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micahgbdrung: and I'll make a note in the changelog00:00
cwillu_at_workwho wants to see a crasher?00:13
cwillu_at_worknobody wants to see a crasher?00:16
* micahg wishes that this TB update was simple00:18
cwillu_at_workBUGabundo, ping00:24
BUGabundopong00:26
cwillu_at_workhai <300:26
cwillu_at_workBUGabundo, mind checking something for me?00:27
BUGabundois it quick?00:27
cwillu_at_workyep00:27
BUGabundoreplying to email00:27
cwillu_at_workopen a firefox that you don't care about00:27
BUGabundoand trying to kill my feeds number00:27
cwillu_at_workhttp://scaletech.cwillu.com/truck/00:27
BUGabundotoo much work, can't read at work :(00:28
cwillu_at_worktell me when you've got 10kg showing up :)00:28
BUGabundoitsss loww00:28
BUGabundoand sucking cpu00:28
cwillu_at_workit's open already?00:28
cwillu_at_workmissed the connect00:28
BUGabundocwillu The connection has timed out00:28
cwillu_at_workdid it just work?00:28
BUGabundoretying00:28
micahgchrisccoulson: bug 56344100:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 563441 in thunderbird-locales "Update thunderbird-locales to Thunderbird 3.0.4 translations" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56344100:29
cwillu_at_work95.172.225.5800:29
BUGabundoopens00:29
cwillu_at_workokay, one sec00:29
BUGabundonow what?00:29
cwillu_at_workreload the page00:29
cwillu_at_workctrl-r00:29
BUGabundoone00:29
BUGabundodone00:29
cwillu_at_workno crash?00:30
BUGabundonone00:30
cwillu_at_workokay00:30
BUGabundobut I have noscript on that page00:30
cwillu_at_work...00:30
BUGabundo:)00:30
BUGabundoI don't trust the web00:31
BUGabundodo you ?00:31
cwillu_at_workI do <300:31
cwillu_at_workthe web would never hurt me00:31
BUGabundodo you want me to allow it?00:31
cwillu_at_workme and the web, we go way back00:31
cwillu_at_workyes please :)00:31
BUGabundodone00:31
BUGabundonow ?00:31
cwillu_at_workand ctrl-r00:31
cwillu_at_workno crash?00:32
BUGabundonope00:32
BUGabundorefreshing00:33
BUGabundoslowwww00:33
cwillu_at_workslow connection, and you're connected to a server on a beagleboard :p00:33
BUGabundoas in lost CSS00:33
BUGabundoreload again ?00:33
cwillu_at_worknah00:33
cwillu_at_workwonder if it got fixed in a point release00:34
cwillu_at_workyou're on 3.6.4?00:34
cwillu_at_workI can crash on 3.5 and 3.6.300:34
BUGabundodaily ppa00:37
* cwillu_at_work sees another firefox build in his future00:38
micahgfta: are the dailies going back into production tonight?00:38
asacmicahg: lucid only00:52
asac(dailies)00:52
micahgasac: k00:52
micahgasac: that'll be good so we can test OOPP00:52
asacright00:52
micahgasac: you have time to push/check thunderbird-locales for me00:53
asacthats why i ensured we can enable at least that for now00:53
asacmicahg: where are they?00:53
asacmicahg: are they fully tested?00:53
asacits 7 minutes till freeze00:53
asacand then i get painful whips if i broke something without testing ;)00:53
micahgasac: bug 56344100:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 563441 in thunderbird-locales "Update thunderbird-locales to Thunderbird 3.0.4 translations" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56344100:54
* micahg test built, will test install/verfiy now00:54
asacmicahg: did i sponsor the first 3.0 upload ?00:55
asachmm. verison is bad00:56
asacits native upload00:56
asacno -00:56
micahgasac: I just did what was there before00:56
asacmicahg: was the 2.0 package native too?00:56
micahgasac: no00:57
micahgasac: so, do you want me to make it native versioning?00:58
micahgasac: or create a .orig.tar.gz00:58
asac      + Use 'install-xpi -i' to install to same directory as before00:58
asacmicahg: whats that?00:58
asacwhy i sthat suddenly needed?00:58
micahgasac: mozilla-devscripts now installs in /usr/share/xul-ext and we didn't want to do that00:59
asacmicahg: we didnt use install-xpi before at all it seems00:59
micahgasac: no, we did00:59
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/414614/01:00
asacthats not clean diff01:00
micahgasac: I moved the code for modifying the maxversion out of the way01:01
* micahg guesses he could just comment out in place01:01
asacyou should have removed it01:01
asacno comments01:01
micahgasac: we'll need it for 3.1 release01:01
asacthat looks not clean enough ;)01:01
micahgasac: for Maverick I will make a separate target for it01:02
micahgasac: I guess I can drop it then and add it back next time01:02
micahgasac: should I do that?01:03
asacmicahg: why is our install-xpi now equivalent?01:03
asacwas it broken without the -i ?01:03
micahgasac: top line01:03
micahgin your diff01:03
asacyes, that doesnt have -i01:03
asaci dont get why we suddenly need it01:03
asacdid mozilla-devscript regress?01:04
micahgasac: right, new behavior is to install in /usr/share/xul-ext vs /usr/share/01:04
asacmicahg: did you test the binaries?01:04
micahgasac: I just tested 1 and it worked fine01:04
asac1 usually isnt good enough01:05
asacwe need to test all primary locales01:05
asacfor an upload like this01:05
asacfr, de, es, pt, en, en_GB01:06
micahgasac: all look good01:09
micahgasac: what should I do with that comment in rules?01:09
micahgasac: and the version?01:09
asacthats ok01:09
asaci am finishing testbuild and then upload (i wont test he outcome)01:09
asaclets hope archive is still open then01:09
micahgasac: k, I got the FFe for Seamokey01:09
asacno new packages?01:10
asacmicahg: we dont have seaemonkey ready afaik01:10
micahgasac: I'll have it ready thsi weekend01:10
