[01:56] does anyone here have JACK working successfully on 9.10 (karmic)? i get lots of xruns no matter what settings I try. I am on rt kernel, and I've added the two lines to /etc/security/limits.conf like I'm supposed to. [02:00] hey vsingh165 [02:01] JACK is running though right? [02:01] what is your latency setting? [02:01] it was until i stopped it [02:01] let me take a screenshot of my settings real quick. [02:01] in qjackctl [02:01] COOL [02:03] here are my settings: http://yfrog.com/5mjacksettingsp [02:04] ALSO [02:04] what device are you using? [02:04] im using my onboard ALI M5455, and sometimes i plug in my digitech guitar pedal for recording instruments [02:04] can you run cat /proc/interrupts [02:04] and pastebin me [02:05] http://pastebin.com/jjmeJ6hn [02:06] vsingh165: will you increase your frames/period and period/buffer [02:06] k [02:07] bump those up a couple steps until your latency is WAY up there [02:07] like 100 something ms [02:07] and just do what you were doing before [02:07] and see if you get the same Xruns [02:07] does it matter what you do? [02:07] this time it failed...stopped right after I started it [02:07] does JACK just xrun while setting there [02:08] yeah? [02:08] no, it does not [02:08] what seems to trigger it [02:08] it only xruns when the jack server starts up successfully [02:08] OH just like once or tiwice [02:08] twice [02:08] and then calms down [02:09] im not sure if its just the onboard sound...yesterday i got it to run without any xrusn [02:09] but then i configured it for my guitar pedal and it started xruns again [02:09] its not horrible to see some xruns when starting jack [02:09] and some other programs [02:09] my pedal isn't plugged in atm, but i still get xruns [02:09] BUT you dont want them when your recording [02:09] yeah but i get like 30 per second [02:09] depending on settings, sometimes i get like 100 per second [02:10] vsingh165: the pedal is not USB right? [02:10] it is [02:10] OH [02:10] what is that things [02:10] thing* [02:10] i may just invest in another soundcard if jack just doesn't cooperate, but i wanna get this working as much as possible w/o having to buy one. [02:10] let me google it [02:10] digitech rp250...works like a charm in alsa so i know thats not the problem [02:10] maybe its fighting with your sound device somehow [02:11] SO [02:11] no i set jack's input device to the pedal when i tried recording with it [02:11] OH [02:11] SO at that poing [02:11] point* [02:11] your not using your internal card then [02:11] i would trouble shoot them seperately [02:12] try and get your internal card up [02:12] with JACK [02:12] and running something like hydrogen without xruns [02:12] can you do that? [02:12] with the digitech unplugged [02:12] ok looks like i may have found why jack isn't working [02:12] OH [02:12] ? [02:13] alsa needs 2 periods, not 3, according to the error msg [02:13] OH [02:13] ok [02:13] well, bump up the other then [02:13] * holstein uses firewire [02:14] great...now qjackctl locked up. [02:14] it got like 150 xruns in 5 seconds [02:14] and what was the latency? [02:14] idk why this ran fine yesterday w/o the pedal plugged in...i don't have pedal plugged in right now [02:14] latency was 64ms [02:14] but that was at 48000 Hz sample rate, which isn't working today either [02:15] i find it weird that the same settings work one day and not the next [02:15] well, something is going on somewhere i bet [02:15] its challenging to troubleshoot JACK errors [02:15] BUT worth it :) [02:16] yeah its really low latency, i love it for hydrogen [02:16] it never skips a beat with jack :) [02:16] you mean? [02:16] hydrogen to JACK to your internal card? [02:16] thats stable? [02:16] yeah [02:16] OK [02:16] not today, but yesterday it was [02:16] well, thats something though [02:16] hmmm [02:17] looks like qjackctl is taking like 40MB of memory...yikes [02:17] its all locked up [02:17] i guess you could kill it [02:17] and we could try something else [02:18] if your getting a stable experience with hydrogen to JACK to your card [02:18] killed it