| vsingh165 | does anyone here have JACK working successfully on 9.10 (karmic)? i get lots of xruns no matter what settings I try. I am on rt kernel, and I've added the two lines to /etc/security/limits.conf like I'm supposed to. | 01:56 |
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| holstein | hey vsingh165 | 02:00 |
| holstein | JACK is running though right? | 02:01 |
| holstein | what is your latency setting? | 02:01 |
| vsingh165 | it was until i stopped it | 02:01 |
| vsingh165 | let me take a screenshot of my settings real quick. | 02:01 |
| holstein | in qjackctl | 02:01 |
| holstein | COOL | 02:01 |
| vsingh165 | here are my settings: http://yfrog.com/5mjacksettingsp | 02:03 |
| holstein | ALSO | 02:04 |
| holstein | what device are you using? | 02:04 |
| vsingh165 | im using my onboard ALI M5455, and sometimes i plug in my digitech guitar pedal for recording instruments | 02:04 |
| holstein | can you run cat /proc/interrupts | 02:04 |
| holstein | and pastebin me | 02:04 |
| vsingh165 | http://pastebin.com/jjmeJ6hn | 02:05 |
| holstein | vsingh165: will you increase your frames/period and period/buffer | 02:06 |
| vsingh165 | k | 02:06 |
| holstein | bump those up a couple steps until your latency is WAY up there | 02:07 |
| holstein | like 100 something ms | 02:07 |
| holstein | and just do what you were doing before | 02:07 |
| holstein | and see if you get the same Xruns | 02:07 |
| holstein | does it matter what you do? | 02:07 |
| vsingh165 | this time it failed...stopped right after I started it | 02:07 |
| holstein | does JACK just xrun while setting there | 02:07 |
| holstein | yeah? | 02:08 |
| vsingh165 | no, it does not | 02:08 |
| holstein | what seems to trigger it | 02:08 |
| vsingh165 | it only xruns when the jack server starts up successfully | 02:08 |
| holstein | OH just like once or tiwice | 02:08 |
| holstein | twice | 02:08 |
| holstein | and then calms down | 02:08 |
| vsingh165 | im not sure if its just the onboard sound...yesterday i got it to run without any xrusn | 02:09 |
| vsingh165 | but then i configured it for my guitar pedal and it started xruns again | 02:09 |
| holstein | its not horrible to see some xruns when starting jack | 02:09 |
| holstein | and some other programs | 02:09 |
| vsingh165 | my pedal isn't plugged in atm, but i still get xruns | 02:09 |
| holstein | BUT you dont want them when your recording | 02:09 |
| vsingh165 | yeah but i get like 30 per second | 02:09 |
| vsingh165 | depending on settings, sometimes i get like 100 per second | 02:09 |
| holstein | vsingh165: the pedal is not USB right? | 02:10 |
| vsingh165 | it is | 02:10 |
| holstein | OH | 02:10 |
| holstein | what is that things | 02:10 |
| holstein | thing* | 02:10 |
| vsingh165 | i may just invest in another soundcard if jack just doesn't cooperate, but i wanna get this working as much as possible w/o having to buy one. | 02:10 |
| holstein | let me google it | 02:10 |
| vsingh165 | digitech rp250...works like a charm in alsa so i know thats not the problem | 02:10 |
| holstein | maybe its fighting with your sound device somehow | 02:10 |
| holstein | SO | 02:11 |
| vsingh165 | no i set jack's input device to the pedal when i tried recording with it | 02:11 |
| holstein | OH | 02:11 |
| holstein | SO at that poing | 02:11 |
| holstein | point* | 02:11 |
| holstein | your not using your internal card then | 02:11 |
| holstein | i would trouble shoot them seperately | 02:11 |
| holstein | try and get your internal card up | 02:12 |
| holstein | with JACK | 02:12 |
| holstein | and running something like hydrogen without xruns | 02:12 |
| holstein | can you do that? | 02:12 |
| holstein | with the digitech unplugged | 02:12 |
| vsingh165 | ok looks like i may have found why jack isn't working | 02:12 |
| holstein | OH | 02:12 |
| holstein | ? | 02:12 |
| vsingh165 | alsa needs 2 periods, not 3, according to the error msg | 02:13 |
| holstein | OH | 02:13 |
| holstein | ok | 02:13 |
| holstein | well, bump up the other then | 02:13 |
| * holstein uses firewire | 02:13 | |
| vsingh165 | great...now qjackctl locked up. | 02:14 |
| vsingh165 | it got like 150 xruns in 5 seconds | 02:14 |