micahgasac: should be similar to TB01:10
micahgasac: if it takes me too long, we'll have to drop from archive01:11
asacooops the upload just finished :)01:13
micahgasac: ?01:13
asacguess too late if my testbuildfails01:13
asaclocales01:13
micahgok01:13
micahgasac: I tested in pbuilder01:13
micahgasac: since I added the stub packages for 3.0, we have no new binary apckages01:14
micahgasac: also, I just modified the upstream .xpi since we're doing native for Tamil and Sinhala01:15
micahggot rid of the whitespace01:15
asactha upstream .xpi modifications ... are those reproduci ble`01:15
asac?01:15
asacare upstream bugs filed?01:15
micahgasac: yes and yes01:16
micahgI just deleted the whitespace01:16
micahgI should have made a changelog note01:16
micahgasac: and I poked upstream on those 2 as there was no action, you're copied as well01:16
micahgasac: I was hoping the update would take 5 minutes and ended up taking an hour...01:17
micahgasac: thanks for the upload :)01:21
micahgasac: does blueprint = session at UDS or just an action item for next release?01:22
asacdepends01:23
asacnot all blueprints get sessions01:24
micahgasac: I wanted to make a blueprint to clean up the mozilla packages and enhance documentation/standards/consistency01:24
asacif thats what you ask01:24
micahgdon't need a session really01:24
asacif someone wants a session he needs to propose it01:24
asacyeah01:24
micahgbut would like to get approval for it01:24
asacyou can write a blueprint and submit it for review to get approval01:24
micahgasac: k, who should review?01:25
asacgood question.01:26
asacpropose it for lucid ...01:26
asacand if nothing happens give me the blueprint name01:27
asaci will sort out01:27
asac ;)01:27
micahgasac: lucid or maverick?01:27
asaci guess you know the answer :-P01:27
micahgasac: k01:27
micahgasac: 10 insecure left for hardy01:29
micahg+ testing for all01:29
asac10 out of how many ;)?01:30
micahgasac: 1501:30
asacheh ok01:30
asachurry ;)01:30
asacwhat is with gluezilla in lucid?01:30
micahgasac: once I have hardy + karmic/lucid changes, jaunty should be easy01:30
micahgasac: I'm arguing that out with directhex01:30
micahgI think I fixed the GRE patch01:30
asacmicahg: is there any way to fix it?01:30
micahgI think I got it working01:31
micahgasac: but he dropped the xul patch in debian01:31
micahgand then sync'd to Ubuntu01:31
asacand since then its broken?01:32
asaci thought he wanted to sync a new version01:32
micahgasac: yes, new Debian version w/out the GRE patch01:32
asacwith the right thing i place01:32
asacmicahg: with what kind of plan?01:32
asacjust ignorant?01:32
micahgasac: "it seems to work" plan01:32
asacand now?01:33
asacwhen was that sync?01:33
micahgasac: with xul193 it crashes01:33
micahgearlier today01:33
asacmicahg: what does gluezilla use now?01:33
asaclinks directly with -rpath or what?01:33
micahgasac: was using 19101:33
asacno01:33
asaci mean ... what ws the GRE patch?01:33
asacwasnt that the standalone glue booting?01:33
micahgasac: I think so01:33
asacdebian/patches/xulrunner_1.9.1_by_default.dpatch01:34
asacthat one is still in there01:34
asacand there is still the booting code01:34
asacisnt that what you meant?01:34
micahgasac: commented out in series01:34
asacmicahg: so did you agree on a way forward?01:35
asacor should i poke him=?01:35
micahgasac: well, I need to prove that I'm right that xul193 crashes which I think I'll do in the morning01:35
asacerr01:35
micahghe was going to grab xul193 from mozila daily repo01:35
asacwhy do you need to proof that?01:35
asacprove ;)01:35
micahgasac: doesn't crash on xul191 or xul19201:36
asacmicahg: if its built against xul 1.9.2?01:36
asacit should crash on 19101:36
asacor at least its bad01:36
asaclet me check with him01:36
micahgactually, I think it'll try to pull 192 if 191 and 192 are avaialble01:36
micahgthe problem is when it tries to pull19301:36
asaci think thats in theory really ok01:37
asacthe problem is that it might pull 191 even though its linked against 19201:37
asacthats wrong01:37
asacand to be safe we should constraint maxVersion too ... yes.01:37
micahgasac: the default in gluezilla is max system GRE01:38
asacmicahg: use 1.9.2 and 1.9.*01:42
asacor 1.9.301:42
asacwhatever you want01:42
micahgasac: this seems to work: http://pastebin.com/LjcszwPB01:43
micahgasac: I was going to try to talk to upstream about all the rdepends after lucid is released and try to get everything updated to xul192, most are already moving in that direction though01:45
micahg*upstreams01:45
micahgbbia 2hrs01:47
asacok01:50
asaci will see if i can check the gluezilla thing01:50
asacfta: you enabled all chromium ?03:11
asacintrepid to karmic?03:11
asacthougth we wanted lucid first to give them some hope ;)03:11
asacok thats beta. guess that wasnt disabled03:12
chrisccoulsonasac - do you not sleep? ;)03:18
DanaGI'm still having this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/51388703:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 513887 in firefox "Flash, Java, etc. does not work with out of process plugins and causes Firefox to become unresponsive" [High,Triaged]03:50
DanaGgreat, and there are literally NO 3.6.3plugin1 Linux64 builds I can find, ANYWHERE, that don't have the brokenness described there.04:21
micahgDanaG: we'll have new builds tonight that will hopefully work04:22
DanaGah, cool.04:22
DanaGweird... trying to add security exception for here ( https://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~bellardo/courses/2104/464/index.shtml ) causes a crash in hash4/04:27