and started qjackctl again (jackd doesnt autostart when i start qjackctl) [02:18] i WAS getting it stable with hydrogen yesterday, now its all broken for w/e reason [02:18] i think we should look at what programs in paricular are triggering the xruns [02:18] i know on my system [02:18] zynaddsubfx [02:19] its just not RT friendly [02:19] and i get xruns no matter what [02:19] i ran into a few packages like that [02:19] i forget the others though [02:19] i may just get a better soundcard for like $30 [02:19] like an audigy [02:20] i pretty much just use JACK ardour JaMin and some plugins [02:20] that would have way lower latency than onboard sound, which must go thru the cpu [02:20] vsingh165: soundblaster? [02:20] that all depends [02:20] what soundcard would u recommend for linux? i know the x-fi's don't fare well with alsa [02:20] if you insterested in getting in or out of the computer [02:20] or both [02:20] if you want a mic preamp [02:21] in is better...and no i dont need mic preamp. i have a usb snowball mic :) [02:21] vsingh165: i usually suggest the zoomH4 [02:21] i dont have it personally [02:21] BUT for the money, its an amazing multitasker [02:21] with low latency [02:21] nice preamps [02:22] if you got 30 bucks [02:22] i would say, save it up, and use what you got [02:22] i just need a soundcard that plays well with jack [02:23] i do all my recording thru usb, but like u said, my stupid onboard sound may be screwing with it. [02:23] there are a few beringer usb devices [02:23] around 40US [02:23] if you want [02:23] join #opensourcemusicians [02:23] guitarman has a beringer [02:24] i forget the brand [02:24] MODEL* [02:24] but it was cheap [02:24] and oter folks have the zoomH4 [02:25] other* [02:25] OH [02:25] vsingh165: is this a desktop machine? [02:25] the maudio 1010lt is very nice [02:25] pci card [02:26] i think you can get one for 150 [02:26] yes its a desktop [02:26] yup [02:26] 1010lt [02:26] well thanks for your help [02:27] http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010LT.html [02:27] vsingh165: anytime [02:27] i'll keep playing with jack until i get it working, but if not, i'll look at some soundcards (even tho I don't use one for recording) [02:27] cya [18:05] is there a recomended recording hardware list for ubuntustudio? i have a xfi platinum setup but it doesn't like linux all that much [18:05] I just want to record electic guitar via 1/4 inch plugs [18:24] kaffien: hello [18:24] * holstein reading [18:26] and hi [18:26] I only really need to record one track at a time and then mix via ardour [18:26] kaffien: this is what you got [18:26] http://reviews.cnet.com/sound-cards/creative-sound-blaster-x/4505-9334_7-31484387.html [18:26] right? [18:26] is this the only device you have? [18:26] no internal device? [18:27] back sorry this is what i have [18:27] i didn't describe it well enough [18:27] http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16829102014 [18:28] does it work with JACK? [18:28] jack connects [18:28] cool [18:28] well, thats mmore than half the battle :) [18:28] more* [18:28] but when plug in the guitar to amp then amp to the input (from output on amp) nothing shows [18:29] hmmm [18:29] that card has multiple input soucrces [18:29] sources* [18:29] im not sure if the actual face plat part is supposed proper in linux [18:29] different jacks [18:29] physical jacks* [18:29] i may have to pickup a convert from 1/4 to 1/8th and use the inputs on the card [18:29] im pretty sure its only 2 channels in [18:29] hmmm [18:30] or look for another piece of hardware [18:30] i would try to route ALL in's to out's in jack [18:30] and rip that card out [18:30] and conncet something to all the inputs [18:30] and see if ANYTHING shows up [18:30] at all [18:30] * holstein not a fan of that card [18:30] i dont know much about it honestly [18:30] i love it in windows [18:30] BUT [18:30] but its not much use in linux [18:31] thats not the kind of card for input [18:31] those are for output [18:31] hehehe so then what IS [18:31] 5.1 [18:31] surround [18:31] 7.1 surround on that