| holstein | and what was the latency? | 02:14 |
| vsingh165 | idk why this ran fine yesterday w/o the pedal plugged in...i don't have pedal plugged in right now | 02:14 |
| vsingh165 | latency was 64ms | 02:14 |
| vsingh165 | but that was at 48000 Hz sample rate, which isn't working today either | 02:14 |
| vsingh165 | i find it weird that the same settings work one day and not the next | 02:15 |
| holstein | well, something is going on somewhere i bet | 02:15 |
| holstein | its challenging to troubleshoot JACK errors | 02:15 |
| holstein | BUT worth it :) | 02:15 |
| vsingh165 | yeah its really low latency, i love it for hydrogen | 02:16 |
| vsingh165 | it never skips a beat with jack :) | 02:16 |
| holstein | you mean? | 02:16 |
| holstein | hydrogen to JACK to your internal card? | 02:16 |
| holstein | thats stable? | 02:16 |
| vsingh165 | yeah | 02:16 |
| holstein | OK | 02:16 |
| vsingh165 | not today, but yesterday it was | 02:16 |
| holstein | well, thats something though | 02:16 |
| holstein | hmmm | 02:16 |
| vsingh165 | looks like qjackctl is taking like 40MB of memory...yikes | 02:17 |
| vsingh165 | its all locked up | 02:17 |
| holstein | i guess you could kill it | 02:17 |
| holstein | and we could try something else | 02:17 |
| holstein | if your getting a stable experience with hydrogen to JACK to your card | 02:18 |
| vsingh165 | killed it and started qjackctl again (jackd doesnt autostart when i start qjackctl) | 02:18 |
| vsingh165 | i WAS getting it stable with hydrogen yesterday, now its all broken for w/e reason | 02:18 |
| holstein | i think we should look at what programs in paricular are triggering the xruns | 02:18 |
| holstein | i know on my system | 02:18 |
| holstein | zynaddsubfx | 02:18 |
| holstein | its just not RT friendly | 02:19 |
| holstein | and i get xruns no matter what | 02:19 |
| holstein | i ran into a few packages like that | 02:19 |
| holstein | i forget the others though | 02:19 |
| vsingh165 | i may just get a better soundcard for like $30 | 02:19 |
| vsingh165 | like an audigy | 02:19 |
| holstein | i pretty much just use JACK ardour JaMin and some plugins | 02:20 |
| vsingh165 | that would have way lower latency than onboard sound, which must go thru the cpu | 02:20 |
| holstein | vsingh165: soundblaster? | 02:20 |
| holstein | that all depends | 02:20 |
| vsingh165 | what soundcard would u recommend for linux? i know the x-fi's don't fare well with alsa | 02:20 |
| holstein | if you insterested in getting in or out of the computer | 02:20 |
| holstein | or both | 02:20 |
| holstein | if you want a mic preamp | 02:20 |
| vsingh165 | in is better...and no i dont need mic preamp. i have a usb snowball mic :) | 02:21 |
| holstein | vsingh165: i usually suggest the zoomH4 | 02:21 |
| holstein | i dont have it personally | 02:21 |
| holstein | BUT for the money, its an amazing multitasker | 02:21 |
| holstein | with low latency | 02:21 |
| holstein | nice preamps | 02:21 |
| holstein | if you got 30 bucks | 02:22 |
| holstein | i would say, save it up, and use what you got | 02:22 |
| vsingh165 | i just need a soundcard that plays well with jack | 02:22 |
| vsingh165 | i do all my recording thru usb, but like u said, my stupid onboard sound may be screwing with it. | 02:23 |
| holstein | there are a few beringer usb devices | 02:23 |
| holstein | around 40US | 02:23 |
| holstein | if you want | 02:23 |
| holstein | join #opensourcemusicians | 02:23 |
| holstein | guitarman has a beringer | 02:23 |
| holstein | i forget the brand | 02:24 |
| holstein | MODEL* | 02:24 |
| holstein | but it was cheap | 02:24 |
| holstein | and oter folks have the zoomH4 | 02:24 |
| holstein | other* | 02:25 |
| holstein | OH | 02:25 |
| holstein | vsingh165: is this a desktop machine? | 02:25 |
| holstein | the maudio 1010lt is very nice | 02:25 |
| holstein | pci card | 02:25 |
| holstein | i think you can get one for 150 | 02:26 |
| vsingh165 | yes its a desktop | 02:26 |
| holstein | yup | 02:26 |
| holstein | 1010lt | 02:26 |
| vsingh165 | well thanks for your help | 02:26 |
| holstein | http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010LT.html | 02:27 |