DanaG.   It happens even before asking for username and password, and I believe it even happens in safe-mode.04:28
micahgDanaG: I don't know what hash4 is04:29
DanaGNor do I.04:29
DanaGBut it's the name of the function that's crashing.04:29
micahgDanaG: can you use firefox -g to get a backtrace?04:30
DanaGwww.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/firefox-crash.log04:33
DanaGthat's with "thread apply all bt"04:33
DanaGer, looks like I need to install more debug symbols.04:33
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DanaG#0  0x00007fffdafb3d66 in hash4 () from /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/libnssdbm3.so04:41
DanaGhmm, still missing debug symbols?04:41
DanaGwww.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/firefox-crash.log -- replaced file; still missing some debug symbols despite having installed everything.04:42
micahgDanaG: which firefox do you have installed?04:56
DanaGii  firefox                                            3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu204:57
DanaGii  firefox-dbgsym                                     3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu204:57
micahgDanaG: it's been fixed in the latest upload04:57
DanaGand same for gnome-support and gnome-support-dbgsym04:57
DanaGThe hash4, or the symbols?04:58
micahgDanaG: the crash04:58
DanaGCool.  For reference, do you have the bug number on hand?04:58
DanaGAnd I'm wondering why there still seem to be some missing debug symbols.04:58
micahgDanaG: no, it was an NSS hash issue04:58
DanaGah.  Anyway, once  the 3.7 plugin-isolation is fixed, I'll be using that again.04:58
DanaGoh yeah, and I went to try the plugin-isolation on OS X... and boy was I surprised when that feature didn't work there.04:59
DanaGThe release notes don't easily say "plugin isolation (excluding OS X)".05:00
micahgDanaG: hasn't been released yet05:00
DanaGAnd only in the FAQ do they ask WHY it doesn't work... before they've even annouced the fact that it doesn't work.05:00
DanaGAbout all I'd ask for is a change to the wording on that page... say right at the top "(except OS X -- see FAQ)"05:01
DanaGhttp://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.3plugin1/releasenotes/ -- this page, to be specific.  Read downwards, you'll see what I mean.05:10
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BUGabundo_remotebRoas08:38
micahgchrisccoulson_: seems like it's too late for packagekit10:19
micahgchrisccoulson: seems like it's too late for packagekit10:28
chrisccoulsonmicahg - it could probably still be rebuilt, but i can't do that (I can't upload it)10:29
micahgchrisccoulson: do we need to rebuild? it has no binary depends AFAICT10:29
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i was wondering the same actually. we already rebuild a few with no binary depends, but AFAICT it doesn't actually have any runtime xulrunner depends10:30
chrisccoulson(it's just the browser plugin)10:30
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, when do you think we should drop xul191?  The last rdepends AFAICT is gjs and that's on an older version than in archive10:32
chrisccoulsoni was going to try and fix gjs today10:32
micahgbinary rdepends10:32
micahgchrisccoulson: k, if you can go for it10:32
chrisccoulsonmicahg - and sugar10:33
micahgchrisccoulson: I still think it has to do with that return type no longer being the expected null10:33
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, almost forgot about that...10:33
micahgchrisccoulson: is sugar going back in?10:34
chrisccoulsonmicahg - so, i talked with asac about that yesterday, and we sort-of agreed that the only way forward now is the unpopular one (we have to drop it from the archive)10:34
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I think we can probably make something work for maverick10:35
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, that sounds good. but, unforunately we're going to have to drop it in lucid10:35
micahgchrisccoulson: once we get the packages for maverick, we can help them create a PPA for Lucid10:35
chrisccoulsonfantastic, none of the gjs tests run when xulrunner is built with --enable-debug12:06
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asacchrisccoulson: thats normal12:13
asacif you build xul with --enable-debug you also have to rebuild rdepends12:14
asacas some headers are changed by DEBUG12:14
asac:/12:14
chrisccoulsonasac - that's what i'm doing though (i'm investigating a gjs test-suite failure)12:14
chrisccoulsonso, gjs is built against the debug version of xulrunner in my build environment12:14
chrisccoulsonbut all tests now are bailing out with:12:15
chrisccoulson(cx)->requestDepth || (cx)->thread == (cx)->runtime->gcThread, at jsapi.cpp:287612:15
chrisccoulsonoops12:15
chrisccoulsoni missed the "Assertion failure" message off the start of that ;)12:15
asacchrisccoulson: right. but the headers have #ifdef ....12:16
asacso you need to have the same defs set12:16
asacif thats the problem at all here12:16
gnomefreakjust a guess here but is the daily bot down?13:09
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gnomefreaknot sure if my question was posted it seems i lost connection but here it is again just in case. is the daily bot down?13:15
gnomefreakalso Chromiun-browser does not print correctly, it prints too far to right and cuts off a bit of each line13:33
chrisccoulsonfta - there?14:15
* gnomefreak missing Firefox, Chromium for me is not an everyday browser14:30