card [18:31] that kind of things is what its made for [18:31] OK 7.1 [18:31] even better [18:31] but anyhow i need to know a decent card for input for linux [18:31] for OUTPUT [18:32] for a desktop machine only? [18:32] is PCI OK? [18:32] for recording guitar [18:32] pci is ok [18:32] ... [18:32] and yes desktop machine [18:32] http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010LT.html [18:32] i only ask because [18:33] holy extensions [18:33] you can get something USB or preferably firewire [18:33] is there a 1/4 plug in that mess? [18:33] and migrate to a laptop [18:33] i do have a eeepc handy [18:33] what would you recomend on the usb side? [18:33] personally, i wouldnt [18:33] i would go firewire [18:34] BUT if you just want stereo input [18:34] USB will do fine [18:34] if your iterested kaffien [18:34] no firewire on the laptop [18:34] there is a channel #opensourcemusicians [18:34] lots of helpful folk [18:34] H [18:34] ah even [18:34] and gear reviews [18:35] on my way [18:35] :) [18:35] i have heard about decent affordable USB devices in there [18:35] yeah [18:35] also what do you use on a small laptop? [18:35] for software [18:36] ardour seems to be geared more toward larger screens [18:36] i use ardour and jack [18:36] i might just use audacity on the EEE sometimes [18:36] how big is the screen on the laptop? [18:36] i use a macbook [18:36] ah [18:36] with jack and ardour [18:36] in the field [18:36] yeah they have firewire hehe [18:37] and i dump that into ubuntustudio when i get home [18:37] this laptop was not purchased with audio in mind hehe [18:37] yup [18:37] i got a few of those too [18:37] it's my sysadmin lappy [18:37] no firewire sucks [18:37] i got a couple older kying ones [18:37] <_guitarman_> kaffien: you can get ardour to scale down with font scaling [18:37] dying* [18:37] <_guitarman_> i run ardour on a 10 inch screen [18:37] ahh [18:37] <_guitarman_> it works [18:37] with firewire [18:38] <_guitarman_> hp mininote. [18:38] and im holding on to them ;) [18:38] <_guitarman_> works fine [18:38] can't wait for usb3.0 to become popular [18:38] _guitarman_: totally do-able [18:38] something about full duplex so nice [18:38] <_guitarman_> holstein: yup - i mix the podcast on it [18:38] especially if your just tracking [18:38] and mixing elsewhere [18:38] <_guitarman_> holstein: this most recent episode 37 i did on it. [18:38] <_guitarman_> yes [18:38] OR mixing somehting small [18:39] <_guitarman_> i haven't tracked to it yet [18:39] <_guitarman_> but i did some testing and it worked with 4 tracks and no xruns [18:39] <_guitarman_> i bet it could handle more [18:39] OH yeah [22:33] audacious-plugins-extra was removed. it should be dropped from the ubuntustudio-audio package. do someone want to do it or should i do it? [22:46] TheMuso: ^ [23:00] i have fixed it [23:31] bdrung: How did you fix it? [23:32] TheMuso: i simply removed it [23:32] bdrung: From what? [23:32] and uploaded 0.70 [23:32] bdrung: oh ok thanks [23:32] ubuntustudio-audio [23:32] Did you change the seeds? [23:33] audacious-plugins-extra was merged into audacious-plugins, which gets installed automatically [23:33] seeds? [23:34] ubuntustudio seeds. [23:34] Thats where it really needs to be changed. [23:35] * TheMuso takes care of it. [23:36] i have no idea how seeds work. [23:36] TheMuso: let me know what you do [23:36] bdrung: Ok. I have altered the seds located here: lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.lucid [23:37] bdrung: Once updated, I then run the update script in the ubuntustudio-meta package, which checks bzr and updates accordingly. [23:41] TheMuso: i have already updated the ubuntustudio-meta package [23:41] bdrung: yeah ok [23:42] (and fixed some lintian bugs) [23:42] ok cool [23:44] how is the installer? [23:45] is there anything i can do there? [23:46] is there somewhere besides the daily to get a more recent testing iso? [23:49] The daily is the most recent iso to test. [23:49] cool [23:49] i'll just keep trying then :) [23:49] * holstein got a second box together finally to test lucid studio