-daily PPA [00:21] tbh if it's crashing, you should post on mono-devel list. that's likely your best place for responses. i don't think your timezone and portugese timezone are entirely compatible [00:22] directhex: I'm ok with the timezones... [00:23] they're 6 hrs ahead of me [00:23] it's gone 1am there though, so i doubt andreia is about [00:23] directhex: I can try in the morning [00:24] indeed [00:24] also shana on gimpnet #mono. or @sh4na on twitter [00:24] directhex: k, will have to try in the morning [00:27] Anyone available to look at a universe package upload (no response to subscribing sponsors so far) ? [00:27] pbuilder fails, could the archive for pulling dependencies be down? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/414600/ [00:29] keffie_jayx: It's a 404 not found error: possibly the package version being requested has been superceded. You probably need to a pbuilder update before trying to build the package. [00:29] IntuitiveNipple: I have just updated pbuilder [00:29] * keffie_jayx updates again [00:30] keffie_jayx: Maybe the mirror you're using hasn't synced yet? check it manually using a browser to see what's there [00:30] thanks [00:30] I am updating again and removing that mirror from /etc/pbuilderrc [00:31] if it has 2.6.4 in its package listing for lucid, it's quite out of date [00:32] http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.6/ [00:32] keffie_jayx: Looking in that mirror, 1ubuntu1 isn't there: [00:33] yep [00:33] keffie_jayx: nor is 0ubuntu2 [00:33] what mirror do you recomend? [00:33] plain archive? [00:33] But there are *later* versions of those packages [00:34] so that seems to imply that the Releases files fetched/used by the pbuilder are out of date in some way...not sure I understand how. I *assume* the package you're building doesn't build-dep on those exact python versions? [00:34] what do I do If after I change the mirror pbuilder keeps loking in ve.archive.... [00:35] The mirror settings are in the pbuilder's own /etc/apt/ configuration so as long as that is changed it should be ok [00:36] keffie_jayx: You probably need to do a "pbuilder login --save-after-login ..." to change the apt sources.list [00:37] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/414604/ is my debian/control... [00:38] keffie_jayx: Yeah, that looks fine, it must be the pbuilder's apt settings [00:38] IntuitiveNipple: I'll look into that [00:40] IntuitiveNipple: after I login I have no editors :S [00:41] I install nano for that reason :) [00:41] there's vi but I never got the hang of its commands and interface [00:42] ahh [00:42] I can do vi [00:42] Package upload request (universe) apt-cacher bug #561902 [00:42] IntuitiveNipple: no vi there [00:42] Launchpad bug 561902 in apt-cacher "Sorry, not allowed to fetch that type of file" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561902 [00:42] install it using apt-get from the command line [00:44] Err http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main nano 2.1.11-3 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] [00:44] sed can do the trick [00:46] blimey you're not having much luck there! [00:47] got it [00:47] you can force apt-get to get the version you *know* is on the mirror using the version-suffix: e.g. apt-get install ${package}=2.1.11-4ubuntu1 [00:53] IntuitiveNipple: thanks ... pbuilder is now pulling deps fine now [00:55] keffie_jayx: What did you do? change the archive mirror it was using? [00:55] yep [00:55] changed it with sed [00:55] it worked fine [00:55] might be worth reporting to the archive/mirror admins in case that issue on ve is important [00:55] it complained a bit about pbuilder-dependdumy? [00:56] but I guess it was not that important [00:56] It always does, as in, unmet dependencies [00:57] Like: "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy" [00:57] mmm [00:57] my packages has binary filles in it and I hadn't noticed [00:57] the script generates .eggs [00:57] gotta go home for now [00:58] see you in a bit [00:59] k/quit [02:56] guys, just wanna thank everyone [02:57] I have just packaged my first aplication from scratch [02:57] it is a twitter client made in venezuela, and it is my first package in my ppa [02:57] excellent :) [02:58] the app is not in debian yet [02:58] what would be the procedure to getting it in Ubuntu for the nextrelease [02:58] TheMuso (or any Ubuntu Studio dev) apparently the Audacious package structure has changed and you'll need to update your seeds: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/audacious-plugins-extra [02:59] !revu | keffie_jayx [02:59] keffie_jayx: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [02:59] That's where you start, but don't expect much attention to be paid until after release. [02:59] ScottK: Thanks for the heads up. [02:59] ScottK: I thought so [02:59] ScottK: BTW as of lucid's release, I am resigning from the ubuntustudio dev team. [03:00] Just FYI. [03:00] TheMuso: Feel free to beat bdrung about the head and shoulders when you see him. [03:00] ScottK: thanks for all the help === persia changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect | Lucid Beta 2 Released | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [03:00] heh I am not that nasty. [03:00] persia: We still want Universe fixes though. Let's make that clear in /topic. [03:01] TheMuso: Who else should I be pinging about Studio? [03:01] persia: want to add that rcbugs url to the topic while you're at it? [03:01] Yes. Please. [03:01] * persia has to hand-type URLs because of a client issue: if someone else wants to change the topic: please just do it :) === ScottK changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [03:02] ScottK: Thank you. [03:02] * ScottK leaves RC bugs URL to ajmitch. [03:03] * ajmitch mutters === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [03:03] typical === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bu [03:03] doesn't quite fit :) === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [03:04] sorry for spam [03:04] Just means we have to dop something. [03:04] Let's drop the rebuild failures in favour of RCbugs for now. [03:05] rebuilds are important, but we've done the binary removals, so the FTBFS lists should be populated correctly at this point. [03:05] (assuming LP did the sensible thing) [03:05] drop the UDD FTBFS link? [03:06] Actually, try dropping debcheck first. [03:06] debcheck is important and all, but not as important as either rebuild failures or rcbugs. === ajmitch changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Final Freeze in effect, but keep uploading fixes! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [03:07] it only matters if people actually read the topic :) [03:07] Cool, it fits. [03:07] Yeah, well. [03:14] persia: LP does not create a build record after a binary removal, so the FTBFS won't have all you need. You need the rebuild failures. [03:14] * ScottK notes "The Unapproved queue is empty." and invites people to change that. [03:15] ScottK: Should I process 500 changelog-only uploads to remedy that, or is there a better way? [03:16] * persia grumbles. This CD managed to install on this hardware successfully (except for bugs) the last 7 times, and now it fails :( [03:17] lol [03:17] ScottK: Re studio, for lucid, its pretty much me atm, but for Maverick and beyond, I don't know. The team are still sorting themselves out I think. [03:17] TheMuso: OK. Thanks. [03:17] persia: There is a better way. [03:18] ScottK: What's the better way, and who is doing it? [03:18] Or is the better way to review each, and upload things that fix the FTBFS? [03:18] The better way is to look at /topic, investigate the links, and do something useful. [03:18] persia: Excellent. [03:19] * ajmitch looks for this mythical empty queue [03:19] Oh well. I was hoping for consolidated reporting. [03:20] ajmitch: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= [03:21] ScottK: if you were bored, the karmic unapproved queue isn't empty :) [03:24] The output of apt-cache unmet |grep -v Recommends|grep -v Suggests|less is also somewhat instructive, although it does require some interpretation. [03:31] ajmitch: Boost accepted. I'm not messing with Landscape. [03:33] ScottK: I don't care about landscape :) [03:34] * ScottK neither [03:34] 'apt-cache -i unmet' will probably do what you wanted there, too [03:35] Sure enough. Thanks. [03:48] whats wrong with landscape? [03:48] I didn't touch it, so I don't know what changes it has in karmic-proposed [03:49] ah ok...i thought something was actually wrong with it [03:52] nah, it just has an update to be accepted by an archive admin [03:52] heh..yeah i know I put it there ;) [03:53] oh did you now? :) [03:53] well uploaded it [03:53] anyways [03:53] im falling asleep [03:53] * ajmitch has been doing that all day [03:58] zul: It has special rules about what's OK. [05:07] TheMuso: would you like to sponsor a vlc patch for me? [05:09] * ajmitch wonders what we should do with spe - it depends on pychecker, which was removed [05:10] ajmitch: bring a new/working version of pychecker back? [05:11] at this late stage? it's possible, but it was removed due to python2.6 compatibility [05:11] ajmitch: did debian not get a working version since then? [05:12] which may or may not have been correct [05:12] it has a version which appears to work, but has some open bugs with regards to py 2.6 features [05:12] ajmitch: well, idk about now, but I filed a sync for something that was removed due to FTBFS, but it was fixed [05:12] so I'm not sure if it's worth dragging back in yet or not [05:12] ajmitch: ah [05:13] ajmitch: is spe needeed? [05:13] ajmitch: pychecker is needed, IIRC, for