* gnomefreak be back14:30
gnomefreakbug 9065215:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 90652 in thunderbird "MASTER mozilla-thunderbird crashed [@NS_InitXPCOM3_P] [@nsVoidArray] [@??]" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9065215:05
gnomefreakanyone remember the master bug on firefox not opening from a link in tb?15:59
gnomefreakit seems i found 2 duplicates for that bug15:59
ftachrisccoulson, hi16:01
chrisccoulsonhi fta, how are you?16:02
ftachrisccoulson, fine, you? saw your merge request, thanks! I will process that shortly. does it work as expected?16:02
chrisccoulsonfta - yeah, good thanks. thanks for looking at the merge, it seems to be working as expected16:03
chrisccoulsonone thing i noticed though is that it only applies to fresh profiles, but i guess that's just how chromium works right now16:04
gnomefreakfta: chrisccoulson how do you bookmark a page using Chromium? I dont see a way to do it16:05
jcastrognomefreak: click the star16:05
gnomefreakjcastro: thanks16:05
ftachrisccoulson, once it's in ~/.config/chromium/Default/Preferences, it won't be changed unless the user returns to the pref UI and change it16:13
chrisccoulsonfta - ok, no worries. i'm not particularly concerned about that anyway16:14
gnomefreakthere used to be a setting in thunderbird that allowed you to change the placement of your reply. looking for setting to allow me to answer under the senders comments16:24
gnomefreaki cant find it16:24
micahggnomefreak: account preferences16:27
gnomefreakmicahg: thanks16:32
gnomefreakmicahg: you did mean account settings right?16:33
ftafor bug 561667, is this wording ok? (as in not offensive): http://paste.ubuntu.com/415023/16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 561667 in chromium-browser "Package description does not contain the word "chrome"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56166716:33
gnomefreakmicahg: ok i found it but it is saying that i am replying under the comments but it is not working that way when i reply16:34
ftajcastro, ^^ what do you think?16:35
ftaanyone?16:40
micahggnomefreak: it's separate for each account you mail from16:40
gnomefreakfta: i like it16:40
micahgfta: I think it should be the opposite and say what chromium is, not what Chrome is16:41
gnomefreakmicahg: i know they are all set to below but when i am replying it is on the same line as the first comment of email16:41
micahgfta: assuming we can even mention Chrome as a brand16:41
ftamicahg, yes, but chromium is not a stripped chrome, it's the opposite16:41
gnomefreakfta: micahg i see it in software center16:42
ftagnomefreak, only if you type "chrom", not "chrome"16:42
micahgfta: well, Chrome is built on Chrome16:42
micahgoops16:42
* micahg needs caffeine16:42
gnomefreaki searched with chromium16:42
gnomefreakand it is the 2nd package in list16:43
ftagnomefreak, it's not what the bug is about16:43
ftasee also bug 56166716:43
gnomefreakhmmmmmm16:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 561667 in chromium-browser "Package description does not contain the word "chrome"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56166716:43
ftagrrr. bug 55998716:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 559987 in chromium-browser "searching google chrome should find chromium (dup-of: 561667)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55998716:44
gnomefreakah ok16:44
micahgfta: I see I have a lot of daily breakage to fix16:45
ftayep, me too16:45
micahgthe one thing I know is the dash/bash patch landed on all stable branches16:46
micahggnomefreak: if I get to Seamonkey this weekend, it'll be in archive otherwise not16:48
gnomefreakmicahg: 2.0? if so it needs alot of work from what the other person did. he removed all binaries other than the *-browser and removed files (not sure what ones) so it pretty much needs an overhaul unless you use the 1.* branch16:50
* gnomefreak doesnt recall his name. buts name is not important16:50
micahggnomefreak: I'm sticking with the dev branch that asac worked on and am using what I did for TB316:50
gnomefreakmicahg: good thanks16:50
micahggnomefreak: should only be a few hours16:50
gnomefreakmicahg: ok. what are we doing with <Lucid? 1.* or 2.*?16:51
micahggnomefreak: well, we'll have to migrate to 2 at some point16:51
micahggnomefreak: also TB316:51
gnomefreaki'm thinking since 1.1.19 is last supported re;lease it doesnt make sense to keep it16:52
micahgunless they decide to do another release for 1.8.1.x16:52
gnomefreakIIRC 1.1.19 is last but i havent gotten to looking into it16:52
gnomefreaknothing other than SM1 is on 1.8.116:52
micahggnomefreak: TB2 :)16:53
gnomefreakoh i thought that was 1.916:53
micahggnomefreak: same problem16:53
gnomefreakyep16:53
gnomefreakoh btw bot is dead i think16:53
micahggnomefreak: which bot?16:53
gnomefreakmicahg: daily. i didnt get any daily updates for chromium ff tb nothing16:54
gnomefreakout of our packages16:54
micahggnomefreak: bot was disabled because of an archive rebuild16:54
micahggnomefreak: was enabled last night, but a lot of breakage16:54
gnomefreakmicahg: ah16:54
micahgI'll work on the mozilla stuff and fta is working on the chromium stuff16:54
micahggnomefreak: you have time to finish lightning for Lucid?16:55
gnomefreakmicahg: no not for this dev cycle. im backed up on work16:55
ftamicahg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/415033/   better?16:56
gnomefreakmicahg: we are packagin it alone this time arnt we?16:56
micahgasac: chrisccoulson: anyone doing lightning16:56