| holstein | vsingh165: anytime | 02:27 |
| vsingh165 | i'll keep playing with jack until i get it working, but if not, i'll look at some soundcards (even tho I don't use one for recording) | 02:27 |
| vsingh165 | cya | 02:27 |
| kaffien | is there a recomended recording hardware list for ubuntustudio? i have a xfi platinum setup but it doesn't like linux all that much | 18:05 |
| kaffien | I just want to record electic guitar via 1/4 inch plugs | 18:05 |
| holstein | kaffien: hello | 18:24 |
| * holstein reading | 18:24 | |
| kaffien | and hi | 18:26 |
| kaffien | I only really need to record one track at a time and then mix via ardour | 18:26 |
| holstein | kaffien: this is what you got | 18:26 |
| holstein | http://reviews.cnet.com/sound-cards/creative-sound-blaster-x/4505-9334_7-31484387.html | 18:26 |
| holstein | right? | 18:26 |
| holstein | is this the only device you have? | 18:26 |
| holstein | no internal device? | 18:26 |
| kaffien | back sorry this is what i have | 18:27 |
| kaffien | i didn't describe it well enough | 18:27 |
| kaffien | http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16829102014 | 18:27 |
| holstein | does it work with JACK? | 18:28 |
| kaffien | jack connects | 18:28 |
| holstein | cool | 18:28 |
| holstein | well, thats mmore than half the battle :) | 18:28 |
| holstein | more* | 18:28 |
| kaffien | but when plug in the guitar to amp then amp to the input (from output on amp) nothing shows | 18:28 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:29 |
| holstein | that card has multiple input soucrces | 18:29 |
| holstein | sources* | 18:29 |
| kaffien | im not sure if the actual face plat part is supposed proper in linux | 18:29 |
| holstein | different jacks | 18:29 |
| holstein | physical jacks* | 18:29 |
| kaffien | i may have to pickup a convert from 1/4 to 1/8th and use the inputs on the card | 18:29 |
| holstein | im pretty sure its only 2 channels in | 18:29 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:29 |
| kaffien | or look for another piece of hardware | 18:30 |
| holstein | i would try to route ALL in's to out's in jack | 18:30 |
| kaffien | and rip that card out | 18:30 |
| holstein | and conncet something to all the inputs | 18:30 |
| holstein | and see if ANYTHING shows up | 18:30 |
| holstein | at all | 18:30 |
| * holstein not a fan of that card | 18:30 | |
| holstein | i dont know much about it honestly | 18:30 |
| kaffien | i love it in windows | 18:30 |
| holstein | BUT | 18:30 |
| kaffien | but its not much use in linux | 18:30 |
| holstein | thats not the kind of card for input | 18:31 |
| holstein | those are for output | 18:31 |
| kaffien | hehehe so then what IS | 18:31 |
| holstein | 5.1 | 18:31 |
| holstein | surround | 18:31 |
| kaffien | 7.1 surround on that card | 18:31 |
| holstein | that kind of things is what its made for | 18:31 |
| holstein | OK 7.1 | 18:31 |
| holstein | even better | 18:31 |
| kaffien | but anyhow i need to know a decent card for input for linux | 18:31 |
| holstein | for OUTPUT | 18:31 |
| holstein | for a desktop machine only? | 18:32 |
| holstein | is PCI OK? | 18:32 |
| kaffien | for recording guitar | 18:32 |
| kaffien | pci is ok | 18:32 |
| holstein | ... | 18:32 |
| kaffien | and yes desktop machine | 18:32 |
| holstein | http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010LT.html | 18:32 |
| holstein | i only ask because | 18:32 |
| kaffien | holy extensions | 18:33 |
| holstein | you can get something USB or preferably firewire | 18:33 |
| kaffien | is there a 1/4 plug in that mess? | 18:33 |
| holstein | and migrate to a laptop | 18:33 |
| kaffien | i do have a eeepc handy | 18:33 |
| kaffien | what would you recomend on the usb side? | 18:33 |
| holstein | personally, i wouldnt | 18:33 |
| holstein | i would go firewire | 18:33 |
| holstein | BUT if you just want stereo input | 18:34 |
| holstein | USB will do fine | 18:34 |
| holstein | if your iterested kaffien | 18:34 |
| kaffien | no firewire on the laptop | 18:34 |
| holstein | there is a channel #opensourcemusicians | 18:34 |
| holstein | lots of helpful folk | 18:34 |
| kaffien | H | 18:34 |