spe installability, so getting it back would be good. [05:13] (if it works) [05:13] ScottK: yes, this is what I'm talking about, someone mentioned spe being uninstallable in the loco channel [05:14] it at least has issues with relative imports [05:14] I heard someone say it worked with 2.6, but never had a chance to look into it. [05:14] That'd be a problem in 2.5 too, right? [05:14] would you be able to approve letting it back in from sid if that's the case? [05:14] not sure [05:15] I'll take care of Newing it, yes. [05:15] I'll see how it builds & runs on lucid [05:16] For now I'm going to go collapse for a few hours. [05:17] OK [05:17] it passes a test suite when builkdding on lucid, so there's hope [05:18] Great. Good night. [05:18] night [05:19] night Scottk [05:39] ugh got a strange problem [05:40] and arch : all package that has to be built on ppc though [05:40] ... [05:40] anyway to force that on soyuz ? [05:48] No. [05:49] It is, however, ridiculously easy to implement once a control field has been decided upon. [05:50] something like Build-Architecture? [05:51] Something like that, yes. [05:53] hum ok, i guess no openbios-{ppc,sparc} for lucid then [05:54] those sort of packages have often been a problem [05:54] yea, i rember them messing with my head a year or two ago [05:57] I suppose it ought to be mostly safe by now to upgrade my laptop to lucid [05:59] ajmitch: I'd wait for the 2.6.32-21 kernel to hit the repos first [06:00] there have been a few issues with -20? :) [06:00] i've been on it a few weeks on my laptop, seems fine so far, no major breakage [06:01] Linux jordan 2.6.32-21-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 13 20:34:00 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [06:01] looks like -21 is in [06:01] :) [06:01] yeah, I saw the source upload [06:01] didn't know how backlogged buildds are [06:02] yea i downloaded it a few minutes ago from archive , not sure about the contry codes [06:02] country* [06:02] I have archive.u.c in sources.list [06:02] * micahg is wondering why an upgrade hans't been offered [06:02] micahg: apt-get update :) [06:02] i386 vs amd64? [06:03] maybe, i'm on x86_64 but run 32bit [06:03] imbrandon: ah, that's probably it [06:04] ajmitch: so i'm thinkin about sellin my wow acct [06:04] lkol [06:04] lol* [06:04] k [06:04] I'm not buying [06:05] hahah i know [06:05] i just keep seeing them on Craigslist for $1000 for about half of what i have [06:05] i'm like hum, an easy $1k usd [06:05] lol [06:05] just because they're listed for that doesn't mean they'd sell for that much [06:06] true [06:06] imho someone would be an idiot to pay for one, but thats ok, an idiot is easily parted with his $ [06:07] yep [06:08] now if you were to try & sell your LP account we'd have to beat you :) [06:08] hahaha [06:08] you know that had never crossed my mind, thats kinda nuts [06:09] wonder what a dd gpg+ssh key would go for ? hahahahahahah blasphmy [06:09] if any developer were to do that, they'd be blacklisted rather fast, I hope [06:09] exactly [06:10] and since the wot is fairly personal, i would be hard to get back [06:10] the reputation that is [06:10] they may even end up with a personal visit from some nice people... [06:10] :) [06:12] honestly now that you mention it, i wonder if its ever been attempted or if there is a contengcy plan ( other than that of any other time there has been untrusted access to the dd systems ) [06:12] i hope not but still ... [06:15] you know i wish there was once place/page to manage all the lists.ubuntu.com subscriptions , instead of goting to each mailmans interface [06:15] imbrandon: you can bulk change your address [06:16] ? [06:16] do tell [06:16] imbrandon: you can change your address for all lists in one shot [06:16] no no i got that part, but where [06:16] * micahg is looking [06:17] I think you can do it once you're logged in to any of the lists. [06:17] I did it a couple of years ago, but don't remember the details. It wasn't that unobvious. [06:17] maybe that's it [06:17] see thats 3/4 of my problem, i've signed up to half the lists with diffrent email addresses etc ( but they all forward to my same inbox ) so its hard to manage them all [06:18] lol [06:18] * micahg did that too and migrated everything to ubuntu.com address once I acquired one [06:18] some are @ubuntu.com some are @kubuntu.org some are my gmail , lol [06:19] and heck its been 4 years since i signed up on some of the lists [06:19] lol [06:19] ajmitch: can you ack a sync? [06:23] awesom, i found the area to do it ( on the ML pages ) thanks [06:26] micahg: I'm at a conference in paris this week, so if you need a sponsor, I won't be avaiable before the weekend when I'm back home [06:26] siretart: I'm trying to find someone to do it [06:27] what do you need micahg ? [06:27] imbrandon: I need vlc sponsored and