micahgfta: works much betterr for me, but I have no authority :)16:56
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i've not done anything wit it16:56
asacmicahg: debian has iceowl done16:57
asacmicahg: but really. we need to focus on the porting project16:57
micahgasac: I don't want to do it :) but I don't want it forgotten16:57
ftamicahg, i'm not native, that's why i ask. it's more about the form/style that i'm worried about16:57
micahgfta: it works for me because the focus is Chromium16:58
gnomefreakiceowl is built off our lightning-sunbird package (at least its the same) but if we are dropping sunbird it needs alot of work, or have we decided to include sunbird in Lucid?16:58
ftahttp://www.intac.net/a-comparison-of-dedicated-servers-by-company_2010-04-13/16:59
micahgasac: by Tuesday I hope to have the rest of hardy done17:00
gnomefreakok i have to get ready for a meeting i should be back tomorrow at least i hope to be.17:01
dholbachhi guys17:12
micahghi dholbach17:13
dholbachfor some reason my tb does not start any more17:13
dholbachcan anybody help me with that? :)17:13
micahgdholbach: ugh17:13
micahgdholbach: yes17:13
dholbach3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu217:13
micahgdholbach: what it the terminal output?17:14
dholbachnothing17:14
dholbachlet me get you an strace17:14
dholbachhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/415039/17:14
dholbachmicahg: ^17:14
micahguh oh...17:15
micahgdholbach: ls -ld ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird17:16
dholbachdaniel@miyazaki:~$ ls -ld ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird17:17
dholbachlrwxrwxrwx 1 daniel daniel 25 2010-04-15 15:18 /home/daniel/.mozilla-thunderbird -> /home/daniel/.thunderbird17:17
dholbachlrwxrwxrwx 1 daniel daniel 25 2010-04-15 15:11 /home/daniel/.thunderbird -> /home/daniel/.thunderbird17:17
dholbachdaniel@miyazaki:~$17:17
micahghow did that happen...17:17
dholbachWTF17:18
dholbachdaniel@miyazaki:~$ LC_ALL=C ls -la .thunderbird/17:18
dholbachls: cannot access .thunderbird/: Too many levels of symbolic links17:18
dholbachdaniel@miyazaki:~$17:18
micahgyeah, I'm wondering how that happened17:18
dholbachbut that means that I can delete it17:18
dholbachand set up all my stuff again17:18
micahgdholbach: you didn't modify the .sh script for TB, did you?17:19
dholbachno17:19
dholbachthere's also ~/.thunderbird.upstream17:20
micahgdholbach: that's probably where your data is17:20
micahgoh, that's not good17:21
micahg-d shows the symlink is a dir :(17:21
* micahg needs to make a new release for this...17:21
dholbachthis is weird17:22
micahgdholbach: I'd venture to say it's a bug in the shell, but I may be wrong in my limited knowledge of shell scripting17:22
micahgchrisccoulson: problem :(17:22
chrisccoulsonhey micahg - whats up?17:22
micahgchrisccoulson: -d tells me my symlink is a dir so the migration script keeps running and creating a symlink loop in TB17:23
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm preparing an update with importance set to high17:23
dholbachok, got it working again17:23
chrisccoulsonmicahg - oh, i didn't notice an issue when i reviewed the initial change17:24
micahgchrisccoulson: I didn't either because I have a .upstream folder already17:24
micahgso the migration script ignored it for me17:24
chrisccoulsonah17:24
micahgchrisccoulson: but I don't get why -d shows the symlink as a dir17:24
chrisccoulsonok, i will get that uploaded right away and have it poked through the queue17:25
micahgchrisccoulson: I should set high, right?17:26
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, should be fine17:26
micahgchrisccoulson: should I add a listchanges file or add something in the posinst script to fix17:26
chrisccoulsonpostinst script to fix the profile?17:27
micahgchrisccoulson: yes17:27
chrisccoulsonthat will be pretty difficult, as it doesn't run in the users context17:27
micahgchrisccoulson: is the listchanges file where I can make an announcement about how to fix?17:28
chrisccoulsoni'm not familiar with that actually, but for an announcement of how to fix it you can normally mail u-d-a17:29
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm saying in the package on install17:29
chrisccoulsonoh, i'm not too sure about that17:29
chrisccoulsonmvo might know though17:29
micahgchrisccoulson: do you know about a news file?17:43
chrisccoulsonmicahg - one second. do you have a number for the thunderbird bug?17:48
micahgchrisccoulson: bug 56389317:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 563893 in thunderbird "Thunderbird will not launch do to a recursive symlink" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56389317:54
chrisccoulsonmicahg - thanks. do you know how to fix this quite quickly?17:57
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, I have the fix already17:57
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ok, thanks17:57
micahgchrisccoulson: I just need to know how to let people know what to do17:57
micahgchrisccoulson: will 2 hrs make a difference?17:57
jcastrofta: I think that's a good idea.18:03
ftajcastro, already committed, i hope it won't offense anyone18:04
jcastroI don't see why it would18:05
ftadonno18:06
asacmicahg: chrisccoulson: so tbird not starting is covered?18:07
micahgchrisccoulson: is this ok: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/415059/18:07
micahgasac: yep18:07
chrisccoulsonasac - yeah, we're just discussing blocking them in the archive18:08
