[09:32] <zimbatm> hi there
[09:33] <zimbatm> what is the best way to find out which preseed options are used by which udeb ?
[09:35] <cjwatson> unfortunately that level of detail is a "use the source" deal
[09:36] <zimbatm> okay, that's what I'm doing right now
[09:38] <mpt> ev, if you can alter the installer translations, I suggest changing both "${RELASE}" and "${REKEASE}" to "${RELEASE}"
[09:38] <ev> this WrapLabel breakage seems to be pretty bad.  mpt showed me a few examples this morning of entire lines of non-RTL languages getting cut off.  I'll see what I can do today.
[09:39] <ev> mpt: indeed, will do
[09:39] <cjwatson> gah, clearly we need to deploy some automatic correctness-checking on translations
[09:40] <cjwatson> I do have partial code for that from Debian lying around somewhere
[09:40] <ev> That would be a massive help if you can find it
[09:40] <cjwatson> scripts/l10n/l10n-spellcheck in the d-i svn repository
[09:42] <ev> awesome, thanks
[09:45] <mpt> cjwatson, or use "${V}" or something that's harder to misspell :-)
[09:48] <cjwatson> wouldn't cover it
[09:48] <cjwatson> some translators try to spell it as $[RELEASE] and such
[09:48] <cjwatson> and I'd much rather have moderately explanatory names for substitution variables
[09:49] <cjwatson> they're like variables when programming; only throwaway things like loop control variables should have single-character names
[09:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4085 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog real-po/lv.po real-po/pt.po):
[09:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Fix the Portuguese and Latvian translations of the variable name
[09:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: RELEASE (LP: #564517).
[10:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4086 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog real-po/pl.po real-po/pt.po):
[10:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Fix a missing closing bold tag in the Portuguese and Polish
[10:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: translations (LP: #564545).
[11:02] <zimbatm> hi, sorry to disturb again
[11:02] <ev> yay, fixed the label truncation
[11:03] <zimbatm> is it possible to use dhcp on install and static network on target host ? I'm using a post-install script but wanted to know if there is something simpler
[11:09] <cjwatson> you're probably using the simplest available method already
[11:13] <zimbatm> cjwatson, thanks for the confirmation :)
[11:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4087 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[11:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Fix labels not expanding vertically to fit their text (LP: #560114,
[11:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: LP: #557164, LP: #520898).
[11:37] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4088 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog debian/real-po/am.po po/am.po):
[11:37] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Do not translate variable names in the Amharic translation
[11:37] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #564582).
[11:37]  * ev sighs
[11:41] <cjwatson> using l10n-spellcheck?
[11:56] <ev> not yet, I'll look into it now
[11:57] <ev> if l10n-spellcheck doesn't cover it, perhaps we should shove grep "\${" po/ debian/real-po/ -r | grep -v "\${[A-Za-z]" in the build
[12:01] <mpt> ev, the map bug is bug 344327
[12:02] <ev> mpt: indeed, I just set the milestone to ubuntu-later, as I can't target it to maverick yet
[12:30] <ev> I've got a patch for the sound issue, just need to test it a bit more after lunch
[12:50] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4089 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog):
[12:50] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Get a controlling terminal before starting bterm, as otherwise bterm
[12:50] <CIA-3> ubiquity: won't reliably be able to take console input.
[14:46] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4090 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[14:46] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Start the window manager via ck-launch-session so pulseaudio is
[14:46] <CIA-3> ubiquity: granted access to the sound devices (LP: #549738).
[14:46] <ev> \o/
[14:48] <cjwatson> maybe use osextras.find_on_path and unhardcode the path
[14:48] <cjwatson> looks good - time for an upload?
[14:59] <ev> yeah, I was just checking to see if there was anything else that critically needs to be fixed
[14:59] <ev> let me just do a test run with find_on_path, then I'll sort an upload out
[15:03] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4091 ubiquity/bin/ubiquity-dm: Use osextras.find_on_path for previous commit.
[15:26] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4092 ubiquity/ (155 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[15:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4093 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[15:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup
[15:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 1.34ubuntu14, flash-kernel 2.13ubuntu16, hw-detect 1.73ubuntu3,
[15:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: partman-auto 89ubuntu6, partman-base 139ubuntu5, partman-ext3
[15:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 58ubuntu3, partman-target 64ubuntu8, user-setup 1.28ubuntu6.
[15:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4094 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.18
[16:05] <zimbatm> do you know if there is any web frontend for debconf ? I happened to find some project a long time ago but can't seem to find it again
[16:09] <cjwatson> there's one in the debconf source package itself (DEBIAN_FRONTEND=web, see 'man 7 debconf'), although I don't think anyone's worked on it for ages
[16:10] <zimbatm> okay, thanks cjwatson, I'll take a look
[18:33] <superm1> ev, that vertical alignment fix you did above, would you expect it's going to resolve things like this: http://imagebin.org/93296 ?  I haven't gotten a chance to apply it to any of the installs i've been seeing the clipping as per yet
[18:33] <ev> superm1: it should, but I'm very keen to know if it doesn't
[18:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4095 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartMan.py):
[18:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Use allow_change_step(False) from the KDE portions of the partman
[18:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: component when necessary (LP: #563309).
[18:58] <ev> ^ I haven't had a chance to test that beyond fixing the bug in question, but I've got to run.
[18:58] <ev> I can't imagine it creating any problems, but I'll give it more thorough testing at the first opportunity
[19:54] <sweeze> trying to install lucid beta2 on an HP envy 15, and getting the following error: "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[19:55] <sweeze> trying to install through a usb key, or a usb cdromdrive, both result in the same problem
[19:55] <sweeze> how do i even debug this?
[19:59] <sweeze> (also getting same problem with a lucid alpha2 cd which I've confirmed working on another machine)
[19:59] <superm1> ev, hm appears to fix it for the regular pages i was seeing it, but it's still happening on third party pages for some reason or another (http://imagebin.org/93305)
[20:01] <dafydd> Apologies for a noob question, but what package would I need to modify when gpgv can't find the public key
[23:10] <sweeze> got a little farther with netboot, but not much... put some details into : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/565047 --  is going through the bug the best way to figure this out, or some way for more realtime back and forth?
[23:12] <cjwatson> Friday evening's not the best time, really ...
[23:12] <sweeze> ha, of course.  can wait for next week if that's best
[23:12] <cjwatson> your network configuration problem in the installer needs to be filed as a separate bug
[23:13] <cjwatson> I recommend going through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCasper to extract more information about your CD boot problem
[23:14] <cjwatson> for your network configuration problem, we need the lines beginning 03:00.0 and 04:00.0 from 'lspci -n'
[23:16]  * cjwatson -> bed