phpmyadmin sync acked [06:28] i can take a look at vlc for ya, where do you have it ? [06:28] imbrandon: bug 558981 [06:28] Launchpad bug 558981 in vlc "vlc fails to build against xulrunner-1.9.2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558981 [06:28] hi hyperair [06:28] micahg: ok, added to my queue, i'll lookit over / upload before i sleep tonight [06:28] imbrandon: great, thanks [06:29] * micahg would like to get a few days of testing before release [06:35] imbrandon: would you be able to push a packagekit rebuild for me or is it too late? [06:36] micahg: I may be able to look at phpmyadmin in a bit, just in the middle of upgrading my laptop now [06:36] ajmitch: k [06:40] Its too late [06:41] unless it meets final freeze exception criteria [06:41] cody-somerville: k, seems like it only has a build-dep on xul191 and not a runtime dep [06:44] seems like the only thing left that actually needs xul191 in archive to run is gjs [06:44] * micahg will fix this weekend [06:48] micahg: changes look good, test build is also fine, get me an FFe on IRC or on the bug report from a release team member and i'll upload it [06:49] imbrandon: should an FFe ack already in the bug... [06:49] * imbrandon will look closer [06:50] imbrandon: wait, it's an FTBFS fix...I guess I do need an FFe...this gets confusing [06:50] :) [06:51] just ping any of the awake release team members on irc or get them to ack it, i'll take care of the rest if wanted [06:51] imbrandon: I just asked pitti [06:51] k [06:51] brb more mt dew time [06:51] * micahg requested several already this week and thought all were had [06:55] imbrandon: pitti said it's bug fix only, so go for it [07:13] micahg: k will so [07:13] do* [07:17] imbrandon: thanks [07:21] micahg: hello. [07:23] micahg: You've got a fix for that gjs madness? [07:25] micahg: uploaded, should have email shortly [07:29] RAOF: this weekend, sorry for the delay [07:29] imbrandon: thanks [07:29] RAOF: gjs is the last thing that depends on xul191 in lucid, but it depends on an older version ATM, so it doesn't matter [07:29] micahg: No need to be sorry! I was just wondering how you'd fixed it :) [07:30] RAOF: I still have my idea, I just need time to look into it, unfortunately, I was thrown a curveball with vlc and we just got that uploaded tonight === ogra_ is now known as ogra [07:51] good morning [08:08] hi dholbach [08:09] hey ajmitch [08:33] gnight all [08:34] gnight imbrandon, thanks again [08:44] hey, I'd like to propose guayadeque for inclusion in the Ubuntu repos. https://sourceforge.net/projects/guayadeque/ it's not my project but anonbeats. it's a quite advanced lightweight AudioPlayer with a very fast development and a very active group of users behind it [09:00] if there is anybody willing to help us in order to include guayadeque, we'll discuss this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1398128 [09:27] wow, plymouth looks ugly on fglrx :) [09:48] ajmitch: I thought that release doesn't need to ack bug fix only universe packages until RC week [09:49] ajmitch: ah, it seems that it was updated :) [09:49] * micahg thinks he said the same thing by beta 2 [10:01] micahg: I thought I'd subscribe them before I got told off too much [10:02] ajmitch: no, you're correct, I forgot that the policy changed this cycle === hannesw_ is now known as hannesw [10:22] is making a source package compile on amd64 as well as i386 something that needs a FFe? [10:25] directhex: I don't think so, but I think at this point, you need a -release ack for upload [10:25] even for universe? [10:25] hm, spose so [10:25] directhex: I should restate, I'm assuming that it was capable and something broke and it's not new like all to separate arch? [10:26] directhex: I think it's new this cycle even for universe [10:26] * micahg keeps forgetting [10:26] micahg, it was previously Arch:i386, due to a very small bug [10:27] directhex: idk, you should probably just ask in -release and you can get whatever ack you need at this point :) [10:27] or maybe someone else will pop in here :) [10:54] You don't need any additional approval for unseeded packages [10:55] Laney: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#Exceptions%20for%20Universe/Multiverse seems to imply something else [10:56] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-April/000705.html [10:56] Laney: I thought I saw it somewhere :) [10:57] * micahg goes to subscribe ubuntu-archive to my sync [10:59] Laney: should I sync be confirmed after MOTU ack or still NEW? [10:59] *a sync [10:59] I don't understand [10:59] "or still NEW"? [10:59] Laney: the status on a sync bug should be confirmed or new after MOTU ack? [11:00] oh, confirmed if you have sponsors ack [11:00] Laney: yep, he just thought release ack was needed [11:00] maybe it needs an ffe [11:00] Laney: bug fix release [11:01] Laney: you want to verify? [11:01] no, it's alright [11:33] ScottK: bug 563697 if you would be so kind [11:33] Launchpad bug 563697 in bacula-doc "FFe: sync bacula-doc 5.0.1-1 from unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563697 [11:38] Looking [11:42] james_w: Approved. [11:43] thanks === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [12:14] bdrung: Your vlc upload has an undocumented change in debian/rules. I'm going to reject it. If that was desired, please document both the change and the rationale. [12:18] Can someone with archive please sync hedgewars? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hedgewars/+bug/555082 [12:18] Launchpad bug 555082 in hedgewars "new version 0.9.13 released ... ppp (pretty please package)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [12:20] ScottK: it's for installing the apport hook [12:21] bdrung: As long as you tested it, reupload with a more thorough changelog then. [12:42] If I include python-fpconst on lucid (pbuilder) for build depends, the build fails with "Depends: python-fpconst which is a virtual package", though it looks normal... any idea how to hack this? [13:04] lfaraone: know what we should do with http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/sugar-0.86 ? === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [13:16] hyperair: any idea about http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/banshee-extension-telepathy ? [13:17] james_w: oh yeah, sorry i forgot to tell you. please remove it. [13:17] hyperair: remove what? [13:17] james_w: -telepathy. [13:17] i commented out the package [13:17] it's documented in the changelog [13:17] eh? [13:17] telepathy-gabble >= 0.9 doesn't exist in lucid [13:17] it's not installable. [13:17] you just uploaded? [13:17] oh [13:18] the problem is that banshee-community-extensions still depends on it [13:19] james_w: heh? i thought i commented that out as well. [13:19] pls to be fixing [13:19] james_w: it is commented out. [13:19] james_w: are you sure you're looking at the correct version? [13:19] james_w: -1ubuntu3 [13:20] no idea [13:20] I'm just going on the output of NBS [13:20] it's commented out [13:20] your answer can be "It's waiting in the build queue", or "it was only built two hours ago" [13:20] er [13:20] more like it hasn't been built at all? [13:21] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44184394/banshee-community-extensions_1.6.0-1ubuntu2_1.6.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz [13:21] fine, it's waiting in the build queue. [13:21] ok [13:21] must have been skew with the old standalone package or something [13:21] I'll remove the binary and it will all work itself out when that builds [13:22] okay === ogra_ is now known as ogra === joaopinto_ is now known as joaopinto === MTeck is now known as MTecknology === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [14:47] hi #ubuntu-motu. how do I help fix a bug in a package whose maintainer is "Ubuntu MOTU Developers"? [14:48] make a debdiff containing the fix and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug [14:52] nenolod and kreuter: ubuntu-sponsors, not ubuntu-universe-sponsors anymore. [14:55] oops. [14:55] well i haven't needed to fix a ubuntu package in some time. :p [14:57] james_w: Thanks for taking on the NBS stuff. [14:58] there's still quite some to do unfortunately === starshiptrooper is now known as apachelogger === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz [16:03] I'm starting a packaging training session on using bzr for Ubuntu development now in #ubuntu-classroom [16:03] anyone is welcome to come ask questions [16:03] even those who think they know everything ;-) [16:22] james_w: not sure :( === apachelogger is now known as starshiptrooper [17:04] ttx: I'm not sure how they choose what to sync, I had something else requested to sync that wasn't this morning even though it was approved [17:20] micahg: we'll see, I can upload the limited fix in case the sync gets rejected for any reason [17:20] * ttx disappears [17:48] How or who do I talk to about getting bughelper removed from the archive? [17:48] bdmurray: the archive admins via a bug [18:27] exists a how-to about how packaging app that are build with maven ? [18:30] rbaut0: if you don't find any, you might check how other package are done (look for package build-depending on maven) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:41] bdrung: Thanks to your audacious upload there are now a number of packages build-depending on the old, no longer built ones. Please ensure they get transitioned. See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ for details. [19:00] ScottK: there are four B-D on audacious-plugins-dev. This must be changed to audacious-dev, but all four package fail to build, because some functions are missing (renamed/removed?) [19:00] bdrung: OK. Please take care of fixing it. [19:02] hyperair: Similarly your dropping of banshee-extension-telepathy has left banshee-community-extensions uninstallable. [19:02] ScottK: it hasn't built yet. [19:02] hyperair: OK. Great. [19:02] ScottK: it's been stuck in the queue for nearly 20 hours now, i think. [19:03] hyperair: The buildds are really backed up. [19:03] ScottK: weird, some hours ago i checked the buildds, and there were at least 8 i386 buildds idling [19:04] hyperair: Those were PPA buildds. Not interchangable [19:04] ScottK: aah i see. [19:04] hmm 24hours, not <20h [19:06] As the main freeze gets harder, things in Universe will catch up. [19:14] bdrung: Feel free to ping sistpoty for help when he's around since he approved the FFe. === starshiptrooper is now known as apachelogger [19:26] ScottK: do we need a FFe for bug fixes? [19:27] bdrung: No. [19:27] ScottK: so for what was this notice? [19:27] Please don't do stuff like rewrite the entire build system if you can avoid it. [19:27] bdrung: Getting the audacious rdpends fixed. [19:29] ScottK: oh, i missreaded your comment: i read "since he approves FFe" instead of "since he approved the FFe" [19:29] Ah. Right. === slacker_nl is now known as slacker|away === slacker|away is now known as slacker_nl [19:38] ScottK: bug #564087, #564088, #564091, #564092 [19:38] Launchpad bug 564087 in g15daemon-audacious "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564087 [19:38] Launchpad bug 564088 in imms "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564088 [19:38] Launchpad bug 564091 in upse "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564091 [19:38] Launchpad bug 564092 in xmp "FTBFS against audacious 2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564092 [19:38] where is sistpoty? [19:41] Not sure. [19:42] bdrung: I'd first check and see if any of those packages have new upstream versions that do build with 2.3. === kobrien_ is now known as kobrien [20:16] persia: in other news, it looks like asking nicely managed to convince the Debian maintainers to adopt the epoch for squeak-vm. Yay for cross-distro coordination! [20:17] "asking nicely" is the most powerful tool in free software :) [20:17] Extra points for asking nicely with a patch [20:18] persia: heh, there wasn't much to patch :) [20:20] * ScottK prefers asking nicely with a big stick, but doesn't always have that optin. [20:20] ScottK: using a big stick in debian can be counterproductive [20:27] For SRUs, we should use version numbers like ubuntu0.1, right? (what if I'm considereing SRUing to multiple serieses?) [20:35] persia: uh, is bug 301190 corrently worded? (my second SRU) [20:35] Launchpad bug 301190 in etoys "etoys does not launch" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301190 [20:36] I'm not the best person to ask about SRUs, but it appear to have rationale, test case, and a patch. [20:37] * persia accepts some nominations, expecting lfarone will follow-up appropriately [20:41] lfaraone: what was sugar-0.86 and why was it removed? [20:53] question: should this package branch have all the qimo-games* files in it? [20:53] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/qimo-games/lucid/files [20:55] mhall119: no, they must have been in the source package when it was uploaded [20:55] do I file a bug and then propose a merge to remove them? [20:56] mhall119: Yes [20:56] Or attach a debdiff to the bug. [20:58] I already have the branch checked out [20:59] do I update the changelog when I do this, or will the person merging update it? [21:02] mhall119: update the changelog, but the uploader can do it for you if you want [21:04] what's the usual way of doing it? [21:04] * mhall119 is trying to learn the "correct" way [21:04] adding the changelog entry is usual [21:04] ok [21:04] thanks [21:11] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qimo-games/+bug/564152 [21:11] Launchpad bug 564152 in qimo-games "Package branch has extra archive files that shouldn't be there" [Undecided,New] [21:11] does that look right? [21:18] mhall119: looks ok to me [21:20] yay, I may finally be starting to get the hang of this [23:02] james_w: older version of sugar. It was removed since .88 is out, I guess, and we need only one version. [23:03] james_w: sadly due to some pyxpcom issues we can't ship a working sugar-browse, which is critical. [23:04] james_w: by the way, I can propose for a package to be merged into RELEASE-proposed like I do with "lucid" during the development cycle, right? [23:05] lfaraone: I can try to sort out the upstream pyxpcom goals after UDS [23:05] micahg: mk, thanks. that's a bit above me unfortunately :( === janito_ is now known as joaopinto_ [23:58] lfaraone: but we can't keep them around depending on the removed package either [23:58] lfaraone: and you can propose for -proposed for karmic and earlier