asacchrisccoulson: blocking what?18:08
micahgchrisccoulson: do I note adding a .NEWS file in changelog?18:08
chrisccoulsonasac - the thunderbird binaries. the update is moving the profile folder for some users :(18:08
asacoh ... bad bad ... fix it if you have a fix!! rather than bother about blocking imo ;)18:09
chrisccoulsonasac - there is a fix too, i just need to test and upload it and wait for it to be built18:09
chrisccoulsonbut i think pitti has volunteered to get it published asap18:09
asacchrisccoulson: you can test the fix by reaplacing the script localley18:09
asacok18:10
asacjust ensure the builds get full build score18:11
asac;)18:11
micahgasac: I just posted the workaround in the bug18:11
micahgasac: can you look at my .NEWS post? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/415060/18:11
asaca line break is missing18:12
asacbut otherwise its ok. when was this uploaded?18:12
micahgasac: it's weird, in my file it's there18:12
asacwhy wasnt this properly tested?18:12
micahgasac: not yet18:12
asacno ... when was the problem causing this uploaded?18:13
micahgasac: I did tested it, but I didn't expect -d to return true on a symlink18:13
asacit does18:13
micahgnow I know :(18:13
asacso you didnt test it ;)18:13
asacyeah. these things are hairy18:13
chrisccoulsoni tested it too, and i'm not seeing the issue at the moment (i'm repeatedly opening and closing it)18:13
asacevery corner case needs to be tested ... especially after we had the first problem with reappearing .mozilla-thunderbird18:13
micahgasac: the problem is the migration script migrated the profile out and then the symlink to where the profile was18:13
chrisccoulsonwhat condition causes it to happen?18:13
* micahg thinks you shouldn't be able to mv symlinks18:14
asacwhy not?18:14
asacanyway. get this fixed. at best even fix the .thunderbird self symlink18:14
chrisccoulsonmicahg - where did you put the fix?18:14
asacbut if thats too hard NEWS is ok18:14
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm pushing up in a minute18:14
micahgasac: do I note .NEWS file in changelog?18:14
asacwhen was this regression introduced?18:14
asacwhen was the upload for this?18:15
micahg3.0.4-0ubuntu218:15
asacWHEN?18:15
micahgyesterday18:15
chrisccoulsonah18:15
chrisccoulsoni think it may have only just published though18:15
asacok. get it up asap ... but properly tested18:15
asacyou dont need to wait for full build to test it18:15
asacjust test the script18:15
asacso put this stuff in NEWS ... upload the fix ... get it up quickly18:15
asacnot want to hurry you ... so take your timme18:16
micahgasac: yes, do I need to note NEWS in changelog?18:16
* micahg is rushing anyways18:16
asacwell. if your script doesnt fix that situation then yes18:16
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, no more than 6 hours ago18:16
asaci never used NEWS18:16
asacits imo useless18:16
asacnoone reads that18:16
asacat least none of our target audience18:16
asacbut well. in this case i would push stuff up ... then if folks complain tell them what to do18:17
asacif we hav a window less than 24h the amount of folks running into this is low18:17
asacand all are on pre-release software so they should be happy that their profile isnt gone18:17
asacanyway ... you will handle it18:17
ftachrisccoulson, merged, i will build trunk once with it, then merge in the everywhere else, incl lucid18:22
fta-the18:22
asacchrisccoulson: ok. maybe help verify the new fix ;) ... one thing i wanted to check though is if all the search locales are now done or if there is still something needed?18:22
chrisccoulsonasac - the localised search bits are done, just waiting for langpacks18:23
chrisccoulsonthanks fta18:23
micahgchrisccoulson: should I tag for release?18:23
chrisccoulsonmicahg - did you start writing a mail to ubuntu-devel-announce?18:24
asacchrisccoulson: thx for confirming.18:24
micahgchrisccoulson: no18:24
asacchrisccoulson: maybe write that for him. so it doesnt hold back the fix18:24
micahgchrisccoulson: I have to leave soon, I can write that on my way in to work18:24
chrisccoulsonyeah, i can do that18:24
asacpersonally i wouldnt send an email there because of this ... but well ;) ...18:24
micahgchrisccoulson: so should I tag for release or leave open18:24
asacif -desktop folks think thats needed, then so e it18:25
micahgfix and NEWS are ready18:25
micahgchrisccoulson: I have to go, tag for release or leave open18:26
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i can tag that once i've tested it18:26
micahgchrisccoulson: k, pushed18:27
asac"Add symlink from old profile directory to new profile directory"18:30
asacthat was never discussed was it?18:30
asacdidnt we say we check if .mozilla-thunderbird and .upstream exists and if so dont do anything?18:30
asacmicahg: can you repeat for what condition that was the fix for?18:31
asaci think we discussed something with links ... just dont remember what that was18:32
micahgasac: right, that's why I didn't have the issue originally18:34
micahgasac: if there was no .upstream folder, after the symlink was created, it moved the profile to .upstream and moved the symlink thinking it was an old profile18:34
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chrisccoulsonok, update is working good18:48
asacchrisccoulson: test more conditions after uploading ;)18:49
asacand do a thorough review of the script code ... not sure how much cruft that has accumulated by now ;)18:50
asac(maybe)18:50