| kaffien | ah even | 18:34 |
| holstein | and gear reviews | 18:34 |
| kaffien | on my way | 18:35 |
| holstein | :) | 18:35 |
| holstein | i have heard about decent affordable USB devices in there | 18:35 |
| kaffien | yeah | 18:35 |
| kaffien | also what do you use on a small laptop? | 18:35 |
| kaffien | for software | 18:35 |
| kaffien | ardour seems to be geared more toward larger screens | 18:36 |
| holstein | i use ardour and jack | 18:36 |
| holstein | i might just use audacity on the EEE sometimes | 18:36 |
| kaffien | how big is the screen on the laptop? | 18:36 |
| holstein | i use a macbook | 18:36 |
| kaffien | ah | 18:36 |
| holstein | with jack and ardour | 18:36 |
| holstein | in the field | 18:36 |
| kaffien | yeah they have firewire hehe | 18:36 |
| holstein | and i dump that into ubuntustudio when i get home | 18:37 |
| kaffien | this laptop was not purchased with audio in mind hehe | 18:37 |
| holstein | yup | 18:37 |
| holstein | i got a few of those too | 18:37 |
| kaffien | it's my sysadmin lappy | 18:37 |
| holstein | no firewire sucks | 18:37 |
| holstein | i got a couple older kying ones | 18:37 |
| _guitarman_ | kaffien: you can get ardour to scale down with font scaling | 18:37 |
| holstein | dying* | 18:37 |
| _guitarman_ | i run ardour on a 10 inch screen | 18:37 |
| kaffien | ahh | 18:37 |
| _guitarman_ | it works | 18:37 |
| holstein | with firewire | 18:37 |
| _guitarman_ | hp mininote. | 18:38 |
| holstein | and im holding on to them ;) | 18:38 |
| _guitarman_ | works fine | 18:38 |
| kaffien | can't wait for usb3.0 to become popular | 18:38 |
| holstein | _guitarman_: totally do-able | 18:38 |
| kaffien | something about full duplex so nice | 18:38 |
| _guitarman_ | holstein: yup - i mix the podcast on it | 18:38 |
| holstein | especially if your just tracking | 18:38 |
| holstein | and mixing elsewhere | 18:38 |
| _guitarman_ | holstein: this most recent episode 37 i did on it. | 18:38 |
| _guitarman_ | yes | 18:38 |
| holstein | OR mixing somehting small | 18:38 |
| _guitarman_ | i haven't tracked to it yet | 18:39 |
| _guitarman_ | but i did some testing and it worked with 4 tracks and no xruns | 18:39 |
| _guitarman_ | i bet it could handle more | 18:39 |
| holstein | OH yeah | 18:39 |
| bdrung | audacious-plugins-extra was removed. it should be dropped from the ubuntustudio-audio package. do someone want to do it or should i do it? | 22:33 |
| bdrung | TheMuso: ^ | 22:46 |
| bdrung | i have fixed it | 23:00 |
| TheMuso | bdrung: How did you fix it? | 23:31 |
| bdrung | TheMuso: i simply removed it | 23:32 |
| TheMuso | bdrung: From what? | 23:32 |
| bdrung | and uploaded 0.70 | 23:32 |
| TheMuso | bdrung: oh ok thanks | 23:32 |
| bdrung | ubuntustudio-audio | 23:32 |
| TheMuso | Did you change the seeds? | 23:32 |
| bdrung | audacious-plugins-extra was merged into audacious-plugins, which gets installed automatically | 23:33 |
| bdrung | seeds? | 23:33 |
| TheMuso | ubuntustudio seeds. | 23:34 |
| TheMuso | Thats where it really needs to be changed. | 23:34 |
| * TheMuso takes care of it. | 23:35 | |
| bdrung | i have no idea how seeds work. | 23:36 |
| bdrung | TheMuso: let me know what you do | 23:36 |
| TheMuso | bdrung: Ok. I have altered the seds located here: lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.lucid | 23:36 |
| TheMuso | bdrung: Once updated, I then run the update script in the ubuntustudio-meta package, which checks bzr and updates accordingly. | 23:37 |
| bdrung | TheMuso: i have already updated the ubuntustudio-meta package | 23:41 |
| TheMuso | bdrung: yeah ok | 23:41 |
| bdrung | (and fixed some lintian bugs) | 23:42 |
| TheMuso | ok cool | 23:42 |
| holstein | how is the installer? | 23:44 |
| holstein | is there anything i can do there? | 23:45 |
| holstein | is there somewhere besides the daily to get a more recent testing iso? | 23:46 |
| TheMuso | The daily is the most recent iso to test. | 23:49 |
| holstein | cool | 23:49 |
| holstein | i'll just keep trying then :) | 23:49 |
| * holstein got a second box together finally to test lucid studio | 23:49 | |
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