chrisccoulsonasac - will do. i'm sure i tested all conditions last night, but i think the failure to start only mainfests on a second attempt to start18:50
chrisccoulsonand then i ended up with a .thunderbird.upstream folder and didn't see the issue at all :(18:50
asacchrisccoulson: yes. starting 4 times is usually a good idea18:51
asacto test such profile operations18:51
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'll remember that in future18:51
asac:)18:51
asaci am sure you will ;)18:51
asacimo its not a big deal18:52
asacmuch too much stuff was triggered by calling for an emergency18:52
asacmost folks dont upgrade twice a day ... those that do, know where they can get support18:52
asacand if the upload happens without like 12h at best the damage is often minimal ;)18:53
asaci noticed such things because the complains usually happen with quite a good delay18:53
asacif one listens carefully you can get to know about those really early18:53
asacusually there was a bug opened somewhere18:54
asacso after uploads having constant refresh for 4 hours gives you the ability to fix >99% of the users before it happens18:54
asacacutally let me ask something ;)18:54
asacs/refresh/refresh of bugpage/18:56
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/563893 => you can just replace the .thunderbird symlink to a symlink to .thunderbird-upstream ?19:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 563893 in thunderbird "Thunderbird will not launch do to a recursive symlink" [Critical,Fix released]19:18
chrisccoulsondupondje, you should remove the recursive symlink (or rename it if you are unsure)19:37
chrisccoulsonthen move ~/.thunderbird.upstream to ~/.thunderbird19:37
dupondjegot it working :)19:40
chrisccoulsondupondje, that's good19:45
chrisccoulsonsorry about that19:45
dupondjeif you don't change anything you can't break anything :)19:46
dupondjeah well :d19:46
micahgasac: now it's clear why 1 line fixes that look harmless can be hurtful :)20:10
asachehe20:11
asacright20:11
asacand more importantly: the world still exist ;)20:11
micahgchrisccoulson: everything going ok?20:11
asacmicahg: he is having dinner ;)20:12
asacafaik its all good20:12
micahgasac: I think I check the docs twice on the behavior of the shell test flags, but will reread and propose changes if there's no warning about detecting through symlinks :)20:12
asacthanks a lot for fixing this ;)20:12
micahgasac: np20:13
micahgasac: about the dailies, should I bump the version in .head for xul192 and firefox36 to 3.6.4+nobin since we only have one version ATM and could add a +build2 later or should I just use +build1 now?20:17
asacmicahg: +buil120:18
asacbuild120:18
micahgasac: k20:18
ftai38618 11325 jobs (47 hours)20:19
asacyeah20:20
ftaseems completely impossible20:20
asacits the rebuild ;)20:20
micahgasac: I assume I should wait on TB before bumping .head, or can we just branch to .lucid if we need to?20:20
asacgoing backwards ... lol20:20
ftayeah, but i meant 11325 in 47h20:20
asacmicahg: bump .head to what?20:20
asacfta: yes, that measure is off20:20
micahgasac: 3.0.5~hg20:20
asacfta: maybe if nothing new came in20:20
micahgasac: daily breakage20:20
asacmicahg: yeah bump20:21
micahgasac: k20:21
asacwe can create .lucid from previously upload tag/commit20:21
ftathat's one every 15 sec20:21
asacfta: 18 builders ;)20:21
asacstrong buildds ;)20:22
asacso its 270sec avg20:22
asacproblem is that we have bunch of idle ppa builders because that many things in the queue make the scheduler crawl.20:23
ftahm, maybe, we'll see in 2d20:23
asacso its probably at least double20:24
asacfta: btw, i dont think disabling dailies meant keeping /dev going ;)20:24
asaci dont care ... just looking at the builders ;)20:24
asacalso wasnt intrepid disabled ;)20:25
asac?20:25
ftai've reenabled everything, and sent lots of fixes20:25
asack20:25
ftaisn't what you said i should do yesterday?20:25
asaci said lucid ;)20:26
ftaintrepid is gone from umd/ucd but not from ucd-dev/ucd-beta20:26
asacwell firest i said that, but then they appealed to just do lucid for a few more dails20:26
asacfta: yes. but intrepid is dead for everything ;)20:26
ftaoh, i missed that part then, sorry20:26
asacno problem20:26
ftaiirc, micahg told me it's end of april20:27
asacas i was unsupportive aobut the request tod disable dailies20:27
asacbecause of the buildds20:27
asacbut i am supportive on not doing anything with intrepid anymore that causes buildd slowdown ;)20:27
maxbI'm seriously affected by bug 556829, and the patch in bugzilla.mozilla.org fixes it for me. What should I do to ensure someone considers adding it to the Ubuntu package for lucid?20:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 556829 in thunderbird "thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in nsQueryInterface::operator()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55682920:43
micahgmaxb: landing on 3.0.5 was already requested which is due out May 11th or so20:45
maxbBut won't that miss lucid-release?20:46
micahgmaxb: thunderbird is upgraded with upstream minor versions20:46
maxbIt still doesn't seem ideal to release in a known crashy state, but I suppose it matters less if a prompt SRU is forthcoming.20:48
micahgchrisccoulson: you missed the workaround for people with the old package in teh -devel-announce post21:03
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, thank you for all your work on this21:03
chrisccoulsonmicahg - no worries, thank you too :)21:04
micahgchrisccoulson: is it worth sending a second note to the -devel list with the workaround for the current package21:33
chrisccoulsonmicahg - what was the other part of the workaround that i missed?21:33
micahgchrisccoulson: creating an empty .thunderbird.upstream folder21:34
chrisccoulsonmicahg - that probably doesn't matter too much now. the updated packages are already built (and probably published now)21:34
chrisccoulsonif they're not published, then they will be at the next publisher run21:35
micahgchrisccoulson: they're published21:36
chrisccoulsonyeah, i just noticed that too (since 20:14 UTC) apparently21:37
chrisccoulsonso, i wouldn't worry about it now21:37
chrisccoulsonthat was a pretty quick turnaround :)21:37
chrisccoulsonwe hopefully minimized the number of affected users by deleting the old packages from the archive, and i've not noticed a flood of bug reports from people with the issue21:38
asacmirrors probably still have this with some bad luck for 24h or so21:42
asacbut yes, i think it was quick enough to avoid causing pain on many sides21:43
micahgasac: I'll keep an eye on the bugs reported and dupe as needed21:44
asacchrisccoulson: so i checked gluezilla yesterday and its really in a badish state .... i think the whole xpcom bindings need to be regenerated using this xpidl2cs.pl script that is gone from the mono svn :(21:50
asacchrisccoulson: at best we would check if we can rip that mozilla part out of it21:50
asacand drop the mono.WebBrowser parts21:51
asacif we can figure who needs that21:51
micahgasac: have you tried my package from ffox36 PPA?21:51
asacmicahg: the gluezilla? does it patch something else than the xulrunner patch?21:54
asacwith that you get a grey screen21:54
micahgasac: no, but it works for me21:54
asacwhich can be worked around by not passing the locationprovider21:54
asacmicahg: what testcase are you using?21:54
asaccan you give that to me and instructionshow to run it?21:54
micahgthe one that directhex suggested21:54
asacmaybe its just the example code directhex gave me21:55
asacmicahg: yes, with just the xulrunner version constrained its busted here21:55
asacremoving location provider helps getting stuff rendered reliably21:55
asacbut there are binding problems on certain evengts21:55
asacthe whol stuff needs to be regenerated as the xulapi probably changed21:55
micahgasac: k, is there an easy way to do that or do I need to rewrite stuff?21:56
asacits development work21:56
micahgasac: project for m?21:56
asacas i said it would involve first finding the xpidl2cs.pl script that was previously in the mono tree21:56
asacand then regenerating everything and potentially fixing loads of things after that :/21:56
micahgasac: armel failed on TB323:15
micahgasac: which is weird, because it built before with teh same code abse23:18
asacmicahg: link to the build entry on launchpad (not the log)23:21
micahgasac: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu3/+build/169507023:21
asacthx23:22
asacchecking23:22
asaclooks bad23:26
micahgasac: I wonder what changed though, ubuntu2 and ubuntu3 were the same code, ubuntu2 built23:27
micahgasac: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+build/169303023:28
asacyeah. thats bad23:36
asactrying to figure out if toolchain changed in last minute atm23:36
LLStarksasac. users are reporting that ambiance is causing the addressbar drop down and/or menus to be orange and grey.23:39
LLStarksoccurred with latest updates23:39
LLStarksshould i contact ken?23:40
asacLLStarks: yes23:47
asackwwii23:47
LLStarkshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145511223:49
LLStarksin case you are interested23:49
asacnope ;)23:51
asacchrisccoulson might be ;)23:51
asac(a good safety net to poke kwwii)23:51
chrisccoulsonhmmm, when did that happen?23:52
chrisccoulsoni haven't noticed any change yet23:52
chrisccoulsonoh, the dropdown in the addressbar23:53
asacyes. thats the painful place fr dark themes23:53
chrisccoulsonyeah, it is quite difficult. the previous colour worked well in firefox but made it difficult to read URLs in other GTK apps23:54
asacso evolution is considered more important than firefox ;)?23:55
chrisccoulsonheh ;)23:55
asacwell. so in the end the problem is that firefox should allso a separate class23:55
asacgtk resource thing ... not sure ... so you can have a different color than "link color"23:55
asacat least thats my thought23:55
asacanyway, this half dark approach i dont like at all23:56
asaci am using the other ambience like theme23:56
chrisccoulsonyeah, a different class would make more sense23:56
* micahg misses all the *fun* of Gnome by using Xubuntu :)23:56
asaci am really close moving to kubuntu or kubuntu-netbook23:56
chrisccoulsonasac - i would advise that if we ever ended up with gnome-shell ;)23:57
chrisccoulsonespscially if it's still using mozjs...23:57
micahgchrisccoulson: speaking of that, any luck with gjs?23:57
asacisnt gjs just a wrapper?23:58
chrisccoulsonmicahg - not yet. i got distracted with the thunderbird issue23:58
asacnot saying thats a bad idea if it hides the bakend completely23:58
chrisccoulsontbh, i'm getting to the stage where i'm thinking about just turning off the test-suit enow23:58
micahgchrisccoulson: doesn't help23:58
chrisccoulsonmicah - it would get it to build wouldn't it? (but doesn't fix the real issue)23:59
chrisccoulsoni know there's also an armel crash i need to look at23:59
micahgchrisccoulson: no, I think RAOF tried that after I originally suggested that to get us across the finish line and it didn't help23:59
chrisccoulsonoh, how come?23:59

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